Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge
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0:00 - 0:04Lawrence Lessig: Thank you very much. It's extremely cool to be here.
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0:05 - 0:09It's just about as cool as when I spoke at Pixar.
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0:09 - 0:12I think of these two as being highlights of my career.
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0:12 - 0:15So, thank you very much for having me.
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0:17 - 0:22I have two small ideas I want to use as an introduction to an argument,
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0:23 - 0:27about the nature of access to scientific knowledge in the context of the internet,
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0:28 - 0:33and use that argument as a step towards a plea about what we should do.
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0:33 - 0:36So here is the first idea.
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0:36 - 0:39I want to call it the "White-effect".
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0:40 - 0:46And I name that after Justice Byron White, justice of the US Supreme Court,
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0:46 - 0:50appointed by John F. Kennedy - there he is in 1962
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0:51 - 0:57- famous before that as 'Whizzer' White on the Yale University football team.
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0:58 - 1:00When he was appointed to the Supreme Court, he was a famous liberal,
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1:02 - 1:07renowned liberal, the only appointee that John Kennedy had to the Supreme Court.
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1:07 - 1:15But 'Whizzer' White grew old, and he is probably most famous for an infamous opinion,
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1:16 - 1:19which he penned on behalf of the Supreme Court, Bowers v. Hardwick,
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1:19 - 1:24an opinion where the Supreme Court upheld the Criminalization of Sodomy laws,
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1:24 - 1:28with the passage: 'Against this background, to claim that a right to engage
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1:28 - 1:34in such conduct' - homosexual sodomy - 'is "deeply rooted in this Nation's history and tradition"
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1:34 - 1:39or "implicit in the concept of ordered liberty" is, at best, facetious.'
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1:40 - 1:43Now, this is what I want to think of as the "White Effect".
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1:43 - 1:51To be a liberal or a progressive is always relative to a moment, and that moment changes,
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1:51 - 1:56and too many are liberal or progressive no more.
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1:58 - 2:00So, that's the "White effect". Here is the second idea.
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2:00 - 2:05The Harvard Gazette is a kind of propaganda publication of Harvard University,
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2:05 - 2:08it talks about all the happy things at Harvard.
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2:08 - 2:13So here's an article that it wrote, about an extraordinary macro-economist,
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2:13 - 2:18Gita Gopinath, who has just come to Harvard, received tenure last year
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2:18 - 2:21and is one of the most influential macroeconomists in the United States right now.
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2:22 - 2:25This article talks about her work and her research, and at the very end,
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2:26 - 2:27there is this puzzling passage, where it says:
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2:28 - 2:33'Still, the shelves in her new office are nearly bare, since, said Gopinath,
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2:34 - 2:38"Everything I need is on the Internet now." '
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2:40 - 2:43Right, that's the second idea. Here is the argument.
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2:44 - 2:51So, copyright is a regulation by the State intended to change
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2:51 - 2:58a regulation by the market. It's an exclusive right, a monopoly right,
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2:58 - 3:01a property right granted by the State, which is necessary
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3:01 - 3:04to solve an inevitable market failure.
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3:05 - 3:10Now, by saying that it's necessary to solve an inevitable market failure,
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3:10 - 3:14I'm marking myself as a pro-copyright scholar,
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3:15 - 3:19in the sense that I believe copyright is necessary. Even in a digital age,
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3:19 - 3:24especially in a digital age, copyright is necessary to achieve
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3:25 - 3:28certain incentives that otherwise would be lost.
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3:29 - 3:34But in the internet age, what we've seen as a fight about copyright,
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3:34 - 3:39about the scope of copyright, waged most consistently in the context
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3:39 - 3:44of the battle over artists' rights, in particular, in the context of music,
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3:44 - 3:51where massive 'sharing' - sharing which is technically illegal - has lead to a fight
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3:51 - 3:56fought by artists and especially by artists' representatives.
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3:57 - 4:02And we from the Free Culture movement, have challenged the people
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4:02 - 4:05who have been waging that fight.
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4:05 - 4:09And they defend copyright in the context of that fight.
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4:09 - 4:16But if we get above the din of this battle, the important thing to keep in mind
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4:16 - 4:22is that both sides in this fight acknowledge that copyright is essential
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4:22 - 4:24for certain creative work,
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4:25 - 4:31and we need to respect copyright for that creative work.
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4:31 - 4:36We, from the Free Culture movement, need to respect copyright for that work.
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4:36 - 4:41We need to recognize that there is a place for a sensible copyright policy
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4:41 - 4:44to protect and encourage that work.
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4:46 - 4:48But, however - and here is the important distinction -
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4:50 - 4:58Not only artists rely upon copyright, copyright is also relied upon by publishers,
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4:58 - 5:00and publishers are a different animal.
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5:02 - 5:08We don't have to be as negative as John Milton was when he wrote publishers are
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5:08 - 5:11"Old patentees and monopolizers in the trade of books
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5:11 - 5:15- men who do no labor in an honest profession, to [them], learning is indebted."
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5:16 - 5:20We don't have to go quite that far to recognize why publishers are different,
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5:20 - 5:24that the economic problem for publishers is different
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5:24 - 5:28from the economic problems presented by creating.
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5:29 - 5:34So who is copyright for? The publishers or the artists?
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5:35 - 5:39Well, since the beginning of copyright in the Anglo-American tradition,
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5:39 - 5:44the Statute of Anne of 1710, there has been this argument about whether copyright
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5:44 - 5:46was intended for the publishers or the artists.
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5:47 - 5:53When the Statute of Anne was originally introduced, it gave a perpetual term of copyright,
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5:53 - 5:56which the publishers understood to be a protection for them.
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5:56 - 5:59It was then amended to give just a limited term for copyright.
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5:59 - 6:04Publishers were puzzled about that, because it wouldn't make sense to give a limited term
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6:04 - 6:05if it was the publisher that was to be protected.
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6:06 - 6:13In 1769, a court case in the context of Millar v. Taylor seemed to suggest that
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6:13 - 6:17despite the limitations of the Statute of Anne, copyright was for ever.
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6:18 - 6:25But in 1774, in a very famous case about this book, The Seasons, by James Thomson,
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6:25 - 6:30the House of Lords held that copyright protected by the Status of Anne was limited,
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6:31 - 6:35holding for the first time that works passed into a public domain.
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6:35 - 6:40And for the first time in English history, works including Shakespeare
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6:40 - 6:44passed into the public domain. And in this moment, we can say Free Culture was born.
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6:45 - 6:50And it also clarified that copyright was not intended for the publisher.
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6:50 - 6:53Even if it benefited the publishers, it was a creative right
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6:53 - 7:00and author's right. Even if benefitting publishers, copyright was for authors.
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7:02 - 7:07So, I remark these obvious borders about the scope of copyright,
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7:07 - 7:14because we tend to forget them. We've been fighting a battle in the context of copyright
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7:14 - 7:19where copyright is essential, and we are spending too little attention
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7:20 - 7:24about a battle in a context where copyright is not essential.
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7:25 - 7:31And I mean by that, in the context of science, in the context that Gopinath was speaking of
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7:31 - 7:35when she talked about everything being available on the internet.
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7:35 - 7:40And the consequence of failing to pay attention to this second context
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7:40 - 7:44within which this battle is being waged is that there is a trouble here
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7:44 - 7:45that too few see.
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7:46 - 7:48So let's think about this claim that everything is on the internet now.
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7:49 - 7:51What does that mean?
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7:52 - 7:56Here is a particular example to evaluate what that means.
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7:57 - 8:00Much of my work, these days, is focusing on corruption
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8:00 - 8:03in the context of this institution, Congress.
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8:04 - 8:07So let's say that we wanted to study, you wanted to study with me,
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8:07 - 8:13corruption in this context. Go to Google Scholar and enter a search for campaign finance.
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8:14 - 8:17Here are the top articles that would be listed from that search.
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8:18 - 8:20So let's say you wanted to browse through these articles
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8:20 - 8:26and get a sense of campaign finance and how it might be related to corruption in Congress.
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8:27 - 8:30So here are the top 10 articles. This first one, a very famous one
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8:30 - 8:33by my former colleague Pam Karlan and Sam Issacharof.
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8:34 - 8:38You would find, to get access to this article, you'd have to pay $29.95.
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8:39 - 8:43The second article, housed at JSTOR, you'd have to get through to get permission
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8:43 - 8:47from the Columbia Law Review - not quite clear how you would do that.
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8:47 - 8:52Third article, again, $29.95. The fourth article, protected by Questia,
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8:52 - 8:59we learn that you can get a 1-day free trial to all of these Oxford University Press articles,
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8:59 - 9:02you'd only have to pay when that day is over 99 dollars
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9:02 - 9:03to continue for a year.
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9:03 - 9:06Here is the 4th article again, protected by JSTOR.
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9:06 - 9:10The 5th article, it's an economics article, so the price is right on the surface:
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9:10 - 9:1210 dollars to purchase access to this article.
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9:12 - 9:15Here's the 7th article, Columbia Law Review.
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9:15 - 9:208th article, Columbia Law Review, 9th article, protected again by JSTOR,
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9:20 - 9:2810th article, $29.95. So, how accessible is this information to the general public?
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9:29 - 9:33Well, one of these you can get access to for free, at least one time only,
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9:33 - 9:40One of them you can pay $10 for. 3 of them, $29.95, and 5 of them, terms unknown,
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9:40 - 9:41protected by JSTOR.
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9:42 - 9:46So, when Gopinath says "Everything I need is on the internet",
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9:46 - 9:51what does she mean? What she means is if - and this is a big if -
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9:54 - 9:58you're a tenured professor at an elite university or we could say a professor,
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9:58 - 10:01or a student or professor in an elite university, or maybe
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10:01 - 10:06a student or professor at a US university, if you are a member of the knowledge elite,
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10:06 - 10:10then you have effectively free access to all of this information.
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10:10 - 10:14But if you are from the rest of the world? Not so much.
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10:15 - 10:17Now, the thing to recognize is we built this world,
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10:18 - 10:24we built this architecture for access, these flows from the deployment of copyright,
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10:24 - 10:31but here, copyright to benefit publishers. Not to enable authors.
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10:31 - 10:35Not one of these authors gets money from copyright.
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10:35 - 10:39Not one of them wants the distribution of their articles limited.
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10:39 - 10:44Not one of them has a business model that turns upon restricting access to their work.
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10:44 - 10:47Not one of them should support this system.
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10:47 - 10:53As a knowledge policy for the creators of this knowledge, this is crazy.
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10:54 - 10:55And the craziness doesn't stop here.
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10:57 - 11:02So, my third child, this extraordinarily beautiful girl, Samantha Tess,
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11:04 - 11:08when she was born, the doctors were worried she had a condition
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11:08 - 11:12that would suggest jaundice. I had jaundice as a baby, so I didn't think it was serious,
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11:12 - 11:18and I was told very forcefully by her doctor, this is extroardinarily serious.
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11:19 - 11:23If this condition manifest in the dangerous condition, it would produce brain damage,
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11:23 - 11:24possibly death.
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11:25 - 11:29So, of course, we were terrified. I went home and I did what every academic did - does:
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11:29 - 11:34I pulled everything I could from the web to study about what jaundice was
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11:34 - 11:39and what the conditions were. Now, because I am a Harvard professor,
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11:39 - 11:43of course, I didn't have to pay to get access to this information, but I just kept the tally.
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11:43 - 11:48To get access to the 20 articles that I wanted access to was $435,
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11:48 - 11:51for the ordinary human, not a Harvard professor. OK.
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11:51 - 11:57So I gathered these articles and set them aside, believing this problem
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11:57 - 11:59would not manifest itself in a serious way.
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12:00 - 12:06But on her third day, she fell into a stupor, and we called the doctor,
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12:06 - 12:09and the doctor was panciked and he said we had to get to the hospital immediately.
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12:10 - 12:14So, at 3 o'clock in the morning, we trundled the baby up and raced to the hospital.
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12:15 - 12:18We were sitting in the waiting room, and I brought the articles with me,
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12:18 - 12:22because I wanted something to do, to distract me from the terror
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12:22 - 12:24that my child had this condition.
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12:24 - 12:28And I picked up the first of these articles, which is actually free,
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12:28 - 12:31published on the web for free, at the American Family Physician,
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12:31 - 12:33and I started reading about this condition.
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12:34 - 12:37And I got to this table, a table that was going to describe
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12:37 - 12:44when you should worry about whether the child would have too severe of this exposure.
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12:44 - 12:46I turned the page, and this is what I found:
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12:47 - 12:51"The rightsholder did not grant rights to reproduce this item in electronic media.
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12:51 - 12:54For the missing item, see the original print version of this publication."
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12:56 - 13:00And I had this moment of liberation from fear about my child,
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13:00 - 13:04because I turned to fear about our culture. I thought, this is outrageous!
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13:04 - 13:09The idea that we are regulating access down to the chart in an article
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13:09 - 13:13that was posted for free to help, not doctors, but parents
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13:13 - 13:15understand what this condition was.
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13:15 - 13:19We are regulating access to parts of articles.
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13:20 - 13:24Now here and throughout our architecture for access,
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13:24 - 13:28we are building an infrastructure for this regulation.
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13:28 - 13:32Think about the Google Books project, which is perfecting control down to the sentence,
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13:32 - 13:35the ability to regulate access down to the sentence.
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13:36 - 13:41By the way, I alway forget to tell this: the kid is fine, she didn't have jaundice,
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13:41 - 13:44it is a complete non issue.
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13:44 - 13:48But the point is, we are architecting access here, for what purpose?
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13:48 - 13:54To maximize revenue. And why? Revenue to the artists?
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13:54 - 13:57Revenues necessary to produce the incentive to create?
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13:57 - 14:01Is this a limitation that serves any of the real objectives of copyright?
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14:02 - 14:03The answer is no.
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14:04 - 14:08It is simply the natural result of for-profit production
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14:08 - 14:12for any good that we, quote, must have.
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14:13 - 14:20As Bergstrom and McAfee describe in a really fantastic little bit of work,
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14:20 - 14:24if you compare the cost per page of for-profit publishers
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14:24 - 14:29and the cost per page of not-for-profit publishers in these different fields of science,
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14:29 - 14:34it's a 4 and a half times factor difference cost per page.
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14:34 - 14:40That is a function of different, of these having different objectives.
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14:40 - 14:43One objective is to spread knowledge: that's the not-for-profit publishers,
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14:43 - 14:48and one objective, to maximize profit: that's the for-profit publishers.
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14:49 - 14:55Now, this architecture for access is beginning to build resistance.
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14:56 - 14:58So, think about the story of JSTOR.
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14:59 - 15:02JSTOR was launched in 1995, with an extraordinary amount of funding
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15:02 - 15:08from the Mellon Foundation. That funding produced a huge archive
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15:08 - 15:14of journal articles. So that there are now more than 1200 journals, 20 collections,
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15:14 - 15:2053 disciplines, 303'000 issues, about 38 million pages in JSTOR archive.
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15:22 - 15:24When this archive was launched, everybody thought it was brilliant.
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15:25 - 15:28Everybody thought the access here was extraordinary.
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15:28 - 15:33But today? There is increasingly criticism growing out there
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15:33 - 15:36about how JSTOR makes its information accessible.
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15:36 - 15:39We could think of it as a kind of "White effect".
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15:39 - 15:44It was liberal when it was launched, but what has it become as it has grown old?
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15:45 - 15:48So, for example, here is an article published in the
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15:48 - 15:52California Historical Society Quarterly. It's 6 pages long.
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15:52 - 15:57To get it, you have to pay $20 to JSTOR, this non-profit organization,
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15:57 - 16:01leading Carl Malamud, who of course is famous for his Public Resources site,
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16:02 - 16:04to tweet in the following way: "JSTOR is morally offensive.
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16:05 - 16:09$20 for a 6-page article, unless you happen to work at a fancy school."
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16:09 - 16:13Now, you might say, "This is a really important academic archive",
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16:13 - 16:17but the question is whether this really important academic archive
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16:17 - 16:20is going to become a kind of RIAA for the academy.
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16:20 - 16:24Begging the question that the "White effect" always begs,
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16:24 - 16:28whether we could do this better under a different set of assumptions.
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16:29 - 16:34Now, of course the Open Access movement is the movement that was launched
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16:34 - 16:37to try and do this better under different circumstances.
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16:37 - 16:42Now, it has a long history, but its real push was inspired by
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16:42 - 16:46a dramatic increase in the cost of journals.
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16:47 - 16:52So, if this is a study between 1986 and 2004 by the American Research Libraries,
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16:52 - 16:58this is the increase in inflation, this is the increase in the cost of serials,
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16:58 - 17:02it's obvious that the market power of these publishers is being exploited,
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17:03 - 17:09because the purchasers of these serials have no choice but to buy them.
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17:09 - 17:15It's in part motivated by this cost concern, it's also motivated by a sense of unfairness.
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17:16 - 17:18We do all the work, they get all the money, here.
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17:19 - 17:23So the response to these two kinds of concerns has been two:
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17:23 - 17:28#1 an open access self-archiving movement, where the push has been
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17:28 - 17:31"Let's get as many things out there archived on the Web as we can,
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17:31 - 17:34pre-prints and whatever we can get up, and make sure
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17:34 - 17:39the Web can make them accessible" - and an Open Access publishing movement.
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17:39 - 17:41Now, what's the difference between these two movements?
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17:41 - 17:48The difference is licensing. Some "open" is "free", in the sense that Richard Stallman
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17:48 - 17:53made famous by his quote: "Free software is a matter of liberty, not price.
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17:53 - 17:57To understand the concept, you should think of free as in free speech,
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17:57 - 17:59not as in free beer."
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18:00 - 18:06So, some aspect of the Open Access publishing is free as in free speech,
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18:06 - 18:11some "open" is not. Some is just free as in: "You can download it freely,
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18:11 - 18:16but the rights that you get from the download are just as broad
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18:16 - 18:19as narrowly granted by some implicit copyright rule.
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18:19 - 18:27Now, "free", as in licensed freely, has been the objective that the Science Commons project,
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18:27 - 18:29which is a project that Creative Commons has been pushing,
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18:29 - 18:35and pushing as part of a broader strategy for producing
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18:35 - 18:38the information architecture that science needs, as they announce
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18:38 - 18:41in their "Principles for open science". There are four principles here.
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18:41 - 18:46The first is, there should be open access to literature, by which Science Commons says:
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18:46 - 18:49you should be on the internet, literature "should be on the internet
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18:49 - 18:53in digital form, with permission granted in advance
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18:53 - 18:57to users to read, download, copy, distribute, print, search or link
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18:57 - 19:03to the full texts of articles, crawl them indexing, pass them as data to software,
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19:03 - 19:05or use them for any other lawful purpose,
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19:05 - 19:10without financial, legal or technical barriers other than those inseparable
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19:10 - 19:12from gaining access to the internet itself."
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19:12 - 19:15That's what "free", here, means.
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19:15 - 19:18Second, access to research tools: there should be "materials necessary
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19:18 - 19:22to replicate funded research - cell lines, model animals, DNA tools,
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19:22 - 19:26reagents, and more - should be described in digital formats,
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19:26 - 19:29made available under standard terms of use or contracts,
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19:29 - 19:35with infrastructure or resources to fulfill requests to qualified scientists,
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19:35 - 19:38and with full credit provided to the scientist who created the tools."
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19:38 - 19:43#3 Data should be in the public domain. "Research data, data sets, databases,
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19:43 - 19:44and protocols should be in the public domain."
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19:44 - 19:46meaning no copyright restrictions at all.
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19:47 - 19:49And 4, Open cyber-infrastructure:
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19:49 - 19:53"Data without structure and annotation is an opportunity lost.
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19:53 - 19:57Research data should flow in an open, public and extensible infrastructure
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19:57 - 20:02that supports its recombination and reconfiguration into computer models,
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20:02 - 20:04its searchability by search engines,
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20:04 - 20:08and its use by both scientists and the taxpaying public.
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20:08 - 20:11This infrastructure is an essential public good."
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20:12 - 20:16Now, my view is, this the right way - you might think this is the left way -
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20:16 - 20:22but it's the correct way to instantiate this Open Access movement.
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20:22 - 20:26The values and the efficiency and the justice in this architecture
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20:26 - 20:30are the right values, efficiency and justice for an Open Access movement.
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20:30 - 20:34So let's call it, following Stallman, the Free Access Movement.
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20:34 - 20:37And the critical question of the Free Access movement
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20:37 - 20:41is the license that governs access to the information being provided.
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20:41 - 20:44Does the license grant freedoms?
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20:44 - 20:48And that, of course, was the motivation between the Public Library of Science -
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20:48 - 20:51every one of their articles is published under a Creative Commons
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20:51 - 20:53Attribution license, the freest license we have.
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20:54 - 21:00And that is increasingly the practice, surprisingly, of the largest publishers,
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21:00 - 21:03as described by this wonderful project housed here at CERN,
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21:03 - 21:06which is studying Open Access publishing.
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21:07 - 21:12This is the first of three stages to this project. When studying the large publishers,
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21:12 - 21:16this study concludes that "Half of the large publishers use some version
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21:16 - 21:21of a Creative Commons license. These seven publish 72% of the titles
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21:21 - 21:24and 71% of the articles investigated.
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21:24 - 21:31And of these, 82% use the freest license, cc-by, and 18% use cc-by-nc", non commercial.
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21:32 - 21:39And that of course is an excellent report on the progress of this free access movement
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21:39 - 21:40in the context of the largest publishers.
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21:40 - 21:46But what's not excellent in this story is the other publishers here.
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21:46 - 21:52For these other publishers, only 73% you can determine copyright status
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21:52 - 21:5869% transfer the copyright to the publisher. Only 21 % of the articles
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21:58 - 22:01have any Creative Commons license attached at all.
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22:02 - 22:08Now, this is because these other publishers are using copyright as a means,
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22:09 - 22:15a means to a non-knowledge ends, to a non-copyright ends.
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22:15 - 22:18So, for example, they are using it to support the societies
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22:18 - 22:21that might happen to be associated with publishing
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22:21 - 22:24that particular journal, that society that might study
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22:24 - 22:25one particular of science.
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22:25 - 22:28That society, of course, is valuable, but what they are doing
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22:28 - 22:31is using copyright to support that society.
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22:31 - 22:37And the consequence of that strategy is to block access to all but the few.
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22:37 - 22:40We don't achieve the objectives of the Enlightenment,
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22:40 - 22:44we achieve the reality of an elite-nment, the elite-nment
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22:44 - 22:48which describes the way in which we spread knowledge
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22:48 - 22:51despite the ideals of the Enlightenment.
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22:51 - 22:56And the point I'm emphasizing here is that it's for no good copyright reason.
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22:57 - 23:02Now, the slowness inside of science to embrace this more broadly,
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23:02 - 23:05especially among the smaller publishers, may surprise some,
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23:05 - 23:09or maybe it doesn't surprise. The whole design of science
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23:09 - 23:13is to be a fad-resistor, the idea is to have an infrastructure
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23:14 - 23:17that avoids fads, and tradition then becomes the metric of what's right
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23:18 - 23:19or of what's good in science.
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23:19 - 23:25But I think it's time to recognize that Free Access, as in free, as in speech access
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23:25 - 23:27is no fad.
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23:27 - 23:33And it's time to push this non fad more broadly in the context of science.
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23:34 - 23:39Now, just because I'm talking about how bad some area of science is,
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23:39 - 23:43I don't mean to suggest that the arts is good, right?
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23:43 - 23:46We have practices in the context of the arts that are just as bad, here.
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23:46 - 23:51For example, think about a recent episode around YouTube.
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23:52 - 23:55You know, we should not minimize the significance of YouTube
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23:55 - 23:57in the infrastructure of culture right now.
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23:57 - 24:00YouTube now has 43 different languages.
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24:00 - 24:03There is more uploaded in one month on Youtube
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24:04 - 24:08than was broadcast by the major networks in the United States
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24:08 - 24:11over the last 60 years.
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24:11 - 24:16Every single day, 6 new years of video gets uploaded to YouTube.
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24:16 - 24:19There are 2 billion views of YouTube every single year.
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24:19 - 24:24every single day, sorry. That's 40% increase over just the last year.
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24:24 - 24:28And I've been famously a fan of this extraordinary site
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24:28 - 24:32because I celebrate the kind of read-write creativity
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24:32 - 24:34that I think YouTube has encouraged.
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24:34 - 24:39And I got this sense of what we should think of as read-write creativity
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24:39 - 24:41when I was reading testimony at this place
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24:41 - 24:44by this man, John Philip Souza, in 1906.
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24:44 - 24:49when he was - I didn't read it in 1906 but the testimony was given in 1906 -
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24:49 - 24:52when Souza was testifying about this technology,
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24:52 - 24:56what he called "talking machines".
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24:57 - 25:00Now, Souza was not a fan of the talking machines.
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25:01 - 25:02This is what he had to say about them:
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25:03 - 25:06"These talking machines are going to ruin the artistic development
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25:07 - 25:08of music in this country.
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25:08 - 25:11When I was a boy, in front of every house in the summer evenings
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25:11 - 25:14you would find young people together singing the songs
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25:14 - 25:16of the day or the old songs.
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25:16 - 25:21Today you hear these infernal machines going night and day.
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25:22 - 25:25We will not have a vocal chord left," Souza said,
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25:25 - 25:28"The vocal chords will be eliminated by a process of evolution,
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25:28 - 25:32as was the tail of man when he came from the ape."
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25:35 - 25:36Now this is the picture I want you to focus on.
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25:37 - 25:40This picture of "young people together, singing the songs of the day
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25:40 - 25:41or the old songs".
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25:41 - 25:47This is a picture of culture. We could call it, using modern computer terminology,
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25:47 - 25:49a kind of read-write culture.
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25:49 - 25:53It's a culture where people participate in the creation and the re-creation
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25:53 - 25:55of their culture: in that sense, it's read-write.
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25:56 - 25:59And the opposite of read-write creativity, then, we should call
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25:59 - 26:04"read-only" culture. A culture where creativity is consumed
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26:04 - 26:10but the consumer is not a creator. A culture, in this sense, that's top-down,
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26:10 - 26:13where the vocal cords of the millions of ordinary potential creators
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26:13 - 26:17has been lost, and lost, because, as Souza said,
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26:17 - 26:23because of these infernal machines: technology, technology like this,
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26:23 - 26:26or technology like this, to produce a culture like this,
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26:27 - 26:31a culture which enabled efficient consumption, what we call "reading",
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26:32 - 26:37but inefficient amateur production, what we should call "writing".
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26:37 - 26:41A culture good for listening, but not a culture good for speaking,
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26:41 - 26:45a culture good for watching, a culture not good for creating.
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26:46 - 26:49Now, the first popular instantiation of the internet,
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26:49 - 26:51long after you guys gave us the World Wide Web,
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26:51 - 26:54but the first one people really paid attention to,
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26:55 - 27:00around 1997 and 1998, was a read-only internet.
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27:00 - 27:05So, Napster, which of course, built the largest music archive,
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27:05 - 27:09is still a music archive of music created by others
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27:09 - 27:13and the legal version, the iTunes Music Store, was an archive of the music
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27:13 - 27:17created by others, that you could buy for 99 cents.
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27:17 - 27:19These were technologies to enable access,
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27:19 - 27:21but access to culture created elsewhere.
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27:22 - 27:26But then, shortly in - after the turn of the century, I think,
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27:26 - 27:28the internet became fundamentally read-write.
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27:29 - 27:32People began taking, and remixing, and sharing
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27:32 - 27:36their creativity on the internet, and YouTube was the platform for that.
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27:36 - 27:41So, my favorite example, which I first saw on YouTube, is this:
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27:41 - 27:46[Read my lips by: Atmo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rhlHUTBgAMw]
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27:51 - 27:59"Bush: My love, there's only you in my life,
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28:00 - 28:04the only thing that's right.
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28:07 - 28:15Blair: My first love: you're every breath that I take,
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28:15 - 28:20you're every step I make.
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28:21 - 28:29Bush: And I, I want to share
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28:29 - 28:35Bush and Blair: all my love with you
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28:35 - 28:39Bush: No one else will do.
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28:42 - 28:44Blair: And your eyes
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28:44 - 28:46Bush: Your eyes, your eyes
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28:46 - 28:53Bush and Blair: they tell me how much you care for...
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28:53 - 28:56announcer: remember to(?) take dictation"
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28:56 - 29:00Lessig: OK. And then.more recently, I don't know if (?) many of you
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29:00 - 29:02have seen this extraordinary site ThruYou.
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29:02 - 29:05This is a site that takes content only from YouTube
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29:05 - 29:10and remixes it to produce albums and videos. And this is his latest, you know.
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29:10 - 29:12Voice: This is my mother:
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29:12 - 29:16Mother: Howdy, howdy. OK.
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29:16 - 29:20[plays a continuo on keyboard]
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29:20 - 29:22Tenesan1 [see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-J8sSXO9VWk ]
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29:22 - 29:25Tenesan1: The song I'm going to sing, I wrote, is called "Green"
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29:25 - 29:29because ... (?)
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29:30 - 29:36I'm seing beauty created on the land
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29:38 - 29:45On Earth the third day, producing all the plants
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29:45 - 29:53Mother Nature created by the most high God
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29:53 - 29:58I'm seeing beauty and it's green to me
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29:58 - 30:04[other instruments enter]
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30:04 - 30:09Spotting tranquillity, peace and restoration
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30:11 - 30:19Check all the water travelling from roots
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30:19 - 30:26Then you will see roots digging deep, building a strong foundation
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30:26 - 30:34Then finally a stem shoots through
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30:34 - 30:38I'm seeing beauty, it's green..
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30:38 - 30:42Lessig: So this is then what I think of as a platform for read-write creativity.
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30:42 - 30:45But then the second stage of this, I think is ultimately
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30:45 - 30:47much more interesting. It's the way that this platform
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30:47 - 30:49has become a platform for read-write communities,
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30:49 - 30:54which means creativity, which then gets remixed by others
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30:54 - 30:57in response to the initial read-write creativity.
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30:57 - 30:58So here is an example. This video:
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30:58 - 31:03[ "Crank That" by Soulja Boy - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sLGLum5SyKQ + Superman:] You Soulja Boy..
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31:03 - 31:07I got a new dance fo you all called the soulja boy
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31:07 - 31:10You gotta punch then crank back three times from left to right
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31:10 - 31:16Aaah!
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31:16 - 31:18Lessig: so that video inspired this video:
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31:18 - 31:33[video 2] You Soulja Boy ...
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31:33 - 31:36Lessig: which then inspired this video
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31:36 - 31:52[Video 3] Soulja Boy ...
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31:52 - 31:55Lessig: Well here is another example. I'm sure many of you remember
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31:55 - 31:56these extraordinary movies by John Hughes,
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31:56 - 31:59what we used to think of as the Brat Pack, until we knew
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31:59 - 32:01that there was a Brat Pack before these guys.
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32:01 - 32:04So this is the first bit of cultural,
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32:04 - 32:06and I think here is the second.
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32:06 - 32:10This is a music video by the band Phoenix, with their song Lisztomania:
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32:11 -[Lisztomania: Phoenix' clip]
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Not SyncedLessig: There are others, literally scores of these on the internet,
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Not SyncedThe point to recognize is that this is then what Souza was romanticizing
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Not SyncedWell, YouTube has just stepped into this battle, of whether it's legal.
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Not SyncedHey, Russell, you didn't create that video!
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Not Syncedof what copyright law is, and I think what copyright law should be.
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Not Synced[YouTube video cont.] Oh, Russell! Your reuse of the Lumpy's content is clever,
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Not SyncedIn the United States [text shown onscreen is read very fast] ...
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Not SyncedThis is crazy talk.
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Not SyncedLessig: Bingo. That's the point.
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Not SyncedHere is what I think we need to do here.
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Not Synced#2 It needs to be efficient.
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Not SyncedCopyright is a property system. It also happens to be
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Not Syncedon the basis of the harm suffered because of P2P file-sharing,
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Not SyncedBusinesses would have had more competition,
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Not Synceda system that could work to achieve the objectives of copyright
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Not SyncedWe, both in the context of business - so in the context of business,
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- Title:
- Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge
- Description:
-
Lecture at CERN, Geneva, Switzerland, 18 April 2011: A new talk about open access to academic or scientific information, with a bit of commentary about YouTube Copyright School. ;
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
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- Duration:
- 50:19
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Claude Almansi edited English subtitles for Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge | |
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Claude Almansi edited English subtitles for Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge | |
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Claude Almansi edited English subtitles for Lawrence Lessig: The Architecture of Access to Scientific Knowledge |