Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge
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Not SyncedLawrence Lessig: Thank you very much. It's extremely cool to be here.
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Not SyncedIt's just about as cool as when I spoke at Pixar.
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Not SyncedI think of these two as being highlights of my career (check).
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Not SyncedSo, thank you very much for having me.
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Not SyncedI have two small ideas I want to use as an introduction to an argument,
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Not Syncedabout the nature of access to scientific knowledge in the context of the internet,
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Not Syncedand use that argument as a step towards a plea about what we should do.
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Not SyncedSo here is the first idea.
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Not SyncedI want to call it the "White-effect".
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Not SyncedAnd I name that after Justice Byron White, justice of the US Supreme Court,
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Not Syncedappointed by John F. Kennedy - here he is in 1962
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Not Synced- famous before that as 'Whizzer' White on the Yale University football team
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Not SyncedWhen he was appointed to the Supreme Court, he was a famous liberal,
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Not Syncedrenowned liberal, the only appointee that John Kennedy had to the Supreme Court.
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Not SyncedBut 'Whizzer' White grew old, and he is probably most famous for an infamous opinion,
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Not Syncedwhich he penned on behalf of the Supreme Court, Bowers v. Hardwick,
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Not Syncedan opinion where the Supreme Court upheld the Criminalization of Sodomy law.
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Not SyncedHere is the passage: 'Against this background, to claim that a right to engage
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Not Syncedin such conduct' - homosexual sodomy - 'is "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition"
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Not Syncedor "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty" is, at best, facetious.'
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Not SyncedNow, this is what I want to think of as the "White Effect".
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Not SyncedTo be a liberal or a progressive is always relative to a moment, and that moment changes,
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Not Syncedand too many are liberal or progressive no more.
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Not SyncedSo, that's the "White effect". Here is the second idea.
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Not SyncedThe Harvard Gazette is a kind of propaganda publication of Harvard University,
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Not Syncedit talks about all the happy things at Harvard.
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Not SyncedSo here's an article that it wrote, about an extraordinary macro-economist,
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Not SyncedGita Gopinath, who has just come to Harvard, received tenure last year
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Not Syncedand is one of the most influential macroeconomists in the United States right now.
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Not SyncedThis article talks about her work and her research, and at the very end,
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Not Syncedthere is this puzzling passage, where it says:
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Not Synced'Still, the shelves in her new office are nearly bare, since, said Gopinath,
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Not Synced"Everything I need is on the Internet now." '
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Not SyncedRight, that's the second idea. Here is the argument.
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Not SyncedSo, copyright is a regulation by the State intended to change
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Not Synceda regulation by the market. It's an exclusive right, a monopoly right,
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Not Synceda property right granted by the State, which is necessary
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Not Syncedto solve an inevitable market failure.
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Not SyncedNow, by saying that it's necessary to solve an inevitable market failure,
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Not SyncedI'm marking myself as a pro-copyright scholar,
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Not Syncedin the sense that I believe copyright is necessary, even in a digital age.
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Not SyncedEspecially in a digital age, copyright is necessary to achieve
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Not Syncedcertain incentives that otherwise would be lost.
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Not SyncedBut in the internet age, what we've seen as a fight about copyright,
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Not Syncedabout the scope of copyright, waged most consistently in the context
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Not Syncedof the battle over artists' rights, in particular, in the context of music,
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Not Syncedwhere massive 'sharing' - sharing which is technically illegal - has lead to a fight
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Not Syncedfought by artists and especially by artists' representatives.
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Not SyncedAnd we from the Free Culture movement, have challenged the people
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Not Syncedwho have been waging that fight.
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Not SyncedAnd they defend copyright in the context of that fight.
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Not SyncedBut if we get above the din of this battle, the important thing to keep in mind
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Not Syncedis that both sides in this fight acknowledge that copyright is essential
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Not Syncedfor certain creative work,
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Not Syncedand we need to respect copyright for that creative work.
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Not SyncedWe, from the Free Culture movement, need to respect copyright for that work,
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Not Syncedwe need to recognize that there is a place for sensible copyright policy
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Not Syncedto protect and encourage that work.
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Not SyncedBut, however - and here is the important distinction -
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Not SyncedNot only artists rely upon copyright, copyright is also relied upon by publishers,
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Not Syncedand publishers are a different animal.
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Not SyncedWe don't have to be as negative as John Milton was when he wrote publishers are
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Not Synced"Old patentees and monopolizers in the trade of books
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Not Synced- men who do no labor in an honest profession, to [them], learning is indebted."
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Not SyncedWe don't have to go quite that far to recognize why publishers are different,
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Not Syncedthat the economic problem for publishers is different
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Not Syncedfrom the economic problems presented by creating.
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Not SyncedSo who is copyright for? The publishers or the artists?
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Not SyncedWell, since the beginning of copyright in the Anglo-American tradition,
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Not Syncedthe Statute of Anne of 1710, there has been this argument about whether copyright
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Not Syncedwas intended for the publishers or the artists.
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Not SyncedWhen the Statute of Anne was originally introduced, it gave a perpetual term of copyright,
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Not Syncedwhich the publishers understood to be a protection for them.
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Not SyncedIt was then amended to give just a limited term for copyright.
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Not SyncedPublishers were puzzled about that, because it wouldn't make sense to give a limited term
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Not Syncedif it was the publisher that was to be protected.
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Not SyncedIn 1769, a court case in the context of Millar v. Taylor seemd to suggest that
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Not Synceddespite the limitation of the Statute of Anne, copyright was for ever.
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Not SyncedBut in 1774, in a very famous case about this book, The Seasons, by James Thomson,
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Not Syncedthe House of Lords have held that copyright protected by the Status of Anne was limited,
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Not Syncedholding for the first time that works passed into the public domain.
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Not SyncedAnd for the first time in English history, works including Shakespeare
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Not Syncedpassed into the public domain. And in this moment, we can say Free Culture was born.
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Not SyncedAnd it also clarified that copyright was not intended for the publisher.
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Not SyncedEven if it benefited the publishers, it was a creative right
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Not Syncedand author's right. Even if benefitting publishers, copyright was for authors.
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Not SyncedSo, I remark these obvious borders about the scope of copyright,
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Not Syncedbecause we tend to forget them. We've been fighting a battle in the context of copyright
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Not Syncedwhere copyright is essential, and we are spending too little attention
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Not Syncedabout a battle in a context where copyright is not essential.
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Not SyncedAnd I mean by that, in the context of science, in the context that Gopinath was speaking of
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Not Syncedwhen she talked about everything being available on the internet.
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Not SyncedAnd the consequence of failing to pay attention to this second context
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Not Syncedwithin which this battle is being waged is that there is a trouble here
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Not Syncedthat too few see.
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Not SyncedSo let's think about this claim that everything is on the internet now.
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Not SyncedWhat does that mean?
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Not SyncedHere is a particular example to evaluate what that means.
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Not SyncedMuch of my work, these days, is focusing on corruption
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Not Syncedin the context of this institution, Congress.
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Not SyncedSo let's say that we wanted to study, you wanted to study with me,
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Not Syncedcorruption in this context. Go to Google Scholar and enter a search for campaign finance.
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Not SyncedHere are the top articles that would be listed from that search.
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Not SyncedSo let's say you wanted to browse through these articles
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Not Syncedand get a sense of campaign finance and how it might be related to corruption in Congress.
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Not SyncedSo here are the top 10 articles. This first one, a very famous one
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Not Syncedby my former colleagues Pam Karlan and Sam Issacharof.
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Not SyncedYou would find, to get access to this article, you'd have to pay $29.95.
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Not SyncedThe second article, housed at JSTOR, you'd have to get through to get permission
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Not Syncedfrom the Columbia Law Review - not quite clear how you would do that.
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Not SyncedThird article, again, $29.95. The fourth article, protected by Questia,
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Not Syncedwe learn that you can get a 1-day free trial to all these Oxford University Press articles,
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Not Syncedyou'd only have to pay when that day is over 99 dollars
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Not Syncedto continue for a year.
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Not SyncedHere is the 4th article again, protected by JSTOR.
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Not SyncedThe 5th article, it's an economics article, so the price is right on the surface:
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Not Synced10 dollars to purchase access to this article.
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Not SyncedHere's the 7th article, Columbia Law Review.
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Not Synced8th article, Columbia Law Review, 9th article, protected again by JSTOR,
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Not Synced10th article, $29.95. So, how accessible is this information to the general public?
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Not SyncedWell, one of these you can get access to for free, at least one time only,
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Not SyncedOne of them you can pay $10 for. 3 of them, $29.95, and 5 of them, terms unknown,
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Not Syncedprotected by JSTOR.
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Not SyncedSo, when Gopinath says "Everything I need is on the internet",
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Not Syncedwhat does she mean? What she means is if - and this is a big if -
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Not Syncedyou're a tenured professor in an elite university or we could say a professor,
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Not Syncedor a student or professor in an elite university, or maybe
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Not Synceda student or professor at a US university, if you are a member of the knowledge elite,
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Not Syncedthen you have effectively free access to all of this information.
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Not SyncedBut if you are from the rest of the world? Not so much.
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Not SyncedNow, the thing to recognize is we built this world,
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Not Syncedwe built this architecture for access that flows from the deployment of copyright,
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Not Syncedbut here, copyright to benefit publishers. Not to enable authors.
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Not SyncedNot one of these authors gets money from copyright.
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Not SyncedNot one of them wants the distribution of their articles limited.
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Not SyncedNot one of them has a business model that turns upon restricting access to their work.
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Not SyncedNot one of them should support this system.
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Not SyncedAs a knowledge policy for the creators of this knowledge, this is crazy.
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Not SyncedAnd the craziness doesn't stop here.
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Not SyncedSo, my third child is this extraordinarily beautiful girl, Samantha Tess.
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Not SyncedWhen she was born, the doctors were worried she had a condition
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Not Syncedthat would suggest jaundice. I had jaundice as a baby, so I didn't think it was serious,
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Not Syncedand I was told very forcefully by her doctor, this is extroardinarily serious.
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Not SyncedIf this condition manifest in the dangerous condition, it would produce brain damage,
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Not Syncedpossibly death.
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Not SyncedSo, of course, we were terrified. I went home and I did what every academic did,
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Not SyncedI pulled everything I could from the web to study about what jaundice was
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Not Syncedand what the conditions were. Now, because I am a Harvard professor,
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Not Syncedof course, I didn't have to pay to get access to this information, but I just kept the total.
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Not SyncedTo get access to these 20 articles that I wanted access to was $435,
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Not Syncedfor the ordinary human, not a Harvard professor. OK.
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Not SyncedSo I gathered these articles and set them aside, believing this problem
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Not Syncedwould not manifest itself in such a serious way.
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Not SyncedBut on her third day, she fell into a stupor, and we called the doctor,
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Not Syncedand the doctor was panciked and he said we had to get to the hospital immediately.
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Not SyncedSo, at 3 o'clock in the morning, we trundled the baby up and raced to the hospital.
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Not SyncedWe were sitting in the waiting room, and I brought the articles with me,
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Not Syncedbecause I wanted something to do, to distract me from the terror
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Not Syncedthat my child had this condition.
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Not SyncedAnd I picked up the first of these articles, which is actually free,
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Not Syncedpublished on the web for free, at the American Family Physician,
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Not Syncedand I started reading about this condition.
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Not SyncedAnd I got to this table, a table that was going to describe
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Not Syncedwhen you should worry about whether the child would have too severe of this exposure.
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Not SyncedI turned the page, and this is what I found:
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Not Synced"The rightsholder did not grant rights to reproduce this item in electronic media.
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Not SyncedFor the missing item, see the original print version of this publication."
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Not SyncedAnd I had this moment of liberation from fear about my child,
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Not Syncedbecause I turned to fear about our culture. I thought, this is outrageous!
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Not SyncedThe idea that we are regulating access down to the chart in an article
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Not Syncedthat was published for free to help, not doctors, but parents
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Not Syncedunderstand what this condition was.
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Not SyncedWe are regulating access to parts of articles.
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Not SyncedNow here and throughout our architecture for access,
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Not Syncedwe are building an infrastructure for this regulation.
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Not SyncedThink of the Google Books project, which is perfecting control down to the sentence,
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Not Syncedthe ability to regulate access down to the sentence.
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Not SyncedBy the way, I alway forget to tell this: the kid is fine, she didn't have jaundice,
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Not Syncedit is a complete non issue.
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Not SyncedBut the point is, we are archintecting access here, for what purpose?
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Not SyncedTo maximize revenue. And why? Revenue to the authors?
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Not SyncedRevenues necessary to produce the incentive to create?
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Not SyncedIs this a limitation that serves any of the real objectives of copyright? (14:00)
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Not SyncedThe answer is no.
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Not SyncedIt is simply the natural result of for-profit production
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Not Syncedfor any good that we, quote, must have.
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Not SyncedAs Bergstrom and McAfee describe in a really fantastic little bit of work,
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Not Syncedif you compare the cost per page of for-profit publishers
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Not Syncedand the cost per page of not-for-profit publishers in these different fields of science,
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Not Syncedit's a 4 and a half times factor difference cost per page.
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Not SyncedThat is a function of different, of these having different objectives.
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Not SyncedOne objective is to spread knowledge: that's the not-for-profit publishers,
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Not Syncedand one objective, to maximize profit: that's the for-profit publishers.
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Not SyncedNow, this architecture for access is beginning to build resistance.
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Not SyncedSo, think about story of JSTOR.
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Not SyncedJSTOR was launched in 1995, with an extraordinary amount of funding
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Not Syncedfrom the Mellon Foundation. That funding produced a huge archive
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Not Syncedof journal articles. So that there are now more than 1200 journals, 20 collections,
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Not Synced53 disciplines, 303'000 issues, about 28 million pages in JSTOR archive.
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Not SyncedWhen this archive was launched, everybody thought it was brilliant.
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Not SyncedEverybody thought the access here was extraordinary.
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Not SyncedBut today? There is increasingly criticism growing out there
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Not Syncedabout how JSTOR makes its information accessible.
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Not SyncedWe could think of it as a kind of "White effect".
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Not SyncedIt was liberal when it was launched, but what has it become as it has grown old?
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Not SyncedSo, for example, here is an article published in the
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Not SyncedCalifornia Historical Society Quarterly. It's 6 pages long.
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Not SyncedTo get it, you have to pay $20 to JSTOR, this non-profit organization,
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Not Syncedleading Carl Malamud, who of course is famous for his Public Resources site,
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Not Syncedto tweet in the following way: "JSTOR is morally offensive.
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Not Synced$20 for a 6-page article, unless you happen to work at a fancy school."
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Not SyncedNow, you might say, "This is a really important academic archive",
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Not Syncedbut the question is whether this really important academic archive
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Not Syncedis going to become a kind of RIAA for the academy.
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Not SyncedBegging the question that the "White effect" always begs,
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Not Syncedwhether we could do this better under a different set of assumptions.
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Not SyncedNow, of course the Open Access movement is the movement that was launched
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Not Syncedto try and do this better under different circumstances.
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Not SyncedNow, it has a long history, but its real push was inspired by
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Not Synceda dramatic increase in the cost of journals.
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Not SyncedSo, if this is a study between 1986 and 2004 by the American Research Libraries,
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Not Syncedthis is the increase in inflation, this is the increase in the cost of serials,
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Not Syncedit's obvious that the market power of these publishers is being exploited,
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Not Syncedbecause the purchasers of these serials have no choice but to buy them.
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Not SyncedIt's in part motivated by this cost concern, it's also motivated by a sense of unfairness.
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Not SyncedWe do all the work, they get all the money, here.
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Not Synced#1 an open access self-archiving movement, where the push has been
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Not Synced"Let's get as many things out there archived on the Web as we can,
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Not Syncedthe Web can make them accessible" - and an Open Access publishing movement.
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Not SyncedNow, what's the difference between these two movements?
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Not SyncedThe difference is licensing. Some "open" is "free", in the sense that Richard Stallman
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Not Syncedmade famous by his quote: "Free software is a matter of liberty, not price.
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Not SyncedTo understand the concept, you should think of free as in free speech,
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Not Syncednot as in free beer."
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Not SyncedSo, some aspect of the Open Access publishing is free as in free speech,
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Not Syncedsome "open" is not. Some is just free as in: "You can download it freely,
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Not Syncedbut the rights that you get from the download are just as broad
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Not Syncedas narrowly granted by some implicit copyright rule.
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Not SyncedNow, "free", as in licensed freely, has been the objective that the Science Commons project,
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Not Syncedwhich is a project that Creative Commons has been pushing,
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Not Syncedthe information architecture that science needs, as they announce
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Not Syncedin their "Principles for open science". There are four principles here.
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Not SyncedThe first is, there should be open access to literature, by which Science Commons says:
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Not Syncedyou should be on the internet, literature "should be on the internet
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Not Syncedto users to read, download, copy, distribute, print, search or link
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Not Syncedto the full texts of articles, crawl them indexing, pass them data to software,
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Not Syncedor use them for any other lawful purpose,
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Not Syncedfrom gaining access to the internet itself."
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Not SyncedThat's what "free", here, means.
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Not SyncedSecond, access to research tools: there should be "materials necessary
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Not Syncedmade available under standard terms of use or contracts,
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Not Syncedwith infrastructure or resources to fulfill requests to qualified scientists,
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Not Synced#3 Data should be in the public domain. "Research data, data sets, databases,
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Not Syncedand protocols should be in the public domain."
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Not Syncedmeaning no copyright restrictions at all.
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Not SyncedAnd 4, Open cyber-infrastructure:
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Not Synced"Data without structure and annotation is an opportunity lost.
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Not SyncedResearch data should flow in an open, public and extensible infrastructure
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Not Syncedthat supposrts its recombination and reconfiguration into computer models,
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Not SyncedThis infrastructure is an essential public good."
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Not SyncedNow, my view is, this the right way - you might think this is the left way -
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Not Syncedbut it's the correct way to instantiate this Open Access movement.
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Not SyncedThe values and the efficiency and the justice in this architecture
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Not Syncedare the right values, efficiency and justice for an Open Access movement.
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Not SyncedSo let's call it, following Stallman, the Free Access Movement.
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Not SyncedAnd the critical question of the Free Access movement
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Not SyncedDoes the license grant freedoms?
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Not SyncedAnd that, of course, was the motivation between the Public Library of Science -
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Not Syncedevery one of their articles is published under a Creative Commons
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Not SyncedAttribution license, the freeest license we have.
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Not Syncedwhich is studying Open Access publishing.
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Not SyncedThis is the first of three stages of this project. When studying the large publishers,
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Not Syncedthis study concludes that "Half of the large publishers use some version
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Not Syncedof a Creative Commons license. These seven publish 72% of the titles
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Not SyncedAnd of these, 82% use the freeest license, cc-by, and 18% use cc-by-nc", non commercial.
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Not SyncedAnd that of course is an excellent report on the progress of this free access movement
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Not SyncedFor these other publishers, only 73% you can determine copyright status (check)
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Not Synced69% transfer the copyright to the publisher. Only 21 % of the articles
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Not SyncedNow, this is because these other publishers are using copyright as a means,
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Not Synceda means to a non-knowledge ends, to a non-copyright ends.
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Not SyncedSo, for example, they are using it to support the societies
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Not Syncedthat particular journal, that society that might be studying
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Not Syncedone particular of science.
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Not SyncedThat society, of course, is valuable, but what they are doing
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Not Syncedis using copyright to support that society.
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Not SyncedAnd the consequence of that strategy is to block access to all but the few.
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Not SyncedWe don't achieve the objectives of the Enlightenment,
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Not Syncedwe achieve the reality of an elite-nment, the elite-nment
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Not Syncedwhich describes the way in which we spread knowledge
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Not Synceddespite the ideas of the Enlightenment.
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Not SyncedAnd the point I'm emphasizing here is that it's for no good copyright reason.
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Not SyncedNow, the slowness inside of science to embrace this more broadly,
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Not Syncedespecially among the smaller publishers, may surprise some,
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Not Syncedis to be a fad-resistor, the idea is to have an infrastructure
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Not Syncedthat avoids fads, and tradition then becomes the metric of what's right
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Not Syncedor of what's good in science.
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Not SyncedBut I think it's time to recognize that Free Access, as in free speech, access
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Not SyncedAnd it's time to push this non fad more broadly in the context of science.
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Not SyncedNow, just because I'm talking about how bad some area of science is,
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Not SyncedI don't mean to suggest that the arts is good, right?
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Not SyncedWe have practices in the context of the arts that are just as bad, here.
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Not SyncedFor example, think about a recent episode around YouTube.
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Not SyncedYou know, we should not minimize the significance of YouTube
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Not SyncedYouTube now has 43 different languages.
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Not SyncedThere is more uploaded in one month on Youtube
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Not SyncedEvery single day, 6 new years of video gets uploaded to YouTube.
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Not SyncedThere are 2 billion views of YouTube every single year.
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Not Syncedevery single day, sorry. That's 40% increase over just the last year.
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Not SyncedAnd I've been famously a friend (check) of this extraordinary site
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Not Syncedbecause I celebrate the kind of read-write creativity
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Not SyncedAnd I got this sense of what we should think of as read-write creativity
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Not Syncedwhen he was - I didn't read it in 1906 but the testimony was given in 1906 -
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Not Synced"These talking machines are going to ruin the artistic development
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Not SyncedWhen I was a boy, in front of every house in the summer evenings
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Not SyncedWe will not have a vocal chord left," Souza said,
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Not Synced"The vocal chords will be eliminated by a process of evolution,
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Not Syncedas was the tail of man when he came from the ape."
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Not SyncedNow this is the picture I want you to focus on.
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Not SyncedThis picture of "young people together, singing the songs of the day
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Not SyncedThis is a picture of culture. We could call it, using modern computer terminology,
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Not Synceda kind of read-write culture.
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Not SyncedIt's a culture where people participage in the creation and the re-creation
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Not Syncedof their culture: in that sense, it's read-write.
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Not Synced"read-only" culture. A culture where creativity is consumed
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Not Syncedwhere the vocal cords of the millions of ordinary potential creators
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Not Syncedbecause of these infernal machines: technology, technology like this,
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Not Syncedor technology like this, to produce a culture like this,
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Not SyncedA culture good for listening, but not a culture good for speaking,
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Not SyncedNow, the first popular instantiation of the internet,
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Not SyncedSo, Napster, which of course, built the largest music archive,
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Not SyncedThese were technologies to enable access,
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Not SyncedBut then, shortly in - after the turn of the century, I think,
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Not SyncedBlair: My first love: you're every breath that I take,
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Not SyncedBush: And I, I want to share
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Not SyncedBush and Blair: all my love with you
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Not SyncedBush: No one else will do.
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Not SyncedBlair: And your eyes
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Not SyncedBush: Your eyes, your eyes
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Not SyncedBush and Blair: they tell me how much you care for...
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Not Syncedannouncer: remember to(?) take dictation"
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Not SyncedLessig: OK. And then.more recently, I don't know if (?) many of you
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Not Syncedhave seen this extraordinary site ThruYou.
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Not SyncedThis is a site that takes content only from YouTube
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Not Syncedand remixes it to produce albums and videos. I mean this is his latest, you know.
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Not SyncedVoice: This is my mother:
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Not SyncedMother: Howdy, howdy. OK.
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Not Synced[pays a continuo on keyboard]
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Not SyncedTenesan1 [see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8sSXO9VWk ]
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Not SyncedTenesan1: The song I'm going to sing, I wrote, is called "Green"
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Not Synced[Tenesan1 sings "Green" on the keyboard continuo]
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Not Synced[Horn enters]
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Not SyncedLessig: So this is then what I think of as a platform for read-write creativity.
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Not Synced[ "Crank That" by Soulja Boy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLGLum5SyKQ + Superman:] You Soulja Boy..
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Not SyncedI got a new dance fo you all called the soulja boy
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Not SyncedAaah!
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Not SyncedLessig: so that video inspired this video:
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Not Synced[video 2] You Soulja Boy ...
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Not SyncedLessig: which then inspired this video
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Not Synced[Video 3] Soulja Boy ...
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Not SyncedLessig: Well here is another example. I'm sure many of you remember
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Not Synced[Lisztomania: Phoenix' clip]
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Not SyncedLessig (over clip): So classic music video style
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Not SyncedLessig: Somebody got the idea that they would take John Hughes' content
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Not Synced[remix] So sentimental
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Not Syncednot sentimental, no
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Not SyncedLessig: Then somebody had the idea that they would make a local version
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Not SyncedLessig: And then San Francisco decided they'd like to copy:
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Not Synced[San Francisco remix:]
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Not SyncedLessig: And then Boston University decided they would copy:
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Not Synced[Boston U remix:]
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Not SyncedLessig: There are others, literally scores of these on the internet,
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Not Synced(1 sentence ????)
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Not Syncedevery other place... these people doing the same kind of remix.
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Not SyncedThe point to recognize is that this is then what Souza was romanticizing
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Not Syncedon this free digital platform that allows people to sing and respond,
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Not Syncedand respond again all across the world,
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Not Syncedin my view, important and valuable, in understanding
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Not Syncedhow this kind of culture develops and spreads.
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Not SyncedNow, is it legal?
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Not SyncedWell, YouTube has just stepped into this battle, of whether it's legal.
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Not SyncedThey've launched this Copyright School
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Not SyncedSo I will give you a little bit of their copyright school.
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Not SyncedEverybody has really been looking forward to the new video
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Not Syncedfrom Lumpy and the Lumpettes.
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Not SyncedEven Lumpy.
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Not SyncedRussell's a huge fan. He can't wait to tell all his friends about it.
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Not SyncedHey, Russell, you didn't create that video!
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Not SyncedLessig: OK, this first part is pretty standard,
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Not Syncedand even copying in a live performance and uploading.
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Not SyncedAnd that's fair, that's true, that's accurate in its statement
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Not Syncedof what copyright law is, and I think what copyright law should be.
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Not SyncedBut I want to focus on their talk about remix,
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Not Syncedwhich might be confusing to you, and if you do, you should buy
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Not Syncedmultiple copies of my book, "Remix" to understand what it's about.
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Not SyncedBut here's YouTube's version of the story of remix
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Not Synced[YouTube video cont.] Oh, Russell! Your reuse of the Lumpy's content is clever,
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Not Syncedbut did you get permission for it?
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Not SyncedMashups or remixes of content may also require permission
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Not SyncedIn the United States [text shown onscreen is read very fast] ...
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Not Syncedyou should consult a qualified copyright attorney.
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Not SyncedLessig: OK. "Consult a qualified copyright attorney"?
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Not SyncedThese are 15-year olds. You're trying to teach 15-year olds
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Not Syncedthis thing called fair use, and you read it so fast
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Not SyncedYou believe you've actually explained something sensible?
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Not SyncedThis is crazy talk.
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Not SyncedOf course we train lawyers to understand it, and not think it's crazy talk,
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Not SyncedIt's an absurd system here.
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Not Syncedto distribute it without paying some sort of royalty
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Not Syncedto the copyright owner whose work has been remixed.
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Not SyncedLibertarian man: Copyright policy isn't just about how to incentivize
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Not Syncedinevitably permeated by pop culture.
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Not SyncedI think it's important that we keep these two different kinds
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Not SyncedI think we risk suppressing this different and richer
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Not SyncedLessig: Bingo. That's the point.
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Not SyncedThere are two kinds of cultures her. The commecial culture
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Not SyncedAnd even YouTube, now, the company most responsible
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Not Syncedfor this revival of this remix culture,
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Not SyncedHere is what I think we need to do here.
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Not SyncedIn both these contexts, both science and culture,
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Not SyncedThere are copyright abolitionists out there, and I'not one them.
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Not SyncedWhat we need is reform, both of the law and of us.
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Not SyncedSo, of the law: I, last year, had the opportunity -
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Not Syncedhas a conception of what WIPO should do here (40:20)
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Not Syncedand it's very similar. They should launch what we could think of
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Not Syncedas a Blue Skies Commission, a commission to think about
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Not Syncedwhat architecture for copyright makes sense in the digital age.
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Not SyncedThe presumption is, copyright is necessary,
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Not Synced#1 Copyright has got to be simple. If it purports to regulate
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Not Synced15 year olds, 15 year olds must be able to understand it.
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Not SyncedThey don't understand it now.
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Not SyncedNo one understands it now.
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Not SyncedAnd we need to remake it, to make it simple,
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Not Synced#2 It needs to be efficient.
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Not SyncedCopyright is a property system. It also happens to be
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Not Syncedthe most inefficient property system known to man.
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Not SyncedWe can't know who owns what in this system,
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Not Syncedbecause we have no system for recording ownership
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Not Syncedand allowing us to allocate ownership as we want.
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Not SyncedAn the only remedy to that is to restore a kind of formality,
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Not SyncedAnd this is a position that's even supported by the RIAA
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Not Syncedas one of the essential reforms to copyright.
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Not Synced#3 Copyright has got to be better targeted. It's got to regulate selectively.
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Not Syncedyou guys in hundred dimensions but here is my two dimensions -
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Not SyncedWhat we have in the current regime of copyright
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Not Syncedis presumption of copyright regulates the same
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Not SyncedBut that's a mistake. Obviously copyright needs to regulate
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Not Syncedefficiently here, copies of professional works,
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Not Syncedso 10'000 copies of Madonna's latest CD is a problem
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Not Syncedthat copyright law needs to worry about,
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Not SyncedBut this area, amateurs remixing culture needs to be free
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Not Syncedof the regulation of copyright. Not fair use, but free use.
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Not SyncedNot even triggering copyright's concern.
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Not SyncedAnd then these two middle cases are harder.
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Not SyncedThere needs to be some response to that problem.
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Not SyncedThe point her is that if you think about this, I'm talking about
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Not Syncedderegulating a significant space of culture,
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Not Syncedand focusing the regulation of copyright work (?) and do some good.
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Not Synced#4 It needs to be effective. And effective means
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Not Syncedit must actually work in getting artists paid.
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Not SyncedThe current system does not work in getting artists paid.
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Not SyncedAnd #5 It needs to be realistic.
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Not SyncedThink about the problem of peer-to-peer, quote, piracy internationally,
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Not SyncedWe've, for the last decade, been waging what is referred to
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Not Syncedas a war. My friend, the late Jack Valenti, former head of the
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Not SyncedMotion Picture Associationof America used to refer to it as
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Not Syncedhis own, quote, "terrorist war", where apparently the terrorists in this war
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Not Syncedare our children.
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Not SyncedNow this war has been a total failure.
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Not SyncedIt has not achieve its objective of reducing copyrights sharing
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Not Syncedor ilegal peer-to-peer file sharing.
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Not SyncedWe sue for peace. We sue for peace in this war,
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Not SyncedSo, compulsory licenses, voluntary collective licenses (44:05)
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Not Syncedor the German Greens' suggestion of a cultural flat rate
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Not Syncedwhich would be collected and allocated to artists
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Not Syncedon the basis of the harm suffered because of P2P file-sharing,
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Not Syncedall of these are alternatives to waging a war
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Not Syncedto stop sharing, when sharing is of course at the core
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Not Syncedof the architecture of the Net,
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Not Syncedand all of them recognize that if we achieve
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Not Syncedthat alternative, we don't need to block this system of sharing.
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Not SyncedNow, the thing to think about is, if we had had one of these alternatives
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Not Synced10 years ago, what would the world look like today,
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Not Syncedhow would it be different?
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Not SyncedNow one difference is, artists would get more money,
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Not Syncedthey would have gotten more money, because
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Not Syncedwhile we have been waging war against artists [sic: "children"?]
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Not Syncedartists haven't got anything, only lawyers have.
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Not SyncedBusinesses would have had more competition,
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Not Syncedhow they could exploit this new digital ethnologies.
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Not SyncedBut most important to me, is, we wouldn't have a generation
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Not Syncedof criminals who have grown up being called criminals
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Not Syncedbecause they are technically pirates, according to
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Not Syncedthis outdated copyright law.
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Not SyncedSo these 5 objectives would go into the conception of what
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Not Syncedthis Blue Skies commission should think about
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Not Syncedand I think it should think of this in a 5 year process
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Not Syncedtalking about something not to into effect for 10 years.
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Not SyncedThink of it as a kind of Map for Berne II, but Bern ii being
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Not Synceda system that could work to achieve the objectives of copyright
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Not Syncedin a digital age. That's what the law should do.
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Not SyncedBut most important right now is what we need to do.
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Not SyncedWe, both in the context of business - so in the context of business,
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Not SyncedWe're in the age of remix, where writing is remix,
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Not Syncedwhere teachers tell students to go out to the web
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Not Syncedwrite a report about whatever it is they are assigning them
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Not Syncedto write reports about.
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Not SyncedThat means Google and Bing need to help our kids
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Not Synceddo it legally, which they don't, right now.
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Not SyncedSo for example, this extraordinary service, which Google
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Not Syncedgives you when you want to do an image search:
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Not Syncedlet's say you search for an image, you do an image search on flowers,
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Not SyncedThis, over here - I don't know if you play with this -
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Not Syncedis really extraordinary: you can then narrow the search
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Not Syncedon the basis of many of these categories,
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Not Syncedincluding like the color of the photograph.
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Not SyncedSo you want pink flowers, there you can see all the pink flowers,
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Not Syncedjust by clicking on the link.
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Not SyncedBut why, in this extraction, don't we also have an option
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Not SyncedShow the content that is explicitly licensed to be reusable,
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Not Syncedbecause Google indexes Creative Commons licenses
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Not Syncedassociated with these images.
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Not SyncedWhy not make it on the surface easy to begin to filter out
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Not Syncedthose that you can use with the permission of the author
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Not Syncedfrom those that presumptively require a lawyer?
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Not SyncedSame thing in the context of a site like YouTube.
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Not SyncedWhy don't we enable more easily the signaling by the creator
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Not Syncedthat others should be able to download and reuse content,
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Not Syncednot so much to redefine what Fair Use is -
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Not SyncedAnd then in the academy, which I think we are speaking
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Not Syncedabout here right now.
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Not SyncedWe need to recognize in the academy, I think,
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Not Syncedan ethical obligation much stronger than the one Stallman spoke of
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Not Syncedin the context of software. An ethical obligation
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Not Syncedwhich is at the core of our mission.
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Not SyncedOur mission is universal access to knowledge.
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Not SyncedUniversal access to knowledge:
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Not Syncednot American University access to knowledge,
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Not SyncedEntailment #1 is that we need to keep this work free,
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Not SyncedIt is resisted by people who say that archiving is enough.
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Not SyncedBut that is wrong, I think.
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Not SyncedArchiving is not enough, because what it does is
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Not Syncedleave these rights out-there. And by leaving these rights our-there
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Not Syncedit encourages this architecture of closed access.
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Not SyncedIt encourages models of access that block access
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Not Syncedto the non-elite around the world.
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Not SyncedAnd it discourages unplanned, unanticipated and "uncool" innovation.
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Not SyncedThat's the thing that publishers would have said
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Not Syncedof Google Books, when Google Books had the idea
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Not Syncedto take all books published and put them on the Web.
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Not SyncedRight, publishers thought that was very uncool,
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Not Syncedbut that's exactly the kind of innovation we need to encourage,
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Not SyncedWe don't need for our work, exclusivity.
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Not SyncedAnd we should name those who do, wrong.
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Not SyncedThose who do are inconsistent with the ethic of our work.
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Not SyncedNow how do we do that? I think we do that by exercizing leadership,
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Not Syncedthat you didn't publish in the most prestigious journal
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Not Syncedif that journal is not Open Access.
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Not SyncedPeople who can begin to help redefine what access to knowledge is,
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Not Syncedby supporting Open Access and respecting Open Access
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Not Syncedand encouraging Open Access.
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Not SyncedNow, I'm really honored and happy to be able to talk about this
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Not Syncedhere, where you of course gave us the Web,
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Not Syncedand CERN has taken the lead in supporting Open Access
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Not Syncedin a crucial space of physics.
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Not SyncedAnd the work that you are doing right now will have a dramatic effect
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Not Syncedon changing the debate on science across the globe.
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Not SyncedBut what we need to do is to think about
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- Title:
- Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge
- Description:
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Lecture at CERN, Geneva, Switzerland, 18 April 2011: A new talk about open access to academic or scientific information, with a bit of commentary about YouTube Copyright School. ;
- Video Language:
- English
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