Why are there still so many jobs? | David Autor | TEDxCambridge
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0:16 - 0:18Here's a startling fact:
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0:18 - 0:22in the 45 years since the introduction
of the automated teller machine, -
0:22 - 0:25those vending machines that dispense cash,
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0:25 - 0:28the number of human bank tellers
employed in the United States -
0:28 - 0:29has roughly doubled,
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0:29 - 0:33from about a quarter of a million
to a half a million. -
0:33 - 0:36A quarter of a million in 1970
to about a half a million today, -
0:36 - 0:40with 100,000 added since the year 2000.
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0:40 - 0:42These facts, revealed in a recent book
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0:42 - 0:46by Boston University
economist James Bessen, -
0:46 - 0:48raise an intriguing question:
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0:48 - 0:50what are all those tellers doing,
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0:50 - 0:54and why hasn't automation
eliminated their employment by now? -
0:54 - 0:55If you think about it,
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0:55 - 0:58many of the great inventions
of the last 200 years -
0:58 - 1:01were designed to replace human labor.
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1:02 - 1:04Tractors were developed
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1:04 - 1:08to substitute mechanical power
for human physical toil. -
1:08 - 1:10Assembly lines were engineered
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1:10 - 1:14to replace inconsistent human handiwork
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1:14 - 1:16with machine perfection.
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1:16 - 1:19Computers were programmed to swap out
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1:19 - 1:22error-prone, inconsistent
human calculation -
1:22 - 1:23with digital perfection.
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1:24 - 1:26These inventions have worked.
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1:26 - 1:28We no longer dig ditches by hand,
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1:28 - 1:30pound tools out of wrought iron
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1:30 - 1:32or do bookkeeping using actual books.
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1:33 - 1:39And yet, the fraction of US adults
employed in the labor market -
1:39 - 1:42is higher now in 2016
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1:42 - 1:45than it was 125 years ago, in 1890,
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1:45 - 1:48and it's risen in just about every decade
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1:48 - 1:50in the intervening 125 years.
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1:51 - 1:53This poses a paradox.
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1:53 - 1:56Our machines increasingly
do our work for us. -
1:56 - 2:00Why doesn't this make our labor redundant
and our skills obsolete? -
2:00 - 2:04Why are there still so many jobs?
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2:04 - 2:06(Laughter)
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2:06 - 2:08I'm going to try to answer
that question tonight, -
2:08 - 2:12and along the way, I'm going to tell you
what this means for the future of work -
2:12 - 2:16and the challenges that automation
does and does not pose -
2:16 - 2:18for our society.
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2:19 - 2:21Why are there so many jobs?
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2:22 - 2:25There are actually two fundamental
economic principles at stake. -
2:25 - 2:28One has to do with human genius
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2:28 - 2:30and creativity.
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2:30 - 2:32The other has to do
with human insatiability, -
2:32 - 2:34or greed, if you like.
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2:34 - 2:37I'm going to call the first of these
the O-ring principle, -
2:37 - 2:39and it determines
the type of work that we do. -
2:39 - 2:42The second principle
is the never-get-enough principle, -
2:42 - 2:45and it determines how many jobs
there actually are. -
2:46 - 2:48Let's start with the O-ring.
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2:49 - 2:51ATMs, automated teller machines,
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2:52 - 2:55had two countervailing effects
on bank teller employment. -
2:55 - 2:58As you would expect,
they replaced a lot of teller tasks. -
2:58 - 3:00The number of tellers per branch
fell by about a third. -
3:01 - 3:05But banks quickly discovered that it
also was cheaper to open new branches, -
3:05 - 3:08and the number of bank branches
increased by about 40 percent -
3:08 - 3:10in the same time period.
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3:10 - 3:14The net result was more branches
and more tellers. -
3:14 - 3:18But those tellers were doing
somewhat different work. -
3:18 - 3:21As their routine,
cash-handling tasks receded, -
3:21 - 3:24they became less like checkout clerks
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3:24 - 3:25and more like salespeople,
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3:25 - 3:28forging relationships with customers,
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3:28 - 3:29solving problems
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3:29 - 3:33and introducing them to new products
like credit cards, loans and investments: -
3:33 - 3:37more tellers doing
a more cognitively demanding job. -
3:38 - 3:39There's a general principle here.
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3:40 - 3:42Most of the work that we do
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3:42 - 3:45requires a multiplicity of skills,
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3:46 - 3:49and brains and brawn,
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3:49 - 3:53technical expertise and intuitive mastery,
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3:53 - 3:56perspiration and inspiration
in the words of Thomas Edison. -
3:56 - 4:00In general, automating
some subset of those tasks -
4:00 - 4:02doesn't make the other ones unnecessary.
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4:02 - 4:05In fact, it makes them more important.
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4:06 - 4:08It increases their economic value.
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4:08 - 4:10Let me give you a stark example.
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4:10 - 4:14In 1986, the space shuttle Challenger
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4:14 - 4:16exploded and crashed back down to Earth
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4:16 - 4:18less than two minutes after takeoff.
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4:19 - 4:22The cause of that crash, it turned out,
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4:22 - 4:25was an inexpensive rubber O-ring
in the booster rocket -
4:25 - 4:28that had frozen on the launchpad
the night before -
4:28 - 4:32and failed catastrophically
moments after takeoff. -
4:32 - 4:34In this multibillion dollar enterprise
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4:34 - 4:36that simple rubber O-ring
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4:36 - 4:39made the difference
between mission success -
4:39 - 4:42and the calamitous death
of seven astronauts. -
4:42 - 4:46An ingenious metaphor
for this tragic setting -
4:46 - 4:48is the O-ring production function,
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4:48 - 4:51named by Harvard economist Michael Kremer
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4:51 - 4:53after the Challenger disaster.
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4:53 - 4:56The O-ring production function
conceives of the work -
4:56 - 4:58as a series of interlocking steps,
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4:58 - 4:59links in a chain.
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4:59 - 5:03Every one of those links must hold
for the mission to succeed. -
5:03 - 5:05If any of them fails,
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5:05 - 5:08the mission, or the product
or the service, -
5:08 - 5:10comes crashing down.
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5:10 - 5:15This precarious situation
has a surprisingly positive implication, -
5:15 - 5:17which is that improvements
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5:17 - 5:20in the reliability
of any one link in the chain -
5:20 - 5:24increases the value
of improving any of the other links. -
5:24 - 5:29Concretely, if most of the links
are brittle and prone to breakage, -
5:29 - 5:32the fact that your link
is not that reliable -
5:32 - 5:33is not that important.
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5:33 - 5:35Probably something else will break anyway.
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5:35 - 5:39But as all the other links
become robust and reliable, -
5:39 - 5:42the importance of your link
becomes more essential. -
5:42 - 5:45In the limit, everything depends upon it.
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5:46 - 5:49The reason the O-ring was critical
to space shuttle Challenger -
5:49 - 5:52is because everything else
worked perfectly. -
5:52 - 5:55If the Challenger were
kind of the space era equivalent -
5:55 - 5:58of Microsoft Windows 2000 --
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5:58 - 6:00(Laughter)
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6:00 - 6:02the reliability of the O-ring
wouldn't have mattered -
6:02 - 6:04because the machine would have crashed.
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6:04 - 6:06(Laughter)
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6:07 - 6:08Here's the broader point.
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6:08 - 6:12In much of the work that we do,
we are the O-rings. -
6:12 - 6:16Yes, ATMs could do
certain cash-handling tasks -
6:16 - 6:19faster and better than tellers,
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6:19 - 6:21but that didn't make tellers superfluous.
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6:21 - 6:24It increased the importance
of their problem-solving skills -
6:24 - 6:27and their relationships with customers.
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6:27 - 6:30The same principle applies
if we're building a building, -
6:30 - 6:33if we're diagnosing
and caring for a patient, -
6:33 - 6:36or if we are teaching a class
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6:36 - 6:38to a roomful of high schoolers.
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6:38 - 6:41As our tools improve,
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6:41 - 6:43technology magnifies our leverage
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6:43 - 6:47and increases the importance
of our expertise -
6:47 - 6:49and our judgment and our creativity.
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6:50 - 6:52And that brings me
to the second principle: -
6:53 - 6:54never get enough.
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6:55 - 6:58You may be thinking, OK, O-ring, got it,
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6:58 - 7:01that says the jobs that people do
will be important. -
7:01 - 7:04They can't be done by machines,
but they still need to be done. -
7:04 - 7:07But that doesn't tell me
how many jobs there will need to be. -
7:07 - 7:09If you think about it,
isn't it kind of self-evident -
7:09 - 7:12that once we get sufficiently
productive at something, -
7:12 - 7:14we've basically
worked our way out of a job? -
7:14 - 7:17In 1900, 40 percent of all US employment
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7:17 - 7:18was on farms.
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7:18 - 7:20Today, it's less than two percent.
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7:20 - 7:22Why are there so few farmers today?
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7:22 - 7:24It's not because we're eating less.
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7:24 - 7:27(Laughter)
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7:27 - 7:30A century of productivity
growth in farming -
7:30 - 7:32means that now,
a couple of million farmers -
7:32 - 7:35can feed a nation of 320 million.
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7:35 - 7:36That's amazing progress,
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7:36 - 7:40but it also means there are
only so many O-ring jobs left in farming. -
7:40 - 7:44So clearly, technology can eliminate jobs.
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7:44 - 7:45Farming is only one example.
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7:45 - 7:47There are many others like it.
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7:48 - 7:52But what's true about a single product
or service or industry -
7:52 - 7:55has never been true
about the economy as a whole. -
7:55 - 7:58Many of the industries
in which we now work -- -
7:58 - 8:00health and medicine,
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8:00 - 8:02finance and insurance,
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8:02 - 8:04electronics and computing --
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8:05 - 8:07were tiny or barely existent
a century ago. -
8:07 - 8:10Many of the products
that we spend a lot of our money on -- -
8:10 - 8:12air conditioners, sport utility vehicles,
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8:12 - 8:14computers and mobile devices --
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8:14 - 8:16were unattainably expensive,
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8:16 - 8:18or just hadn't been invented
a century ago. -
8:19 - 8:24As automation frees our time,
increases the scope of what is possible, -
8:24 - 8:27we invent new products,
new ideas, new services -
8:27 - 8:29that command our attention,
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8:29 - 8:30occupy our time
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8:30 - 8:32and spur consumption.
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8:33 - 8:36You may think some
of these things are frivolous -- -
8:36 - 8:39extreme yoga, adventure tourism,
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8:39 - 8:40Pokemon GO --
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8:40 - 8:41and I might agree with you.
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8:42 - 8:45But people desire these things,
and they're willing to work hard for them. -
8:45 - 8:48The average worker in 2015
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8:48 - 8:52wanting to attain
the average living standard in 1915 -
8:52 - 8:55could do so by working
just 17 weeks a year, -
8:55 - 8:57one third of the time.
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8:57 - 8:59But most people don't choose to do that.
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8:59 - 9:01They are willing to work hard
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9:01 - 9:05to harvest the technological bounty
that is available to them. -
9:05 - 9:09Material abundance has never
eliminated perceived scarcity. -
9:10 - 9:12In the words of economist
Thorstein Veblen, -
9:12 - 9:15invention is the mother of necessity.
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9:16 - 9:18Now ...
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9:18 - 9:20So if you accept these two principles,
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9:20 - 9:23the O-ring principle
and the never-get-enough principle, -
9:23 - 9:24then you agree with me.
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9:24 - 9:26There will be jobs.
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9:26 - 9:29Does that mean there's
nothing to worry about? -
9:29 - 9:31Automation, employment, robots and jobs --
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9:31 - 9:33it'll all take care of itself?
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9:34 - 9:35No.
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9:35 - 9:37That is not my argument.
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9:37 - 9:40Automation creates wealth
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9:40 - 9:42by allowing us to do
more work in less time. -
9:42 - 9:44There is no economic law
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9:44 - 9:47that says that we
will use that wealth well, -
9:47 - 9:49and that is worth worrying about.
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9:50 - 9:52Consider two countries,
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9:52 - 9:54Norway and Saudi Arabia.
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9:54 - 9:55Both oil-rich nations,
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9:55 - 9:59it's like they have money
spurting out of a hole in the ground. -
9:59 - 10:00(Laughter)
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10:00 - 10:06But they haven't used that wealth
equally well to foster human prosperity, -
10:06 - 10:07human prospering.
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10:07 - 10:10Norway is a thriving democracy.
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10:10 - 10:14By and large, its citizens
work and play well together. -
10:14 - 10:17It's typically numbered
between first and fourth -
10:17 - 10:20in rankings of national happiness.
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10:20 - 10:22Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy
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10:22 - 10:26in which many citizens
lack a path for personal advancement. -
10:26 - 10:29It's typically ranked 35th
among nations in happiness, -
10:29 - 10:32which is low for such a wealthy nation.
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10:32 - 10:33Just by way of comparison,
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10:33 - 10:36the US is typically ranked
around 12th or 13th. -
10:36 - 10:38The difference between these two countries
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10:38 - 10:40is not their wealth
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10:40 - 10:41and it's not their technology.
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10:41 - 10:43It's their institutions.
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10:43 - 10:47Norway has invested to build a society
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10:47 - 10:50with opportunity and economic mobility.
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10:50 - 10:52Saudi Arabia has raised living standards
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10:52 - 10:55while frustrating
many other human strivings. -
10:56 - 10:58Two countries, both wealthy,
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10:58 - 11:00not equally well off.
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11:01 - 11:05And this brings me
to the challenge that we face today, -
11:05 - 11:07the challenge that
automation poses for us. -
11:07 - 11:10The challenge is not
that we're running out of work. -
11:10 - 11:12The US has added 14 million jobs
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11:12 - 11:14since the depths of the Great Recession.
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11:14 - 11:16The challenge is that many of those jobs
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11:16 - 11:18are not good jobs,
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11:18 - 11:21and many citizens
cannot qualify for the good jobs -
11:21 - 11:22that are being created.
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11:23 - 11:26Employment growth in the United States
and in much of the developed world -
11:26 - 11:28looks something like a barbell
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11:28 - 11:31with increasing poundage
on either end of the bar. -
11:31 - 11:32On the one hand,
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11:32 - 11:35you have high-education, high-wage jobs
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11:35 - 11:39like doctors and nurses,
programmers and engineers, -
11:39 - 11:41marketing and sales managers.
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11:41 - 11:44Employment is robust in these jobs,
employment growth. -
11:44 - 11:48Similarly, employment growth
is robust in many low-skill, -
11:48 - 11:51low-education jobs like food service,
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11:51 - 11:53cleaning, security,
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11:53 - 11:54home health aids.
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11:55 - 11:58Simultaneously, employment is shrinking
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11:58 - 12:02in many middle-education,
middle-wage, middle-class jobs, -
12:02 - 12:06like blue-collar production
and operative positions -
12:06 - 12:09and white-collar
clerical and sales positions. -
12:09 - 12:11The reasons behind this contracting middle
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12:11 - 12:13are not mysterious.
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12:13 - 12:15Many of those middle-skill jobs
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12:15 - 12:17use well-understood rules and procedures
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12:17 - 12:20that can increasingly
be codified in software -
12:20 - 12:23and executed by computers.
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12:23 - 12:26The challenge that
this phenomenon creates, -
12:26 - 12:29what economists call
employment polarization, -
12:29 - 12:32is that it knocks out rungs
in the economic ladder, -
12:32 - 12:34shrinks the size of the middle class
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12:34 - 12:37and threatens to make us
a more stratified society. -
12:37 - 12:41On the one hand, a set of highly paid,
highly educated professionals -
12:41 - 12:42doing interesting work,
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12:42 - 12:46on the other, a large number
of citizens in low-paid jobs -
12:46 - 12:51whose primary responsibility is to see
to the comfort and health of the affluent. -
12:51 - 12:54That is not my vision of progress,
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12:54 - 12:56and I doubt that it is yours.
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12:56 - 12:58But here is some encouraging news.
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12:58 - 13:03We have faced equally momentous
economic transformations in the past, -
13:03 - 13:06and we have come
through them successfully. -
13:06 - 13:11In the late 1800s and early 1900s,
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13:11 - 13:15when automation was eliminating
vast numbers of agricultural jobs -- -
13:16 - 13:18remember that tractor? --
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13:18 - 13:21the farm states faced a threat
of mass unemployment, -
13:21 - 13:24a generation of youth
no longer needed on the farm -
13:24 - 13:26but not prepared for industry.
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13:27 - 13:29Rising to this challenge,
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13:29 - 13:30they took the radical step
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13:30 - 13:33of requiring that
their entire youth population -
13:33 - 13:36remain in school
and continue their education -
13:36 - 13:38to the ripe old age of 16.
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13:38 - 13:40This was called the high school movement,
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13:40 - 13:43and it was a radically
expensive thing to do. -
13:43 - 13:46Not only did they have
to invest in the schools, -
13:46 - 13:48but those kids couldn't work
at their jobs. -
13:48 - 13:52It also turned out to be
one of the best investments -
13:52 - 13:54the US made in the 20th century.
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13:54 - 13:56It gave us the most skilled,
the most flexible -
13:56 - 13:59and the most productive
workforce in the world. -
13:59 - 14:04To see how well this worked,
imagine taking the labor force of 1899 -
14:04 - 14:06and bringing them into the present.
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14:06 - 14:09Despite their strong backs
and good characters, -
14:09 - 14:13many of them would lack
the basic literacy and numeracy skills -
14:13 - 14:15to do all but the most mundane jobs.
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14:16 - 14:18Many of them would be unemployable.
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14:19 - 14:22What this example highlights
is the primacy of our institutions, -
14:22 - 14:24most especially our schools,
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14:24 - 14:27in allowing us to reap the harvest
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14:27 - 14:29of our technological prosperity.
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14:29 - 14:32It's foolish to say
there's nothing to worry about. -
14:32 - 14:34Clearly we can get this wrong.
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14:35 - 14:38If the US had not invested
in its schools and in its skills -
14:38 - 14:40a century ago with
the high school movement, -
14:40 - 14:42we would be a less prosperous,
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14:42 - 14:46a less mobile and probably
a lot less happy society. -
14:46 - 14:48But it's equally foolish
to say that our fates are sealed. -
14:48 - 14:50That's not decided by the machines.
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14:50 - 14:52It's not even decided by the market.
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14:52 - 14:55It's decided by us
and by our institutions. -
14:55 - 14:58Now, I started this talk with a paradox.
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14:58 - 15:01Our machines increasingly
do our work for us. -
15:01 - 15:03Why doesn't that make
our labor superfluous, -
15:03 - 15:04our skills redundant?
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15:04 - 15:07Isn't it obvious that the road
to our economic and social hell -
15:08 - 15:10is paved with our own great inventions?
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15:11 - 15:15History has repeatedly offered
an answer to that paradox. -
15:15 - 15:19The first part of the answer
is that technology magnifies our leverage, -
15:19 - 15:21increases the importance, the added value
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15:21 - 15:25of our expertise,
our judgment and our creativity. -
15:25 - 15:26That's the O-ring.
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15:27 - 15:30The second part of the answer
is our endless inventiveness -
15:30 - 15:31and bottomless desires
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15:31 - 15:33means that we never get enough,
never get enough. -
15:33 - 15:36There's always new work to do.
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15:37 - 15:40Adjusting to the rapid pace
of technological change -
15:40 - 15:42creates real challenges,
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15:42 - 15:45seen most clearly
in our polarized labor market -
15:45 - 15:47and the threat that it poses
to economic mobility. -
15:48 - 15:51Rising to this challenge is not automatic.
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15:51 - 15:53It's not costless.
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15:53 - 15:54It's not easy.
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15:54 - 15:55But it is feasible.
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15:56 - 15:58And here is some encouraging news.
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15:58 - 16:00Because of our amazing productivity,
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16:00 - 16:01we're rich.
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16:01 - 16:04Of course we can afford
to invest in ourselves and in our children -
16:04 - 16:08as America did a hundred years ago
with the high school movement. -
16:08 - 16:10Arguably, we can't afford not to.
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16:11 - 16:13Now, you may be thinking,
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16:13 - 16:16Professor Autor has told us
a heartwarming tale -
16:16 - 16:17about the distant past,
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16:18 - 16:19the recent past,
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16:19 - 16:22maybe the present,
but probably not the future. -
16:22 - 16:26Because everybody knows
that this time is different. -
16:26 - 16:29Right? Is this time different?
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16:29 - 16:31Of course this time is different.
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16:31 - 16:33Every time is different.
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16:33 - 16:36On numerous occasions
in the last 200 years, -
16:36 - 16:39scholars and activists
have raised the alarm -
16:39 - 16:43that we are running out of work
and making ourselves obsolete: -
16:43 - 16:47for example, the Luddites
in the early 1800s; -
16:47 - 16:50US Secretary of Labor James Davis
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16:50 - 16:53in the mid-1920s;
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16:53 - 16:58Nobel Prize-winning economist
Wassily Leontief in 1982; -
16:58 - 17:01and of course, many scholars,
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17:01 - 17:03pundits, technologists
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17:03 - 17:05and media figures today.
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17:06 - 17:10These predictions strike me as arrogant.
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17:11 - 17:13These self-proclaimed oracles
are in effect saying, -
17:13 - 17:17"If I can't think of what people
will do for work in the future, -
17:17 - 17:20then you, me and our kids
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17:20 - 17:21aren't going to think of it either."
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17:23 - 17:25I don't have the guts
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17:25 - 17:28to take that bet against human ingenuity.
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17:28 - 17:31Look, I can't tell you
what people are going to do for work -
17:31 - 17:33a hundred years from now.
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17:33 - 17:35But the future doesn't hinge
on my imagination. -
17:36 - 17:40If I were a farmer in Iowa
in the year 1900, -
17:40 - 17:44and an economist from the 21st century
teleported down to my field -
17:44 - 17:46and said, "Hey, guess what, farmer Autor,
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17:47 - 17:48in the next hundred years,
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17:48 - 17:52agricultural employment is going to fall
from 40 percent of all jobs -
17:52 - 17:53to two percent
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17:54 - 17:56purely due to rising productivity.
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17:56 - 17:59What do you think the other
38 percent of workers are going to do?" -
18:00 - 18:03I would not have said, "Oh, we got this.
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18:03 - 18:06We'll do app development,
radiological medicine, -
18:06 - 18:09yoga instruction, Bitmoji."
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18:09 - 18:11(Laughter)
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18:11 - 18:12I wouldn't have had a clue.
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18:13 - 18:15But I hope I would have had
the wisdom to say, -
18:15 - 18:19"Wow, a 95 percent reduction
in farm employment -
18:19 - 18:21with no shortage of food.
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18:21 - 18:24That's an amazing amount of progress.
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18:24 - 18:27I hope that humanity
finds something remarkable to do -
18:27 - 18:29with all of that prosperity."
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18:30 - 18:33And by and large, I would say that it has.
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18:35 - 18:36Thank you very much.
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18:36 - 18:41(Applause)
- Title:
- Why are there still so many jobs? | David Autor | TEDxCambridge
- Description:
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Here's a paradox you don't hear much about: despite a century of creating machines to do our work for us, the proportion of adults in the US with a job has consistently gone up for the past 125 years. Why hasn't human labor become redundant and our skills obsolete? In this talk about the future of work, economist David Autor addresses the question of why there are there still so many jobs and comes up with a surprising, hopeful answer.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 18:52
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