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I'm here to recruit men
to support gender equality.
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(Cheers)
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Wait, wait. What?
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What do men have to do
with gender equality?
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Gender equality is about women, right?
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I mean, the word gender is about women.
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Actually, I'm even here speaking
as a middle class white man.
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Now, I wasn't always
a middle class white man.
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It all happened for me about 30 years ago
when I was in graduate school,
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and a bunch of us graduate students
got together one day,
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and we said, you know,
there's an explosion
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of writing and thinking
in feminist theory,
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but there's no courses yet.
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So we did what graduate students
typically do in a situation like that.
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We said, OK, let's have a study group.
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We'll read a text, we'll talk about it,
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we'll have a potluck dinner.
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(Laughter)
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So every week,
11 women and me got together.
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(Laughter)
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We would read some text in feminist theory
and have a conversation about it.
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And during one of our conversations,
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I witnessed an interaction
that changed my life forever.
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It was a conversation between two women.
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One of the women was white,
and one was black.
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And the white woman said --
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this is going to sound
very anachronistic now --
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the white woman said, "All women
face the same oppression as women.
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All women are similarly
situated in patriarchy,
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and therefore all women have a kind
of intuitive solidarity or sisterhood."
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And the black woman said,
"I'm not so sure.
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Let me ask you a question."
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So the black woman
says to the white woman,
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"When you wake up in the morning
and you look in the mirror,
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what do you see?"
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And the white woman said, "I see a woman."
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And the black woman said,
"You see, that's the problem for me.
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Because when I wake up in the morning
and I look in the mirror," she said,
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"I see a black woman.
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To me, race is visible. But to you,
race is invisible. You don't see it."
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And then she said
something really startling.
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She said, "That's how privilege works.
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Privilege is invisible
to those who have it."
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It is a luxury, I will say
to the white people sitting in this room,
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not to have to think about race
every split second of our lives.
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Privilege is invisible
to those who have it.
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Now remember, I was
the only man in this group,
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so when I witnessed this, I went, "Oh no."
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(Laughter)
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And somebody said,
"Well what was that reaction?"
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And I said, "Well, when I wake up
in the morning and I look in the mirror,
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I see a human being.
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I'm kind of the generic person.
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You know, I'm a middle class white man.
I have no race, no class, no gender.
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I'm universally generalizable."
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(Laughter)
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So I like to think that was the moment
I became a middle class white man,
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that class and race and gender
were not about other people,
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they were about me.
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I had to start thinking about them,
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and it had been privilege that had
kept it invisible to me for so long.
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Now, I wish I could tell you
this story ends 30 years ago
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in that little discussion group,
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but I was reminded of it quite recently
at my university where I teach.
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I have a colleague, and she and I
both teach the sociology of gender course
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on alternate semesters.
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So she gives a guest lecture
for me when I teach.
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I give a guest lecture
for her when she teaches.
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So I walk into her class
to give a guest lecture,
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about 300 students in the room,
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and as I walk in, one of the students
looks up and says,
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"Oh, finally, an objective opinion."
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All that semester, whenever
my colleague opened her mouth,
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what my students saw was a woman.
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I mean, if you were to say to my students,
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"There is structural inequality
based on gender in the United States,"
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they'd say, "Well of course
you'd say that.
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You're a woman. You're biased."
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When I say it, they go,
"Wow, is that interesting.
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Is that going to be on the test?
How do you spell 'structural'?"
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(Laughter)
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So I hope you all can see,
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this is what objectivity looks like.
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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Disembodied Western rationality.
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(Laughter)
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And that, by the way, is why I think
men so often wear ties.
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(Laughter)
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Because if you are going to embody
disembodied Western rationality,
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you need a signifier,
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and what could be a better signifier
of disembodied Western rationality
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than a garment that at one end is a noose
and the other end points to the genitals?
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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That is mind-body dualism right there.
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So making gender visible to men
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is the first step to engaging men
to support gender equality.
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Now, when men first hear
about gender equality,
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when they first start thinking about it,
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they often think, many men think,
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well, that's right,
that's fair, that's just,
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that's the ethical imperative.
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But not all men.
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Some men think --
the lightning bolt goes off,
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and they go, "Oh my God,
yes, gender equality,"
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and they will immediately begin
to mansplain to you your oppression.
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They see supporting gender equality
something akin to the calvary,
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like, "Thanks very much for bringing this
to our attention, ladies,
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we'll take it from here."
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This results in a syndrome that I like
to call 'premature self-congratulation.'
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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There's another group, though,
that actively resists gender equality,
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that sees gender equality
as something that is detrimental to men.
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I was on a TV talk show
opposite four white men.
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This is the beginning of the book
I wrote, 'Angry White Men.'
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These were four angry white men
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who believed that they,
white men in America,
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were the victims of reverse discrimination
in the workplace.
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And they all told stories
about how they were qualified for jobs,
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qualified for promotions,
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they didn't get them,
they were really angry.
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And the reason I'm telling you this
is I want you to hear the title
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of this particular show.
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It was a quote from one of the men,
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and the quote was,
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"A Black Woman Stole My Job."
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And they all told their stories,
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qualified for jobs,
qualified for promotions,
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didn't get it, really angry.
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And then it was my turn to speak,
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and I said, "I have
just one question for you guys,
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and it's about the title of the show,
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'A Black Woman Stole My Job.'
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Actually, it's about
one word in the title.
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I want to know about the word 'my.'
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Where did you get the idea
it was your job?
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Why isn't the title of the show,
'A Black Woman Got the Job?'
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or 'A Black Woman Got A Job?'"
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Because without confronting
men's sense of entitlement,
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I don't think we'll ever understand
why so many men resist gender equality.
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(Applause)
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Look, we think this
is a level playing field,
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so any policy that tilts it
even a little bit,
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we think, "Oh my God,
water's rushing uphill.
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It's reverse discrimination against us."
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(Laughter)
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So let me be very clear:
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white men in Europe and the United States
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are the beneficiaries of the single
greatest affirmative action program
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in the history of the world.
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It is called "the history of the world."
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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So, now I've established
some of the obstacles to engaging men,
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but why should we support gender equality?
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Of course, it's fair,
it's right and it's just.
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But more than that,
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gender equality is also
in our interest as men.
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If you listen to what men say
about what they want in their lives,
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gender equality is actually a way
for us to get the lives we want to live.
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Gender equality is good for countries.
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It turns out, according to most studies,
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that those countries
that are the most gender equal
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are also the countries that score highest
on the happiness scale.
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And that's not just because
they're all in Europe.
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(Laughter)
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Even within Europe, those countries
that are more gender equal
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also have the highest levels of happiness.
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It is also good for companies.
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Research by Catalyst and others
has shown conclusively
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that the more gender-equal companies are,
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the better it is for workers,
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the happier their labor force is.
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They have lower job turnover.
They have lower levels of attrition.
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They have an easier time recruiting.
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They have higher rates of retention,
higher job satisfaction,
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higher rates of productivity.
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So the question I'm often asked
in companies is,
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"Boy, this gender equality thing,
that's really going to be expensive, huh?"
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And I say, "Oh no, in fact,
what you have to start calculating
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is how much gender inequality
is already costing you.
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It is extremely expensive."
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So it is good for business.
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And the other thing is, it's good for men.
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It is good for the kind of lives
we want to live,
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because young men especially
have changed enormously,
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and they want to have lives
that are animated
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by terrific relationships
with their children.
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They expect their partners,
their spouses, their wives,
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to work outside the home
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and be just as committed
to their careers as they are.
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I was talking, to give you
an illustration of this change --
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Some of you may remember this.
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When I was a lot younger,
there was a riddle that was posed to us.
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Some of you may wince
to remember this riddle.
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This riddle went something like this.
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A man and his son
are driving on the freeway,
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and they're in a terrible accident,
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and the father is killed,
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and the son is brought
to the hospital emergency room,
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and as they're bringing the son
into the hospital emergency room,
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the emergency room attending physician
sees the boy and says,
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"Oh, I can't treat him, that's my son."
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How is this possible?
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We were flummoxed by this.
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We could not figure this out.
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(Laughter)
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Well, I decided to do a little experiment
with my 16-year old son.
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He had a bunch of his friends
hanging out at the house
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watching a game on TV recently.
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So I decided I would pose
this riddle to them,
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just to see, to gauge the level of change.
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Well, 16-year-old boys,
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they immediately turned to me
and said, "It's his mom." Right?
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No problem. Just like that.
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Except for my son, who said,
"Well, he could have two dads."
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(Laughter) (Applause)
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That's an index, an indicator
of how things have changed.
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Younger men today expect
to be able to balance work and family.
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They want to be dual-career,
dual-carer couples.
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They want to be able to balance
work and family with their partners.
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They want to be involved fathers.
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Now, it turns out
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that the more egalitarian
our relationships,
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the happier both partners are.
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Data from psychologists and sociologists
are quite persuasive here.
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I think we have the persuasive numbers,
the data, to prove to men
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that gender equality
is not a zero-sum game, but a win-win.
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Here's what the data show.
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Now, when men begin
the process of engaging
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with balancing work and family,
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we often have two phrases
that we use to describe what we do.
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We pitch in and we help out.
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(Laughter)
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And I'm going to propose
something a little bit more radical,
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one word: "share."
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(Laughter)
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Because here's what the data show:
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when men share housework and childcare,
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their children do better in school.
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Their children have lower rates
of absenteeism,
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higher rates of achievement.
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They are less likely
to be diagnosed with ADHD.
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They are less likely
to see a child psychiatrist.
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They are less likely
to be put on medication.
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So when men share housework and childcare,
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their children are happier and healthier,
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and men want this.
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When men share housework and childcare,
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their wives are happier. Duh.
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Not only that, their wives are healthier.
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Their wives are less likely
to see a therapist,
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less likely to be diagnosed
with depression,
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less likely to be put on medication,
more likely to go to the gym,
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report higher levels
of marital satisfaction.
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So when men share housework and childcare,
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their wives are happier and healthier,
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and men certainly want this as well.
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When men share housework and childcare,
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the men are healthier.
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They smoke less, drink less,
take recreational drugs less often.
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They are less likely to go to the ER
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but more like to go to a doctor
for routine screenings.
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They are less likely to see a therapist,
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less likely to be diagnosed
with depression,
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less likely to be taking
prescription medication.
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So when men share housework and childcare,
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the men are happier and healthier.
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And who wouldn't want that?
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And finally,
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when men share housework and childcare,
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they have more sex.
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(Laughter)
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Now, of these four fascinating findings,
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which one do you think
Men's Health magazine put on its cover?
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(Laughter)
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"Housework Makes Her Horny.
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(Not When She Does It.)"
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(Laughter)
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Now, I will say,
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just to remind the men in the audience,
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these data were collected
over a really long period of time,
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so I don't want listeners to say,
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"Hmm, OK, I think
I'll do the dishes tonight."
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These data were collected
over a really long period of time.
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But I think it shows something important,
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that when Men's Health magazine
put it on their cover,
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they also called,
you'll love this, "Choreplay."
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So, what we found
is something really important,
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that gender equality
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is in the interest of countries,
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of companies, and of men,
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and their children and their partners,
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that gender equality
is not a zero-sum game.
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It's not a win-lose.
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It is a win-win for everyone.
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And what we also know
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is we cannot fully empower women and girls
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unless we engage boys and men.
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We know this.
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And my position is
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that men need the very things
that women have identified
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that they need to live the lives
they say they want to live
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in order to live the lives
that we say we want to live.
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In 1915, on the eve of one
of the great suffrage demonstrations
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down Fifth Avenue in New York City,
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a writer in New York
wrote an article in a magazine,
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and the title of the article was,
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"Feminism for Men."
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And this was the first line
of that article:
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"Feminism will make it possible
for the first time for men to be free."
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
Camille Martínez
Hi,
Please note that on 2/23/16, the word "CALVary" was changed to "CAValry" in the below subtitle:
5:28 - 5:33
They see supporting gender equality
something akin to the cavalry,
Thank you,
Camille