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Poetry in maximum security prison | Phil Kaye | TEDxFoggyBottom

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    Phil Kaye: Hi everyone.
    (Audience) Hi.
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    My name is Phil,
    and I am a spoken word poet.
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    If you are sitting wondering
    exactly what that might mean, that's OK.
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    A lot of times, people ask
    what I do for a living,
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    and if I say, "Oh, I'm a poet," they think
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    that is some sort of cute euphemism
    for "I'm filling out job applications."
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    (Laughter)
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    But that's actually not true.
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    I spend a lot of my time working
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    with schools, organizations,
    and communities,
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    performing and teaching spoken word poetry
    to people of all ages and backgrounds.
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    A lot of that work is
    through an organization
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    called project VOICE
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    that I co-direct with a wonderful friend
    and an amazing poet, Sarah Kaye.
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    So I want to start today off with a poem.
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    It's about my grandfather.
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    Today is a special day for me
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    because, even though he passed away
    a few years ago, today is his birthday.
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    The poem goes like this,
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    "My grandfather is not a strong man,
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    but he knows what it means to build.
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    In 1947, after he and my great-uncles
    returned form the Second World War,
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    they opened up an army surplus store.
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    They called it,
    'Union War Surplus Store.'
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    Their slogan, 'From the battleship
    to a hunting knife,
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    we have it, or we'll get it.'
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    My grandfather was not a strong man,
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    but he kept his word.
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    The place was half store,
    half encyclopedia;
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    packed, all the way to the ceiling,
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    with odd objects that somebody,
    somewhere, might want.
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    Steel toe boots, fire resistant overalls,
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    a Czechoslovakian dental kit from 1947.
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    Packed, all the way to the basement,
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    with people that somebody,
    somewhere else, might forget about;
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    but not here.
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    Like Richard -
    Richard who did not work there,
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    but showed up every Sunday afternoon
    in his full military uniform.
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    Never bought a goddamn thing."
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    (Laughter)
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    "But once, brought his little girl,
    held her hand, said,
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    'This is what it smelled like
    when daddy was a hero.'
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    My grandfather was not a strong man,
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    but he kept us safe.
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    We walked together in the park one night,
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    and a jagged man,
    with more tattoo than skin,
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    walked up directly
    to my grandfather and said,
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    'Hey, old man!
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    My pops used to take me
    to your store as a kid,
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    and you shook my hand once,
    like I was a man.
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    I still remember that.'
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    My grandfather's office was upstairs,
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    but he liked to work down
    on the floor, lent anybody a smile.
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    Everybody called him, 'Cheerful Al.'
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    With his big belly,
    bald head, long, gray beard,
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    little kids would see him
    and go, 'Santa Claus!'"
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    (Laughter)
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    "Six years after Union War
    Surplus Store opened its doors,
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    my grandfather had a son, my dad.
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    He is not a strong man,
    but he knows what it means to build.
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    One summer, when he was a teenager,
    he worked at the store,
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    built a door in the back;
    it's still there.
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    Forty years after Union War
    Surplus Store opened its doors,
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    my father had a son.
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    I am not a strong boy,
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    but I'm trying to learn
    what it means to build.
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    One summer, when I was a teenager,
    I worked at the store,
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    built this display that went
    all the way up to the ceiling.
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    The same ceiling where my dad
    taught me to identify things,
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    'Oh, this here? This is
    an old American bombshell.
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    You may want to hold it,
    but be careful not to hurt yourself.'
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    'Oh, her there? She is
    a young American bombshell.
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    You may want to hold her,
    but be careful not to hurt yourself.'"
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    (Laughter)
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    "Soon after my father built his door,
    he walked through it,
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    built his own half encyclopedia;
    made my grandfather very proud.
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    Soon after, I built my display,
    I ran up to my grandfather's office,
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    showed him what I had done,
    'Very good, Phil. Very good.'
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    When I asked him what to do next,
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    he handed me an old piece
    of paper, a beat-up pen.
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    When I asked him what to do with it,
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    he shrugged his shoulders and laughed,
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    and I began to build
    the only way I know how."
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    (Applause)
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
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    Thank you.
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    So that's just one example
    of spoken word poetry,
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    poetry that's meant to be performed
    as opposed to read on a piece of paper.
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    Sometimes, people ask about
    the writing process of spoken word poetry,
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    and it's not that different
    from creating something else:
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    there are drafts and revisions
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    and hopefully, a group of people
    who you trust to give you some feedback.
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    And it's a little bit
    of what I wanted to talk about today.
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    I want to rewind for a little bit.
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    It's 2006, I've just started college,
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    and I've been doing
    spoken word poetry for a few years
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    but only taught a few workshops.
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    I find out about a volunteer opportunity
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    to teach spoken word poetry
    in the local prison system.
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    A friend urges me to sign up, so I do.
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    And to be totally honest, at the time,
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    I don't really think about
    what I'm getting myself into,
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    I don't think about the nuances
    of being a privileged kid from the suburbs
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    going into a maximum security prison.
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    But some version of it dawns on me,
    driving over for my first workshop,
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    holding on to the steering wheel,
    thinking to myself,
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    "Who the hell do I think I am?
    What do I have to relate?
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    Will they take me seriously?
    What could I possibly teach these men?"
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    When I finally get into the workshop,
    the inmates come in one by one.
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    There are 16 of them.
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    We shake hands, we go around
    and introduce ourselves.
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    There is Marcus, who is here because
    he wants to write a poem to his wife
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    for their anniversary
    coming up in a few months.
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    There's Graham, who's never tried
    poetry before but likes rap
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    and is willing to give it a shot.
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    And then, there's Tim.
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    Tim leans back in his chair,
    but his shoulders are tense, eyes frowned,
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    he looks directly at me and says,
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    "My name is Tim,
    and I'm just here to listen.
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    But I'm curious, how much do they pay you
    to come in and teach us like this?"
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    I tell him the truth:
    nothing, it's volunteering.
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    And he nods his head and says, "OK."
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    Fast forward.
    It's four weeks into the workshop.
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    Guys bring in work
    about all sorts of topics.
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    Some write only about prison, the routine,
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    the waiting, the smell of their bunk bed.
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    Some guys never write about prison.
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    They write about their families,
    about their neighborhoods,
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    the curried goat at the corner store.
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    Some write about their innocence,
    some write about their guilt.
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    But anytime someone reads,
    everyone else is quiet.
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    There's a guy in the workshop named Gabe.
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    Gabe is Italian.
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    His heritage comes up
    all the time in his work,
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    his roots are important to him.
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    One time, after getting feedback,
    he looks around, and he says,
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    "You know, I've never taken advice
    from a non Italian before
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    (Laughter)
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    it turns out you guys
    are all pretty smart."
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    I see it happens slowly:
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    the walls between us start to crumble,
    we are not strangers anymore.
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    I see in week 5,
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    when the guys start to sit next to people
    they didn't know before the workshop.
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    Or week 7,
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    when they've got so much positive
    feedback for each other,
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    they've got to write it down
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    because we don't have time
    to get to all of it.
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    Or week 9,
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    when they start quoting
    each other's poems.
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    I'm still an outsider,
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    still a naive kid working in a prison
    with guys more than twice my age,
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    but I appreciate the fact
    that they share their community with me,
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    let me be just who I am
    even if for only a few hours a week.
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    It's my first experience
    being in a community of writers,
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    knowing what it's like to have
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    a group of people
    that want to make you better.
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    I learn what it feels like
    to tear some soft part of yourself,
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    give it to a group of people
    to gently mold it,
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    hand it back to you
    better than they found it.
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    It's a maximum security prison,
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    the last place I'd ever thought
    I'd learn to let my writing be vulnerable.
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    Fast forward.
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    It's week 11; not everyone in the workshop
    has brought in poetry to share.
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    Tim is the most thoughtful source
    of feedback in the classroom,
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    but hasn't brought in
    any of his own poetry.
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    I don't know whether to press him on it.
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    In workshops like this,
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    there's all kinds of reasons
    guys don't bring in work,
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    from learning disabilities
    to reading and writing issues
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    to fear of ridicule or even violence
    outside the classroom.
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    But at the end of the workshop
    on the eleventh week,
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    Tim asks if we can walk together.
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    I tell him "Sure."
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    But I realize, as soon as I say that,
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    that the only walk from the workshop
    to the exit is through the prison yard.
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    Walking through the prison yard together
    is a significant act.
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    Our friendship in the safety
    of the classroom is one thing,
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    but in the public view of the prison yard,
    it's a risk for both of us.
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    For me, there's a danger of looking
    overly friendly with the inmates,
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    something that the guards don't like
    and can even shut the workshop down over.
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    For Tim, there's a risk
    of looking like a suck-up,
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    a reputation that can have
    very real and damaging consequences
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    in the social structure of the prison.
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    But we are two workshop collaborators,
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    trading ideas,
    trying to make each other better,
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    so we open the door and begin walking
    across the prison yard,
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    in step, slowly.
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    And to my surprise, Tim asks me
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    why I haven't brought
    any of my own poems in yet.
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    (Laughter)
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    Maybe, maybe it was because I was
    inexperienced as a facilitator,
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    or maybe just a little lack
    of self-confidence,
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    but I didn't think anybody would notice.
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    I tell him that I've been stuck.
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    He tells me that he is too.
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    So we make a pact to each other
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    that the next week, we're going
    to bring in a piece for each other,
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    even if it's short,
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    even if the other person
    is the only person to see it.
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    I remember the best piece
    of writing advice I ever got,
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    which is from my ninth grade
    English teacher named Arly Parker.
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    Mr. Parker said that when you sit down
    to write the first draft
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    to not be scared but to imagine
    a head on your shoulder,
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    the head of someone who thinks
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    you are the greatest writer
    since Shakespeare,
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    and to imagine what they would say
    as they are reading your writing.
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    For me, that person is my mom.
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    God bless her, I could draw
    an ugly stick figure on a dirty napkin,
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    and she would say,
    "This is the next big thing."
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    (Laughter)
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    What Mr. Parker was teaching me to do
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    was listen to that voice
    in my head that says yes
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    to all my crazy ideas, to all our risks.
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    And then Mr. Parker said,
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    "When you sit down to revise,
    to write your second draft,
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    you have to imagine
    another head on your shoulder
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    of someone you respect,
    but who can give you critical feedback."
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    For me, it was another English teacher
    named Mr. Clemson.
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    Mr. Clemson and I
    had a great relationship,
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    but he was tough on me.
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    As I read through the piece,
    I could hear him going,
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    "This part doesn't make any sense."
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    "What are you trying to say here?"
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    "This line is not nearly
    as funny as you think it is."
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    And with that, Mr. Parker taught me
    to take risks in my first draft
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    and see which of those risks
    actually paid off in the second.
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    The following week,
    at the beginning of the workshop,
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    Tim slid me a piece of paper.
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    I slid him one too.
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    And the next week,
    he slid me two pieces of paper.
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    And the week after that,
    he shared it out loud.
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    And the week after that, so did I.
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    Fast forward.
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    It's the final week of the workshop.
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    Everyone has brought in all the pieces
    they worked on over the semester.
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    I see a room full of smiling men,
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    each with a small stack
    of wrinkled paper in front of them.
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    Tim's stack is a little higher than most.
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    And we go around the room, trading poems,
    pulling away our breastplates,
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    letting the others peer in.
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    And I realize,
    halfway through the workshop,
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    that for most of these poems,
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    that will be the only time
    they are shared aloud.
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    And I realize also that, up to that point,
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    I had only written poems to share,
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    for people to say "Good job,"
    for YouTube hits,
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    for a room full of applauding hands.
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    They were not writing for recognition,
    they were writing for the sake of writing,
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    to figure things out,
    for the promise of self-discovery.
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    Tim volunteers to read a poem.
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    It's about paper,
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    about how wonderful it is,
    in a place like prison,
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    to have a space where you can see
    your own thoughts,
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    hold them in your hand.
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    We share poems about all sorts of things.
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    There's a poem about
    learning how to whistle,
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    a poem about first kisses,
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    a poem about the joys
    of a good, long, well-timed fart.
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    (Laughter)
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    We share the dusty corners of ourselves,
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    the parts no one asks about,
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    the things that don't show up
    on a police record or an artist bio.
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    For that moment,
    we are 17 men sharing poetry,
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    not defined by our age or our past
    but the four walls around us.
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    Last year, I traveled
    thousands of miles sharing poetry,
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    but some of the most
    talented artists I know
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    rarely leave a prison cell.
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    It's something I do not forget,
    an unfair reality I carry with me.
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    At the end of the last workshop,
    Tim asks if we can walk together.
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    I tell him "Sure."
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    We open the door
    and walk across the prison yard.
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    Tim asks whether I will remember him.
    I tell him "Of course."
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    He says, "Well, kick some ass
    out there. For us."
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    And I tell him, "I will try."
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    And with that, I wanted to end
    with one last poem,
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    a poem I started working on
    when I was working in the prisons.
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    Thank you all for being here,
    thank you all for listening,
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    it's been a real, real honor.
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    "My mother taught me this trick,
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    if you repeat something
    over and over again,
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    it loses its meaning.
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    For example: homework,
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    homework, homework, homework, homework,
    homework, homework, homework, homework.
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    See? Nothing.
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    'Our lives,' she said, 'are the same way.'
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    If you watch the sunset too often,
    it just becomes six pm.
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    You make the same mistake over and over,
    you'll stop calling it a mistake.
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    If you just wake up, wake up, wake up,
    wake up, wake up, wake up,
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    one day you'll forget why.
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    'Nothing is forever, ' she said.
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    My parents left each other
    when I was seven years old.
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    Before their last argument,
    they sent me off to the neighbor's house,
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    like some astronaut
    kicked out of the shuttle.
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    When I came back,
    there was no gravity in our home.
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    I imagined it as an accident.
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    But when I left,
    they whispered to each other,
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    'I love you.'
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    So many times over
    that they forgot what it meant.
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    Family, family, family, family,
    family, family, family.
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    My mother taught me this trick.
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    If you repeat something over
    and over again, it loses its meaning.
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    This became my favorite game.
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    It made the sting of words evaporate.
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    Separation, separation, separation.
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    See? Nothing.
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    Apart, apart, apart, apart.
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    See? Nothing.
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    I'm an injured handy man now.
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    I work with words all day. Shut up.
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    I know the irony.
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    When I was young, I was taught
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    that the trick to dominating language
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    was breaking it down,
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    convincing it that it was worthless.
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    I love you, I love you, I love you,
    I love you, I love you, I love you.
  • 17:05 - 17:07
    See? Nothing.
  • 17:08 - 17:12
    Soon after my parents' divorce,
    I developed a stutter.
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    Fate is a cruel and efficient tutor.
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    There is no escape in stutter.
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    You can feel the meaning of every word
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    drag itself up your throat.
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    S-s-s-ss-ss-separation.
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    Stutter is a cage made of mirrors.
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    Every 'What did you say?',
    every 'Just take your time, '
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    every 'Come on, kid. Spit it out!'
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    is a glaring reflection
    of an existence you cannot escape.
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    Every awful moment trips
    over its own announcement
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    again and again and again
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    until it just hangs there
    in the center of the room
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    as if what you had to say
    had no gravity at all.
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    Mom, Dad, I'm not wasteful
    of my words any more.
  • 17:58 - 18:03
    Even now, after hundreds of hours
    practicing away my stutter,
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    I still feel the claw of meaning
    in the bottom of my throat.
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    Listen to me.
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    I've heard that even in space
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    you can hear the scratch
    of an I-I-I-I-I-I-I love you."
  • 18:19 - 18:20
    Thank you all very much.
  • 18:20 - 18:22
    (Applause)
Title:
Poetry in maximum security prison | Phil Kaye | TEDxFoggyBottom
Description:

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

With his remarkable talent of storytelling and two captivating poems, Phil shares his journey and experience of creating poetry with inmates in maximum security prison.

Phil Kaye is a touring spoken word poet and co-director of Project VOICE. He has traveled all over the world performing his work and teaching hands-on workshops. He has appeared on NPR, performed at Lincoln Center, and is the two-time recipient of the National College Poetry Slam award for "Pushing the art forward," given for outstanding innovation in the art of performance poetry -- the only person to receive the award twice. Phil is a graduate of Brown University, where he was the former head coordinator of "Space in Prisons for the Arts and Creative Expression" (SPACE) and taught weekly poetry workshops in maximum-security prisons. His book, "A light bulb symphony," was released in 2011, and his work can be found regularly in CHAOS Magazine.

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Video Language:
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Duration:
18:30
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