Making sex normal | Debby Herbenick | TEDxBloomington
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0:14 - 0:19These days I work
as a sex researcher and educator. -
0:19 - 0:22But when I first accepted a job, in 1999,
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0:22 - 0:26at the Kinsey Institute for Research
in Sex, Gender, and Reproduction, -
0:26 - 0:32I was really nervous to tell my family
that I would be working in sex research. -
0:32 - 0:37I was particularly nervous
to tell my grandmother. -
0:37 - 0:42My grandparents lived around the corner
from my family and I growing up, -
0:42 - 0:44and I was really close with them.
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0:44 - 0:47And they were loving
and kind, and generous people, -
0:47 - 0:51and also very Catholic,
and very traditional, -
0:51 - 0:54and people who didn't talk about sex.
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0:54 - 0:56But when I went to Boston
to visit my grandmother, -
0:56 - 0:59and I told her about the job
that I was taking, -
0:59 - 1:02she surprised me by saying
that she was proud of me -
1:02 - 1:06and that she thought
it was really important work to be doing. -
1:06 - 1:08This was not the grandmother that I knew.
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1:08 - 1:12But then she told me a story
that helped me to understand. -
1:12 - 1:16This is my grandmother
and my mom as a young girl. -
1:16 - 1:17My grammy told me
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1:17 - 1:21that she and my grandfather had tried
for years to become pregnant, -
1:21 - 1:24and when they finally did it
was a dream come true for them. -
1:24 - 1:26Until she went into labor.
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1:26 - 1:31It was only in the midst of labor
that she learned for the first time -
1:31 - 1:35that her baby would be delivered
not through her stomach, -
1:35 - 1:39which is how she thought babies
left the body, but through her vagina. -
1:39 - 1:43Although she didn't use the word vagina
when she told me this story. -
1:43 - 1:48So this was an awful
and frightening birth experience, -
1:48 - 1:49that really should have been wonderful,
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1:49 - 1:52and something that they had
looked forward to for years. -
1:52 - 1:56In case you're wondering how it could
get to that point, because I was : -
1:56 - 2:01her mom had died when she was a teenager,
she wasn't around to tell her about birth. -
2:01 - 2:05I have no idea why her doctor
didn't give her that information. -
2:05 - 2:09Except maybe this was, you know,
I mean, it was before Kinsey's time, -
2:09 - 2:12that was before the sexual revolution,
these things weren't talked about... -
2:12 - 2:17But as a result, she thought that Kinsey's
pioneering work in sex and reproduction -
2:17 - 2:19was so valuable.
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2:19 - 2:22That's why she thought it was great
that I was working there. -
2:22 - 2:25Now she tried to do better
with her daughter, my mom, -
2:25 - 2:28by giving her more information
about pregnancy and childbirth. -
2:28 - 2:32But still, they were uncomfortable
talking about sex and bodies. -
2:32 - 2:34That was the home my mom was raised in,
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2:34 - 2:37so that's still how my mom felt
about those things. -
2:37 - 2:40And when it came time for me
to be in fifth grade, -
2:40 - 2:42and my class was shown
a video about puberty, -
2:42 - 2:45that I'm sure many of you have seen too,
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2:45 - 2:48she asked me in the car
on the way to dance class -
2:48 - 2:50"Did they show you the video in school?"
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2:50 - 2:51And I said "Yes."
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2:51 - 2:54And she said "Do you have any questions?"
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2:54 - 2:55And I said "No."
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2:55 - 2:59And that was our only conversation.
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2:59 - 3:03Now, two years later,
I got my period for the first time. -
3:03 - 3:07I was with my grandparents,
I didn't want to tell them, -
3:07 - 3:10So I had to call my mom
because I needed help. -
3:10 - 3:12When she came home from work,
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3:12 - 3:15she came back with a brown,
paper grocery store bag -
3:15 - 3:19and handed it to me, and said
"Here, I have the things you need." -
3:19 - 3:23And inside the bag were pads.
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3:23 - 3:27The whole experience was so embarrassing
and painful for me, -
3:27 - 3:31that months later, when I ran out,
I needed more. -
3:31 - 3:34I just was not going to approach
that conversation with her again, -
3:34 - 3:38but I didn't know where to get any,
and I wanted to try tampons anyway, -
3:38 - 3:41'cause I swam all the time,
and I didn't want to talk to her about it. -
3:41 - 3:43So I figured, well, I have a bike...
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3:43 - 3:46Now, I wasn't allowed
to leave the neighborhood, -
3:46 - 3:49I mean, we lived in the suburbs,
far away from any stores. -
3:49 - 3:52I only was supposed to be driving,
like a block or two on my bike -
3:52 - 3:53to my friends' houses.
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3:53 - 3:55We were point A at my house,
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3:55 - 3:59the farthest I'd ever ridden
on my bike alone was point B, -
3:59 - 4:01one mile away to a friends' house.
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4:01 - 4:03But I thought about it for a while,
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4:03 - 4:06and I figured out
that there was this store in South Miami, -
4:06 - 4:09that's where the tampons were!
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4:09 - 4:10(Laughter)
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4:10 - 4:15So one day when I got enough nerve,
and figured no one was gonna miss me -
4:15 - 4:17for a little while, I got on my bike
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4:17 - 4:22and I pedaled what ended up being
five miles following this route. -
4:22 - 4:26It's fairly straight, but it actually
crosses a lot of busy streets. -
4:26 - 4:28And I was really worried
about getting caught, -
4:28 - 4:29but I got the tampons,
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4:29 - 4:33put the plastic bag on my handlebars,
and rode back the five miles, -
4:33 - 4:36and never told anyone ever.
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4:36 - 4:38My mom will find out
when she hears this talk. -
4:38 - 4:39(Laughter)
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4:41 - 4:45Now a culture in which 13-year-old girls
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4:45 - 4:47end up riding their bikes
disobeying their parents, -
4:47 - 4:49which I hardly every did,
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4:49 - 4:52you know, all because this is
so uncomfortable for them, -
4:52 - 4:56it's not the only bad outcome
of a society that doesn't talk about sex. -
4:56 - 5:03When sex is treated as abnormal,
doctors and patients don't talk about sex. -
5:03 - 5:07It's not unusual for cancer patients
in my line of work -
5:07 - 5:11to tell me that they've had 50 or 100
or more medical appointments, -
5:11 - 5:13including for pelvic radiation,
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5:13 - 5:16and never once had a health care provider
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5:16 - 5:19mention the serious
sexual side effects to them. -
5:19 - 5:21When sex is treated as abnormal,
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5:21 - 5:23we don't talk about it
or teach about it in schools. -
5:23 - 5:26And when the CDC maps
sexually transmissible infections, -
5:26 - 5:29it's perhaps not surprising,
that they tend to cluster -
5:29 - 5:33in areas of the country
known for lack of sex education. -
5:33 - 5:37Notice the dark areas
for chlamydia in the US, -
5:37 - 5:40gonorrhea in the US,
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5:40 - 5:42and HIV in the US.
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5:42 - 5:46When we don't talk about sex
and it's treated as abnormal, -
5:46 - 5:50people sometimes say inaccurate
or insensitive things. -
5:50 - 5:54The 2012 election season
was particularly painful for me -
5:54 - 5:59to hear phrases like "legitimate rape",
"rape shutdown mechanisms" -
5:59 - 6:03and the quote
"Some girls, they rape so easy." -
6:03 - 6:06When sex is treated as abnormal,
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6:06 - 6:10we don't even know what's true about sex,
because we're not talking about it. -
6:10 - 6:13A few years ago our research team found
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6:13 - 6:16that 30% of women in the United States
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6:16 - 6:19reported some degree of pain
when they had sex. -
6:19 - 6:25The editor of one of the most respected
newspapers in the country refused -
6:25 - 6:27to let her writer cover this story,
because, she said: -
6:27 - 6:31"If that was true, we would know
because women would be talking about this" -
6:31 - 6:36But, you know, women don't even talk much
about sex that feels good, -
6:36 - 6:39let alone, sex that feels painful.
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6:39 - 6:42So I think the way that we talk about sex,
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6:42 - 6:46and the way that we don't talk about sex
in this country is severely broken. -
6:46 - 6:50I also think that the way
we're expecting it to change is broken. -
6:50 - 6:55If we sit around waiting for politicians,
and school systems, -
6:55 - 6:58and parents to change this for us,
we're gonna be waiting for a long time, -
6:58 - 7:03because most of these people never got
much training in sexuality education, -
7:03 - 7:06or comfort in their homes themselves.
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7:06 - 7:08So my idea is a fairly simple one.
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7:08 - 7:11But it's gonna take
a commitment for a lot of us -
7:11 - 7:15to sort of put this into practice,
take a deep breath and do it civical, -
7:15 - 7:18which is just to make sex normal.
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7:18 - 7:21So concrete ways you can do this:
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7:21 - 7:24Openly read sex books.
Not on your digital devices. -
7:24 - 7:27On planes, on subways.
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7:27 - 7:31I've been doing this for years,
it's an amazing conversation starter. -
7:31 - 7:33(Laughter)
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7:33 - 7:38Get sex-positive books for kids
and donate them to schools and libraries. -
7:38 - 7:42Celebrate sexual diversity by going
to sex-positive art events, -
7:42 - 7:45walking in or hanging out
at Gay Pride parades, -
7:45 - 7:48going to marriage equality celebrations,
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7:48 - 7:51like the one that recently occurred
on this stage in Bloomington. -
7:51 - 7:53(Applause)
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7:55 - 7:57You can watch a movie.
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7:57 - 8:01A movie that shows realistic views of sex,
nuanced views of sex, -
8:01 - 8:03documentaries like Orgasm Inc.
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8:03 - 8:07Talk about sex with a doctor or a nurse,
with your kids, with your parents. -
8:07 - 8:09If you've got a partner,
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8:09 - 8:14start by saying something that you like
or miss about your sex life together. -
8:14 - 8:15Find a sex-positive video,
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8:15 - 8:18TED actually has several,
including this orgasm talk, -
8:18 - 8:20and post it on your Facebook wall.
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8:20 - 8:23I guarantee you, you'll get the likes
you've always wanted. -
8:23 - 8:24(Laughter)
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8:25 - 8:27You can also go more public.
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8:27 - 8:30A few years ago a colleague and I
were in Vegas, -
8:30 - 8:33and she dressed as a giant homemade vulva,
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8:33 - 8:38and I walked around with her
and interviewed women and men of all ages, -
8:38 - 8:39asking what they thought she was.
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8:39 - 8:42A few guessed Star Trek,
but a lot got it right. -
8:42 - 8:43(Laughter)
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8:43 - 8:46And I know this isn't for everybody,
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8:46 - 8:49but you can also just wear
sex-positive T-shirts. -
8:49 - 8:50These are some of the ones I have.
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8:50 - 8:53Wear them out, wear them to the gym
and the grocery store. -
8:53 - 8:55If you don't have something like that,
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8:55 - 8:58you can wear
an "ovary ova-achiever" button -
8:58 - 9:00or a "testicle having a ball" button.
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9:00 - 9:04They will be in the lobby at the end
of the day, that you can pick up. -
9:04 - 9:07I have gifts for all of you.
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9:07 - 9:10You can also get your doctors and nurses
to change the waiting room. -
9:10 - 9:13They often say that they're asked
sex questions that they can't answer, -
9:13 - 9:15or don't have the time to answer.
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9:15 - 9:18I say add some good quality
sex books to the waiting room. -
9:18 - 9:22Change the posters in the bathroom
away from botox and vein treatments, -
9:22 - 9:26to a "Grab Your Gonads"
testicular self-exam poster, -
9:26 - 9:31or a poster celebrating
the diversity of women's genitals. -
9:31 - 9:32Make space for sex.
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9:32 - 9:36Here I started the Bloomington Sex Salon
that brings sex researchers -
9:36 - 9:39into the community, into bars and cafes.
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9:39 - 9:42A local restaurant sometimes gets cheeky
with their menu items, -
9:42 - 9:47including the French Tickler.
That's from FARM. -
9:47 - 9:53Support the sex arts. From left to right,
is my Etsy-bought uterus-doll, -
9:53 - 9:56vulva lapel pins
from a local handmade market, -
9:56 - 9:58a clay vulva man that a student made,
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9:58 - 10:03and a sperm-shaped salt shaker
that I picked up in Argentina. -
10:03 - 10:05Put it on the Thanksgiving table.
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10:05 - 10:09And finally, embrace real sex and bodies.
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10:09 - 10:14Check out Cindy Gallop's "Make Love,
Not Porn" website and TED talk, -
10:14 - 10:16watch shows like Lena Dunham's Girls,
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10:16 - 10:21and check out makesexnormal.tumblr.com —
the new site launched this week -
10:21 - 10:26that encourages people to send in photos
showing what they do to make sex normal. -
10:26 - 10:30Now recently our research team
asked people what they like about sex. -
10:30 - 10:31A man said:
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10:31 - 10:36"It's a very pleasant habit we started 40
years ago. It makes the marriage better." -
10:36 - 10:38(Laughter)
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10:38 - 10:42A woman said "Feeling completely loved,
like I was the only person in the world -
10:42 - 10:44he wanted to be with."
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10:44 - 10:48Another woman said "Before my husband
passed he just made me feel good. -
10:48 - 10:52I miss the way he would make me feel."
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10:52 - 10:56And a man said "Makes you feel
like your life is worth a little bit." -
10:56 - 11:00So yeah, sex in all of its ups and downs,
and ebbs and flows, -
11:00 - 11:02and having it,
and not having it sometimes, -
11:02 - 11:07all of that is part of the normal
human experience of sexuality. -
11:07 - 11:10It is a normal part of life,
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11:10 - 11:13I just think we have to go out
and make it normal. -
11:13 - 11:16Now I have a professional stake
in this for sure, -
11:16 - 11:18because I believe
that if we make it normal, -
11:18 - 11:20if we help people to become
more comfortable, -
11:20 - 11:23that people will more easily report
sexual assaults and rapes, -
11:23 - 11:26they'll more easily talk about
STIs and STI-testing, -
11:26 - 11:29they'll more easily talk about love,
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11:29 - 11:31intimacy and connection
with their partners. -
11:31 - 11:33But I also have a personal stake in this.
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11:33 - 11:35And this is that, like many of you,
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11:35 - 11:41I know the sadness, and pain,
and frustration of relationship problems, -
11:41 - 11:43when two people can't talk about sex.
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11:43 - 11:47I also know the joys, and the intimacy,
and the pleasure -
11:47 - 11:51that comes with relationships,
when two people can talk about sex. -
11:51 - 11:54The other personal stake for me is that,
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11:54 - 11:57when I think of 13-year-old girls
riding bikes, -
11:57 - 12:03rather than thinking of them secretly
buying tampons, crossing busy streets, -
12:03 - 12:04disobeying their parents,
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12:04 - 12:08I wish for them a world,
in which they're riding their bikes -
12:08 - 12:09to a friend's house,
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12:09 - 12:13feeling the freedom that comes
with being young, and out on your own. -
12:13 - 12:15Because for them,
they will be living in a world -
12:15 - 12:20where sex, and bodies,
and periods and puberty are totally normal -
12:20 - 12:23because all of you and I made it normal.
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12:23 - 12:24Thank you.
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12:24 - 12:26(Applause)
- Title:
- Making sex normal | Debby Herbenick | TEDxBloomington
- Description:
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The belief that human beings -- throughout their lives -- deserve to have access to accurate information about their bodies and sexuality drives much of Debby Herbenick's work. Among her greatest passions is translating sexual science to the general public through teaching, books, columns, podcasts, television, social media, blogging, crafting, public art, and her latest project: Make Sex Normal.
This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
- Video Language:
- English
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- Duration:
- 12:29
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