On being wrong
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0:00 - 0:03So it's 1995,
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0:03 - 0:05I'm in college,
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0:05 - 0:08and a friend and I go on a road trip
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0:08 - 0:10from Providence, Rhode Island
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0:10 - 0:12to Portland, Oregon.
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0:12 - 0:15And you know, we're young and unemployed,
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0:15 - 0:17so we do the whole thing on back roads
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0:17 - 0:19through state parks
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0:19 - 0:22and national forests --
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0:22 - 0:25basically the longest route we can possibly take.
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0:26 - 0:29And somewhere in the middle of South Dakota,
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0:29 - 0:32I turn to my friend
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0:32 - 0:34and I ask her a question
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0:34 - 0:36that's been bothering me
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0:36 - 0:39for 2,000 miles.
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0:40 - 0:44"What's up with the Chinese character I keep seeing by the side of the road?"
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0:47 - 0:51My friend looks at me totally blankly.
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0:51 - 0:53There's actually a gentleman in the front row
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0:53 - 0:56who's doing a perfect imitation of her look.
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0:56 - 0:59(Laughter)
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0:59 - 1:01And I'm like, "You know,
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1:01 - 1:03all the signs we keep seeing
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1:03 - 1:06with the Chinese character on them."
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1:07 - 1:10She just stares at me for a few moments,
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1:10 - 1:13and then she cracks up,
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1:13 - 1:15because she figures out what I'm talking about.
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1:15 - 1:18And what I'm talking about is this.
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1:18 - 1:24(Laughter)
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1:24 - 1:28Right, the famous Chinese character for picnic area.
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1:28 - 1:30(Laughter)
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1:30 - 1:34I've spent the last five years of my life
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1:34 - 1:36thinking about situations
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1:36 - 1:39exactly like this --
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1:39 - 1:41why we sometimes misunderstand
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1:41 - 1:43the signs around us,
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1:43 - 1:46and how we behave when that happens,
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1:46 - 1:50and what all of this can tell us about human nature.
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1:50 - 1:52In other words, as you heard Chris say,
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1:52 - 1:54I've spent the last five years
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1:54 - 1:57thinking about being wrong.
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1:57 - 2:00This might strike you as a strange career move,
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2:00 - 2:03but it actually has one great advantage:
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2:03 - 2:05no job competition.
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2:05 - 2:07(Laughter)
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2:07 - 2:10In fact, most of us do everything we can
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2:10 - 2:13to avoid thinking about being wrong,
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2:13 - 2:15or at least to avoid thinking about the possibility
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2:15 - 2:17that we ourselves are wrong.
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2:17 - 2:19We get it in the abstract.
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2:19 - 2:21We all know everybody in this room makes mistakes.
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2:22 - 2:25The human species, in general, is fallible -- okay fine.
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2:26 - 2:29But when it comes down to me, right now,
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2:29 - 2:31to all the beliefs I hold,
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2:31 - 2:34here in the present tense,
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2:34 - 2:38suddenly all of this abstract appreciation of fallibility
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2:38 - 2:41goes out the window --
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2:41 - 2:44and I can't actually think of anything I'm wrong about.
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2:45 - 2:48And the thing is, the present tense is where we live.
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2:48 - 2:51We go to meetings in the present tense;
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2:51 - 2:53we go on family vacations in the present tense;
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2:53 - 2:57we go to the polls and vote in the present tense.
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2:57 - 3:00So effectively, we all kind of wind up traveling through life,
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3:00 - 3:02trapped in this little bubble
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3:02 - 3:05of feeling very right about everything.
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3:06 - 3:08I think this is a problem.
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3:08 - 3:11I think it's a problem for each of us as individuals,
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3:11 - 3:14in our personal and professional lives,
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3:14 - 3:17and I think it's a problem for all of us collectively as a culture.
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3:17 - 3:19So what I want to do today
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3:19 - 3:22is, first of all, talk about why we get stuck
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3:22 - 3:24inside this feeling of being right.
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3:24 - 3:27And second, why it's such a problem.
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3:27 - 3:29And finally, I want to convince you
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3:29 - 3:31that it is possible
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3:31 - 3:33to step outside of that feeling
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3:33 - 3:35and that if you can do so,
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3:35 - 3:37it is the single greatest
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3:37 - 3:40moral, intellectual and creative leap you can make.
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3:42 - 3:44So why do we get stuck
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3:44 - 3:46in this feeling of being right?
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3:46 - 3:49One reason, actually, has to do with a feeling of being wrong.
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3:49 - 3:51So let me ask you guys something --
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3:51 - 3:55or actually, let me ask you guys something, because you're right here:
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3:55 - 3:58How does it feel -- emotionally --
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3:58 - 4:01how does it feel to be wrong?
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4:01 - 4:04Dreadful. Thumbs down.
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4:04 - 4:06Embarrassing. Okay, wonderful, great.
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4:06 - 4:08Dreadful, thumbs down, embarrassing --
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4:08 - 4:11thank you, these are great answers,
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4:11 - 4:14but they're answers to a different question.
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4:14 - 4:16You guys are answering the question:
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4:16 - 4:19How does it feel to realize you're wrong?
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4:19 - 4:23(Laughter)
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4:23 - 4:26Realizing you're wrong can feel like all of that and a lot of other things, right?
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4:26 - 4:29I mean it can be devastating, it can be revelatory,
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4:29 - 4:31it can actually be quite funny,
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4:31 - 4:34like my stupid Chinese character mistake.
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4:34 - 4:37But just being wrong
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4:37 - 4:39doesn't feel like anything.
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4:39 - 4:42I'll give you an analogy.
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4:42 - 4:44Do you remember that Loony Tunes cartoon
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4:44 - 4:46where there's this pathetic coyote
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4:46 - 4:48who's always chasing and never catching a roadrunner?
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4:48 - 4:51In pretty much every episode of this cartoon,
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4:51 - 4:53there's a moment where the coyote is chasing the roadrunner
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4:53 - 4:55and the roadrunner runs off a cliff,
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4:55 - 4:58which is fine -- he's a bird, he can fly.
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4:58 - 5:02But the thing is, the coyote runs off the cliff right after him.
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5:02 - 5:04And what's funny --
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5:04 - 5:06at least if you're six years old --
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5:06 - 5:08is that the coyote's totally fine too.
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5:08 - 5:10He just keeps running --
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5:10 - 5:12right up until the moment that he looks down
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5:12 - 5:15and realizes that he's in mid-air.
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5:15 - 5:18That's when he falls.
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5:19 - 5:21When we're wrong about something --
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5:21 - 5:24not when we realize it, but before that --
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5:24 - 5:27we're like that coyote
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5:27 - 5:30after he's gone off the cliff and before he looks down.
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5:31 - 5:34You know, we're already wrong,
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5:34 - 5:36we're already in trouble,
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5:36 - 5:39but we feel like we're on solid ground.
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5:40 - 5:43So I should actually correct something I said a moment ago.
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5:43 - 5:46It does feel like something to be wrong;
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5:46 - 5:49it feels like being right.
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5:49 - 5:52(Laughter)
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5:52 - 5:55So this is one reason, a structural reason,
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5:55 - 5:57why we get stuck inside this feeling of rightness.
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5:57 - 5:59I call this error blindness.
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5:59 - 6:01Most of the time,
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6:01 - 6:04we don't have any kind of internal cue
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6:04 - 6:06to let us know that we're wrong about something,
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6:06 - 6:09until it's too late.
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6:09 - 6:12But there's a second reason that we get stuck inside this feeling as well --
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6:12 - 6:14and this one is cultural.
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6:15 - 6:18Think back for a moment to elementary school.
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6:18 - 6:20You're sitting there in class,
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6:20 - 6:23and your teacher is handing back quiz papers,
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6:23 - 6:25and one of them looks like this.
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6:25 - 6:27This is not mine, by the way.
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6:27 - 6:29(Laughter)
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6:29 - 6:32So there you are in grade school,
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6:32 - 6:34and you know exactly what to think
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6:34 - 6:37about the kid who got this paper.
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6:37 - 6:40It's the dumb kid, the troublemaker,
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6:40 - 6:43the one who never does his homework.
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6:43 - 6:46So by the time you are nine years old,
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6:46 - 6:48you've already learned, first of all,
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6:48 - 6:50that people who get stuff wrong
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6:50 - 6:53are lazy, irresponsible dimwits --
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6:53 - 6:55and second of all,
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6:55 - 6:57that the way to succeed in life
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6:57 - 7:00is to never make any mistakes.
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7:01 - 7:05We learn these really bad lessons really well.
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7:06 - 7:08And a lot of us --
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7:08 - 7:12and I suspect, especially a lot of us in this room --
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7:12 - 7:14deal with them by just becoming
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7:14 - 7:16perfect little A students,
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7:16 - 7:19perfectionists, over-achievers.
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7:19 - 7:21Right,
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7:21 - 7:25Mr. CFO, astrophysicist, ultra-marathoner?
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7:25 - 7:32(Laughter)
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7:32 - 7:36You're all CFO, astrophysicists, ultra-marathoners, it turns out.
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7:36 - 7:38Okay, so fine.
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7:38 - 7:41Except that then we freak out
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7:41 - 7:43at the possibility that we've gotten something wrong.
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7:43 - 7:46Because according to this,
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7:46 - 7:48getting something wrong
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7:48 - 7:51means there's something wrong with us.
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7:51 - 7:53So we just insist that we're right,
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7:53 - 7:55because it makes us feel smart and responsible
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7:55 - 7:58and virtuous and safe.
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7:59 - 8:01So let me tell you a story.
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8:01 - 8:03A couple of years ago,
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8:03 - 8:06a woman comes into Beth Israel Deaconess Medical Center for a surgery.
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8:06 - 8:08Beth Israel's in Boston.
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8:08 - 8:10It's the teaching hospital for Harvard --
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8:10 - 8:12one of the best hospitals in the country.
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8:12 - 8:15So this woman comes in and she's taken into the operating room.
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8:15 - 8:17She's anesthetized, the surgeon does his thing --
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8:17 - 8:20stitches her back up, sends her out to the recovery room.
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8:20 - 8:23Everything seems to have gone fine.
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8:23 - 8:26And she wakes up, and she looks down at herself,
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8:26 - 8:30and she says, "Why is the wrong side of my body in bandages?"
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8:30 - 8:33Well the wrong side of her body is in bandages
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8:33 - 8:35because the surgeon has performed a major operation
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8:35 - 8:38on her left leg instead of her right one.
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8:39 - 8:42When the vice president for health care quality at Beth Israel
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8:42 - 8:45spoke about this incident,
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8:45 - 8:48he said something very interesting.
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8:48 - 8:51He said, "For whatever reason,
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8:51 - 8:53the surgeon simply felt
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8:53 - 8:55that he was on the correct side of the patient."
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8:55 - 8:58(Laughter)
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9:00 - 9:02The point of this story
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9:02 - 9:05is that trusting too much in the feeling
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9:05 - 9:08of being on the correct side of anything
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9:08 - 9:11can be very dangerous.
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9:11 - 9:14This internal sense of rightness
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9:14 - 9:16that we all experience so often
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9:16 - 9:18is not a reliable guide
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9:18 - 9:21to what is actually going on in the external world.
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9:21 - 9:23And when we act like it is,
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9:23 - 9:27and we stop entertaining the possibility that we could be wrong,
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9:27 - 9:29well that's when we end up doing things
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9:29 - 9:33like dumping 200 million gallons of oil into the Gulf of Mexico,
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9:33 - 9:36or torpedoing the global economy.
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9:37 - 9:40So this is a huge practical problem.
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9:40 - 9:43But it's also a huge social problem.
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9:43 - 9:47Think for a moment about what it means to feel right.
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9:47 - 9:49It means that you think that your beliefs
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9:49 - 9:52just perfectly reflect reality.
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9:52 - 9:54And when you feel that way,
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9:54 - 9:56you've got a problem to solve,
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9:56 - 9:58which is, how are you going to explain
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9:58 - 10:01all of those people who disagree with you?
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10:01 - 10:04It turns out, most of us explain those people the same way,
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10:04 - 10:07by resorting to a series of unfortunate assumptions.
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10:08 - 10:11The first thing we usually do when someone disagrees with us
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10:11 - 10:14is we just assume they're ignorant.
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10:14 - 10:16They don't have access to the same information that we do,
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10:16 - 10:19and when we generously share that information with them,
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10:19 - 10:22they're going to see the light and come on over to our team.
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10:22 - 10:25When that doesn't work,
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10:25 - 10:27when it turns out those people have all the same facts that we do
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10:27 - 10:29and they still disagree with us,
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10:29 - 10:31then we move on to a second assumption,
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10:31 - 10:33which is that they're idiots.
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10:33 - 10:35(Laughter)
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10:35 - 10:37They have all the right pieces of the puzzle,
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10:37 - 10:40and they are too moronic to put them together correctly.
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10:40 - 10:42And when that doesn't work,
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10:42 - 10:45when it turns out that people who disagree with us
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10:45 - 10:47have all the same facts we do
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10:47 - 10:50and are actually pretty smart,
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10:50 - 10:53then we move on to a third assumption:
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10:53 - 10:56they know the truth,
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10:56 - 10:58and they are deliberately distorting it
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10:58 - 11:01for their own malevolent purposes.
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11:02 - 11:04So this is a catastrophe.
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11:04 - 11:07This attachment to our own rightness
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11:07 - 11:09keeps us from preventing mistakes
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11:09 - 11:11when we absolutely need to
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11:11 - 11:14and causes us to treat each other terribly.
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11:15 - 11:17But to me, what's most baffling
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11:17 - 11:20and most tragic about this
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11:20 - 11:24is that it misses the whole point of being human.
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11:24 - 11:26It's like we want to imagine
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11:26 - 11:29that our minds are just these perfectly translucent windows
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11:29 - 11:31and we just gaze out of them
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11:31 - 11:34and describe the world as it unfolds.
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11:34 - 11:36And we want everybody else to gaze out of the same window
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11:36 - 11:38and see the exact same thing.
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11:38 - 11:40That is not true,
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11:40 - 11:43and if it were, life would be incredibly boring.
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11:43 - 11:46The miracle of your mind
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11:46 - 11:49isn't that you can see the world as it is.
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11:50 - 11:53It's that you can see the world as it isn't.
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11:54 - 11:56We can remember the past,
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11:56 - 11:59and we can think about the future,
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11:59 - 12:01and we can imagine what it's like
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12:01 - 12:04to be some other person in some other place.
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12:04 - 12:06And we all do this a little differently,
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12:06 - 12:08which is why we can all look up at the same night sky
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12:08 - 12:10and see this
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12:10 - 12:12and also this
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12:12 - 12:15and also this.
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12:15 - 12:18And yeah, it is also why we get things wrong.
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12:19 - 12:211,200 years before Descartes said his famous thing
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12:21 - 12:23about "I think therefore I am,"
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12:23 - 12:25this guy, St. Augustine, sat down
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12:25 - 12:28and wrote "Fallor ergo sum" --
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12:28 - 12:32"I err therefore I am."
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12:32 - 12:34Augustine understood
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12:34 - 12:36that our capacity to screw up,
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12:36 - 12:38it's not some kind of embarrassing defect
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12:38 - 12:40in the human system,
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12:40 - 12:43something we can eradicate or overcome.
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12:43 - 12:46It's totally fundamental to who we are.
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12:46 - 12:48Because, unlike God,
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12:48 - 12:51we don't really know what's going on out there.
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12:51 - 12:54And unlike all of the other animals,
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12:54 - 12:58we are obsessed with trying to figure it out.
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12:58 - 13:00To me, this obsession
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13:00 - 13:02is the source and root
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13:02 - 13:05of all of our productivity and creativity.
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13:05 - 13:08Last year, for various reasons,
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13:08 - 13:10I found myself listening to a lot of episodes
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13:10 - 13:12of the Public Radio show This American Life.
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13:12 - 13:15And so I'm listening and I'm listening,
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13:15 - 13:18and at some point, I start feeling
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13:18 - 13:21like all the stories are about being wrong.
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13:22 - 13:24And my first thought was,
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13:24 - 13:26"I've lost it.
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13:26 - 13:28I've become the crazy wrongness lady.
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13:28 - 13:30I just imagined it everywhere,"
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13:30 - 13:32which has happened.
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13:32 - 13:34But a couple of months later,
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13:34 - 13:36I actually had a chance to interview Ira Glass, who's the host of the show.
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13:36 - 13:38And I mentioned this to him,
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13:38 - 13:41and he was like, "No actually, that's true.
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13:41 - 13:43In fact," he says,
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13:43 - 13:45"as a staff, we joke
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13:45 - 13:47that every single episode of our show
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13:47 - 13:50has the same crypto-theme.
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13:50 - 13:52And the crypto-theme is:
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13:52 - 13:55'I thought this one thing was going to happen
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13:55 - 13:58and something else happened instead.'
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13:58 - 14:01And the thing is," says Ira Glass, "we need this.
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14:01 - 14:03We need these moments
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14:03 - 14:05of surprise and reversal and wrongness
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14:05 - 14:07to make these stories work."
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14:07 - 14:09And for the rest of us, audience members,
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14:09 - 14:12as listeners, as readers,
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14:12 - 14:14we eat this stuff up.
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14:14 - 14:17We love things like plot twists
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14:17 - 14:20and red herrings and surprise endings.
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14:20 - 14:23When it comes to our stories,
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14:23 - 14:26we love being wrong.
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14:26 - 14:28But, you know, our stories are like this
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14:28 - 14:31because our lives are like this.
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14:31 - 14:34We think this one thing is going to happen
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14:34 - 14:37and something else happens instead.
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14:37 - 14:39George Bush thought he was going to invade Iraq,
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14:39 - 14:41find a bunch of weapons of mass destruction,
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14:41 - 14:44liberate the people and bring democracy to the Middle East.
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14:45 - 14:47And something else happened instead.
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14:48 - 14:50And Hosni Mubarak
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14:50 - 14:52thought he was going to be the dictator of Egypt for the rest of his life,
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14:52 - 14:54until he got too old or too sick
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14:54 - 14:57and could pass the reigns of power onto his son.
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14:57 - 15:00And something else happened instead.
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15:01 - 15:03And maybe you thought
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15:03 - 15:05you were going to grow up and marry your high school sweetheart
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15:05 - 15:08and move back to your hometown and raise a bunch of kids together.
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15:09 - 15:12And something else happened instead.
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15:12 - 15:14And I have to tell you
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15:14 - 15:16that I thought I was writing an incredibly nerdy book
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15:16 - 15:18about a subject everybody hates
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15:18 - 15:21for an audience that would never materialize.
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15:21 - 15:23And something else happened instead.
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15:23 - 15:25(Laughter)
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15:25 - 15:27I mean, this is life.
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15:27 - 15:29For good and for ill,
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15:29 - 15:32we generate these incredible stories
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15:32 - 15:34about the world around us,
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15:34 - 15:37and then the world turns around and astonishes us.
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15:40 - 15:43No offense, but this entire conference
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15:43 - 15:45is an unbelievable monument
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15:45 - 15:47to our capacity to get stuff wrong.
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15:47 - 15:49We just spent an entire week
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15:49 - 15:51talking about innovations and advancements
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15:51 - 15:53and improvements,
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15:53 - 15:56but you know why we need all of those innovations
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15:56 - 15:58and advancements and improvements?
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15:58 - 16:00Because half the stuff
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16:00 - 16:03that's the most mind-boggling and world-altering --
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16:03 - 16:05TED 1998 --
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16:05 - 16:07eh.
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16:07 - 16:11(Laughter)
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16:11 - 16:13Didn't really work out that way, did it?
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16:13 - 16:15(Laughter)
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16:15 - 16:18Where's my jet pack, Chris?
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16:18 - 16:22(Laughter)
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16:22 - 16:27(Applause)
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16:27 - 16:30So here we are again.
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16:30 - 16:32And that's how it goes.
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16:32 - 16:34We come up with another idea.
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16:34 - 16:37We tell another story.
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16:37 - 16:40We hold another conference.
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16:40 - 16:42The theme of this one,
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16:42 - 16:44as you guys have now heard seven million times,
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16:44 - 16:46is the rediscovery of wonder.
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16:46 - 16:48And to me,
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16:48 - 16:51if you really want to rediscover wonder,
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16:51 - 16:53you need to step outside
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16:53 - 16:59of that tiny, terrified space of rightness
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16:59 - 17:02and look around at each other
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17:02 - 17:05and look out at the vastness
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17:05 - 17:08and complexity and mystery
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17:08 - 17:11of the universe
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17:11 - 17:14and be able to say,
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17:14 - 17:18"Wow, I don't know.
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17:18 - 17:20Maybe I'm wrong."
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17:20 - 17:22Thank you.
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17:22 - 17:25(Applause)
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17:25 - 17:27Thank you guys.
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17:27 - 17:30(Applause)
- Title:
- On being wrong
- Speaker:
- Kathryn Schulz
- Description:
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Most of us will do anything to avoid being wrong. But what if we're wrong about that? "Wrongologist" Kathryn Schulz makes a compelling case for not just admitting but embracing our fallibility.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 17:31
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