The good news of the decade? We're winning the war against child mortality
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0:00 - 0:02We are here today
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0:02 - 0:04because [the] United Nations
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0:04 - 0:06have defined goals
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0:06 - 0:08for the progress of countries.
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0:08 - 0:11They're called Millennium Development Goals.
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0:11 - 0:14And the reason I really like these goals
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0:14 - 0:17is that there are eight of them.
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0:17 - 0:19And by specifying eight different goals,
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0:19 - 0:21the United Nations has said
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0:21 - 0:23that there are so many things needed
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0:23 - 0:25to change in a country
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0:25 - 0:27in order to get the good life for people.
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0:27 - 0:29Look here -- you have to end poverty,
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0:29 - 0:31education, gender,
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0:31 - 0:33child and maternal health,
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0:33 - 0:36control infections, protect the environment
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0:36 - 0:38and get the good global links between nations
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0:38 - 0:40in every aspect
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0:40 - 0:43from aid to trade.
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0:43 - 0:46There's a second reason I like these development goals,
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0:46 - 0:49and that is because each and every one is measured.
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0:49 - 0:52Take child mortality;
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0:52 - 0:54the aim here is to reduce child mortality
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0:54 - 0:56by two-thirds,
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0:56 - 0:59from 1990 to 2015.
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0:59 - 1:02That's a four percent reduction per year --
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1:03 - 1:05and this, with measuring.
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1:05 - 1:07That's what makes the difference
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1:07 - 1:09between political talking like this
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1:09 - 1:11and really going for the important thing,
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1:11 - 1:14a better life for people.
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1:14 - 1:16And what I'm so happy about with this
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1:16 - 1:18is that we have already documented
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1:18 - 1:20that there are many countries
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1:20 - 1:22in Asia, in the Middle East,
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1:22 - 1:25in Latin America and East Europe
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1:25 - 1:27that [are] reducing with this rate.
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1:27 - 1:30And even mighty Brazil is going down with five percent per year,
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1:30 - 1:32and Turkey with seven percent per year.
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1:32 - 1:34So there's good news.
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1:34 - 1:37But then I hear people saying, "There is no progress in Africa.
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1:37 - 1:39And there's not even statistics on Africa
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1:39 - 1:41to know what is happening."
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1:41 - 1:44I'll prove them wrong on both points.
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1:44 - 1:47Come with me to the wonderful world of statistics.
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1:47 - 1:50I bring you to the webpage, ChildMortality.org,
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1:50 - 1:52where you can take deaths in children
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1:52 - 1:55below five years of age for all countries --
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1:55 - 1:57it's done by U.N. specialists.
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1:57 - 1:59And I will take Kenya as an example.
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1:59 - 2:01Here you see the data.
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2:01 - 2:04Don't panic -- don't panic now, I'll help you through this.
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2:04 - 2:06It looks nasty, like in college
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2:06 - 2:08when you didn't like statistics.
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2:08 - 2:10But first thing, when you see dots like this,
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2:10 - 2:12you have to ask yourself:
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2:12 - 2:14from where do the data come?
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2:14 - 2:16What is the origin of the data?
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2:16 - 2:18Is it so that in Kenya,
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2:18 - 2:20there are doctors and other specialists
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2:20 - 2:22who write the death certificate at the death of the child
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2:22 - 2:24and it's sent to the statistical office?
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2:24 - 2:27No -- low-income countries like Kenya
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2:27 - 2:30still don't have that level of organization.
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2:30 - 2:32It exists, but it's not complete
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2:32 - 2:35because so many deaths occur in the home
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2:35 - 2:37with the family,
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2:37 - 2:39and it's not registered.
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2:39 - 2:41What we rely on is not an incomplete system.
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2:41 - 2:44We have interviews, we have surveys.
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2:44 - 2:46And this is highly professional
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2:46 - 2:48female interviewers
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2:48 - 2:50who sit down for one hour with a woman
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2:50 - 2:52and ask her about [her] birth history.
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2:52 - 2:54How many children did you have?
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2:54 - 2:56Are they alive?
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2:56 - 2:59If they died, at what age and what year?
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2:59 - 3:01And then this is done in a representative sample
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3:01 - 3:04of thousands of women in the country
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3:04 - 3:06and put together in what used to be called
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3:06 - 3:09a demographic health survey report.
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3:09 - 3:11But these surveys are costly,
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3:11 - 3:14so they can only be done [in] three- to five-year intervals.
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3:14 - 3:16But they have good quality.
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3:16 - 3:18So this is a limitation.
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3:18 - 3:21And all these colored lines here are results;
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3:21 - 3:23each color is one survey.
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3:23 - 3:26But that's too complicated for today, so I'll simplify it for you,
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3:26 - 3:29and I give you one average point for each survey.
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3:29 - 3:32This was 1977, 1988,
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3:32 - 3:341992, '97
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3:34 - 3:37and 2002.
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3:37 - 3:39And when the experts in the U.N.
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3:39 - 3:42have got these surveys in place in their database,
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3:42 - 3:45then they use advanced mathematical formulas
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3:45 - 3:48to produce a trend line, and the trend line looks like this.
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3:48 - 3:51See here -- it's the best fit they can get of this point.
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3:51 - 3:53But watch out --
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3:53 - 3:55they continue the line
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3:55 - 3:57beyond the last point
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3:57 - 3:59out into nothing.
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3:59 - 4:02And they estimated that in 2008,
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4:02 - 4:05Kenya had per child mortality of 128.
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4:05 - 4:07And I was sad,
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4:07 - 4:09because we could see
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4:09 - 4:11this reversal in Kenya
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4:11 - 4:14with an increased child mortality in the 90s.
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4:14 - 4:16It was so tragic.
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4:16 - 4:19But in June, I got a mail in my inbox
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4:19 - 4:21from Demographic Health Surveys,
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4:21 - 4:23and it showed good news from Kenya.
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4:23 - 4:25I was so happy.
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4:25 - 4:28This was the estimate of the new survey.
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4:28 - 4:30Then it just took another three months
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4:30 - 4:32for [the] U.N. to get it into their server,
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4:32 - 4:35and on Friday we got the new trend line --
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4:35 - 4:37it was down here.
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4:37 - 4:39Isn't it nice -- isn't it nice, yeah?
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4:39 - 4:42I was actually, on Friday, sitting in front of my computer,
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4:42 - 4:44and I saw the death rate fall
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4:44 - 4:47from 128 to 84 just that morning.
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4:47 - 4:49So we celebrated.
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4:49 - 4:51But now, when you have this trend line,
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4:51 - 4:53how do we measure progress?
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4:53 - 4:55I'm going into some details here,
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4:55 - 4:57because [the] U.N. do it like this.
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4:57 - 5:00They start [in] 1990 -- they measure to 2009.
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5:00 - 5:03They say, "0.9 percent, no progress."
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5:03 - 5:05That's unfair.
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5:05 - 5:08As a professor, I think I have the right to propose something differently.
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5:08 - 5:10I would say, at least do this --
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5:10 - 5:1210 years is enough to follow the trend.
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5:12 - 5:15It's two surveys, and you can see what's happening now.
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5:15 - 5:17They have 2.4 percent.
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5:17 - 5:19Had I been in the Ministry of Health in Kenya,
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5:19 - 5:22I may have joined these two points.
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5:22 - 5:24So what I'm telling you
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5:24 - 5:26is that we know the child mortality.
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5:26 - 5:28We have a decent trend.
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5:28 - 5:30It's coming into some tricky things then
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5:30 - 5:32when we are measuring MDGs.
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5:32 - 5:35And the reason here for Africa is especially important,
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5:35 - 5:37because '90s was a bad decade,
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5:37 - 5:40not only in Kenya, but across Africa.
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5:40 - 5:42The HIV epidemic peaked.
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5:42 - 5:45There was resistance for the old malaria drugs, until we got the new drugs.
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5:45 - 5:47We got, later, the mosquito netting.
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5:47 - 5:49And there was socio-economic problems,
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5:49 - 5:52which are now being solved at a much better scale.
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5:52 - 5:54So look at the average here --
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5:54 - 5:56this is the average for all of sub-Saharan Africa.
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5:56 - 5:58And [the] U.N. says
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5:58 - 6:01it's a reduction with 1.8 percent.
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6:01 - 6:03Now this sounds a little theoretical,
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6:03 - 6:05but it's not so theoretical.
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6:05 - 6:07You know, these economists,
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6:07 - 6:10they love money, they want more and more of it, they want it to grow.
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6:10 - 6:13So they calculate the percent annual growth rate of [the] economy.
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6:13 - 6:16We in public health, we hate child death,
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6:16 - 6:18so we want less and less and less of child deaths.
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6:18 - 6:20So we calculate the percent reduction per year,
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6:20 - 6:22but it's sort of the same percentage.
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6:22 - 6:24If your economy grows with four percent,
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6:24 - 6:26you ought to reduce child mortality four percent;
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6:26 - 6:29if it's used well and people are really involved
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6:29 - 6:32and can get the use of the resources in the way they want it.
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6:32 - 6:35So is this fair now to measure this over 19 years?
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6:35 - 6:38An economist would never do that.
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6:38 - 6:40I have just divided it into two periods.
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6:40 - 6:43In the 90s, only 1.2 percent,
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6:43 - 6:45only 1.2 percent.
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6:45 - 6:47Whereas now, second gear --
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6:47 - 6:49it's like Africa had first gear,
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6:49 - 6:51now they go into second gear.
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6:51 - 6:53But even this
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6:53 - 6:55is not a fair representation of Africa,
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6:55 - 6:57because it's an average,
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6:57 - 6:59it's an average speed of reduction in Africa.
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6:59 - 7:02And look here when I take you into my bubble graphs.
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7:02 - 7:04Still here,
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7:04 - 7:07child death per 1,000 on that axis.
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7:07 - 7:09Here we have [the] year.
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7:09 - 7:12And I'm now giving you a wider picture than the MDG.
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7:12 - 7:14I start 50 years ago
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7:14 - 7:17when Africa celebrated independence in most countries.
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7:17 - 7:19I give you Congo, which was high,
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7:19 - 7:21Ghana -- lower. And Kenya -- even lower.
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7:21 - 7:24And what has happened over the years since then? Here we go.
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7:24 - 7:27You can see, with independence, literacy improved
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7:27 - 7:30and vaccinations started, smallpox was eradicated,
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7:30 - 7:33hygiene was improved, and things got better.
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7:33 - 7:35But then, in the '80s, watch out here.
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7:35 - 7:37Congo got into civil war,
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7:37 - 7:39and they leveled off here.
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7:39 - 7:41Ghana got very ahead, fast.
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7:41 - 7:44This was the backlash in Kenya, and Ghana bypassed,
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7:44 - 7:46but then Kenya and Ghana go down together --
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7:46 - 7:48still a standstill in Congo.
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7:48 - 7:50That's where we are today.
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7:50 - 7:53You can see it doesn't make sense
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7:53 - 7:56to make an average of this zero improvement
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7:56 - 7:59and this very fast improvement.
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8:00 - 8:02Time has come
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8:02 - 8:06to stop thinking about sub-Saharan Africa as one place.
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8:06 - 8:09Their countries are so different,
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8:09 - 8:12and they merit to be recognized in the same way,
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8:12 - 8:14as we don't talk about Europe as one place.
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8:14 - 8:17I can tell you that the economy in Greece and Sweden are very different --
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8:17 - 8:19everyone knows that.
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8:19 - 8:22And they are judged, each country, on how they are doing.
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8:22 - 8:25So let me show the wider picture.
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8:25 - 8:28My country, Sweden:
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8:28 - 8:311800, we were up there.
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8:31 - 8:34What a strange personality disorder we must have,
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8:34 - 8:37counting the children so meticulously in spite of a high child death rate.
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8:37 - 8:40It's very strange. It's sort of embarrassing.
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8:40 - 8:42But we had that habit in Sweden, you know,
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8:42 - 8:44that we counted all the child deaths,
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8:44 - 8:46even if we didn't do anything about it.
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8:46 - 8:48And then, you see, these were famine years.
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8:48 - 8:50These were bad years, and people got fed up with Sweden.
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8:50 - 8:53My ancestors moved to the United States.
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8:53 - 8:56And eventually, soon they started to get better and better here.
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8:56 - 8:59And here we got better education, and we got health service,
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8:59 - 9:01and child mortality came down.
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9:01 - 9:04We never had a war; Sweden was in peace all this time.
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9:04 - 9:06But look, the rate of lowering
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9:06 - 9:08in Sweden
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9:08 - 9:10was not fast.
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9:10 - 9:13Sweden achieved a low child mortality
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9:13 - 9:16because we started early.
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9:16 - 9:18We had primary school actually
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9:18 - 9:20started in 1842.
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9:20 - 9:22And then you get that wonderful effect
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9:22 - 9:24when we got female literacy
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9:24 - 9:26one generation later.
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9:26 - 9:29You have to realize that the investments we do in progress
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9:29 - 9:31are long-term investments.
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9:31 - 9:33It's not about just five years --
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9:33 - 9:35it's long-term investments.
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9:35 - 9:38And Sweden never reached [the] Millennium Development Goal rate,
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9:38 - 9:403.1 percent when I calculated.
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9:40 - 9:43So we are off track -- that's what Sweden is.
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9:43 - 9:45But you don't talk about it so much.
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9:45 - 9:48We want others to be better than we were, and indeed, others have been better.
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9:48 - 9:50Let me show you Thailand,
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9:50 - 9:52see what a success story, Thailand from the 1960s --
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9:52 - 9:54how they went down here
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9:54 - 9:57and reached almost the same child mortality levels as Sweden.
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9:57 - 10:00And I'll give you another story -- Egypt,
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10:00 - 10:03the most hidden, glorious success in public health.
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10:03 - 10:05Egypt was up here in 1960,
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10:05 - 10:07higher than Congo.
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10:07 - 10:10The Nile Delta was a misery for children
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10:10 - 10:12with diarrheal disease
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10:12 - 10:14and malaria and a lot of problems.
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10:14 - 10:17And then they got the Aswan Dam. They got electricity in their homes,
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10:17 - 10:19they increased education
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10:19 - 10:21and they got primary health care.
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10:21 - 10:23And down they went, you know.
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10:23 - 10:26And they got safer water, they eradicated malaria.
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10:26 - 10:28And isn't it a success story.
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10:28 - 10:31Millennium Development Goal rates for child mortality
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10:31 - 10:33is fully possible.
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10:33 - 10:35And the good thing is
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10:35 - 10:37that Ghana today is going with the same rate
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10:37 - 10:40as Egypt did at its fastest.
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10:40 - 10:42Kenya is now speeding up.
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10:42 - 10:44Here we have a problem.
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10:44 - 10:47We have a severe problem in countries which are at a standstill.
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10:48 - 10:51Now, let me now bring you to a wider picture,
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10:51 - 10:53a wider picture of child mortality.
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10:53 - 10:55I'm going to show you the relationship
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10:55 - 10:58between child mortality on this axis here --
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10:58 - 11:01this axis here is child mortality --
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11:01 - 11:04and here I have the family size.
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11:04 - 11:06The relationship between child mortality and family size.
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11:06 - 11:08One, two, three, four children per woman:
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11:08 - 11:10six, seven, eight children per woman.
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11:10 - 11:12This is, once again, 1960 --
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11:12 - 11:1450 years ago.
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11:14 - 11:16Each bubble is a country --
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11:16 - 11:18the color, you can see, a continent.
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11:18 - 11:20The dark blue here is sub-Saharan Africa.
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11:20 - 11:23And the size of the bubble is the population.
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11:24 - 11:26And these are
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11:26 - 11:28the so-called "developing" countries.
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11:28 - 11:31They had high, or very high, child mortality
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11:31 - 11:34and family size, six to eight.
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11:34 - 11:36And the ones over there,
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11:36 - 11:38they were so-called Western countries.
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11:38 - 11:40They had low child mortality
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11:40 - 11:42and small families.
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11:42 - 11:44What has happened?
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11:44 - 11:47What I want you [to do] now is to see with your own eyes
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11:47 - 11:50the relation between fall in child mortality
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11:50 - 11:53and decrease in family size.
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11:53 - 11:55I just want not to have any room for doubt --
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11:55 - 11:57you have to see that for yourself.
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11:57 - 12:00This is what happened. Now I start the world.
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12:00 - 12:02Here we come down with the eradication of
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12:02 - 12:04smallpox, better education,
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12:04 - 12:06health service.
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12:06 - 12:09It got down there -- China comes into the Western box here.
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12:09 - 12:11And here Brazil is in the Western Box.
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12:11 - 12:14India is approaching. The first African countries coming into the Western box,
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12:14 - 12:16and we get a lot a new neighbors.
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12:16 - 12:18Welcome to a decent life.
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12:18 - 12:20Come on. We want everyone down there.
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12:20 - 12:22This is the vision we have, isn't it.
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12:22 - 12:25And look now, the first African countries here are coming in.
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12:25 - 12:27There we are today.
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12:28 - 12:30There is no such thing
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12:30 - 12:32as a "Western world" and "developing world."
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12:32 - 12:34This is the report from [the] U.N.,
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12:34 - 12:36which came out on Friday.
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12:36 - 12:39It's very good -- "Levels and Trends in Child Mortality" --
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12:39 - 12:41except this page.
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12:41 - 12:43This page is very bad;
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12:43 - 12:46it's a categorization of countries.
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12:46 - 12:49It labels "developing countries," -- I can read from the list here --
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12:49 - 12:52developing countries: Republic of Korea -- South Korea.
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12:52 - 12:54Huh?
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12:54 - 12:57They get Samsung, how can they be [a] developing country?
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12:57 - 12:59They have here Singapore.
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12:59 - 13:01They have the lowest child mortality in the world, Singapore.
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13:01 - 13:03They bypassed Sweden five years ago,
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13:03 - 13:05and they are labeled a developing country.
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13:05 - 13:07They have here Qatar.
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13:07 - 13:09It's the richest country in the world with Al Jazeera.
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13:09 - 13:11How the heck could they be [a] developing country?
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13:11 - 13:13This is crap.
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13:13 - 13:16(Applause)
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13:16 - 13:18The rest here is good -- the rest is good.
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13:18 - 13:20We have to have a modern concept,
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13:20 - 13:22which fits to the data.
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13:22 - 13:24And we have to realize
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13:24 - 13:27that we are all going to into this, down to here.
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13:27 - 13:30What is the importance now with the relations here.
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13:30 - 13:32Look -- even if we look in Africa --
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13:32 - 13:34these are the African countries.
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13:34 - 13:37You can clearly see the relation with falling child mortality
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13:37 - 13:39and decreasing family size,
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13:39 - 13:41even within Africa.
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13:41 - 13:43It's very clear that this is what happens.
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13:43 - 13:46And a very important piece of research came out on Friday
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13:46 - 13:50from the Institute of Health Metrics and Evaluation in Seattle
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13:50 - 13:52showing that almost 50 percent
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13:52 - 13:54of the fall in child mortality
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13:54 - 13:57can be attributed to female education.
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13:57 - 14:00That is, when we get girls in school,
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14:00 - 14:02we'll get an impact 15 to 20 years later,
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14:02 - 14:05which is a secular trend which is very strong.
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14:05 - 14:08That's why we must have that long-term perspective,
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14:08 - 14:10but we must measure the impact
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14:10 - 14:12over 10-year periods.
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14:12 - 14:14It's fully possible
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14:14 - 14:16to get child mortality down in all of these countries
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14:16 - 14:18and to get them down in the corner
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14:18 - 14:21where we all would like to live together.
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14:22 - 14:25And of course, lowering child mortality
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14:25 - 14:28is a matter of utmost importance
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14:28 - 14:30from humanitarian aspects.
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14:30 - 14:32It's a decent life for children,
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14:32 - 14:34we are talking about.
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14:34 - 14:37But it is also a strategic investment
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14:37 - 14:39in the future of all mankind,
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14:39 - 14:42because it's about the environment.
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14:42 - 14:44We will not be able to manage the environment
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14:44 - 14:46and avoid the terrible climate crisis
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14:46 - 14:48if we don't stabilize the world population.
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14:48 - 14:50Let's be clear about that.
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14:50 - 14:52And the way to do that,
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14:52 - 14:55that is to get child mortality down, get access to family planning
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14:55 - 14:58and behind that drive female education.
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14:58 - 15:00And that is fully possible. Let's do it.
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15:00 - 15:02Thank you very much.
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15:02 - 15:12(Applause)
- Title:
- The good news of the decade? We're winning the war against child mortality
- Speaker:
- Hans Rosling
- Description:
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Hans Rosling reframes 10 years of UN data with his spectacular visuals, lighting up an astonishing -- mostly unreported -- piece of front-page-worthy good news. Along the way, he debunks one flawed approach to stats that blots out such vital stories.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 15:14
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