How can illegal drugs help our brains | David Nutt | TEDxBrussels
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0:20 - 0:21Thank you.
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0:21 - 0:24The last talk was about
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0:24 - 0:28electronic technology
and enhancing the brain. -
0:28 - 0:32My talk's about an old technology
enhancing the brain; -
0:32 - 0:35an old technology
that of course, you all know and love, -
0:35 - 0:37and that's called drugs.
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0:37 - 0:38But I'll come to that in a minute.
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0:38 - 0:40I'm going to start with the brain
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0:40 - 0:43because it's the most complex
and evolved element -
0:43 - 0:45in the whole universe.
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0:45 - 0:49It's what got you here today,
and hopefully, will get you home tonight. -
0:49 - 0:52A single mouse brain has
more computing power -
0:52 - 0:54than all the computers on Earth today.
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0:54 - 0:59Your brains are at least
a million times more powerful. -
1:00 - 1:02But unfortunately, it can go wrong.
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1:02 - 1:04Over the last few years,
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1:04 - 1:10we've discovered the scale of problems
that brain disorders produce. -
1:11 - 1:17The sum total of illness and cost
to society from brain disorders -
1:17 - 1:20is greater than that from cancer,
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1:20 - 1:23cardio-vascular disease,
and diabetes put together. -
1:23 - 1:24You see on the graph there
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1:24 - 1:29it's the equivalent each year
to nearly 800 billion euros. -
1:29 - 1:32It is if we're paying off
the Greek debt every year -
1:32 - 1:36in the burden of illness
produced by brain disorders. -
1:36 - 1:42We know that investment in these disorders
is not matching the enormous burden. -
1:42 - 1:47Here, you can see
on the left hand graph, the red circle; -
1:47 - 1:52'brain disorders' are way outside
the predicted line of investment. -
1:52 - 1:54They're the largest disability,
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1:54 - 1:57and the investment is
disproportionately low. -
1:57 - 2:00On the right-hand side, you can see
one of the reasons for this. -
2:00 - 2:03You can see the attrition rate for drugs
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2:03 - 2:07that go through discovery
into development. -
2:07 - 2:09Look at the second cylinder there.
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2:09 - 2:15You can see that from
200 Alzheimer's drugs in development, -
2:15 - 2:18only one reaches the clinic.
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2:18 - 2:21The brain is
a very difficult organ to treat. -
2:23 - 2:24Why does the brain go wrong?
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2:24 - 2:27It goes wrong
because of external influences: -
2:27 - 2:29malnutrition, still a big problem;
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2:29 - 2:33parental and other abuse
- psychological and physical -; -
2:33 - 2:36toxins - particularly alcohol.
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2:36 - 2:40These are images of my own research
showing a normal brain at the top -
2:40 - 2:43and a brain severely damaged
by alcohol misuse lower down. -
2:43 - 2:47Infections such as meningitis,
encephalitis are still common, -
2:47 - 2:50and trauma is a massive problem
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2:50 - 2:53in terms of leading
to long-term brain damage -
2:53 - 2:55particularly in young men.
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2:55 - 2:58And then, there are internal aspects
of the brain development -
2:58 - 3:01that can go wrong:
related conditions like autism. -
3:01 - 3:04You can have acquired
abnormalities like epilepsy -
3:04 - 3:07and there are age-related changes
such as dementia. -
3:10 - 3:14But the real focus of my talk today
is how the brain limits itself -
3:14 - 3:19and how we can perhaps expand its capacity
or take away the limit it puts on itself. -
3:19 - 3:22Your brain is most flexible
when you're a baby. -
3:22 - 3:24Some people would argue
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3:24 - 3:28that the whole process of education
is about taking away flexibility -
3:28 - 3:33and forcing every one of you
to think and behave in the same way. -
3:33 - 3:35It's about getting conformity of process
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3:35 - 3:37which of course is useful
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3:37 - 3:40if you're trying to speak a language
the same way as other people, -
3:40 - 3:42but may not be useful
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3:42 - 3:46if it limits how you can deal with
other things such as problems. -
3:46 - 3:50And also, the constraining of the brain
in itself can lead to problems; -
3:50 - 3:52if there is not enough of it
in the right place, -
3:52 - 3:56you get disorders
such as ADHD and schizophrenia. -
3:56 - 3:58If you get excessive constraints,
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3:58 - 4:01you can end up with disorders
like OCD and addiction. -
4:01 - 4:06And also the resilience
in the brain can be impaired, -
4:06 - 4:10and that will lead to disorders
such as anxiety and depression. -
4:10 - 4:16The core of my talk really is showing you
how we can now understand -
4:16 - 4:20the limitations that the brain
constrains the mind with -
4:20 - 4:22through using drugs.
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4:22 - 4:25This research really goes back
to the 1950s -
4:25 - 4:29and the personal experience
of this man, Aldous Huxley, -
4:29 - 4:32who used peyote and used
LSD, psychedelic drugs, -
4:32 - 4:34to understand his mind.
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4:34 - 4:37He wrote about it in the book
"The Doors of Perception," -
4:37 - 4:40and he used this quote from William Blake
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4:40 - 4:44to explain how these drugs
changed his mind. -
4:44 - 4:47He said, "If the doors
of perception were cleansed, -
4:47 - 4:50everything would appear
to man as it is, Infinite. -
4:50 - 4:52For man has closed himself up
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4:52 - 4:57till he sees all things through
narrow chinks of his cavern." -
4:57 - 5:01And Huxley realized
that what psychedelics do -
5:01 - 5:04is take away this phenomenon
that he inferred -
5:04 - 5:09which is that "the brain is
an instrument for focusing the mind." -
5:09 - 5:12Modern neuroscience
has shown they were right. -
5:12 - 5:15Because, what we now know
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5:15 - 5:19is that the brain creates
what the mind thinks it's doing. -
5:19 - 5:21Here is an example of vision.
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5:21 - 5:24You might be looking out
at a glorious sunset, -
5:24 - 5:28but in reality, the light rays
go into your retina -
5:28 - 5:31and are transformed
into a series of electrical impulses -
5:31 - 5:34which pass into parts in your brain.
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5:34 - 5:37And those parts of the brain
reconstruct an image -
5:37 - 5:40that they think you're seeing.
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5:41 - 5:44And that image, in the words of Blake,
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5:44 - 5:47is seeing through the constraints,
the chinks of the cavern -
5:47 - 5:49that your brain puts on it.
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5:50 - 5:55And if you have mental illness
- for instance, depression or addiction - -
5:55 - 5:59then what you see is also
constrained by your brain. -
5:59 - 6:02So depressed people don't see
even the brightness of the sky. -
6:02 - 6:04They see a dull grey.
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6:04 - 6:07And of course, people with addiction
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6:07 - 6:10when they see through
the chinks of their cavern, -
6:10 - 6:13they simply see the drugs
that they're addicted to. -
6:15 - 6:19Psychedelic drugs
take away that limitation. -
6:19 - 6:23They allow the mind to work
in a much more flexible way. -
6:23 - 6:26This is our research using psilocybin
in magic mushroom juice. -
6:26 - 6:30Those two images contain
the same number of connections. -
6:30 - 6:32But on the left-hand image, under placebo,
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6:32 - 6:36you see that most of the connections
are around the edge. -
6:36 - 6:40The brain talks to itself
in regional ways. -
6:40 - 6:41But under psilocybin,
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6:41 - 6:45there's a massive cross-talk,
much more integration; -
6:45 - 6:48parts of the brain which haven't talk
to each other since you were children -
6:48 - 6:50are able to engage.
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6:50 - 6:52And that's how people can get new insights
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6:52 - 6:57and also, potentially overcome damage
of dysfunction of the brain. -
6:57 - 7:01Here is another study using LSD
showing essentially the same thing. -
7:01 - 7:03On the left-hand side,
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7:03 - 7:08you see the visual cortex is
normally very local in how it works. -
7:08 - 7:11But under LSD,
when people have their eyes closed, -
7:11 - 7:16they can see enormously vivid,
interesting sets of images. -
7:16 - 7:19And that's because the brain is
much more interconnected under LSD -
7:19 - 7:21than normal.
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7:21 - 7:24Here you see that the visual cortex
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7:24 - 7:27connects to most of the rest
of the brain in that state. -
7:28 - 7:34We've been able to utilize this liberation
of processing of the brain, -
7:34 - 7:35produced by psychedelics,
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7:35 - 7:37to treat people with depression.
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7:37 - 7:39Here is a study published last year
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7:39 - 7:42where we took people with depression
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7:42 - 7:44who failed two previous
anti-depressive treatments, -
7:44 - 7:47and also had failed psychotherapy.
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7:47 - 7:49They were given
a single dose of psilocybin, -
7:49 - 7:52and you can see there, that a week later,
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7:52 - 7:54all of them had recovered to some extend,
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7:54 - 7:57and half of them were now
in a state of remission. -
7:57 - 7:59They were in the yellow bar there,
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7:59 - 8:02which shows that their depression
has actually gone away. -
8:02 - 8:04And that's not the first evidence
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8:04 - 8:08that psychedelics have therapy
or have therapeutic uses. -
8:08 - 8:10We also have evidence
from around the world -
8:10 - 8:14that psilocybin can be useful in helping
people deal with alcohol dependence, -
8:14 - 8:18with smoking dependence,
with obsessive compulsive disorder. -
8:18 - 8:20And most recently,
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8:20 - 8:23two major studies showing
it can help people come to terms -
8:23 - 8:25with the anxiety and the depression
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8:25 - 8:30which almost always accompany
a diagnosis of a terminal illness. -
8:30 - 8:33So, these drugs can have
potentially enormous opportunities -
8:33 - 8:36for helping people deal
with mental distress. -
8:37 - 8:40It's not just psychedelics
that can have that potential. -
8:40 - 8:44Many illegal drugs have medical uses.
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8:44 - 8:47So for non-psychedelics
such as MDMA, ecstasy, -
8:47 - 8:50where there is good evidence
in post-traumatic stress disorder -
8:50 - 8:53and also some studies
going on in addiction. -
8:53 - 8:55And of course, there is cannabis
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8:55 - 8:57where we have a range
of different disorders -
8:57 - 9:01from pain, spasticity, cancer, epilepsy,
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9:01 - 9:04inflammatory diseases,
and also sleep disorders. -
9:04 - 9:08All of these, potentially, are amenable
to treatment with cannabis. -
9:10 - 9:12So, why don't we use these drugs?
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9:12 - 9:18That's because the WHL and the UN
have said they are too dangerous, -
9:18 - 9:19which is certainly untrue.
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9:19 - 9:21I can tell you categorically
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9:21 - 9:24none of our patients died
in the experiments we did on them. -
9:25 - 9:28Most of our governments
perpetuate this lie. -
9:28 - 9:32And many of us - hopefully, not you -
have closed minds. -
9:32 - 9:36We do not want to believe
that these might have therapeutic utility. -
9:37 - 9:39So I want to say to you now,
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9:39 - 9:43surely now: you, if not everyone,
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9:44 - 9:45should accept the fact
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9:45 - 9:50that these drugs potentially
could be very important medicines. -
9:50 - 9:54For the sake of the millions of people
in the world who could be helped, -
9:54 - 9:56it's time to say there should be no limits
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9:56 - 10:01to the therapeutic research
we do with these drugs. -
10:01 - 10:02Thank you.
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10:02 - 10:03(Applause)
- Title:
- How can illegal drugs help our brains | David Nutt | TEDxBrussels
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This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
David Nutt explains how through decades of education and training the brain constrains the contents of the mind by limiting its activity and directions.
And then he will show how psychedelic drugs can break open these limitations to allow new ways of thinking that can help people overcome problems such as depression – and argue that the UN regulations controlling these drugs should be eased so much more therapeutic research can be conducted with these and other 'illegal' drugs to benefit humanity."David Nutt is a psychiatrist in the Division of Brain Science, Department of Medicine, at the Hammersmith Hospital, Imperial College London.
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