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What we can learn from birds about ourselves | Mikus Āboliņš-Ābols | TEDxRiga

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    I study birds.
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    I'm an ornithologist.
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    When I say that to people,
    they usually assume
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    I'm one of those crazy people
    that wakes up in the middle of the night,
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    drives across the country
    to see some obscure bird.
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    And they're right.
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    (Laughter)
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    I've done things to see birds
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    that many of you
    would not do to your parents.
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    I've gone out on a ship
    in the middle of the winter storm
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    to count gulls.
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    I've spent months on a rock
    in an ocean to count sea birds.
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    For many summers, I've woken up
    at 5 o'clock in the morning
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    to watch amazing birds - sparrows.
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    I do this because I really,
    really like birds.
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    I think they're beautiful,
    and I think they're fun.
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    But over years,
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    I've come to appreciate birds
    from a different perspective,
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    from a perspective
    that's more than just fun.
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    Because, when you take
    a closer look at birds,
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    when you spend more than just a second
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    looking at the same individual,
    the same species,
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    you start to see these amazing parallels
    between birds and us.
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    You start to realize
    that we can study birds
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    to answer fundamental questions
    about our behavior, ourselves,
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    questions that apply to us.
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    This is important
    because there are many questions
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    about our behavior,
    about how we are built
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    that we can't answer using ourselves
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    because of logistical
    or ethical challenges.
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    Instead, we use model organisms.
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    For example, to find out
    how cancer works, we use mice
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    because mouse cells and human cells,
    mouse organs and our organs
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    work in much the same way.
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    By studying mice, we can find out
    treatments for our diseases.
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    But we can't use mice
    to study everything in humans.
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    And so today, I will show you
    that birds are a great model system
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    for questions that apply to us
    about our behavior, our physiology.
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    Birds are a great model for behavior
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    because their social system
    is really similar to ours.
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    90% of birds form pairs.
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    They have something
    that we could call a family.
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    In 85% of bird species,
    both mom and dad take care of the babies,
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    much the same way as we do,
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    and this makes birds more similar to us
    than many mammals
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    because biparental care
    is rather rare in animal kingdom.
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    Birds have personalities.
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    They vary tremendously
    in how aggressive they are,
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    how sociable they are,
    how daring they are,
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    much the same way as we do.
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    Birds are also great models for physiology
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    because bird hormones
    and our hormones are really similar,
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    and our nervous systems work
    in the same way.
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    To demonstrate this,
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    I will tell you three stories
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    from my research
    and my colleagues' research,
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    I will show you that we can study birds
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    to answer fundamental questions
    about empathy, sex, and stress.
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    Empathy is a very important human emotion,
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    it's the ability to put ourselves
    in other's shoes,
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    understand things
    from other's perspective.
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    Empathy makes us who we are,
    it allows us to forgive.
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    Have you ever wondered
    why we have empathy?
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    Why care about others?
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    Because the principle of natural selection
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    seems to suggest
    that we should all be selfish,
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    we should not care
    about others, but yet we do.
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    Why?
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    We can ask this question in birds.
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    Birds do this thing called mobbing
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    where they come help each other
    to drive off predators.
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    This cute European songbird,
    the pied flycatcher,
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    helps its neighbors
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    to drive off predators
    when they attack their nests.
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    But they are calculating little animals:
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    they only help each other
    if they are being helped back.
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    It is a famous strategy in game theory
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    that's called tit for tat.
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    But this strategy is also vulnerable
    to end up in a complete mess
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    because somebody, by accident,
    at some point, will drop the ball,
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    fail to cooperate,
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    and this whole cooperation will stop.
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    Yet, these birds keep cooperating.
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    How do they do it?
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    A Latvian professor
    Indriķis Krams and I showed
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    that pied flycatchers maintain cooperation
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    because they are able to understand
    each other's circumstances.
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    They show empathy.
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    This is how it works.
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    The bird is attacked,
    it needs help from its neighbors.
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    They usually come to help,
    and everything is fine,
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    as this bird will afterwards
    cooperate back.
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    But sometimes, the help does not come.
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    If you're playing
    a strict game of tit for tat,
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    this would lead
    to a breakdown of cooperation
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    because this animal would
    never ever talk to these guys again.
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    But these pied flycatchers
    sometimes bend these rules.
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    They forgive birds
    that couldn't come to help
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    because of honest reasons,
    such as they just weren't at home,
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    but they refuse to cooperate
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    with birds that didn't help
    even if they were able to.
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    So empathy, the ability
    to forgive some, but not all,
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    enables these birds
    to keep cooperation going.
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    And though human empathy
    surely is a much more complicated emotion,
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    our research shows
    that it's also very ancient,
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    that it's shared between birds and humans,
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    and it likely evolved
    to help us cooperate.
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    Birds can teach us
    about our sexual behavior.
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    Similarly to humans,
    birds appear monogamous,
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    which means that they form pairs,
    they have something like a family,
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    but they also cheat, have sex
    with other individuals all the time,
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    this happens around 30% of time.
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    So why is that?
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    Why do people and why do birds cheat?
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    (Laughter)
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    In terms of evolution, the answer
    may be straight forward for males
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    because the more you cheat,
    the more females you have sex with,
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    the more children you have,
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    and so you pass your genes on
    to the next generation more successfully.
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    But for females, the answer
    is less straight forward.
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    In most species, the number of children
    a female can have is limited,
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    it's constrained to a certain number.
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    So why spend time and energy
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    trying to find different fathers
    for your children
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    if you have a perfectly willing
    partner at home?
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    You can imagine
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    how hard it would be to study
    this question in humans.
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    Instead, we use a large population
    of this gray brown American sparrow
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    called dark-eyed junco.
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    We catch these birds that are cheating
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    much the same way
    we catch people who are cheating:
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    we use their DNA.
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    We compare the DNA
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    between the moms, their babies,
    and all the males in the population,
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    year after year after year.
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    We follow the babies,
    we follow the babies' babies.
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    The human equivalent of this
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    would be to study an entire town
    for something like 200 years;
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    it's a pretty hard task.
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    So using these techniques,
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    Professor Ellen Ketterson
    and Dr. Nicole Gerlach,
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    with whom I've had the pleasure
    to work with at the Indiana University,
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    showed that cheating can be advantageous,
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    that birds that cheat
    have higher evolutionary fitness.
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    And this is why.
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    Imagine two females:
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    one female, the faithful one,
    has sex only with her partner,
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    the other, the promiscuous female,
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    has sex with her partner,
    but also cheats with this other sexy dude,
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    and sexy in this species means older,
    bigger, and this big white tale.
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    They both have the same number of babies
    because they can only lay four eggs.
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    But what the promiscuous female has
    that the faithful one does not
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    is this son that was fathered
    in that promiscuous mating,
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    and this son grows up to be
    just like his dad:
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    he has a lot of sex with a lot of females
    and produces a lot of children.
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    And the result of this thing
    is that the promiscuous female
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    has way more grandchildren
    than the faithful one.
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    This is called the good genes hypothesis.
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    This shows that cheating
    can have an evolutionary advantage,
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    that it's an evolved behavior.
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    I'm not saying you should go out
    and cheat tonight,
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    that would be kind of bad,
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    but, if you do, you might just end up
    with really sexy children.
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    (Laughter)
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    So the desire to have sex
    does not stand alone,
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    there are many things
    that affect our desire to reproduce,
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    and one of the biggest ones is stress.
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    It's a big thing in our lives.
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    When I am stressed,
    like before this TEDx talk,
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    I don't want to go party,
    I don't want to have sex,
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    and I'm sure many people
    in this audience and in the backstage
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    feel the same way.
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    So why? How does stress
    affect our reproduction?
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    Why does this happen?
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    We can ask this thing in birds.
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    We can ask this in birds
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    because many aspects
    of stress and reproduction
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    are regulated by hormones,
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    and birds and humans share hormones
    that are nearly identical.
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    We both have testosterone
    that is produced in our gonads,
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    that regulates, in both males and females,
    sexual behavior and development.
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    We both have glucocorticoids,
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    stress hormones that are produced
    in the adrenal glands here.
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    We also share estrogen,
    progesterone, oxytocin, adrenaline,
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    and the list goes on and on and on,
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    so our hormones, these complicated,
    intricate systems, are nearly identical.
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    They are probably so ancient
    that they were present in dinosaurs.
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    So we can use these parallels,
    we can capitalize on these similarities
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    to study birds to answer
    questions about ourselves,
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    about how stress affects reproduction.
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    A good candidate
    for this effect is testosterone,
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    because testosterone
    is so important in reproduction.
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    I asked these brown American sparrows
    how the stress affects testosterone.
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    And it has big effects.
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    When you stress these birds out,
    when their life is in danger,
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    when they perceive
    that their life is threatened,
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    they reduce their testosterone levels,
    and then they jump up.
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    This might not be bad,
    this might actually be good
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    because maybe it is better to focus
    your energy responding to stress
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    rather than being distracted by sex.
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    But for some of us,
    stress is not just this one time thing,
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    it's a constant occurrence,
    we are stressed day after day after day.
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    What happens to our testosterone?
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    I asked this in these birds,
    and I showed that if you develop
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    in a really traumatic,
    nerve-racking environment,
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    you have lower testosterone,
    generally, and that's bad,
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    but you're also less sensitive to stress,
    and that's a good thing.
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    So my research shows
    that stress in development
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    can have major effects
    on your testosterone.
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    By understanding the mechanisms
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    by which stress affects our lives,
    by which stress affects reproduction,
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    we can move towards cures and solutions
    for problems that affect us,
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    our own problems and diseases.
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    So we can learn from birds about stress.
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    You can't use birds to study everything.
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    It wouldn't make sense
    to study cancer in birds
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    because their organs
    are a little different from ours.
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    But because their physiological
    and nervous systems are so similar to us,
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    because their behavior,
    their social behavior,
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    is so similar to ours,
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    we can use birds to ask basic questions
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    about empathy, about cooperation,
    stress, sex, and many more things.
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    For example, we can study birds
    to study personalities.
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    Why are there so many personalities?
    How are they regulated?
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    We can study birds
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    to understand how cities affect
    our behavior and our hormones.
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    We can study birds to understand
    how parenting works
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    because there aren't many animals
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    where both mom and dad
    take care of the babies.
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    This cover is from the Science magazine,
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    one of the most famous
    and influential magazines in science.
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    In this edition, scientists showed
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    that we can learn from birds
    about speech development
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    because song development in birds
    and development of speech in humans
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    share many parallels
    at the physiological level.
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    So there is much more to birds
    than just their looks.
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    As ornithologists - we're crazy people -
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    we wake up at 5 o'clock in the morning
    and drive across the country
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    not only because we want to marvel
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    at the birds, at their beauty,
    and how fun they are
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    but also because we want to learn
    fundamental truths about ourselves,
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    abut how nature works,
    about how evolution works.
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    In fact, one of the birds that tells
    the most about ourselves
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    is this seemingly unremarkable
    gray brown American sparrow.
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    But when you take a look at it,
    when you spend some time looking at it,
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    you realize how much
    you can learn from it.
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    So next time you see a bird, ask yourself,
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    "Can I learn something from you?"
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
What we can learn from birds about ourselves | Mikus Āboliņš-Ābols | TEDxRiga
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Why do we cheat? Why do we forgive? Why do we get stressed? When difficult questions like these cannot be answered using humans, we turn to other organisms. It turns out that birds have the answer …

Mikus Āboliņš-Ābols studies birds to understand how animals respond to social and environmental challenges. He believes that his work on birds can bring about fundamental insights into how stress and risk affect our social and sexual behavior.

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