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John Feodorov: I'm real interested
in using, like, kitsch objects
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and trying to create spiritual-like altars.
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This sort of weird disneyfication of
nature that happens in western society,
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you know, whereas in native mythologies,
animals are extremely powerful totem symbols,
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demanding, you know, fear and respect.
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So those contradictions are
real important in my work.
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You know, in kind of trying to blend
them into sort of a hybrid mythology.
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"Forest at night" is made up of 12 trees.
Each tree has 12 arms on each side.
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And 12 is something that's important
in both Christian and Navajo mythology.
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And then, in a little plate in front
of each tree stump is some sawdust,
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sort of like ashes of someone who's been cremated.
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I'm more interested in the ambiguity.
I think the ambiguity is where,
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you know, the spiritual lies.
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That's how Navajos sing "Old Macdonald."
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Woman: yes, I'm riding my donkey up the hill.
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[ singing in Navajo ]
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That's how he bumps up and down.
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Woman: Sing with grandma.
[ singing in Navajo ]
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Feodorov: I have this background
of a traditional Navajo
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and this sort of outsider Christian
background of Jehovah's Witnesses,
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which are completely opposed to each other.
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And I'm, like, in the middle, trying to
kind of, you know, make sense out of it.
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Grandma: This is grandpa again with his horses.
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And grandma with her horse and hillary
ready to go somewhere, to a powwow.
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Feodorov: my grandmother was a hand trembler.
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And people would go to her, and her hand
would begin to tremble and she would,
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like, answer questions for them.
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And hand tremblers sort of, are oracles.
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Grandma: here's grandma and grandpa again.
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And then -- oh, here you are.
You're walking with Grandpa.
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Feodorov: I spent just about every summer
with my grandparents on the reservation
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until probably, like, 15.
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Grandmother: Grandpa always looks
so serious, but he's very comical.
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Feodorov: well, my grandfather
used to be a yei be chei dancer,
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which is one of the ritualistic
dances, where they put on the mask,
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and they become the gods.
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You know, when they start dancing,
the spirit enters into them.
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The bear is a very, very powerful totem
symbol for Native American cultures.
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Behind these masks are cuddly, cute little faces.
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It's turning these teddy bears
into powerful totem symbols,
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sort of giving them back their power.
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But also they would be products
that consumers could buy.
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So at the same time, we'd be
stripping them of their power.
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They're just sort of examples of the
issue of commodifying spirituality.
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People think that, you know,
many times when they buy –
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or at least the advertising
wants people to believe that
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buying something will change their
lives or have an effect on their lives.
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Well, this is something that is
just outright telling you that.
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I made a little handbook that
would accompany your purchase.
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"Congratulations, you have just purchased
the most important product of your life.
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If your life is not going
the way you wish it would,
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chances are you have somehow
offended your totem teddy.
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If this is the case, use the
handy spinning oracle to determine
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what you must do to appease
your offended totem teddy."
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And it always goes to "Try again."
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"Warning -- the consumer must use extreme caution
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when performing any of the
following dances and chants."
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You know, like Christians, you know,
"Please, God, forgive me for this,"
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or, you know, "Please, God, let me have..."
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You know, there's none of
that in Navajo mythology.
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You basically do the ritual
and it has to go right.
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If, you know, your situation has to be corrected.
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If it's not, well, it's because
you did the ritual wrong.
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I'm not debunking spirituality,
I'm not making fun of it, I am…
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well, yeah, I am.
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But the thing is is that it's only
because I think it's necessary.
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Years of spoon-bending research has shown
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that employees who frequently
journey to the world of the dead
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come back as highly motivated employees,
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exactly what you need to
be on top and stay on top.
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That's why we developed the Office Shaman.
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But, you're probably asking
yourself, where's the shaman?
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That's the beauty part.
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We have highly trained licensed shamans
available to guide your employees
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through their spirit quests.
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Here's a potential motivated employee right now.
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What's your name, sir?
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It's Paul.
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Paul, now, don't be afraid, but I kill you
from the south, I kill you from the east.
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Feodorov: Paul Stewart and I have
been collaborating on music and,
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sort of, performance art
pieces for almost 20 years.
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–You're passing through the
world of fire, of water.
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I am now going to sprinkle you with
the grave dirt of your ancestors.
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The animal spirits have now been
pacified. And here are their messages.
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Paul, stand up. Welcome back. How do you feel?
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I feel fine.
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Now, back to work.
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Thanks, Office Shaman.
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Feodorov: I'm still not really
interested in making comfortable works,
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like Matisse said, you know, that
art should be like a comfy chair.
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I think it should be provoking.
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Since I knew that these were paintings
that were going to be in office spaces,
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I wanted to create paintings that were
showing the environment that, you know,
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that the workers were in.
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Seeing the corporation as like a heaven.
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You know, you have all these
different steps of deities.
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The composition is obviously modeled
on, like, early medieval icons.
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The CEO is seated in the throne
like a Christ figure would be
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in the tympanum area of a cathedral.
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And the hand is shaped like a pose, you know,
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that the Christ figure makes, which
is a blessing pose for the hand.
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Of course, you know, he's stuck a cigar in there,
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which has completely defiled that tradition.
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And to see the CO as, you know,
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not just a guy that gets paid
a big salary, but as a deity.
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On very few paintings have I known what I
was going to do when I started the painting.
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For me it has to happen as I'm doing it, you know?
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It's a battle for me, it always is. It's
like this canvas is like mocking me,
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saying, you know, I dare you
to make something out of me.
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So it's something for me that's not really an
enjoyable process, it's a struggle, you know?
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And I guess I like the struggle.