The dark side of free will | Gregg Caruso | TEDxChemungRiver
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0:10 - 0:14I have been thinking a lot lately
about the following question: -
0:14 - 0:17what would happen
if we came to disbelieve in free will? -
0:17 - 0:20What would this mean
for our interpersonal relationships, -
0:20 - 0:22society, morality, meaning in the law?
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0:22 - 0:26For example, would giving up the belief
in free will have dire consequences -
0:26 - 0:28for society or something?
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0:28 - 0:30Or would it rather have
a humanizing effect -
0:30 - 0:32on our practices and polices,
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0:32 - 0:35freeing us from the negative effects
of belief in free will? -
0:35 - 0:37What I would like to propose today
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0:37 - 0:40is that the belief in free will
rather than being a good thing -
0:40 - 0:43actually has a dark side
and that we'd be better off without it. -
0:43 - 0:45I know this is counterintuitive.
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0:45 - 0:48Many people fear that life
without free will lead to nihilism, -
0:48 - 0:51there'd be no reason to go on,
or that it would undermine morality. -
0:51 - 0:54Or that we will just let
criminals run free -
0:54 - 0:57since there'd be no moral responsibility.
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0:57 - 0:59But I would like to paint
a different picture for you today. -
0:59 - 1:02It begins with the idea
of free will skepticism. -
1:02 - 1:05So I am a free will skeptic.
I deny the existence of free will. -
1:05 - 1:08Free will skeptics maintain
that who we are, what we do, -
1:08 - 1:11is ultimately the result of factors
beyond our control, -
1:11 - 1:13and because of this,
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1:13 - 1:16we are never morally responsible for
our actions in the basic desert sense -
1:16 - 1:21that is the sense that would make us
truly deserving of praise and blame. -
1:21 - 1:25Historically, there have been a number
of philosophical and scientific arguments -
1:25 - 1:26for free will skepticism,
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1:26 - 1:29and I've promoted
these arguments in my own work, -
1:29 - 1:32but I'm not here today to try
to convince you that you lack free will. -
1:32 - 1:34It's not my goal.
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1:34 - 1:37I'm actually interested
in a slightly different question: -
1:37 - 1:39what would happen if we came
to accept this perspective? -
1:39 - 1:43What would happen, practically speaking,
if we came to disbelieve in free will? -
1:43 - 1:46Would it be, on the whole,
a good thing or a bad thing? -
1:46 - 1:48And it's here that I'm an optimist.
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1:48 - 1:51I am optimistic about the prospects
of life without free will. -
1:51 - 1:53I call myself an optimistic skeptic.
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1:53 - 1:56As an optimistic skeptic,
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1:56 - 1:58I maintain that life without free will
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1:58 - 2:00is not only possible
but that it's preferable. -
2:00 - 2:02Prospects of finding meaning in life
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2:02 - 2:05and sustaining good interpersonal
relationships, for example, -
2:05 - 2:06would not be threatened.
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2:06 - 2:08Although certain systems of punishment
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2:08 - 2:11like those based on the model
of retribution or just deserts -
2:11 - 2:12would be ruled out;
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2:12 - 2:16preventive detention and rehabilitation
programs would still be justified. -
2:16 - 2:18I will say a little bit more
about these in a moment. -
2:18 - 2:20So as an optimistic skeptic,
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2:20 - 2:25I maintain that life without free will
may actually be good for our well being, -
2:25 - 2:26and our relationships with others,
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2:26 - 2:30since it could tend to eradicate
an often destructive form of moral anger, -
2:30 - 2:31a kind of moral anger
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2:31 - 2:35that's corrosive to our relationships
and to our social policies. -
2:35 - 2:39So to better understand
the dark side of free will, -
2:39 - 2:41what I want to do is just talk about
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2:41 - 2:44some recent empirical work
in moral political physiology. -
2:44 - 2:47What this work has done has actually shown
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2:47 - 2:51that there is a number of interesting
and potentially troubling correlations -
2:51 - 2:52between the belief in free will
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2:52 - 2:55and people's other moral religious
and political beliefs. -
2:55 - 2:58In particular, what they found is
that free will beliefs are correlated -
2:58 - 3:02with higher levels
of religiosity, punitiveness, -
3:02 - 3:04and a number of conservative
beliefs in attitude, -
3:04 - 3:07such as just world belief
and right wing authoritarianism. -
3:07 - 3:09I am only going to focus on
two of these today, -
3:09 - 3:13that is the connection between the belief
in free will and punitiveness, -
3:13 - 3:16and that between the belief in free will
and what's called just world belief. -
3:16 - 3:19So we take punitiveness for example.
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3:19 - 3:22What this research has shown is
that where believe in free will is strong, -
3:22 - 3:24as we see increased punitiveness,
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3:24 - 3:27that is people are more likely to call
for harsher forms of punishment -
3:27 - 3:29in a number of different scenarios.
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3:29 - 3:32And this makes sense:
if you think people possess free will, -
3:32 - 3:36then you believe they justly deserve to
be praised and blamed for their actions. -
3:36 - 3:40if they engage in an immoral act, you want
to see them get their just deserts, right? -
3:40 - 3:42It's very close
to a notion of retribution: -
3:42 - 3:46you want to inflict harm on them
for the harm they've inflicted on others. -
3:46 - 3:49But the downside of this is, again,
you can create a moral anger -
3:49 - 3:53that's destructive to our relationships
with others and to our social policies. -
3:53 - 3:56So consider this on a macro level,
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3:56 - 4:00belief in free will is relatively strong
in the United States. -
4:00 - 4:02In fact, it's built right
into the mythology -
4:02 - 4:05of the rugged individual,
the self-made man, the causa Sui, -
4:05 - 4:08the person that can pull themselves up
from the bootstraps -
4:08 - 4:10and overcome all
of their life circumstances. -
4:10 - 4:12But because we are
so committed to this belief, -
4:12 - 4:15we are also a relatively punitive society.
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4:15 - 4:17Consider this one simple fact:
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4:17 - 4:20the United States makes up about 5%
of the world's population, -
4:20 - 4:24yet it incarcerates
25% of the world's prisoners. -
4:24 - 4:27I will say that again
because it's a rather startling statistic: -
4:27 - 4:30we make up a relatively small sliver
of the world's population, about 5%, -
4:30 - 4:34but we house and imprison
25% of the world's prisoners. -
4:34 - 4:38I don't think it's controversial to say
our criminal justice system is broken. -
4:38 - 4:42It is not working, not making us safer,
it's not reducing crime, -
4:42 - 4:44it's, by no means, achieving
our desired social goals, -
4:44 - 4:48and it is not reducing the rate
of recidivism, that is repeat crime. -
4:48 - 4:51But just perhaps, if we adopt
the skeptical perspective, -
4:51 - 4:56we might be able to adopt more effective,
and more humane policies. -
4:56 - 4:58So let me just briefly sketch quickly
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4:58 - 5:01how a free will skeptic
might address criminal behavior. -
5:01 - 5:04There's a professor
- not too far from here, -
5:04 - 5:06his name is Derek Pereboom,
he teaches at Cornell University; -
5:06 - 5:08he's a free will skeptic, like myself -
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5:08 - 5:11and he proposes a model
for dealing with dangerous criminals -
5:11 - 5:14based on analogy with quarantine.
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5:14 - 5:18So people who contract contagious diseases
do so for no fault of their own, -
5:18 - 5:21they're not morally responsible
for having done so; -
5:21 - 5:23we don't think they
deserve to be punished. -
5:23 - 5:24But we do feel justified
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5:24 - 5:27in quarantining those individuals
for the safety of society. -
5:27 - 5:30Well, we can say the same thing
for dangerous criminals -
5:30 - 5:33that is even you adopted
the perspective that I am advocating, -
5:33 - 5:36and you believe that individuals
are not ultimately responsible -
5:36 - 5:37for becoming who they are,
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5:37 - 5:41we could still justify detaining those
individuals for the safety of society. -
5:41 - 5:44But if we did this, this would entail
a number of major reforms, -
5:44 - 5:48all of which I think are actually
really important and good. -
5:48 - 5:49For one, we'd have the duty
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5:49 - 5:52to the well-being
and rehabilitation of criminals, -
5:52 - 5:54just like you would have a duty
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5:54 - 5:56to treat the person
in quarantine for their disease. -
5:56 - 5:59Secondly,
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6:03 - 6:06you couldn't treat those individuals
cruelly while being detained, -
6:06 - 6:10just like you couldn't treat cruelly
the people we are holding in quarantine. -
6:10 - 6:13Thirdly, if there are less severe
forms of punishment available, -
6:13 - 6:16we'd have to opt for
those less severe forms of punishment -
6:16 - 6:19and that might entail rethinking
some of our harsher sentencing laws, -
6:19 - 6:23and some of our crueler forms
of punishment in super max prisons. -
6:23 - 6:24And lastly,
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6:24 - 6:27if you are someone like myself,
you think it's the causal circumstances -
6:27 - 6:29that drive these behaviors
in the first place, -
6:29 - 6:33then free will skeptics would put
their money, resources and focus -
6:33 - 6:35on addressing the systemic causes
that lead to criminality: -
6:35 - 6:37wealth, inequality, educational inequity.
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6:37 - 6:40So instead of blaming people
and punishing them, -
6:40 - 6:43on the tail-end, you'd try to prevent
the criminal behavior in the first place. -
6:43 - 6:45(Applause)
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6:45 - 6:46Thank you.
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6:46 - 6:51Not only do I think free will skeptics can
deal successfully with criminal behaviors, -
6:51 - 6:53I think they could do so
more humanely and more effectively. -
6:53 - 6:56So let me switch over
to the other belief I mentioned: -
6:56 - 6:59belief in free will has also been shown
through this research -
6:59 - 7:01to correlate with what is known
as just world belief. -
7:01 - 7:03So what is it?
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7:03 - 7:05Fundamentally, it is the belief
that the world is just, -
7:05 - 7:09good things happen to good people,
and bad things happen to bad people. -
7:09 - 7:12But also, fundamentally,
it's a blame-the-victim approach -
7:12 - 7:15since it maintains that individuals
justly deserve what they get, -
7:15 - 7:19and that those who meet misfortune
have often brought it them on themselves. -
7:19 - 7:24In the 1960s, psychologists developed
what is known as just world belief scale. -
7:24 - 7:27It was meant to design people's commitment
to this type of belief, -
7:27 - 7:31but it was also particularly designed to
capture the natural tendency people have -
7:31 - 7:34to blame those who meet misfortune
for their own circumstances. -
7:34 - 7:39Over the years, what they found
is that high scores on this belief, -
7:39 - 7:42correlate with the likelihood
of derogating innocent victims, -
7:42 - 7:45trusting current institutions
and authorities, -
7:45 - 7:48and blaming the poor and praising
the rich for their respective faiths. -
7:48 - 7:51As I said, this is essentially
a blame-the-victim approach; -
7:51 - 7:54you can see manifestations
of it all throughout society. -
7:54 - 7:55One of the more pernicious
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7:55 - 7:58is the tendency, both among
ordinary folk and the legal system, -
7:58 - 8:01to blame rape victims
for their own circumstances. -
8:01 - 8:02So if the world is just,
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8:02 - 8:06and good things happen to good people,
and bad things happen to bad people, -
8:06 - 8:08to try to reconcile
such a horrific act as rape -
8:08 - 8:11while preserving the belief
that the world is just, -
8:11 - 8:14you turn that innocent victim
into somebody that's guilty. -
8:14 - 8:15They were dressed provocatively,
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8:15 - 8:18they were walking
where they shouldn't had been walking. -
8:18 - 8:21Another manifestation
of this blame-the-victim approach -
8:21 - 8:22could be seen throughout society.
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8:22 - 8:25For example, blaming those in poverty
for their own circumstances. -
8:25 - 8:28Claiming that those on welfare
are lazy or mooches. -
8:28 - 8:31Or blaming educational inequity on
the children and the parents themselves. -
8:31 - 8:35But we all know, at least on a more
rational deliberate moment, -
8:35 - 8:36that the world is not just,
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8:36 - 8:39and that the lottery of life
is not always fair. -
8:39 - 8:42We need to acknowledge the role
that luck plays in our lives, -
8:42 - 8:44who we are, and how we turn out, right?
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8:44 - 8:47We don't all have equal starting points.
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8:47 - 8:49As I said in the beginning,
I'm an optimist, -
8:49 - 8:53I am optimistic that if we could adopt
this skeptical perspective, -
8:53 - 8:54we may be able to free ourselves
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8:54 - 8:57from some of these beliefs
and harmful tendencies. -
8:57 - 8:59In fact, there was
a recent study that came out -
8:59 - 9:01in the Journal of Psychological Science
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9:01 - 9:04that found that by reducing
people's beliefs in free will, -
9:04 - 9:05it actually made them less punitive,
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9:05 - 9:09and call for less harsh forms of treatment
in a number of hypothetical scenarios. -
9:09 - 9:13This tells me two things: one,
it reaffirms what I was saying earlier, -
9:13 - 9:16that where believe in free will is strong
as we see increased punitiveness, -
9:16 - 9:18but it also provides hopes to me
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9:18 - 9:22that we can perhaps relinquish ourselves
on some of these more harmful beliefs -
9:22 - 9:25and by doing so, loose some
of that moral anger I've been discussing. -
9:25 - 9:27So my proposal is rather simple.
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9:27 - 9:30Let's not fear free will skepticism.
Let's embrace it. -
9:30 - 9:33Let's give up the belief
in free will, and with it, -
9:33 - 9:37the pernicious belief in just-deserts,
that people justly deserve what they get. -
9:37 - 9:39Let's leave this adequate notion behind,
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9:39 - 9:41lose our moral anger
and stop blaming the victim. -
9:41 - 9:44Instead, let's turn our attention
to the difficult task -
9:44 - 9:46of addressing the causes that lead
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9:46 - 9:50to criminality, to wealth inequity,
and educational inequity. -
9:50 - 9:53Once we relinquish the belief
in free will, this will allow us -
9:53 - 9:56to look more clearly at the causes
and more deeply at the systems -
9:56 - 9:58that shape individuals and their behavior,
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9:58 - 10:01and this will allow us to adopt
more humane and more effective policies -
10:01 - 10:04in education, criminal justice,
and social policies. -
10:04 - 10:05Thank you very much.
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10:05 - 10:06(Applause)
- Title:
- The dark side of free will | Gregg Caruso | TEDxChemungRiver
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
What would happen if we all believed free will didn't exist? As a free will skeptic, Dr. Gregg Caruso contends our society would be better off believing there is no such thing as free will.
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