Making global labor fair
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0:00 - 0:03This cell phone
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0:03 - 0:06started its trajectory
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0:06 - 0:08in an artisanal mine
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0:08 - 0:10in the Eastern Congo.
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0:10 - 0:12It's mined by armed gangs
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0:12 - 0:14using slaves, child slaves,
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0:14 - 0:16what the U.N. Security Council
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0:16 - 0:18calls "blood minerals,"
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0:18 - 0:20then traveled into some components
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0:20 - 0:22and ended up in a factory
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0:22 - 0:24in Shinjin in China.
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0:24 - 0:27That factory -- over a dozen people have committed suicide
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0:27 - 0:29already this year.
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0:29 - 0:32One man died after working a 36-hour shift.
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0:33 - 0:35We all love chocolate.
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0:35 - 0:37We buy it for our kids.
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0:37 - 0:40Eighty percent of the cocoa comes from Cote d'Ivoire and Ghana
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0:40 - 0:43and it's harvested by children.
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0:43 - 0:45Cote d'Ivoire, we have a huge problem of child slaves.
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0:45 - 0:48Children have been trafficked from other conflict zones
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0:48 - 0:51to come and work on the coffee plantations.
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0:51 - 0:53Heparin -- a blood thinner,
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0:53 - 0:55a pharmaceutical product --
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0:55 - 0:58starts out in artisanal workshops
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0:58 - 1:00like this in China,
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1:00 - 1:02because the active ingredient
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1:02 - 1:05comes from pigs' intestines.
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1:05 - 1:08Your diamond -- you've all heard, probably seen the movie "Blood Diamond."
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1:08 - 1:10This is a mine in Zimbabwe
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1:10 - 1:12right now.
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1:12 - 1:14Cotton: Uzbekistan is the second biggest
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1:14 - 1:16exporter of cotton on Earth.
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1:16 - 1:19Every year when it comes to the cotton harvest,
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1:19 - 1:21the government shuts down the schools,
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1:21 - 1:24puts the kids in buses, buses them to the cotton fields
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1:24 - 1:27to spend three weeks harvesting the cotton.
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1:27 - 1:29It's forced child labor
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1:29 - 1:31on an institutional scale.
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1:32 - 1:35And all of those products probably end their lives
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1:35 - 1:37in a dump like this one in Manila.
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1:37 - 1:40These places, these origins,
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1:40 - 1:42represent governance gaps.
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1:42 - 1:44That's the politest description
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1:44 - 1:47I have for them.
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1:47 - 1:49These are the dark pools
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1:49 - 1:52where global supply chains begin --
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1:52 - 1:54the global supply chains,
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1:54 - 1:57which bring us our favorite brand name products.
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1:57 - 2:00Some of these governance gaps
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2:00 - 2:03are run by rogue states.
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2:03 - 2:05Some of them are not states anymore at all.
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2:05 - 2:07They're failed states.
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2:07 - 2:09Some of them
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2:09 - 2:12are just countries who believe that deregulation or no regulation
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2:12 - 2:15is the best way to attract investment,
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2:15 - 2:17promote trade.
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2:17 - 2:19Either way, they present us
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2:19 - 2:22with a huge moral and ethical dilemma.
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2:23 - 2:25I know that none of us want to be accessories
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2:25 - 2:28after the fact
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2:28 - 2:30of a human rights abuse
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2:30 - 2:32in a global supply chain.
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2:32 - 2:34But right now,
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2:34 - 2:37most of the companies involved in these supply chains
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2:37 - 2:39don't have any way
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2:39 - 2:41of assuring us
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2:41 - 2:43that nobody had to mortgage their future,
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2:43 - 2:46nobody had to sacrifice their rights
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2:46 - 2:48to bring us our favorite
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2:48 - 2:50brand name product.
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2:51 - 2:53Now, I didn't come here to depress you
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2:53 - 2:56about the state of the global supply chain.
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2:56 - 2:58We need a reality check.
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2:58 - 3:01We need to recognize just how serious
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3:01 - 3:04a deficit of rights we have.
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3:04 - 3:06This is an independent republic,
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3:06 - 3:08probably a failed state.
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3:08 - 3:11It's definitely not a democratic state.
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3:12 - 3:14And right now,
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3:14 - 3:16that independent republic of the supply chain
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3:16 - 3:18is not being governed
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3:18 - 3:21in a way that would satisfy us,
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3:21 - 3:24that we can engage in ethical trade or ethical consumption.
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3:25 - 3:27Now, that's not a new story.
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3:27 - 3:29You've seen the documentaries
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3:29 - 3:31of sweatshops making garments
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3:31 - 3:34all over the world, even in developed countries.
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3:34 - 3:36You want to see the classic sweatshop,
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3:36 - 3:38meet me at Madison Square Garden,
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3:38 - 3:41I'll take you down the street, and I'll show you a Chinese sweatshop.
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3:41 - 3:44But take the example of heparin.
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3:44 - 3:46It's a pharmaceutical product.
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3:46 - 3:49You expect that the supply chain that gets it to the hospital,
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3:49 - 3:52probably squeaky clean.
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3:53 - 3:55The problem is that the active ingredient in there --
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3:55 - 3:57as I mentioned earlier --
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3:57 - 3:59comes from pigs.
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3:59 - 4:02The main American manufacturer
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4:02 - 4:04of that active ingredient
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4:04 - 4:07decided a few years ago to relocate to China
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4:07 - 4:10because it's the world's biggest supplier of pigs.
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4:10 - 4:12And their factory in China --
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4:12 - 4:15which probably is pretty clean --
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4:15 - 4:17is getting all of the ingredients
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4:17 - 4:19from backyard abattoirs,
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4:19 - 4:21where families slaughter pigs
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4:21 - 4:24and extract the ingredient.
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4:24 - 4:26So a couple of years ago, we had a scandal
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4:26 - 4:28which killed about 80 people around the world,
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4:28 - 4:30because of contaminants
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4:30 - 4:33that crept into the heparin supply chain.
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4:33 - 4:35Worse, some of the suppliers
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4:35 - 4:39realized that they could substitute a product
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4:39 - 4:42which mimicked heparin in tests.
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4:43 - 4:46This substitute cost nine dollars a pound,
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4:46 - 4:49whereas real heparin, the real ingredient,
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4:49 - 4:52cost 900 dollars a pound.
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4:52 - 4:54A no-brainer.
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4:54 - 4:57The problem was that it killed more people.
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4:57 - 4:59And so you're asking yourself,
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4:59 - 5:01"How come the U.S. Food and Drug Administration
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5:01 - 5:03allowed this to happen?
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5:03 - 5:05How did the Chinese State Agency for Food and Drugs
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5:05 - 5:07allow this to happen?"
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5:07 - 5:10And the answer is quite simple:
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5:10 - 5:12the Chinese define these facilities
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5:12 - 5:15as chemical facilities, not pharmaceutical facilities,
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5:15 - 5:17so they don't audit them.
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5:17 - 5:19And the USFDA
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5:19 - 5:21has a jurisdictional problem.
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5:21 - 5:23This is offshore.
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5:23 - 5:25They actually do conduct a few investigations overseas --
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5:25 - 5:28about a dozen a year -- maybe 20 in a good year.
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5:28 - 5:30There are 500
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5:30 - 5:32of these facilities
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5:32 - 5:35producing active ingredients in China alone.
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5:35 - 5:38In fact, about 80 percent
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5:38 - 5:40of the active ingredients in medicines now
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5:40 - 5:42come from offshore,
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5:42 - 5:44particularly China and India,
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5:44 - 5:47and we don't have a governance system.
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5:47 - 5:49We don't have a regulatory system
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5:49 - 5:51able to ensure
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5:51 - 5:53that that production is safe.
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5:55 - 5:57We don't have a system to ensure
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5:57 - 5:59that human rights, basic dignity,
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5:59 - 6:01are ensured.
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6:02 - 6:05So at a national level --
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6:05 - 6:07and we work in about 60 different countries --
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6:07 - 6:09at a national level
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6:09 - 6:11we've got a serious breakdown in the ability of governments
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6:11 - 6:14to regulate production
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6:14 - 6:17on their own soil.
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6:17 - 6:19And the real problem with the global supply chain
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6:19 - 6:21is that it's supranational.
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6:21 - 6:23So governments who are failing,
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6:23 - 6:25who are dropping the ball
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6:25 - 6:27at a national level,
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6:27 - 6:29have even less ability to get their arms around the problem
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6:29 - 6:32at an international level.
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6:32 - 6:34And you can just look at the headlines.
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6:34 - 6:37Take Copenhagen last year --
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6:37 - 6:39complete failure of governments
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6:39 - 6:41to do the right thing
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6:41 - 6:44in the face of an international challenge.
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6:44 - 6:47Take the G20 meeting a couple of weeks ago --
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6:47 - 6:50stepped back from its commitments of just a few months ago.
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6:52 - 6:54You can take any one
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6:54 - 6:57of the major global challenges we've discussed this week
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6:57 - 7:00and ask yourself, where is the leadership from governments
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7:00 - 7:03to step up and come up with solutions,
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7:03 - 7:05responses,
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7:05 - 7:08to those international problems?
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7:08 - 7:11And the simple answer is they can't. They're national.
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7:12 - 7:14Their voters are local.
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7:14 - 7:16They have parochial interests.
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7:16 - 7:18They can't subordinate those interests
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7:18 - 7:21to the greater global public good.
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7:21 - 7:23So, if we're going to ensure the delivery
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7:23 - 7:25of the key public goods
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7:25 - 7:27at an international level --
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7:27 - 7:30in this case, in the global supply chain --
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7:30 - 7:33we have to come up with a different mechanism.
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7:33 - 7:35We need a different machine.
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7:37 - 7:40Fortunately, we have some examples.
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7:41 - 7:43In the 1990s,
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7:43 - 7:45there were a whole series of scandals
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7:45 - 7:47concerning the production of brand name goods in the U.S. --
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7:47 - 7:49child labor, forced labor,
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7:49 - 7:52serious health and safety abuses.
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7:52 - 7:54And eventually President Clinton, in 1996,
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7:54 - 7:57convened a meeting at the White House,
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7:57 - 8:00invited industry, human rights NGOs,
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8:00 - 8:02trade unions, the Department of Labor,
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8:02 - 8:04got them all in a room
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8:04 - 8:06and said, "Look,
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8:06 - 8:08I don't want globalization to be a race to the bottom.
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8:08 - 8:10I don't know how to prevent that,
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8:10 - 8:12but I'm at least going to use my good offices
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8:12 - 8:14to get you folks together
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8:14 - 8:17to come up with a response."
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8:17 - 8:19So they formed a White House task force,
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8:19 - 8:22and they spent about three years arguing
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8:22 - 8:25about who takes how much responsibility
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8:25 - 8:28in the global supply chain.
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8:28 - 8:31Companies didn't feel it was their responsibility.
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8:31 - 8:33They don't own those facilities.
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8:33 - 8:35They don't employ those workers.
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8:35 - 8:38They're not legally liable.
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8:38 - 8:40Everybody else at the table
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8:40 - 8:42said, "Folks, that doesn't cut it.
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8:42 - 8:45You have a custodial duty, a duty of care,
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8:45 - 8:47to make sure that that product
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8:47 - 8:50gets from wherever to the store
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8:50 - 8:53in a way that allows us to consume it,
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8:53 - 8:56without fear of our safety,
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8:56 - 9:00or without having to sacrifice our conscience
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9:00 - 9:02to consume that product."
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9:02 - 9:05So they agreed, "Okay, what we'll do
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9:05 - 9:07is we agree on a common set of standards,
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9:07 - 9:09code of conduct.
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9:09 - 9:11We'll apply that throughout
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9:11 - 9:13our global supply chain
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9:13 - 9:15regardless of ownership or control.
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9:15 - 9:18We'll make it part of the contract."
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9:18 - 9:21And that was a stroke of absolute genius,
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9:21 - 9:23because what they did
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9:23 - 9:26was they harnessed the power of the contract,
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9:26 - 9:28private power,
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9:28 - 9:30to deliver public goods.
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9:30 - 9:32And let's face it,
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9:32 - 9:34the contract from a major multinational brand
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9:34 - 9:37to a supplier in India or China
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9:37 - 9:39has much more persuasive value
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9:39 - 9:41than the local labor law,
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9:41 - 9:43the local environmental regulations,
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9:43 - 9:46the local human rights standards.
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9:46 - 9:49Those factories will probably never see an inspector.
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9:49 - 9:52If the inspector did come along,
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9:52 - 9:54it would be amazing if they were able
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9:54 - 9:57to resist the bribe.
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9:58 - 10:00Even if they did their jobs,
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10:00 - 10:03and they cited those facilities for their violations,
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10:04 - 10:06the fine would be derisory.
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10:06 - 10:08But you lose that contract
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10:08 - 10:10for a major brand name,
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10:10 - 10:12that's the difference
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10:12 - 10:15between staying in business or going bankrupt.
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10:15 - 10:17That makes a difference.
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10:17 - 10:19So what we've been able to do
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10:19 - 10:21is we've been able to harness
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10:21 - 10:23the power and the influence
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10:23 - 10:26of the only truly transnational institution
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10:26 - 10:28in the global supply chain,
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10:28 - 10:31that of the multinational company,
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10:31 - 10:33and get them to do the right thing,
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10:33 - 10:36get them to use that power for good,
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10:36 - 10:39to deliver the key public goods.
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10:40 - 10:42Now of course, this doesn't come naturally
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10:42 - 10:44to multinational companies.
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10:44 - 10:47They weren't set up to do this. They're set up to make money.
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10:47 - 10:50But they are extremely efficient organizations.
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10:50 - 10:52They have resources,
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10:52 - 10:55and if we can add the will, the commitment,
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10:55 - 10:58they know how to deliver that product.
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11:00 - 11:03Now, getting there is not easy.
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11:03 - 11:06Those supply chains I put up on the screen earlier,
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11:06 - 11:08they're not there.
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11:08 - 11:10You need a safe space.
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11:10 - 11:13You need a place where people can come together,
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11:13 - 11:15sit down without fear of judgment,
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11:15 - 11:17without recrimination,
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11:17 - 11:19to actually face the problem,
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11:19 - 11:22agree on the problem and come up with solutions.
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11:22 - 11:25We can do it. The technical solutions are there.
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11:25 - 11:28The problem is the lack of trust, the lack of confidence,
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11:28 - 11:30the lack of partnership
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11:30 - 11:32between NGOs, campaign groups,
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11:32 - 11:35civil society organizations
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11:35 - 11:38and multinational companies.
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11:38 - 11:41If we can put those two together in a safe space,
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11:41 - 11:43get them to work together,
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11:43 - 11:46we can deliver public goods right now,
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11:46 - 11:49or in extremely short supply.
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11:49 - 11:51This is a radical proposition,
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11:51 - 11:53and it's crazy to think
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11:53 - 11:56that if you're a 15-year-old Bangladeshi girl
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11:56 - 11:59leaving your rural village
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11:59 - 12:02to go and work in a factory in Dhaka --
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12:02 - 12:0522, 23, 24 dollars a month --
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12:07 - 12:10your best chance of enjoying rights at work
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12:10 - 12:12is if that factory is producing
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12:12 - 12:14for a brand name company
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12:14 - 12:16which has got a code of conduct
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12:16 - 12:19and made that code of conduct part of the contract.
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12:20 - 12:22It's crazy.
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12:22 - 12:24Multinationals are protecting human rights.
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12:24 - 12:26I know there's going to be disbelief.
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12:26 - 12:28You'll say, "How can we trust them?"
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12:28 - 12:30Well, we don't.
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12:30 - 12:32It's the old arms control phrase:
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12:32 - 12:34"Trust, but verify."
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12:34 - 12:36So we audit.
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12:36 - 12:39We take their supply chain, we take all the factory names,
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12:39 - 12:41we do a random sample,
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12:41 - 12:44we send inspectors on an unannounced basis
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12:44 - 12:46to inspect those facilities,
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12:46 - 12:48and then we publish the results.
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12:48 - 12:51Transparency is absolutely critical to this.
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12:52 - 12:55You can call yourself responsible,
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12:55 - 12:58but responsibility without accountability
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12:58 - 13:00often doesn't work.
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13:00 - 13:03So what we're doing is, we're not only enlisting the multinationals,
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13:03 - 13:06we're giving them the tools to deliver this public good --
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13:06 - 13:08respect for human rights --
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13:08 - 13:10and we're checking.
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13:10 - 13:12You don't need to believe me. You shouldn't believe me.
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13:12 - 13:15Go to the website. Look at the audit results.
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13:15 - 13:17Ask yourself, is this company behaving
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13:17 - 13:20in a socially responsible way?
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13:20 - 13:22Can I buy that product
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13:22 - 13:25without compromising my ethics?
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13:25 - 13:28That's the way the system works.
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13:30 - 13:32I hate the idea
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13:32 - 13:35that governments are not protecting human rights around the world.
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13:35 - 13:37I hate the idea
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13:37 - 13:39that governments have dropped this ball
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13:39 - 13:42and I can't get used to the idea
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13:42 - 13:45that somehow we can't get them to do their jobs.
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13:45 - 13:47I've been at this for 30 years,
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13:47 - 13:49and in that time I've seen
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13:49 - 13:52the ability, the commitment, the will of government
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13:52 - 13:54to do this decline,
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13:54 - 13:57and I don't see them making a comeback right now.
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13:57 - 13:59So we started out thinking
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13:59 - 14:01this was a stopgap measure.
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14:01 - 14:04We're now thinking that, in fact,
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14:04 - 14:06this is probably the start
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14:06 - 14:09of a new way of regulating and addressing
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14:09 - 14:11international challenges.
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14:11 - 14:14Call it network governance. Call it what you will.
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14:14 - 14:17The private actors,
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14:17 - 14:19companies and NGOs,
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14:19 - 14:21are going to have to get together
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14:21 - 14:23to face the major challenges we are going to face.
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14:23 - 14:25Just look at pandemics --
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14:25 - 14:28swine flu, bird flu, H1N1.
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14:28 - 14:30Look at the health systems in so many countries.
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14:30 - 14:32Do they have the resources
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14:32 - 14:35to face up to a serious pandemic?
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14:35 - 14:37No.
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14:37 - 14:40Could the private sector and NGOs
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14:40 - 14:42get together and marshal a response?
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14:42 - 14:44Absolutely.
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14:44 - 14:46What they lack is that safe space
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14:46 - 14:48to come together, agree
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14:48 - 14:50and move to action.
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14:50 - 14:53That's what we're trying to provide.
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14:54 - 14:56I know as well
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14:56 - 14:58that this often seems
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14:58 - 15:00like an overwhelming level of responsibility
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15:00 - 15:02for people to assume.
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15:02 - 15:04"You want me to deliver human rights
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15:04 - 15:06throughout my global supply chain.
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15:06 - 15:09There are thousands of suppliers in there."
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15:09 - 15:12It seems too daunting, too dangerous,
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15:12 - 15:14for any company to take on.
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15:14 - 15:16But there are companies.
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15:16 - 15:19We have 4,000 companies who are members.
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15:19 - 15:21Some of them are very, very large companies.
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15:21 - 15:23The sporting goods industry, in particular,
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15:23 - 15:26stepped up to the plate and have done it.
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15:26 - 15:29The example, the role model, is there.
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15:30 - 15:32And whenever we discuss
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15:32 - 15:34one of these problems that we have to address --
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15:34 - 15:37child labor in cottonseed farms in India --
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15:37 - 15:40this year we will monitor 50,000 cottonseed farms in India.
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15:41 - 15:43It seems overwhelming.
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15:43 - 15:46The numbers just make you want to zone out.
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15:46 - 15:49But we break it down to some basic realities.
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15:49 - 15:51And human rights
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15:51 - 15:54comes down to a very simple proposition:
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15:54 - 15:57can I give this person their dignity back?
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15:57 - 15:59Poor people,
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15:59 - 16:01people whose human rights have been violated --
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16:01 - 16:03the crux of that
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16:03 - 16:05is the loss of dignity,
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16:05 - 16:07the lack of dignity.
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16:07 - 16:10It starts with just giving people back their dignity.
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16:10 - 16:13I was sitting in a slum outside Gurgaon
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16:13 - 16:15just next to Delhi,
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16:15 - 16:18one of the flashiest, brightest new cities
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16:18 - 16:21popping up in India right now,
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16:21 - 16:23and I was talking to workers
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16:23 - 16:25who worked in garment sweatshops down the road,
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16:25 - 16:28and I asked them what message they would like me to take to the brands.
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16:29 - 16:32They didn't say money.
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16:32 - 16:35They said, "The people who employ us
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16:35 - 16:38treat us like we are less than human,
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16:38 - 16:40like we don't exist.
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16:40 - 16:43Please ask them to treat us like human beings."
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16:44 - 16:46That's my simple understanding of human rights.
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16:46 - 16:49That's my simple proposition to you,
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16:49 - 16:52my simple plea to every decision-maker
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16:52 - 16:54in this room, everybody out there.
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16:54 - 16:56We can all make a decision
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16:56 - 16:58to come together
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16:58 - 17:01and pick up the balls and run with the balls
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17:01 - 17:03that governments have dropped.
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17:03 - 17:05If we don't do it,
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17:05 - 17:07we're abandoning hope,
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17:07 - 17:10we're abandoning our essential humanity,
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17:10 - 17:12and I know that's not a place we want to be,
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17:12 - 17:14and we don't have to be there.
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17:14 - 17:16So I appeal to you.
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17:16 - 17:18Join us, come into that safe space,
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17:18 - 17:20and let's start to make this happen.
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17:20 - 17:22Thank you very much.
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17:22 - 17:25(Applause)
- Title:
- Making global labor fair
- Speaker:
- Auret van Heerden
- Description:
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Labor activist Auret van Heerden talks about the next frontier of workers' rights -- globalized industries where no single national body can keep workers safe and protected. How can we keep our global supply chains honest? Van Heerden makes the business case for fair labor.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 17:25
TED edited English subtitles for Making global labor fair | ||
TED added a translation |