WEBVTT 00:00:10.940 --> 00:00:17.830 The main character from Hollow Knight is really good at killing things: Old men, newborn babies, 00:00:17.830 --> 00:00:20.930 and yes, even people who are already dead. 00:00:20.930 --> 00:00:25.260 Throughout Hallownest are numerous ghosts, remnant memories of travelers long gone. 00:00:25.260 --> 00:00:29.160 There’s the gravedigger who died after falling into a grave. 00:00:29.160 --> 00:00:34.300 There’s Millybug who died selling cookies, a dangerous profession indeed. 00:00:34.300 --> 00:00:38.989 And then there’s Marissa, the butterfly who can be heard singing in the City of Tears. 00:00:38.989 --> 00:00:43.899 All of these ghosts can be struck with the Dream Nail in exchange for essence. 00:00:43.899 --> 00:00:48.469 Now this raises a slew of ethical questions about whether dream nailing a ghost is humane 00:00:48.469 --> 00:00:49.600 or not. 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:51.601 Does the ghost constitute an actual conscious being? 00:00:51.601 --> 00:00:55.379 Is being a ghost better than not existing at all? 00:00:55.379 --> 00:00:59.500 Can they use their ghostly powers to shoot lightning out of the sky? 00:00:59.500 --> 00:01:03.170 The ghosts in Hollow Knight might seem pretty random, but that’s because most of them 00:01:03.170 --> 00:01:06.800 were actually characters designed by Kickstarter backers. 00:01:06.800 --> 00:01:13.870 Hence why we get characters like this Guts knockoff, created by David Waldie and Kcin, 00:01:13.870 --> 00:01:16.410 created by Nick. 00:01:16.410 --> 00:01:22.320 But today, we’re going to look at one specific group of backer characters: the dream warriors. 00:01:22.320 --> 00:01:26.190 One of the Kickstarter backer rewards was to create a dream boss that the player would 00:01:26.190 --> 00:01:27.650 be able to fight. 00:01:27.650 --> 00:01:32.300 There were originally ten backers for this tier, but only seven backers provided details 00:01:32.300 --> 00:01:33.830 for characters. 00:01:33.830 --> 00:01:36.620 What happened to the other three backers, you ask? 00:01:36.620 --> 00:01:39.270 Well, that’s a good question. 00:01:39.270 --> 00:01:42.800 These bosses don’t really give us any greater information about the lore of Hollow Knight, 00:01:42.800 --> 00:01:47.360 but that hasn’t stopped literally billions of people from begging me to do a video on 00:01:47.360 --> 00:01:48.360 them. 00:01:48.360 --> 00:01:55.290 So without further ado, here is the Dream Warriors’ lore explained. 00:01:55.290 --> 00:01:59.080 First up, we have Xero, created by Constant Pham. 00:01:59.080 --> 00:02:03.280 This dream warrior is located in the Resting Grounds and will probably be the first dream 00:02:03.280 --> 00:02:05.340 warrior new players find. 00:02:05.340 --> 00:02:08.200 Xero dreamt of cutting down the infection in his dreams. 00:02:08.200 --> 00:02:12.400 Because, you know, that’s how you fight infectious diseases. 00:02:12.400 --> 00:02:15.080 Just give everybody swords, obviously. 00:02:15.080 --> 00:02:19.569 But then Xero actually turned his nail against the Pale King, likely due to being infected 00:02:19.569 --> 00:02:21.670 by the Radiance himself. 00:02:21.670 --> 00:02:23.500 This resulted in him getting executed. 00:02:23.500 --> 00:02:28.200 Before his betrayal, it seemed like Xero was actually a faithful soldier, fighting for 00:02:28.200 --> 00:02:30.440 Hallownest and the Pale King. 00:02:30.440 --> 00:02:32.400 What exactly was he fighting against? 00:02:32.400 --> 00:02:37.670 Well, we hear about vague things like the Battle of the Blackwyrm, but other than that, 00:02:37.670 --> 00:02:40.620 I don’t really know what Xero would have done. 00:02:40.620 --> 00:02:44.130 Seems like those bugs building the tram in Deepnest could have used some military back 00:02:44.130 --> 00:02:46.300 up, but what do I know? 00:02:46.300 --> 00:02:50.610 Before the fight, Xero tells the Knight that those who hope are already doomed. 00:02:50.610 --> 00:02:55.130 After the fight, however, he realizes that those who turn against the king are doomed 00:02:55.130 --> 00:02:56.810 as soon as they raise their weapon. 00:02:56.810 --> 00:03:01.470 Honestly I have no idea what this character’s arc is supposed to be. 00:03:01.470 --> 00:03:07.370 But I guess character arcs don’t always have to make sense, so whatever. 00:03:07.370 --> 00:03:09.890 Elder Hu was created by Donald Lynch. 00:03:09.890 --> 00:03:13.750 He was a sage who traveled Hallownest tending to those afflicted by the infection. 00:03:13.750 --> 00:03:17.470 Hu died in the Fungal Wastes nearby the Mantis Village. 00:03:17.470 --> 00:03:20.920 He explains that the mantises below have become mad with the infection. 00:03:20.920 --> 00:03:24.770 But of course, we know the Mantises weren’t infected. 00:03:24.770 --> 00:03:26.950 So not only is Elder Hu dead. 00:03:26.950 --> 00:03:28.190 But he’s also stupid. 00:03:28.190 --> 00:03:33.310 After his defeat, Elder Hu comes to the realization that he was the one infected and that the 00:03:33.310 --> 00:03:35.820 mantises actually killed him. 00:03:35.820 --> 00:03:39.140 This is a common theme among all dream warriors. 00:03:39.140 --> 00:03:42.630 They all think they are still alive when the Knight finds them. 00:03:42.630 --> 00:03:47.670 This is actually different from how Team Cherry originally asked backers to write their dialogue. 00:03:47.670 --> 00:03:52.070 From their original email explaining what details they needed from backers, Team Cherry 00:03:52.070 --> 00:03:55.190 expected the dreamers to actually know they are dead. 00:03:55.190 --> 00:03:59.630 Also, the dreamers were originally going to drop medals that had little messages attached 00:03:59.630 --> 00:04:04.050 to them, which later became what we see in the Hunter’s journal. 00:04:04.050 --> 00:04:07.870 Another interesting change made is the location of the Dream Warriors. 00:04:07.870 --> 00:04:13.020 It appears the warriors were all going to be found in one location, the Queen’s Glade. 00:04:13.020 --> 00:04:17.090 We can tell from an old development map of Hallownest that the Queen’s Glade was located 00:04:17.090 --> 00:04:22.440 where the current day Ancient Basin is found, just below the White Palace foundation. 00:04:22.440 --> 00:04:26.820 The Glade was guarded by Fierce Dryya, who was originally going to be a boss. 00:04:26.820 --> 00:04:31.820 In other words, there would have been eleven boss fights in just this one spot of the map. 00:04:31.820 --> 00:04:35.150 Honestly, I’m happy Team Cherry decided not to do this. 00:04:35.150 --> 00:04:40.310 Putting the dream warriors in their own locations makes them feel more organic, like they actually 00:04:40.310 --> 00:04:42.440 belong in the world. 00:04:42.440 --> 00:04:47.620 Elder Hu appears to be based on the buddist tradition, as he wears mala, or prayer beads 00:04:47.620 --> 00:04:48.780 around his neck. 00:04:48.780 --> 00:04:52.910 I would normally say this feels out of place, but it seems like Team Cherry is actually 00:04:52.910 --> 00:04:59.340 going to incorporate another character into Silksong who uses this same aesthetic: Shakra. 00:04:59.340 --> 00:05:02.550 So it seems like we might get a little more information about whatever group Elder Hu 00:05:02.550 --> 00:05:10.520 was a part of when Hollow Knight Silksong releases in 2054. 00:05:10.520 --> 00:05:14.570 Galien was created by Zachary Virden and can be found in Deepnest. 00:05:14.570 --> 00:05:19.080 Galien proclaimed himself as the strongest warrior in Hallownest and claims he is only 00:05:19.080 --> 00:05:22.940 interested in fighting the Knight for the sake of jolly combat. 00:05:22.940 --> 00:05:27.600 Galien traveled into Deepnest so that he could train himself by fighting the bugs found there. 00:05:27.600 --> 00:05:29.880 But he was eventually killed off by the beasts. 00:05:29.880 --> 00:05:33.750 What’s interesting about Galien is that he actually comments about seeing his own 00:05:33.750 --> 00:05:37.889 body laying on the ground, but he doesn’t even recognize that it’s him. 00:05:37.889 --> 00:05:42.570 That seems to confirm that ghosts are not just confused, but in denial about their own 00:05:42.570 --> 00:05:43.570 deaths. 00:05:43.570 --> 00:05:48.240 I mean, Wayner in the Spirit’s Glade is literally holding his head in his hands, and 00:05:48.240 --> 00:05:50.510 still thinks he is alive. 00:05:50.510 --> 00:05:55.229 Anyone who watches shows about real life, actual ghost hunting, knows that ghosts tend 00:05:55.229 --> 00:06:00.500 to be human spirits trapped in the past, ignorant of the fact that they are ghosts. 00:06:00.500 --> 00:06:04.820 Another kinda interesting but not really fact is that Galien is the only dream warrior to 00:06:04.820 --> 00:06:08.120 actually use a physical weapon during combat. 00:06:08.120 --> 00:06:13.900 The other dreamers just shoot magical projectiles or roll up into a ball or summon ghosts of 00:06:13.900 --> 00:06:15.610 their dead babies to attack you. 00:06:15.610 --> 00:06:23.240 Kinda makes me wonder how bugs like Xero and Gorb actually fought when they were alive. 00:06:23.240 --> 00:06:28.259 Marmu was created by Zara Pellen, AKA William Pellen’s own mother. 00:06:28.259 --> 00:06:32.449 Marmu acted as the protector of the Queen’s Garden, waiting patiently for the return of 00:06:32.449 --> 00:06:35.710 her queen, presumably the White Lady. 00:06:35.710 --> 00:06:39.840 Apparently the White Lady was going to teach Marmu how to fly… which seems kinda odd 00:06:39.840 --> 00:06:43.630 considering the White Lady wouldn’t know the first thing about flying considering she 00:06:43.630 --> 00:06:45.430 is literally a plant. 00:06:45.430 --> 00:06:47.940 A root flying, what’s next? 00:06:47.940 --> 00:06:49.930 Pigs walking on land? 00:06:49.930 --> 00:06:54.639 Marmu appears to be based on a real life insect called a puss moth caterpillar. 00:06:54.639 --> 00:06:59.270 This could be why Marmu talks about learning to fly, but this raises a lot of questions 00:06:59.270 --> 00:07:02.139 about how we should examine Hollow Knight lore. 00:07:02.139 --> 00:07:07.389 This would technically mean that Marmu is going to transform into a moth, but she doesn’t 00:07:07.389 --> 00:07:09.660 seem to be related to the Moth tribe. 00:07:09.660 --> 00:07:13.840 So are there groups of moths that wander around outside the moth tribe? 00:07:13.840 --> 00:07:17.780 Does Marmu even care about dreams or the dead like the Moth Tribe did? 00:07:17.780 --> 00:07:20.400 Can Marmu shoot fucking swords out of her face? 00:07:20.400 --> 00:07:24.830 To me, it seems like Marmu really doesn’t have anything to do with Seer and her group. 00:07:24.830 --> 00:07:29.289 Marmu being based on an insect that becomes a moth in real life doesn’t mean this character 00:07:29.289 --> 00:07:32.500 has anything to do with the other moths. 00:07:32.500 --> 00:07:36.700 There just isn’t a narrative or even aesthetic connection between them. 00:07:36.700 --> 00:07:38.330 This same thing happens with grubs. 00:07:38.330 --> 00:07:42.320 I always see comments from people trying to tell me that the grubs are going to turn into 00:07:42.320 --> 00:07:47.410 little Radiances because they are caterpillars, and while that might make sense on the surface, 00:07:47.410 --> 00:07:52.490 we know that grubs turn into Grubberflies, which is just a completely made up thing. 00:07:52.490 --> 00:07:57.080 The biology of bugs in Hollow Knight doesn’t have to follow reality by any means. 00:07:57.080 --> 00:08:01.400 For all we know Marmu might evolve into a 2001 Honda Civic. 00:08:01.400 --> 00:08:09.300 However, there is one Dream Warrior that is directly tied to the moth tribe, Markoth. 00:08:09.300 --> 00:08:13.730 Markoth is unique to the moth tribe however, as he was one of the only members to take 00:08:13.730 --> 00:08:14.910 up a weapon. 00:08:14.910 --> 00:08:19.900 In fact, the only other moth we know of who did this is Thistlewind, another backer character 00:08:19.900 --> 00:08:21.910 found in the Spirit’s Glade. 00:08:21.910 --> 00:08:26.530 Thistlewind even mentions Markoth, making him the only Dream Warrior to ever be acknowledged 00:08:26.530 --> 00:08:29.350 by anyone other than the Knight. 00:08:29.350 --> 00:08:32.490 Markoth can be found on the outskirts of the Kingdom’s Edge. 00:08:32.490 --> 00:08:36.610 Thistlewind says he came out here to uncover some forgotten truth. 00:08:36.610 --> 00:08:41.399 Unfortunately, Markoth is too busy threatening us with death to tell us what he was looking 00:08:41.399 --> 00:08:42.399 for. 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:47.480 Maybe he heard about the Wyrm corpse, or maybe he wanted to learn about the Hive, or maybe 00:08:47.480 --> 00:08:50.700 he wanted to see what was beyond this stupid-ass tent. 00:08:50.700 --> 00:08:56.000 I was lucky enough to get into contact with Samuel Dixon, the backer who originally designed 00:08:56.000 --> 00:08:57.000 Markoth. 00:08:57.000 --> 00:09:01.310 And Samuel was even able to provide me with his original instructions for Markoth that 00:09:01.310 --> 00:09:03.220 he sent to Team Cherry. 00:09:03.220 --> 00:09:07.590 If we compare Samuel’s dialogue to what made it into the final game, we can see that 00:09:07.590 --> 00:09:11.530 Team Cherry kept Markoth’s battle-worn stoic personality. 00:09:11.530 --> 00:09:17.180 However, after being defeated, Markoth gains some perspective in the final game, as opposed 00:09:17.180 --> 00:09:19.890 to still being a complete dick. 00:09:19.890 --> 00:09:23.730 Finally we can see that the dialogue for the emblem Markoth would have given you is similar 00:09:23.730 --> 00:09:26.250 to the quote in the Hunter’s Journal. 00:09:26.250 --> 00:09:30.420 According to Samuel, Markoth was supposed to position himself in the far corners of 00:09:30.420 --> 00:09:34.580 the room, and then throw two nails and his shield at the Knight. 00:09:34.580 --> 00:09:38.140 The Knight could then deal damage, which would prompt Markoth to move to a different corner 00:09:38.140 --> 00:09:39.339 of the room. 00:09:39.339 --> 00:09:44.050 In the final game, Markoth kinda just floats around wherever he wants like a fart in the 00:09:44.050 --> 00:09:45.050 wind. 00:09:45.050 --> 00:09:49.360 Samuel didn’t have any lore to share with me about Markoth, so whatever his connection 00:09:49.360 --> 00:09:54.250 is to the lore of Hallownest, it appears to have been manufactured by Team Cherry themselves. 00:09:54.250 --> 00:09:59.180 So unfortunately, we still don’t really know the finer details of what truth Markoth 00:09:59.180 --> 00:10:00.880 was looking for. 00:10:00.880 --> 00:10:05.810 There is another incredibly cryptic Dream Warrior that we really do need to discuss. 00:10:05.810 --> 00:10:10.540 The deep and disturbing lore surrounding this character has haunted me for years now, and 00:10:10.540 --> 00:10:12.890 I think it’s finally time we discussed them. 00:10:12.890 --> 00:10:16.820 I am of course talking about Gorb. 00:10:16.820 --> 00:10:22.810 A monument to Gorb can be found in the Howling Cliffs where he is described as “the Great 00:10:22.810 --> 00:10:23.810 Mind”. 00:10:23.810 --> 00:10:27.580 Gorb claimed to contain all of the world’s knowledge inside of his giant brain. 00:10:27.580 --> 00:10:31.640 Gorb demanded that others bow to him and ascend with him. 00:10:31.640 --> 00:10:34.620 What does it mean to “ascend with Gorb” exactly? 00:10:34.620 --> 00:10:37.410 Was he handing out pamphlets or something? 00:10:37.410 --> 00:10:41.040 A pretty common theory is that Gorb is actually a Godseeker. 00:10:41.040 --> 00:10:45.180 This is because of visual similarities and the fact that the Godseeker also never shut 00:10:45.180 --> 00:10:46.670 up about ascending. 00:10:46.670 --> 00:10:51.850 However, I would say that Gorb appears to be more like a slug creature, while the Godseekers 00:10:51.850 --> 00:10:54.290 appear to be bandaged up like mummies. 00:10:54.290 --> 00:10:57.010 So we don’t really know what they look like underneath. 00:10:57.010 --> 00:10:59.310 So that’s one point against the theory. 00:10:59.310 --> 00:11:04.610 Also, apparently the Godseekers have absolutely beautiful faces underneath their masks, and 00:11:04.610 --> 00:11:07.450 if we look at Gorb’s face… 00:11:07.450 --> 00:11:09.430 Well actually, that checks out. 00:11:09.430 --> 00:11:13.080 So what does the actual dialogue say about Gorb. 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:17.310 The Hunter’s Journal entry describes Gorb as being a mysterious life-form. 00:11:17.310 --> 00:11:21.019 That’s a really interesting word to use. 00:11:21.019 --> 00:11:26.670 Now obviously, any living thing is a life-form, but the connotation surrounding that word 00:11:26.670 --> 00:11:30.980 is usually linked to extraterrestrial life. 00:11:30.980 --> 00:11:33.570 So does this mean Gorb is some kind of alien? 00:11:33.570 --> 00:11:40.149 That’s not all, the Hall of Gods also gives a pretty interesting description to Gorb, 00:11:40.149 --> 00:11:44.339 calling him a “Dreamborn god of the beyond”. 00:11:44.339 --> 00:11:47.170 What exactly is “the beyond”? 00:11:47.170 --> 00:11:49.290 Could it be outer space? 00:11:49.290 --> 00:11:53.850 Maybe ascending with Gorb is literally ascending in some kind of spaceship. 00:11:53.850 --> 00:11:59.040 I mean, the architecture of Hallownest seems far too complex for simple bugs. 00:11:59.040 --> 00:12:03.790 It would make much more sense if there was some advanced alien race helping build these 00:12:03.790 --> 00:12:05.180 monuments. 00:12:05.180 --> 00:12:09.220 All of the unexplainable aspects of Hollow Knight lore have any answer. 00:12:09.220 --> 00:12:10.300 Where did Bretta go? 00:12:10.300 --> 00:12:11.300 Aliens! 00:12:11.300 --> 00:12:13.390 How did the Hollow Knight grow? 00:12:13.390 --> 00:12:14.390 Aliens! 00:12:14.390 --> 00:12:16.280 The Pentagon? 00:12:16.280 --> 00:12:17.280 Aliens! 00:12:17.280 --> 00:12:22.709 Now obviously, I am mostly joking, but there really isn’t much to go on with Gorb. 00:12:22.709 --> 00:12:28.800 The concept of the mind, and using it to ascend is a noticeable theme in Hollow Knight. 00:12:28.800 --> 00:12:32.760 But there doesn’t seem to be anything special about Gorb. 00:12:32.760 --> 00:12:35.750 Gorb was created by Aladar Appaponyi. 00:12:35.750 --> 00:12:40.310 Perhaps he could shed some light on why Gorb’s backstory is so incredibly vague and odd. 00:12:40.310 --> 00:12:45.020 I was able to get into contact with Aladar, but apparently he didn’t really have a backstory 00:12:45.020 --> 00:12:46.020 for Gorb. 00:12:46.020 --> 00:12:47.839 He didn’t even give Gorb a name. 00:12:47.839 --> 00:12:51.250 All he gave Team Cherry was this drawing. 00:12:51.250 --> 00:12:55.290 This early version of Gorb was a slug that wielded a nail in his mouth. 00:12:55.290 --> 00:12:59.720 The idea was that he tricked the player into thinking he was weak, but in reality he had 00:12:59.720 --> 00:13:01.610 great defense. 00:13:01.610 --> 00:13:07.870 So it seems all of Gorb’s strange alien nonsense came from Team Cherry themselves. 00:13:07.870 --> 00:13:14.779 This leaves us with one final Dream Warrior: No Eyes. 00:13:14.779 --> 00:13:18.380 No Eyes can be found in the Stone Sanctuary in Greenpath. 00:13:18.380 --> 00:13:21.540 She was a warrior who disappeared during the infection. 00:13:21.540 --> 00:13:25.450 Out of all the dream warriors in the game, I’d say No Eyes is the most interesting 00:13:25.450 --> 00:13:27.540 and the most cryptic. 00:13:27.540 --> 00:13:31.649 No Eyes was first revealed in a Kickstarter update where Team Cherry explained that her 00:13:31.649 --> 00:13:35.920 backstory was one of the most disturbing bits of fiction they had ever read. 00:13:35.920 --> 00:13:41.120 Unfortunately, they didn’t share any details on what her original backstory is, but luckily 00:13:41.120 --> 00:13:46.339 someone on Reddit was able to contact the original backer, Liza Kretzschmar, and provide 00:13:46.339 --> 00:13:48.769 us with No Eyes’ backstory. 00:13:48.769 --> 00:13:53.160 According to the reddit post, No Eyes was off on a quest when the infection spread throughout 00:13:53.160 --> 00:13:54.329 Hallownest. 00:13:54.329 --> 00:13:57.610 She had left her children behind, thinking they would be safe. 00:13:57.610 --> 00:14:01.120 When she returned, she refused to believe that her children could have been killed by 00:14:01.120 --> 00:14:05.470 the infection, so she ran inside the sanctuary to get them out safely. 00:14:05.470 --> 00:14:09.080 She found them inside, both maddened and hungry. 00:14:09.080 --> 00:14:14.120 No Eyes tried to pick up some of her children, but they swarmed her, devouring her eyes along 00:14:14.120 --> 00:14:16.110 with the rest of her body. 00:14:16.110 --> 00:14:20.339 No Eyes’ ghost would warn the player to stay away from the sanctuary. 00:14:20.339 --> 00:14:24.339 Her nursery rhyme that she sings was supposed to actually be instructions on how the player 00:14:24.339 --> 00:14:29.160 needs to move throughout the room in order to avoid getting hit by the children. 00:14:29.160 --> 00:14:33.279 The whole battle was just avoiding the ghosts until all the rounds were finished. 00:14:33.279 --> 00:14:38.029 Of course in the final game, the ghosts are just the way No Eyes attacks as she teleports 00:14:38.029 --> 00:14:39.029 around the room. 00:14:39.029 --> 00:14:49.760 And the nursery rhyme is just gibberish... creepy gibberish. 00:14:49.760 --> 00:14:53.990 This backstory kinda makes sense with No Eyes’ quote in the Hunter’s Journal which reads 00:14:53.990 --> 00:14:55.150 “They’re coming… 00:14:55.150 --> 00:14:56.910 What’s inside of you…. 00:14:56.910 --> 00:14:57.910 Strip it out!”. 00:14:57.910 --> 00:15:01.930 It appears as though No Eyes is warning others about her children coming to eat their eyes 00:15:01.930 --> 00:15:02.930 out. 00:15:02.930 --> 00:15:06.750 When the Knight interacts with her, she seems to think the Knight is one of her children 00:15:06.750 --> 00:15:07.750 at first. 00:15:07.750 --> 00:15:11.110 We’ve seen this before that sometimes ghosts don’t really understand what they are looking 00:15:11.110 --> 00:15:15.240 at and… well No Eyes is fucking blind. 00:15:15.240 --> 00:15:18.709 So she’d probably think anyone who walked in there would be her child. 00:15:18.709 --> 00:15:22.070 And she starts by saying “Please, don’t hurt me!” 00:15:22.070 --> 00:15:25.329 Which reinforced the idea that her children attacked her. 00:15:25.329 --> 00:15:28.370 But then the dialogue takes a bit of a turn. 00:15:28.370 --> 00:15:32.410 No Eyes says that the Knight can’t sleep with its eyes open, and it can’t dream if 00:15:32.410 --> 00:15:34.420 it’s still breathing. 00:15:34.420 --> 00:15:38.930 Judging by the sentence structure here, No Eyes wants the Knight to stop breathing so 00:15:38.930 --> 00:15:40.170 it can dream. 00:15:40.170 --> 00:15:44.160 There’s a pretty strong parallel to the Radiance here, especially when we look at 00:15:44.160 --> 00:15:45.890 No Eyes other dialogue. 00:15:45.890 --> 00:15:49.100 So this means No Eyes might have succumbed to the Infection. 00:15:49.100 --> 00:15:54.120 We know that Xero and Elder Hu met similar fates, but this isn’t guaranteed for all 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:55.610 dream warriors. 00:15:55.610 --> 00:16:01.570 Galien died because he was a moron, and Gorb probably died from a coke overdose. 00:16:01.570 --> 00:16:05.510 So it might be that No Eyes was infected, and then decided to strip the eyes out of 00:16:05.510 --> 00:16:08.440 her children so that they could sleep and dream too. 00:16:08.440 --> 00:16:13.139 That would explain why the ghosts she summons also appear to be missing their eyes. 00:16:13.139 --> 00:16:17.070 We can tell from No Eyes’ next line that this resulted in her children saying loathsome 00:16:17.070 --> 00:16:19.420 things while they slept. 00:16:19.420 --> 00:16:23.730 This might be a reference to the fact that these bugs’ ghosts still haunt the Stone 00:16:23.730 --> 00:16:25.620 Sanctuary. 00:16:25.620 --> 00:16:30.550 Another explanation is that No Eyes tore everyone's eyes out as a preemptive measure to try and 00:16:30.550 --> 00:16:33.010 stop the infection from getting to them. 00:16:33.010 --> 00:16:39.080 Basically she’s blinded all her kids out of fear, but ultimately they all still perished. 00:16:39.080 --> 00:16:43.220 After the battle with the Knight, we see that all of these spirits are finally put to rest, 00:16:43.220 --> 00:16:48.050 and No Eyes embraces being taken to a place where the Radiance’s light and dreams can’t 00:16:48.050 --> 00:16:50.110 haunt her and her children anymore. 00:16:50.110 --> 00:16:54.260 I’m not really sure how the line “They’re coming…” fits into either of these two 00:16:54.260 --> 00:16:56.089 interpretations though. 00:16:56.089 --> 00:16:59.269 Who are “they” if not No Eyes’ children? 00:16:59.269 --> 00:17:00.800 The Radiance? 00:17:00.800 --> 00:17:02.040 Other infected bugs? 00:17:02.040 --> 00:17:06.589 Regardless, it does seem like Team Cherry tweaked the Liza’s original story at least 00:17:06.589 --> 00:17:07.839 a bit. 00:17:07.839 --> 00:17:10.209 And that’s pretty much all I have to say about the dream warriors. 00:17:10.209 --> 00:17:14.399 They haven’t been discussed much on this channel, but that’s mainly just because 00:17:14.399 --> 00:17:19.429 they are pretty inconsequential to anything that actually happens, unlike say a character 00:17:19.429 --> 00:17:21.089 like Menderbug. 00:17:21.089 --> 00:17:23.110 Of course, there’s nothing wrong with that. 00:17:23.110 --> 00:17:26.669 Small, pointless details are what make Hollow Knight such an amazing game. 00:17:26.669 --> 00:17:29.600 Like how the bench in the Archive has Monomon’s face on it. 00:17:29.600 --> 00:17:33.229 Or how the Glowing Womb bugs turn into little turds when you have the Defender’s Crest 00:17:33.229 --> 00:17:34.229 equipped. 00:17:34.229 --> 00:17:37.580 Or how the Nailsmith’s rotting corpse can be found in the junk pit. 00:17:37.580 --> 00:17:39.420 Amazing. 00:17:40.320 --> 00:17:44.500 By the way, have you ever heard of a little hellhole called Discord? 00:17:44.509 --> 00:17:50.169 If so, maybe you’d like to check out my new Discord server called mossbag & friends. 00:17:50.169 --> 00:17:54.789 There, you can talk about all things Hollow Knight or mossbag related. 00:17:54.789 --> 00:17:58.370 Like discussing the moral implications of dream nailing ghosts. 00:17:58.370 --> 00:18:03.109 Or bitching about how the latest Indie World presentation didn’t shadow drop Silksong. 00:18:03.109 --> 00:18:09.019 We even have some amazing invite and banner art created by ZamZam and Yoclesh. 00:18:09.019 --> 00:18:12.580 So please, check the link in the description if you’re interested, and let’s see how 00:18:12.580 --> 00:18:15.809 long it takes before I regret ever creating this server. 00:18:15.809 --> 00:18:17.549 I’m thinking…. 00:18:17.549 --> 00:18:18.419 April.