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Hollow Knight's Dream Warrior Lore Explained

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    The main character from Hollow Knight is really
    good at killing things: Old men, newborn babies,
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    and yes, even people who are already dead.
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    Throughout Hallownest are numerous ghosts,
    remnant memories of travelers long gone.
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    There’s the gravedigger who died after falling
    into a grave.
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    There’s Millybug who died selling cookies,
    a dangerous profession indeed.
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    And then there’s Marissa, the butterfly
    who can be heard singing in the City of Tears.
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    All of these ghosts can be struck with the
    Dream Nail in exchange for essence.
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    Now this raises a slew of ethical questions
    about whether dream nailing a ghost is humane
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    or not.
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    Does the ghost constitute an actual conscious
    being?
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    Is being a ghost better than not existing
    at all?
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    Can they use their ghostly powers to shoot
    lightning out of the sky?
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    The ghosts in Hollow Knight might seem pretty
    random, but that’s because most of them
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    were actually characters designed by Kickstarter
    backers.
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    Hence why we get characters like this Guts
    knockoff, created by David Waldie and Kcin,
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    created by Nick.
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    But today, we’re going to look at one specific
    group of backer characters: the dream warriors.
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    One of the Kickstarter backer rewards was
    to create a dream boss that the player would
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    be able to fight.
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    There were originally ten backers for this
    tier, but only seven backers provided details
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    for characters.
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    What happened to the other three backers,
    you ask?
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    Well, that’s a good question.
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    These bosses don’t really give us any greater
    information about the lore of Hollow Knight,
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    but that hasn’t stopped literally billions
    of people from begging me to do a video on
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    them.
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    So without further ado, here is the Dream
    Warriors’ lore explained.
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    First up, we have Xero, created by Constant
    Pham.
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    This dream warrior is located in the Resting
    Grounds and will probably be the first dream
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    warrior new players find.
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    Xero dreamt of cutting down the infection
    in his dreams.
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    Because, you know, that’s how you fight
    infectious diseases.
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    Just give everybody swords, obviously.
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    But then Xero actually turned his nail against
    the Pale King, likely due to being infected
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    by the Radiance himself.
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    This resulted in him getting executed.
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    Before his betrayal, it seemed like Xero was
    actually a faithful soldier, fighting for
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    Hallownest and the Pale King.
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    What exactly was he fighting against?
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    Well, we hear about vague things like the
    Battle of the Blackwyrm, but other than that,
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    I don’t really know what Xero would have
    done.
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    Seems like those bugs building the tram in
    Deepnest could have used some military back
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    up, but what do I know?
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    Before the fight, Xero tells the Knight that
    those who hope are already doomed.
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    After the fight, however, he realizes that
    those who turn against the king are doomed
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    as soon as they raise their weapon.
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    Honestly I have no idea what this character’s
    arc is supposed to be.
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    But I guess character arcs don’t always
    have to make sense, so whatever.
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    Elder Hu was created by Donald Lynch.
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    He was a sage who traveled Hallownest tending
    to those afflicted by the infection.
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    Hu died in the Fungal Wastes nearby the Mantis
    Village.
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    He explains that the mantises below have become
    mad with the infection.
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    But of course, we know the Mantises weren’t
    infected.
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    So not only is Elder Hu dead.
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    But he’s also stupid.
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    After his defeat, Elder Hu comes to the realization
    that he was the one infected and that the
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    mantises actually killed him.
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    This is a common theme among all dream warriors.
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    They all think they are still alive when the
    Knight finds them.
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    This is actually different from how Team Cherry
    originally asked backers to write their dialogue.
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    From their original email explaining what
    details they needed from backers, Team Cherry
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    expected the dreamers to actually know they
    are dead.
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    Also, the dreamers were originally going to
    drop medals that had little messages attached
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    to them, which later became what we see in
    the Hunter’s journal.
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    Another interesting change made is the location
    of the Dream Warriors.
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    It appears the warriors were all going to
    be found in one location, the Queen’s Glade.
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    We can tell from an old development map of
    Hallownest that the Queen’s Glade was located
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    where the current day Ancient Basin is found,
    just below the White Palace foundation.
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    The Glade was guarded by Fierce Dryya, who
    was originally going to be a boss.
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    In other words, there would have been eleven
    boss fights in just this one spot of the map.
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    Honestly, I’m happy Team Cherry decided
    not to do this.
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    Putting the dream warriors in their own locations
    makes them feel more organic, like they actually
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    belong in the world.
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    Elder Hu appears to be based on the buddist
    tradition, as he wears mala, or prayer beads
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    around his neck.
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    I would normally say this feels out of place,
    but it seems like Team Cherry is actually
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    going to incorporate another character into
    Silksong who uses this same aesthetic: Shakra.
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    So it seems like we might get a little more
    information about whatever group Elder Hu
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    was a part of when Hollow Knight Silksong
    releases in 2054.
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    Galien was created by Zachary Virden and can
    be found in Deepnest.
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    Galien proclaimed himself as the strongest
    warrior in Hallownest and claims he is only
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    interested in fighting the Knight for the
    sake of jolly combat.
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    Galien traveled into Deepnest so that he could
    train himself by fighting the bugs found there.
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    But he was eventually killed off by the beasts.
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    What’s interesting about Galien is that
    he actually comments about seeing his own
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    body laying on the ground, but he doesn’t
    even recognize that it’s him.
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    That seems to confirm that ghosts are not
    just confused, but in denial about their own
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    deaths.
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    I mean, Wayner in the Spirit’s Glade is
    literally holding his head in his hands, and
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    still thinks he is alive.
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    Anyone who watches shows about real life,
    actual ghost hunting, knows that ghosts tend
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    to be human spirits trapped in the past, ignorant
    of the fact that they are ghosts.
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    Another kinda interesting but not really fact
    is that Galien is the only dream warrior to
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    actually use a physical weapon during combat.
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    The other dreamers just shoot magical projectiles
    or roll up into a ball or summon ghosts of
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    their dead babies to attack you.
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    Kinda makes me wonder how bugs like Xero and
    Gorb actually fought when they were alive.
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    Marmu was created by Zara Pellen, AKA William
    Pellen’s own mother.
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    Marmu acted as the protector of the Queen’s
    Garden, waiting patiently for the return of
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    her queen, presumably the White Lady.
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    Apparently the White Lady was going to teach
    Marmu how to fly… which seems kinda odd
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    considering the White Lady wouldn’t know
    the first thing about flying considering she
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    is literally a plant.
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    A root flying, what’s next?
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    Pigs walking on land?
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    Marmu appears to be based on a real life insect
    called a puss moth caterpillar.
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    This could be why Marmu talks about learning
    to fly, but this raises a lot of questions
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    about how we should examine Hollow Knight
    lore.
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    This would technically mean that Marmu is
    going to transform into a moth, but she doesn’t
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    seem to be related to the Moth tribe.
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    So are there groups of moths that wander around
    outside the moth tribe?
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    Does Marmu even care about dreams or the dead
    like the Moth Tribe did?
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    Can Marmu shoot fucking swords out of her
    face?
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    To me, it seems like Marmu really doesn’t
    have anything to do with Seer and her group.
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    Marmu being based on an insect that becomes
    a moth in real life doesn’t mean this character
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    has anything to do with the other moths.
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    There just isn’t a narrative or even aesthetic
    connection between them.
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    This same thing happens with grubs.
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    I always see comments from people trying to
    tell me that the grubs are going to turn into
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    little Radiances because they are caterpillars,
    and while that might make sense on the surface,
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    we know that grubs turn into Grubberflies,
    which is just a completely made up thing.
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    The biology of bugs in Hollow Knight doesn’t
    have to follow reality by any means.
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    For all we know Marmu might evolve into a
    2001 Honda Civic.
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    However, there is one Dream Warrior that is
    directly tied to the moth tribe, Markoth.
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    Markoth is unique to the moth tribe however,
    as he was one of the only members to take
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    up a weapon.
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    In fact, the only other moth we know of who
    did this is Thistlewind, another backer character
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    found in the Spirit’s Glade.
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    Thistlewind even mentions Markoth, making
    him the only Dream Warrior to ever be acknowledged
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    by anyone other than the Knight.
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    Markoth can be found on the outskirts of the
    Kingdom’s Edge.
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    Thistlewind says he came out here to uncover
    some forgotten truth.
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    Unfortunately, Markoth is too busy threatening
    us with death to tell us what he was looking
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    for.
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    Maybe he heard about the Wyrm corpse, or maybe
    he wanted to learn about the Hive, or maybe
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    he wanted to see what was beyond this stupid-ass
    tent.
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    I was lucky enough to get into contact with
    Samuel Dixon, the backer who originally designed
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    Markoth.
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    And Samuel was even able to provide me with
    his original instructions for Markoth that
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    he sent to Team Cherry.
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    If we compare Samuel’s dialogue to what
    made it into the final game, we can see that
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    Team Cherry kept Markoth’s battle-worn stoic
    personality.
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    However, after being defeated, Markoth gains
    some perspective in the final game, as opposed
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    to still being a complete dick.
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    Finally we can see that the dialogue for the
    emblem Markoth would have given you is similar
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    to the quote in the Hunter’s Journal.
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    According to Samuel, Markoth was supposed
    to position himself in the far corners of
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    the room, and then throw two nails and his
    shield at the Knight.
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    The Knight could then deal damage, which would
    prompt Markoth to move to a different corner
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    of the room.
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    In the final game, Markoth kinda just floats
    around wherever he wants like a fart in the
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    wind.
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    Samuel didn’t have any lore to share with
    me about Markoth, so whatever his connection
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    is to the lore of Hallownest, it appears to
    have been manufactured by Team Cherry themselves.
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    So unfortunately, we still don’t really
    know the finer details of what truth Markoth
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    was looking for.
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    There is another incredibly cryptic Dream
    Warrior that we really do need to discuss.
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    The deep and disturbing lore surrounding this
    character has haunted me for years now, and
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    I think it’s finally time we discussed them.
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    I am of course talking about Gorb.
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    A monument to Gorb can be found in the Howling
    Cliffs where he is described as “the Great
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    Mind”.
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    Gorb claimed to contain all of the world’s
    knowledge inside of his giant brain.
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    Gorb demanded that others bow to him and ascend
    with him.
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    What does it mean to “ascend with Gorb”
    exactly?
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    Was he handing out pamphlets or something?
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    A pretty common theory is that Gorb is actually
    a Godseeker.
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    This is because of visual similarities and
    the fact that the Godseeker also never shut
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    up about ascending.
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    However, I would say that Gorb appears to
    be more like a slug creature, while the Godseekers
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    appear to be bandaged up like mummies.
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    So we don’t really know what they look like
    underneath.
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    So that’s one point against the theory.
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    Also, apparently the Godseekers have absolutely
    beautiful faces underneath their masks, and
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    if we look at Gorb’s face…
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    Well actually, that checks out.
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    So what does the actual dialogue say about
    Gorb.
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    The Hunter’s Journal entry describes Gorb
    as being a mysterious life-form.
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    That’s a really interesting word to use.
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    Now obviously, any living thing is a life-form,
    but the connotation surrounding that word
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    is usually linked to extraterrestrial life.
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    So does this mean Gorb is some kind of alien?
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    That’s not all, the Hall of Gods also gives
    a pretty interesting description to Gorb,
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    calling him a “Dreamborn god of the beyond”.
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    What exactly is “the beyond”?
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    Could it be outer space?
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    Maybe ascending with Gorb is literally ascending
    in some kind of spaceship.
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    I mean, the architecture of Hallownest seems
    far too complex for simple bugs.
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    It would make much more sense if there was
    some advanced alien race helping build these
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    monuments.
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    All of the unexplainable aspects of Hollow
    Knight lore have any answer.
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    Where did Bretta go?
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    Aliens!
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    How did the Hollow Knight grow?
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    Aliens!
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    The Pentagon?
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    Aliens!
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    Now obviously, I am mostly joking, but there
    really isn’t much to go on with Gorb.
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    The concept of the mind, and using it to ascend
    is a noticeable theme in Hollow Knight.
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    But there doesn’t seem to be anything special
    about Gorb.
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    Gorb was created by Aladar Appaponyi.
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    Perhaps he could shed some light on why Gorb’s
    backstory is so incredibly vague and odd.
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    I was able to get into contact with Aladar,
    but apparently he didn’t really have a backstory
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    for Gorb.
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    He didn’t even give Gorb a name.
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    All he gave Team Cherry was this drawing.
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    This early version of Gorb was a slug that
    wielded a nail in his mouth.
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    The idea was that he tricked the player into
    thinking he was weak, but in reality he had
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    great defense.
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    So it seems all of Gorb’s strange alien
    nonsense came from Team Cherry themselves.
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    This leaves us with one final Dream Warrior:
    No Eyes.
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    No Eyes can be found in the Stone Sanctuary
    in Greenpath.
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    She was a warrior who disappeared during the
    infection.
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    Out of all the dream warriors in the game,
    I’d say No Eyes is the most interesting
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    and the most cryptic.
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    No Eyes was first revealed in a Kickstarter
    update where Team Cherry explained that her
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    backstory was one of the most disturbing bits
    of fiction they had ever read.
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    Unfortunately, they didn’t share any details
    on what her original backstory is, but luckily
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    someone on Reddit was able to contact the
    original backer, Liza Kretzschmar, and provide
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    us with No Eyes’ backstory.
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    According to the reddit post, No Eyes was
    off on a quest when the infection spread throughout
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    Hallownest.
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    She had left her children behind, thinking
    they would be safe.
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    When she returned, she refused to believe
    that her children could have been killed by
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    the infection, so she ran inside the sanctuary
    to get them out safely.
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    She found them inside, both maddened and hungry.
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    No Eyes tried to pick up some of her children,
    but they swarmed her, devouring her eyes along
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    with the rest of her body.
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    No Eyes’ ghost would warn the player to
    stay away from the sanctuary.
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    Her nursery rhyme that she sings was supposed
    to actually be instructions on how the player
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    needs to move throughout the room in order
    to avoid getting hit by the children.
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    The whole battle was just avoiding the ghosts
    until all the rounds were finished.
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    Of course in the final game, the ghosts are
    just the way No Eyes attacks as she teleports
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    around the room.
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    And the nursery rhyme is just gibberish...
    creepy gibberish.
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    This backstory kinda makes sense with No Eyes’
    quote in the Hunter’s Journal which reads
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    “They’re coming…
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    What’s inside of you….
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    Strip it out!”.
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    It appears as though No Eyes is warning others
    about her children coming to eat their eyes
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    out.
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    When the Knight interacts with her, she seems
    to think the Knight is one of her children
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    at first.
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    We’ve seen this before that sometimes ghosts
    don’t really understand what they are looking
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    at and… well No Eyes is fucking blind.
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    So she’d probably think anyone who walked
    in there would be her child.
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    And she starts by saying “Please, don’t
    hurt me!”
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    Which reinforced the idea that her children
    attacked her.
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    But then the dialogue takes a bit of a turn.
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    No Eyes says that the Knight can’t sleep
    with its eyes open, and it can’t dream if
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    it’s still breathing.
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    Judging by the sentence structure here, No
    Eyes wants the Knight to stop breathing so
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    it can dream.
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    There’s a pretty strong parallel to the
    Radiance here, especially when we look at
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    No Eyes other dialogue.
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    So this means No Eyes might have succumbed
    to the Infection.
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    We know that Xero and Elder Hu met similar
    fates, but this isn’t guaranteed for all
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    dream warriors.
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    Galien died because he was a moron, and Gorb
    probably died from a coke overdose.
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    So it might be that No Eyes was infected,
    and then decided to strip the eyes out of
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    her children so that they could sleep and
    dream too.
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    That would explain why the ghosts she summons
    also appear to be missing their eyes.
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    We can tell from No Eyes’ next line that
    this resulted in her children saying loathsome
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    things while they slept.
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    This might be a reference to the fact that
    these bugs’ ghosts still haunt the Stone
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    Sanctuary.
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    Another explanation is that No Eyes tore everyone's
    eyes out as a preemptive measure to try and
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    stop the infection from getting to them.
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    Basically she’s blinded all her kids out
    of fear, but ultimately they all still perished.
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    After the battle with the Knight, we see that
    all of these spirits are finally put to rest,
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    and No Eyes embraces being taken to a place
    where the Radiance’s light and dreams can’t
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    haunt her and her children anymore.
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    I’m not really sure how the line “They’re
    coming…” fits into either of these two
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    interpretations though.
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    Who are “they” if not No Eyes’ children?
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    The Radiance?
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    Other infected bugs?
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    Regardless, it does seem like Team Cherry
    tweaked the Liza’s original story at least
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    a bit.
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    And that’s pretty much all I have to say
    about the dream warriors.
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    They haven’t been discussed much on this
    channel, but that’s mainly just because
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    they are pretty inconsequential to anything
    that actually happens, unlike say a character
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    like Menderbug.
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    Of course, there’s nothing wrong with that.
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    Small, pointless details are what make Hollow
    Knight such an amazing game.
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    Like how the bench in the Archive has Monomon’s
    face on it.
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    Or how the Glowing Womb bugs turn into little
    turds when you have the Defender’s Crest
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    equipped.
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    Or how the Nailsmith’s rotting corpse can
    be found in the junk pit.
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    Amazing.
  • 17:40 - 17:44
    By the way, have you ever heard of a little
    hellhole called Discord?
  • 17:45 - 17:50
    If so, maybe you’d like to check out my
    new Discord server called mossbag & friends.
  • 17:50 - 17:55
    There, you can talk about all things Hollow
    Knight or mossbag related.
  • 17:55 - 17:58
    Like discussing the moral implications of
    dream nailing ghosts.
  • 17:58 - 18:03
    Or bitching about how the latest Indie World
    presentation didn’t shadow drop Silksong.
  • 18:03 - 18:09
    We even have some amazing invite and banner
    art created by ZamZam and Yoclesh.
  • 18:09 - 18:13
    So please, check the link in the description
    if you’re interested, and let’s see how
  • 18:13 - 18:16
    long it takes before I regret ever creating
    this server.
  • 18:16 - 18:18
    I’m thinking….
  • 18:18 - 18:18
    April.
Title:
Hollow Knight's Dream Warrior Lore Explained
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