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The main character from Hollow Knight is really
good at killing things: Old men, newborn babies,
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and yes, even people who are already dead.
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Throughout Hallownest are numerous ghosts,
remnant memories of travelers long gone.
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There’s the gravedigger who died after falling
into a grave.
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There’s Millybug who died selling cookies,
a dangerous profession indeed.
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And then there’s Marissa, the butterfly
who can be heard singing in the City of Tears.
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All of these ghosts can be struck with the
Dream Nail in exchange for essence.
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Now this raises a slew of ethical questions
about whether dream nailing a ghost is humane
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or not.
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Does the ghost constitute an actual conscious
being?
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Is being a ghost better than not existing
at all?
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Can they use their ghostly powers to shoot
lightning out of the sky?
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The ghosts in Hollow Knight might seem pretty
random, but that’s because most of them
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were actually characters designed by Kickstarter
backers.
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Hence why we get characters like this Guts
knockoff, created by David Waldie and Kcin,
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created by Nick.
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But today, we’re going to look at one specific
group of backer characters: the dream warriors.
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One of the Kickstarter backer rewards was
to create a dream boss that the player would
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be able to fight.
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There were originally ten backers for this
tier, but only seven backers provided details
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for characters.
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What happened to the other three backers,
you ask?
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Well, that’s a good question.
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These bosses don’t really give us any greater
information about the lore of Hollow Knight,
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but that hasn’t stopped literally billions
of people from begging me to do a video on
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them.
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So without further ado, here is the Dream
Warriors’ lore explained.
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First up, we have Xero, created by Constant
Pham.
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This dream warrior is located in the Resting
Grounds and will probably be the first dream
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warrior new players find.
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Xero dreamt of cutting down the infection
in his dreams.
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Because, you know, that’s how you fight
infectious diseases.
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Just give everybody swords, obviously.
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But then Xero actually turned his nail against
the Pale King, likely due to being infected
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by the Radiance himself.
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This resulted in him getting executed.
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Before his betrayal, it seemed like Xero was
actually a faithful soldier, fighting for
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Hallownest and the Pale King.
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What exactly was he fighting against?
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Well, we hear about vague things like the
Battle of the Blackwyrm, but other than that,
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I don’t really know what Xero would have
done.
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Seems like those bugs building the tram in
Deepnest could have used some military back
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up, but what do I know?
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Before the fight, Xero tells the Knight that
those who hope are already doomed.
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After the fight, however, he realizes that
those who turn against the king are doomed
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as soon as they raise their weapon.
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Honestly I have no idea what this character’s
arc is supposed to be.
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But I guess character arcs don’t always
have to make sense, so whatever.
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Elder Hu was created by Donald Lynch.
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He was a sage who traveled Hallownest tending
to those afflicted by the infection.
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Hu died in the Fungal Wastes nearby the Mantis
Village.
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He explains that the mantises below have become
mad with the infection.
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But of course, we know the Mantises weren’t
infected.
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So not only is Elder Hu dead.
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But he’s also stupid.
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After his defeat, Elder Hu comes to the realization
that he was the one infected and that the
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mantises actually killed him.
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This is a common theme among all dream warriors.
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They all think they are still alive when the
Knight finds them.
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This is actually different from how Team Cherry
originally asked backers to write their dialogue.
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From their original email explaining what
details they needed from backers, Team Cherry
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expected the dreamers to actually know they
are dead.
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Also, the dreamers were originally going to
drop medals that had little messages attached
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to them, which later became what we see in
the Hunter’s journal.
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Another interesting change made is the location
of the Dream Warriors.
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It appears the warriors were all going to
be found in one location, the Queen’s Glade.
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We can tell from an old development map of
Hallownest that the Queen’s Glade was located
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where the current day Ancient Basin is found,
just below the White Palace foundation.
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The Glade was guarded by Fierce Dryya, who
was originally going to be a boss.
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In other words, there would have been eleven
boss fights in just this one spot of the map.
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Honestly, I’m happy Team Cherry decided
not to do this.
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Putting the dream warriors in their own locations
makes them feel more organic, like they actually
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belong in the world.
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Elder Hu appears to be based on the buddist
tradition, as he wears mala, or prayer beads
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around his neck.
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I would normally say this feels out of place,
but it seems like Team Cherry is actually
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going to incorporate another character into
Silksong who uses this same aesthetic: Shakra.
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So it seems like we might get a little more
information about whatever group Elder Hu
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was a part of when Hollow Knight Silksong
releases in 2054.
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Galien was created by Zachary Virden and can
be found in Deepnest.
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Galien proclaimed himself as the strongest
warrior in Hallownest and claims he is only
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interested in fighting the Knight for the
sake of jolly combat.
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Galien traveled into Deepnest so that he could
train himself by fighting the bugs found there.
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But he was eventually killed off by the beasts.
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What’s interesting about Galien is that
he actually comments about seeing his own
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body laying on the ground, but he doesn’t
even recognize that it’s him.
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That seems to confirm that ghosts are not
just confused, but in denial about their own
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deaths.
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I mean, Wayner in the Spirit’s Glade is
literally holding his head in his hands, and
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still thinks he is alive.
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Anyone who watches shows about real life,
actual ghost hunting, knows that ghosts tend
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to be human spirits trapped in the past, ignorant
of the fact that they are ghosts.
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Another kinda interesting but not really fact
is that Galien is the only dream warrior to
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actually use a physical weapon during combat.
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The other dreamers just shoot magical projectiles
or roll up into a ball or summon ghosts of
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their dead babies to attack you.
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Kinda makes me wonder how bugs like Xero and
Gorb actually fought when they were alive.
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Marmu was created by Zara Pellen, AKA William
Pellen’s own mother.
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Marmu acted as the protector of the Queen’s
Garden, waiting patiently for the return of
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her queen, presumably the White Lady.
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Apparently the White Lady was going to teach
Marmu how to fly… which seems kinda odd
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considering the White Lady wouldn’t know
the first thing about flying considering she
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is literally a plant.
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A root flying, what’s next?
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Pigs walking on land?
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Marmu appears to be based on a real life insect
called a puss moth caterpillar.
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This could be why Marmu talks about learning
to fly, but this raises a lot of questions
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about how we should examine Hollow Knight
lore.
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This would technically mean that Marmu is
going to transform into a moth, but she doesn’t
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seem to be related to the Moth tribe.
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So are there groups of moths that wander around
outside the moth tribe?
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Does Marmu even care about dreams or the dead
like the Moth Tribe did?
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Can Marmu shoot fucking swords out of her
face?
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To me, it seems like Marmu really doesn’t
have anything to do with Seer and her group.
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Marmu being based on an insect that becomes
a moth in real life doesn’t mean this character
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has anything to do with the other moths.
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There just isn’t a narrative or even aesthetic
connection between them.
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This same thing happens with grubs.
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I always see comments from people trying to
tell me that the grubs are going to turn into
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little Radiances because they are caterpillars,
and while that might make sense on the surface,
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we know that grubs turn into Grubberflies,
which is just a completely made up thing.
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The biology of bugs in Hollow Knight doesn’t
have to follow reality by any means.
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For all we know Marmu might evolve into a
2001 Honda Civic.
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However, there is one Dream Warrior that is
directly tied to the moth tribe, Markoth.
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Markoth is unique to the moth tribe however,
as he was one of the only members to take
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up a weapon.
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In fact, the only other moth we know of who
did this is Thistlewind, another backer character
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found in the Spirit’s Glade.
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Thistlewind even mentions Markoth, making
him the only Dream Warrior to ever be acknowledged
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by anyone other than the Knight.
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Markoth can be found on the outskirts of the
Kingdom’s Edge.
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Thistlewind says he came out here to uncover
some forgotten truth.
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Unfortunately, Markoth is too busy threatening
us with death to tell us what he was looking
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for.
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Maybe he heard about the Wyrm corpse, or maybe
he wanted to learn about the Hive, or maybe
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he wanted to see what was beyond this stupid-ass
tent.
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I was lucky enough to get into contact with
Samuel Dixon, the backer who originally designed
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Markoth.
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And Samuel was even able to provide me with
his original instructions for Markoth that
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he sent to Team Cherry.
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If we compare Samuel’s dialogue to what
made it into the final game, we can see that
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Team Cherry kept Markoth’s battle-worn stoic
personality.
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However, after being defeated, Markoth gains
some perspective in the final game, as opposed
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to still being a complete dick.
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Finally we can see that the dialogue for the
emblem Markoth would have given you is similar
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to the quote in the Hunter’s Journal.
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According to Samuel, Markoth was supposed
to position himself in the far corners of
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the room, and then throw two nails and his
shield at the Knight.
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The Knight could then deal damage, which would
prompt Markoth to move to a different corner
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of the room.
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In the final game, Markoth kinda just floats
around wherever he wants like a fart in the
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wind.
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Samuel didn’t have any lore to share with
me about Markoth, so whatever his connection
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is to the lore of Hallownest, it appears to
have been manufactured by Team Cherry themselves.
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So unfortunately, we still don’t really
know the finer details of what truth Markoth
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was looking for.
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There is another incredibly cryptic Dream
Warrior that we really do need to discuss.
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The deep and disturbing lore surrounding this
character has haunted me for years now, and
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I think it’s finally time we discussed them.
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I am of course talking about Gorb.
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A monument to Gorb can be found in the Howling
Cliffs where he is described as “the Great
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Mind”.
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Gorb claimed to contain all of the world’s
knowledge inside of his giant brain.
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Gorb demanded that others bow to him and ascend
with him.
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What does it mean to “ascend with Gorb”
exactly?
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Was he handing out pamphlets or something?
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A pretty common theory is that Gorb is actually
a Godseeker.
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This is because of visual similarities and
the fact that the Godseeker also never shut
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up about ascending.
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However, I would say that Gorb appears to
be more like a slug creature, while the Godseekers
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appear to be bandaged up like mummies.
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So we don’t really know what they look like
underneath.
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So that’s one point against the theory.
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Also, apparently the Godseekers have absolutely
beautiful faces underneath their masks, and
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if we look at Gorb’s face…
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Well actually, that checks out.
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So what does the actual dialogue say about
Gorb.
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The Hunter’s Journal entry describes Gorb
as being a mysterious life-form.
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That’s a really interesting word to use.
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Now obviously, any living thing is a life-form,
but the connotation surrounding that word
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is usually linked to extraterrestrial life.
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So does this mean Gorb is some kind of alien?
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That’s not all, the Hall of Gods also gives
a pretty interesting description to Gorb,
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calling him a “Dreamborn god of the beyond”.
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What exactly is “the beyond”?
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Could it be outer space?
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Maybe ascending with Gorb is literally ascending
in some kind of spaceship.
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I mean, the architecture of Hallownest seems
far too complex for simple bugs.
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It would make much more sense if there was
some advanced alien race helping build these
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monuments.
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All of the unexplainable aspects of Hollow
Knight lore have any answer.
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Where did Bretta go?
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Aliens!
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How did the Hollow Knight grow?
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Aliens!
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The Pentagon?
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Aliens!
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Now obviously, I am mostly joking, but there
really isn’t much to go on with Gorb.
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The concept of the mind, and using it to ascend
is a noticeable theme in Hollow Knight.
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But there doesn’t seem to be anything special
about Gorb.
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Gorb was created by Aladar Appaponyi.
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Perhaps he could shed some light on why Gorb’s
backstory is so incredibly vague and odd.
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I was able to get into contact with Aladar,
but apparently he didn’t really have a backstory
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for Gorb.
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He didn’t even give Gorb a name.
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All he gave Team Cherry was this drawing.
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This early version of Gorb was a slug that
wielded a nail in his mouth.
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The idea was that he tricked the player into
thinking he was weak, but in reality he had
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great defense.
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So it seems all of Gorb’s strange alien
nonsense came from Team Cherry themselves.
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This leaves us with one final Dream Warrior:
No Eyes.
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No Eyes can be found in the Stone Sanctuary
in Greenpath.
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She was a warrior who disappeared during the
infection.
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Out of all the dream warriors in the game,
I’d say No Eyes is the most interesting
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and the most cryptic.
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No Eyes was first revealed in a Kickstarter
update where Team Cherry explained that her
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backstory was one of the most disturbing bits
of fiction they had ever read.
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Unfortunately, they didn’t share any details
on what her original backstory is, but luckily
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someone on Reddit was able to contact the
original backer, Liza Kretzschmar, and provide
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us with No Eyes’ backstory.
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According to the reddit post, No Eyes was
off on a quest when the infection spread throughout
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Hallownest.
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She had left her children behind, thinking
they would be safe.
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When she returned, she refused to believe
that her children could have been killed by
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the infection, so she ran inside the sanctuary
to get them out safely.
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She found them inside, both maddened and hungry.
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No Eyes tried to pick up some of her children,
but they swarmed her, devouring her eyes along
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with the rest of her body.
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No Eyes’ ghost would warn the player to
stay away from the sanctuary.
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Her nursery rhyme that she sings was supposed
to actually be instructions on how the player
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needs to move throughout the room in order
to avoid getting hit by the children.
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The whole battle was just avoiding the ghosts
until all the rounds were finished.
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Of course in the final game, the ghosts are
just the way No Eyes attacks as she teleports
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around the room.
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And the nursery rhyme is just gibberish...
creepy gibberish.
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This backstory kinda makes sense with No Eyes’
quote in the Hunter’s Journal which reads
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“They’re coming…
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What’s inside of you….
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Strip it out!”.
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It appears as though No Eyes is warning others
about her children coming to eat their eyes
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out.
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When the Knight interacts with her, she seems
to think the Knight is one of her children
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at first.
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We’ve seen this before that sometimes ghosts
don’t really understand what they are looking
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at and… well No Eyes is fucking blind.
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So she’d probably think anyone who walked
in there would be her child.
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And she starts by saying “Please, don’t
hurt me!”
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Which reinforced the idea that her children
attacked her.
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But then the dialogue takes a bit of a turn.
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No Eyes says that the Knight can’t sleep
with its eyes open, and it can’t dream if
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it’s still breathing.
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Judging by the sentence structure here, No
Eyes wants the Knight to stop breathing so
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it can dream.
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There’s a pretty strong parallel to the
Radiance here, especially when we look at
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No Eyes other dialogue.
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So this means No Eyes might have succumbed
to the Infection.
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We know that Xero and Elder Hu met similar
fates, but this isn’t guaranteed for all
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dream warriors.
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Galien died because he was a moron, and Gorb
probably died from a coke overdose.
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So it might be that No Eyes was infected,
and then decided to strip the eyes out of
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her children so that they could sleep and
dream too.
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That would explain why the ghosts she summons
also appear to be missing their eyes.
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We can tell from No Eyes’ next line that
this resulted in her children saying loathsome
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things while they slept.
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This might be a reference to the fact that
these bugs’ ghosts still haunt the Stone
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Sanctuary.
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Another explanation is that No Eyes tore everyone's
eyes out as a preemptive measure to try and
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stop the infection from getting to them.
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Basically she’s blinded all her kids out
of fear, but ultimately they all still perished.
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After the battle with the Knight, we see that
all of these spirits are finally put to rest,
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and No Eyes embraces being taken to a place
where the Radiance’s light and dreams can’t
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haunt her and her children anymore.
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I’m not really sure how the line “They’re
coming…” fits into either of these two
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interpretations though.
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Who are “they” if not No Eyes’ children?
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The Radiance?
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Other infected bugs?
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Regardless, it does seem like Team Cherry
tweaked the Liza’s original story at least
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a bit.
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And that’s pretty much all I have to say
about the dream warriors.
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They haven’t been discussed much on this
channel, but that’s mainly just because
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they are pretty inconsequential to anything
that actually happens, unlike say a character
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like Menderbug.
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Of course, there’s nothing wrong with that.
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Small, pointless details are what make Hollow
Knight such an amazing game.
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Like how the bench in the Archive has Monomon’s
face on it.
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Or how the Glowing Womb bugs turn into little
turds when you have the Defender’s Crest
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equipped.
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Or how the Nailsmith’s rotting corpse can
be found in the junk pit.
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Amazing.
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By the way, have you ever heard of a little
hellhole called Discord?
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If so, maybe you’d like to check out my
new Discord server called mossbag & friends.
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There, you can talk about all things Hollow
Knight or mossbag related.
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Like discussing the moral implications of
dream nailing ghosts.
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Or bitching about how the latest Indie World
presentation didn’t shadow drop Silksong.
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We even have some amazing invite and banner
art created by ZamZam and Yoclesh.
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So please, check the link in the description
if you’re interested, and let’s see how
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long it takes before I regret ever creating
this server.
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I’m thinking….
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April.