The price of shame
-
0:01 - 0:06You're looking at a woman
who was publicly silent for a decade. -
0:07 - 0:09Obviously, that's changed,
-
0:09 - 0:10but only recently.
-
0:11 - 0:13It was several months ago
-
0:13 - 0:16that I gave my very first
major public talk -
0:16 - 0:18at the Forbes 30 Under 30 summit:
-
0:18 - 0:221,500 brilliant people,
all under the age of 30. -
0:23 - 0:26That meant that in 1998,
-
0:26 - 0:29the oldest among the group were only 14,
-
0:29 - 0:32and the youngest, just four.
-
0:33 - 0:37I joked with them that some
might only have heard of me -
0:37 - 0:39from rap songs.
-
0:39 - 0:42Yes, I'm in rap songs.
-
0:42 - 0:45Almost 40 rap songs. (Laughter)
-
0:47 - 0:50But the night of my speech,
a surprising thing happened. -
0:50 - 0:56At the age of 41, I was hit on
by a 27-year-old guy. -
0:57 - 0:59I know, right?
-
1:00 - 1:03He was charming and I was flattered,
-
1:03 - 1:05and I declined.
-
1:05 - 1:08You know what his
unsuccessful pickup line was? -
1:09 - 1:12He could make me feel 22 again.
-
1:12 - 1:17(Laughter) (Applause)
-
1:19 - 1:24I realized later that night,
I'm probably the only person over 40 -
1:24 - 1:27who does not want to be 22 again.
-
1:27 - 1:29(Laughter)
-
1:29 - 1:33(Applause)
-
1:35 - 1:40At the age of 22,
I fell in love with my boss, -
1:40 - 1:43and at the age of 24,
-
1:43 - 1:47I learned the devastating consequences.
-
1:48 - 1:51Can I see a show of hands of anyone here
-
1:51 - 1:55who didn't make a mistake
or do something they regretted at 22? -
1:57 - 2:00Yep. That's what I thought.
-
2:01 - 2:06So like me, at 22, a few of you
may have also taken wrong turns -
2:06 - 2:09and fallen in love with the wrong person,
-
2:09 - 2:11maybe even your boss.
-
2:12 - 2:15Unlike me, though, your boss
-
2:15 - 2:19probably wasn't the president
of the United States of America. -
2:20 - 2:24Of course, life is full of surprises.
-
2:24 - 2:29Not a day goes by that I'm not
reminded of my mistake, -
2:29 - 2:31and I regret that mistake deeply.
-
2:33 - 2:40In 1998, after having been swept up
into an improbable romance, -
2:40 - 2:45I was then swept up into the eye
of a political, legal and media maelstrom -
2:45 - 2:50like we had never seen before.
-
2:50 - 2:52Remember, just a few years earlier,
-
2:52 - 2:55news was consumed from just three places:
-
2:55 - 2:58reading a newspaper or magazine,
-
2:58 - 2:59listening to the radio,
-
2:59 - 3:01or watching television.
-
3:01 - 3:02That was it.
-
3:02 - 3:06But that wasn't my fate.
-
3:06 - 3:10Instead, this scandal was brought to you
-
3:10 - 3:12by the digital revolution.
-
3:12 - 3:16That meant we could access
all the information we wanted, -
3:16 - 3:20when we wanted it, anytime, anywhere,
-
3:20 - 3:25and when the story broke in January 1998,
-
3:25 - 3:28it broke online.
-
3:28 - 3:31It was the first time the traditional news
-
3:31 - 3:35was usurped by the Internet
for a major news story, -
3:35 - 3:40a click that reverberated
around the world. -
3:40 - 3:43What that meant for me personally
-
3:43 - 3:48was that overnight I went
from being a completely private figure -
3:48 - 3:53to a publicly humiliated one worldwide.
-
3:53 - 3:58I was patient zero
of losing a personal reputation -
3:58 - 4:02on a global scale almost instantaneously.
-
4:04 - 4:06This rush to judgment,
enabled by technology, -
4:06 - 4:10led to mobs of virtual stone-throwers.
-
4:10 - 4:13Granted, it was before social media,
-
4:13 - 4:17but people could still comment online,
-
4:17 - 4:23email stories, and, of course,
email cruel jokes. -
4:23 - 4:26News sources plastered
photos of me all over -
4:26 - 4:30to sell newspapers, banner ads online,
-
4:30 - 4:32and to keep people tuned to the TV.
-
4:34 - 4:37Do you recall a particular image of me,
-
4:37 - 4:40say, wearing a beret?
-
4:41 - 4:44Now, I admit I made mistakes,
-
4:44 - 4:47especially wearing that beret.
-
4:48 - 4:53But the attention and judgment
that I received, not the story, -
4:53 - 4:57but that I personally received,
was unprecedented. -
4:57 - 5:00I was branded as a tramp,
-
5:00 - 5:07tart, slut, whore, bimbo,
-
5:07 - 5:09and, of course, that woman.
-
5:10 - 5:13I was seen by many
-
5:13 - 5:17but actually known by few.
-
5:17 - 5:20And I get it: it was easy to forget
-
5:20 - 5:23that that woman was dimensional,
-
5:23 - 5:27had a soul, and was once unbroken.
-
5:30 - 5:34When this happened to me 17 years ago,
there was no name for it. -
5:34 - 5:39Now we call it cyberbullying
and online harassment. -
5:40 - 5:44Today, I want to share
some of my experience with you, -
5:44 - 5:48talk about how that experience has helped
shape my cultural observations, -
5:48 - 5:53and how I hope my past experience
can lead to a change that results -
5:53 - 5:56in less suffering for others.
-
5:58 - 6:03In 1998, I lost my reputation
and my dignity. -
6:03 - 6:07I lost almost everything,
-
6:07 - 6:10and I almost lost my life.
-
6:13 - 6:15Let me paint a picture for you.
-
6:17 - 6:21It is September of 1998.
-
6:21 - 6:24I'm sitting in a windowless office room
-
6:24 - 6:27inside the Office
of the Independent Counsel -
6:27 - 6:31underneath humming fluorescent lights.
-
6:31 - 6:35I'm listening to the sound of my voice,
-
6:35 - 6:39my voice on surreptitiously
taped phone calls -
6:39 - 6:42that a supposed friend
had made the year before. -
6:42 - 6:45I'm here because
I've been legally required -
6:45 - 6:51to personally authenticate
all 20 hours of taped conversation. -
6:53 - 6:57For the past eight months,
the mysterious content of these tapes -
6:57 - 7:01has hung like the Sword
of Damocles over my head. -
7:01 - 7:05I mean, who can remember
what they said a year ago? -
7:05 - 7:09Scared and mortified, I listen,
-
7:11 - 7:16listen as I prattle on
about the flotsam and jetsam of the day; -
7:16 - 7:19listen as I confess my love
for the president, -
7:19 - 7:23and, of course, my heartbreak;
-
7:23 - 7:28listen to my sometimes catty,
sometimes churlish, sometimes silly self -
7:28 - 7:32being cruel, unforgiving, uncouth;
-
7:33 - 7:36listen, deeply, deeply ashamed,
-
7:36 - 7:39to the worst version of myself,
-
7:39 - 7:42a self I don't even recognize.
-
7:45 - 7:49A few days later, the Starr Report
is released to Congress, -
7:49 - 7:54and all of those tapes and transcripts,
those stolen words, form a part of it. -
7:55 - 7:59That people can read the transcripts
is horrific enough, -
7:59 - 8:02but a few weeks later,
-
8:02 - 8:05the audio tapes are aired on TV,
-
8:05 - 8:09and significant portions
made available online. -
8:11 - 8:15The public humiliation was excruciating.
-
8:15 - 8:19Life was almost unbearable.
-
8:21 - 8:26This was not something that happened
with regularity back then in 1998, -
8:26 - 8:32and by this, I mean the stealing
of people's private words, actions, -
8:32 - 8:34conversations or photos,
-
8:34 - 8:37and then making them public --
-
8:37 - 8:39public without consent,
-
8:39 - 8:42public without context,
-
8:42 - 8:45and public without compassion.
-
8:46 - 8:49Fast forward 12 years to 2010,
-
8:49 - 8:52and now social media has been born.
-
8:53 - 8:58The landscape has sadly become much
more populated with instances like mine, -
8:58 - 9:01whether or not someone
actually make a mistake, -
9:01 - 9:07and now it's for both public
and private people. -
9:07 - 9:12The consequences for some
have become dire, very dire. -
9:14 - 9:16I was on the phone with my mom
-
9:16 - 9:19in September of 2010,
-
9:19 - 9:21and we were talking about the news
-
9:21 - 9:24of a young college freshman
from Rutgers University -
9:24 - 9:26named Tyler Clementi.
-
9:27 - 9:30Sweet, sensitive, creative Tyler
-
9:30 - 9:32was secretly webcammed by his roommate
-
9:32 - 9:35while being intimate with another man.
-
9:37 - 9:39When the online world
learned of this incident, -
9:39 - 9:42the ridicule and cyberbullying ignited.
-
9:44 - 9:46A few days later,
-
9:46 - 9:50Tyler jumped from
the George Washington Bridge -
9:50 - 9:51to his death.
-
9:51 - 9:53He was 18.
-
9:56 - 10:00My mom was beside herself about
what happened to Tyler and his family, -
10:00 - 10:03and she was gutted with pain
-
10:03 - 10:07in a way that I just couldn't
quite understand, -
10:07 - 10:09and then eventually I realized
-
10:09 - 10:12she was reliving 1998,
-
10:12 - 10:16reliving a time when she sat
by my bed every night, -
10:19 - 10:25reliving a time when she made me shower
with the bathroom door open, -
10:25 - 10:29and reliving a time
when both of my parents feared -
10:29 - 10:32that I would be humiliated to death,
-
10:32 - 10:34literally.
-
10:36 - 10:39Today, too many parents
-
10:39 - 10:43haven't had the chance to step in
and rescue their loved ones. -
10:43 - 10:47Too many have learned
of their child's suffering and humiliation -
10:47 - 10:49after it was too late.
-
10:50 - 10:55Tyler's tragic, senseless death
was a turning point for me. -
10:55 - 10:59It served to recontextualize
my experiences, -
10:59 - 11:03and I then began to look at the world
of humiliation and bullying around me -
11:03 - 11:06and see something different.
-
11:06 - 11:12In 1998, we had no way of knowing
where this brave new technology -
11:12 - 11:14called the Internet would take us.
-
11:14 - 11:18Since then, it has connected people
in unimaginable ways, -
11:18 - 11:20joining lost siblings,
-
11:20 - 11:24saving lives, launching revolutions,
-
11:24 - 11:29but the darkness, cyberbullying,
and slut-shaming that I experienced -
11:29 - 11:32had mushroomed.
-
11:33 - 11:38Every day online, people,
especially young people -
11:38 - 11:41who are not developmentally
equipped to handle this, -
11:41 - 11:43are so abused and humiliated
-
11:43 - 11:46that they can't imagine living
to the next day, -
11:46 - 11:49and some, tragically, don't,
-
11:49 - 11:52and there's nothing virtual about that.
-
11:54 - 12:00ChildLine, a U.K. nonprofit that's focused
on helping young people on various issues, -
12:00 - 12:03released a staggering statistic
late last year: -
12:03 - 12:07From 2012 to 2013,
-
12:07 - 12:10there was an 87 percent increase
-
12:10 - 12:15in calls and emails related
to cyberbullying. -
12:15 - 12:17A meta-analysis done
out of the Netherlands -
12:17 - 12:19showed that for the first time,
-
12:19 - 12:24cyberbullying was leading
to suicidal ideations -
12:24 - 12:28more significantly than offline bullying.
-
12:28 - 12:32And you know what shocked me,
although it shouldn't have, -
12:32 - 12:36was other research last year
that determined humiliation -
12:36 - 12:39was a more intensely felt emotion
-
12:39 - 12:43than either happiness or even anger.
-
12:44 - 12:47Cruelty to others is nothing new,
-
12:47 - 12:54but online, technologically
enhanced shaming is amplified, -
12:54 - 12:59uncontained, and permanently accessible.
-
12:59 - 13:05The echo of embarrassment used to extend
only as far as your family, village, -
13:05 - 13:07school or community,
-
13:07 - 13:11but now it's the online community too.
-
13:11 - 13:14Millions of people, often anonymously,
-
13:14 - 13:18can stab you with their words,
and that's a lot of pain, -
13:18 - 13:21and there are no perimeters
around how many people -
13:21 - 13:23can publicly observe you
-
13:23 - 13:27and put you in a public stockade.
-
13:28 - 13:30There is a very personal price
-
13:30 - 13:32to public humiliation,
-
13:33 - 13:39and the growth of the Internet
has jacked up that price. -
13:40 - 13:42For nearly two decades now,
-
13:42 - 13:46we have slowly been sowing the seeds
of shame and public humiliation -
13:46 - 13:52in our cultural soil,
both on- and offline. -
13:52 - 13:57Gossip websites, paparazzi,
reality programming, politics, -
13:57 - 14:03news outlets and sometimes hackers
all traffic in shame. -
14:03 - 14:07It's led to desensitization
and a permissive environment online -
14:07 - 14:14which lends itself to trolling,
invasion of privacy, and cyberbullying. -
14:14 - 14:17This shift has created
what Professor Nicolaus Mills calls -
14:17 - 14:21a culture of humiliation.
-
14:21 - 14:26Consider a few prominent examples
just from the past six months alone. -
14:26 - 14:31Snapchat, the service which is used
mainly by younger generations -
14:31 - 14:34and claims that its messages
only have the lifespan -
14:34 - 14:36of a few seconds.
-
14:36 - 14:39You can imagine the range
of content that that gets. -
14:39 - 14:43A third-party app which Snapchatters
use to preserve the lifespan -
14:43 - 14:46of the messages was hacked,
-
14:46 - 14:53and 100,000 personal conversations,
photos, and videos were leaked online -
14:53 - 14:57to now have a lifespan of forever.
-
14:57 - 15:01Jennifer Lawrence and several other actors
had their iCloud accounts hacked, -
15:01 - 15:05and private, intimate, nude photos
were plastered across the Internet -
15:05 - 15:07without their permission.
-
15:07 - 15:11One gossip website
had over five million hits -
15:11 - 15:14for this one story.
-
15:15 - 15:19And what about the Sony Pictures
cyberhacking? -
15:19 - 15:22The documents which received
the most attention -
15:22 - 15:28were private emails that had
maximum public embarrassment value. -
15:28 - 15:31But in this culture of humiliation,
-
15:31 - 15:35there is another kind of price tag
attached to public shaming. -
15:36 - 15:39The price does not measure
the cost to the victim, -
15:39 - 15:41which Tyler and too many others,
-
15:41 - 15:43notably women, minorities,
-
15:43 - 15:47and members of the LGBTQ
community have paid, -
15:47 - 15:52but the price measures the profit
of those who prey on them. -
15:53 - 15:57This invasion of others is a raw material,
-
15:57 - 16:03efficiently and ruthlessly mined,
packaged and sold at a profit. -
16:03 - 16:09A marketplace has emerged
where public humiliation is a commodity -
16:09 - 16:12and shame is an industry.
-
16:12 - 16:16How is the money made?
-
16:16 - 16:18Clicks.
-
16:18 - 16:20The more shame, the more clicks.
-
16:20 - 16:24The more clicks,
the more advertising dollars. -
16:25 - 16:28We're in a dangerous cycle.
-
16:28 - 16:31The more we click on this kind of gossip,
-
16:31 - 16:34the more numb we get
to the human lives behind it, -
16:34 - 16:40and the more numb we get,
the more we click. -
16:40 - 16:43All the while, someone is making money
-
16:43 - 16:46off of the back
of someone else's suffering. -
16:47 - 16:50With every click, we make a choice.
-
16:50 - 16:53The more we saturate our culture
with public shaming, -
16:53 - 16:55the more accepted it is,
-
16:55 - 16:58the more we will see behavior
like cyberbullying, -
16:58 - 17:01trolling, some forms of hacking,
-
17:01 - 17:04and online harassment.
-
17:04 - 17:11Why? Because they all have
humiliation at their cores. -
17:11 - 17:16This behavior is a symptom
of the culture we've created. -
17:16 - 17:18Just think about it.
-
17:19 - 17:23Changing behavior begins
with evolving beliefs. -
17:23 - 17:26We've seen that to be true
with racism, homophobia, -
17:26 - 17:30and plenty of other biases,
today and in the past. -
17:31 - 17:34As we've changed beliefs
about same-sex marriage, -
17:34 - 17:39more people have been
offered equal freedoms. -
17:39 - 17:41When we began valuing sustainability,
-
17:41 - 17:44more people began to recycle.
-
17:44 - 17:47So as far as our culture
of humiliation goes, -
17:47 - 17:51what we need is a cultural revolution.
-
17:51 - 17:55Public shaming
as a blood sport has to stop, -
17:55 - 17:59and it's time for an intervention
on the Internet and in our culture. -
17:59 - 18:03The shift begins with something simple,
but it's not easy. -
18:04 - 18:11We need to return to a long-held value
of compassion -- compassion and empathy. -
18:11 - 18:14Online, we've got a compassion deficit,
-
18:14 - 18:16an empathy crisis.
-
18:17 - 18:21Researcher Brené Brown said, and I quote,
-
18:21 - 18:25"Shame can't survive empathy."
-
18:25 - 18:29Shame cannot survive empathy.
-
18:31 - 18:34I've seen some very dark days in my life,
-
18:34 - 18:40and it was the compassion and empathy
from my family, friends, professionals, -
18:40 - 18:44and sometimes even strangers
that saved me. -
18:46 - 18:49Even empathy from one person
can make a difference. -
18:50 - 18:53The theory of minority influence,
-
18:53 - 18:56proposed by social psychologist
Serge Moscovici, -
18:56 - 18:59says that even in small numbers,
-
18:59 - 19:01when there's consistency over time,
-
19:01 - 19:04change can happen.
-
19:04 - 19:07In the online world,
we can foster minority influence -
19:07 - 19:09by becoming upstanders.
-
19:09 - 19:13To become an upstander means
instead of bystander apathy, -
19:13 - 19:18we can post a positive comment for someone
or report a bullying situation. -
19:18 - 19:23Trust me, compassionate comments
help abate the negativity. -
19:23 - 19:27We can also counteract the culture
by supporting organizations -
19:27 - 19:29that deal with these kinds of issues,
-
19:29 - 19:32like the Tyler Clementi
Foundation in the U.S., -
19:32 - 19:35In the U.K., there's Anti-Bullying Pro,
-
19:35 - 19:39and in Australia, there's Project Rockit.
-
19:40 - 19:46We talk a lot about our right
to freedom of expression, -
19:46 - 19:48but we need to talk more about
-
19:48 - 19:52our responsibility
to freedom of expression. -
19:52 - 19:54We all want to be heard,
-
19:54 - 19:59but let's acknowledge the difference
between speaking up with intention -
19:59 - 20:02and speaking up for attention.
-
20:04 - 20:07The Internet is
the superhighway for the id, -
20:07 - 20:10but online, showing empathy to others
-
20:10 - 20:16benefits us all and helps create
a safer and better world. -
20:16 - 20:19We need to communicate
online with compassion, -
20:19 - 20:22consume news with compassion,
-
20:22 - 20:24and click with compassion.
-
20:24 - 20:29Just imagine walking a mile
in someone else's headline. -
20:31 - 20:34I'd like to end on a personal note.
-
20:36 - 20:38In the past nine months,
-
20:38 - 20:41the question I've been
asked the most is why. -
20:41 - 20:45Why now? Why was I
sticking my head above the parapet? -
20:45 - 20:48You can read between the lines
in those questions, -
20:48 - 20:52and the answer has nothing
to do with politics. -
20:52 - 20:57The top note answer was and is
because it's time: -
20:57 - 21:00time to stop tip-toeing around my past;
-
21:00 - 21:03time to stop living a life of opprobrium;
-
21:03 - 21:06and time to take back my narrative.
-
21:06 - 21:11It's also not just about saving myself.
-
21:11 - 21:15Anyone who is suffering from shame
and public humiliation -
21:15 - 21:17needs to know one thing:
-
21:17 - 21:20You can survive it.
-
21:20 - 21:23I know it's hard.
-
21:23 - 21:27It may not be painless, quick or easy,
-
21:27 - 21:31but you can insist
on a different ending to your story. -
21:31 - 21:35Have compassion for yourself.
-
21:35 - 21:38We all deserve compassion,
-
21:38 - 21:44and to live both online and off
in a more compassionate world. -
21:44 - 21:46Thank you for listening.
-
21:46 - 21:57(Applause)
- Title:
- The price of shame
- Speaker:
- Monica Lewinsky
- Description:
-
In 1998, says Monica Lewinsky, “I was Patient Zero of losing a personal reputation on a global scale almost instantaneously.” Today, the kind of online public shaming she went through has become a constant. In a brave talk, she takes a look at our “culture of humiliation,” in which online shame equals dollar signs -- and demands a different way.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 22:26
![]() |
Camille Martínez commented on English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The price of shame | |
![]() |
Morton Bast edited English subtitles for The price of shame |
Camille Martínez
The English transcript was updated on 8/7/2019.