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Drawing on Native American Heritage and A Sense of Humor (John Feodorov) | Art21

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    John Feodorov: I'm real interested 
    in using, like, kitsch objects
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    and trying to create spiritual-like altars.
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    This sort of weird disneyfication of 
    nature that happens in western society,
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    you know, whereas in native mythologies, 
    animals are extremely powerful totem symbols,
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    demanding, you know, fear and respect.
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    So those contradictions are 
    real important in my work.
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    You know, in kind of trying to blend 
    them into sort of a hybrid mythology.
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    "Forest at night" is made up of 12 trees. 
    Each tree has 12 arms on each side.
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    And 12 is something that's important 
    in both Christian and Navajo mythology.
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    And then, in a little plate in front 
    of each tree stump is some sawdust,
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    sort of like ashes of someone who's been cremated.
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    I'm more interested in the ambiguity. 
    I think the ambiguity is where,
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    you know, the spiritual lies.
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    That's how Navajos sing "Old Macdonald."
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    Woman: yes, I'm riding my donkey up the hill.
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    [ singing in Navajo ]
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    That's how he bumps up and down.
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    Woman: Sing with grandma.
    [ singing in Navajo ]
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    Feodorov: I have this background 
    of a traditional Navajo
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    and this sort of outsider Christian 
    background of Jehovah's Witnesses,
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    which are completely opposed to each other.
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    And I'm, like, in the middle, trying to 
    kind of, you know, make sense out of it.
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    Grandma: This is grandpa again with his horses.
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    And grandma with her horse and hillary 
    ready to go somewhere, to a powwow.
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    Feodorov: my grandmother was a hand trembler.
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    And people would go to her, and her hand 
    would begin to tremble and she would,
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    like, answer questions for them.
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    And hand tremblers sort of, are oracles.
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    Grandma: here's grandma and grandpa again.
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    And then -- oh, here you are. 
    You're walking with Grandpa.
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    Feodorov: I spent just about every summer 
    with my grandparents on the reservation
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    until probably, like, 15.
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    Grandmother: Grandpa always looks 
    so serious, but he's very comical.
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    Feodorov: well, my grandfather 
    used to be a yei be chei dancer,
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    which is one of the ritualistic 
    dances, where they put on the mask,
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    and they become the gods.
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    You know, when they start dancing, 
    the spirit enters into them.
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    The bear is a very, very powerful totem 
    symbol for Native American cultures.
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    Behind these masks are cuddly, cute little faces.
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    It's turning these teddy bears 
    into powerful totem symbols,
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    sort of giving them back their power.
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    But also they would be products 
    that consumers could buy.
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    So at the same time, we'd be 
    stripping them of their power.
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    They're just sort of examples of the 
    issue of commodifying spirituality.
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    People think that, you know, 
    many times when they buy –
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    or at least the advertising 
    wants people to believe that
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    buying something will change their 
    lives or have an effect on their lives.
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    Well, this is something that is 
    just outright telling you that.
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    I made a little handbook that 
    would accompany your purchase.
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    "Congratulations, you have just purchased 
    the most important product of your life.
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    If your life is not going 
    the way you wish it would,
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    chances are you have somehow 
    offended your totem teddy.
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    If this is the case, use the 
    handy spinning oracle to determine
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    what you must do to appease 
    your offended totem teddy."
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    And it always goes to "Try again."
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    "Warning -- the consumer must use extreme caution
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    when performing any of the 
    following dances and chants."
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    You know, like Christians, you know, 
    "Please, God, forgive me for this,"
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    or, you know, "Please, God, let me have..."
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    You know, there's none of 
    that in Navajo mythology.
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    You basically do the ritual 
    and it has to go right.
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    If, you know, your situation has to be corrected.
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    If it's not, well, it's because 
    you did the ritual wrong.
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    I'm not debunking spirituality, 
    I'm not making fun of it, I am…
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    well, yeah, I am.
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    But the thing is is that it's only 
    because I think it's necessary.
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    Years of spoon-bending research has shown
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    that employees who frequently 
    journey to the world of the dead
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    come back as highly motivated employees,
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    exactly what you need to 
    be on top and stay on top.
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    That's why we developed the Office Shaman.
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    But, you're probably asking 
    yourself, where's the shaman?
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    That's the beauty part.
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    We have highly trained licensed shamans 
    available to guide your employees
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    through their spirit quests.
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    Here's a potential motivated employee right now.
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    What's your name, sir?
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    It's Paul.
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    Paul, now, don't be afraid, but I kill you 
    from the south, I kill you from the east.
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    Feodorov: Paul Stewart and I have 
    been collaborating on music and,
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    sort of, performance art 
    pieces for almost 20 years.
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    –You're passing through the 
    world of fire, of water.
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    I am now going to sprinkle you with 
    the grave dirt of your ancestors.
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    The animal spirits have now been 
    pacified. And here are their messages.
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    Paul, stand up. Welcome back. How do you feel?
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    I feel fine.
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    Now, back to work.
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    Thanks, Office Shaman.
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    Feodorov: I'm still not really 
    interested in making comfortable works,
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    like Matisse said, you know, that 
    art should be like a comfy chair.
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    I think it should be provoking.
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    Since I knew that these were paintings 
    that were going to be in office spaces,
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    I wanted to create paintings that were 
    showing the environment that, you know,
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    that the workers were in.
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    Seeing the corporation as like a heaven.
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    You know, you have all these 
    different steps of deities.
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    The composition is obviously modeled 
    on, like, early medieval icons.
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    The CEO is seated in the throne 
    like a Christ figure would be
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    in the tympanum area of a cathedral.
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    And the hand is shaped like a pose, you know,
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    that the Christ figure makes, which 
    is a blessing pose for the hand.
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    Of course, you know, he's stuck a cigar in there,
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    which has completely defiled that tradition.
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    And to see the CO as, you know,
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    not just a guy that gets paid 
    a big salary, but as a deity.
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    On very few paintings have I known what I 
    was going to do when I started the painting.
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    For me it has to happen as I'm doing it, you know?
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    It's a battle for me, it always is. It's 
    like this canvas is like mocking me,
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    saying, you know, I dare you 
    to make something out of me.
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    So it's something for me that's not really an 
    enjoyable process, it's a struggle, you know?
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    And I guess I like the struggle.
Title:
Drawing on Native American Heritage and A Sense of Humor (John Feodorov) | Art21
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