What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids
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0:01 - 0:05When I was a child,
I knew I had superpowers. -
0:07 - 0:08That's right.
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0:08 - 0:09(Laughter)
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0:09 - 0:13I thought I was absolutely amazing
because I could understand -
0:13 - 0:15and relate to the feelings
of brown people, -
0:15 - 0:19like my grandfather,
a conservative Muslim guy. -
0:19 - 0:24And also, I could understand
my Afghan mother, my Pakistani father, -
0:24 - 0:28not so religious
but laid-back, fairly liberal. -
0:28 - 0:30And of course, I could understand
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0:30 - 0:33and relate to the feelings
of white people. -
0:33 - 0:34The white Norwegians of my country.
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0:35 - 0:38You know, white, brown, whatever --
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0:38 - 0:40I loved them all.
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0:40 - 0:41I understood them all,
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0:41 - 0:44even if they didn't always
understand each other; -
0:44 - 0:45they were all my people.
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0:46 - 0:49My father, though,
was always really worried. -
0:49 - 0:52He kept saying that
even with the best education, -
0:52 - 0:55I was not going to get a fair shake.
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0:55 - 0:59I would still face discrimination,
according to him. -
0:59 - 1:01And that the only way
to be accepted by white people -
1:01 - 1:04would be to become famous.
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1:04 - 1:08Now, mind you, he had this conversation
with me when I was seven years old. -
1:08 - 1:11So while I'm seven years old, he said,
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1:11 - 1:15"Look, so it's either got to be sports,
or it's got to be music." -
1:15 - 1:19He didn't know anything about sports --
bless him -- so it was music. -
1:19 - 1:24So when I was seven years old,
he gathered all my toys, all my dolls, -
1:24 - 1:25and he threw them all away.
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1:26 - 1:30In exchange he gave me
a crappy little Casio keyboard and -- -
1:30 - 1:31(Laughter)
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1:31 - 1:33Yeah. And singing lessons.
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1:33 - 1:38And he forced me, basically, to practice
for hours and hours every single day. -
1:38 - 1:42Very quickly, he also had me performing
for larger and larger audiences, -
1:42 - 1:46and bizarrely, I became
almost a kind of poster child -
1:46 - 1:48for Norwegian multiculturalism.
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1:49 - 1:50I felt very proud, of course.
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1:51 - 1:54Because even the newspapers at this point
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1:54 - 1:56were starting to write
nice things about brown people, -
1:56 - 2:00so I could feel
that my superpower was growing. -
2:01 - 2:04So when I was 12 years old,
walking home from school, -
2:04 - 2:05I took a little detour
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2:05 - 2:09because I wanted to buy
my favorite sweets called "salty feet." -
2:09 - 2:11I know they sound kind of awful,
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2:12 - 2:13but I absolutely love them.
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2:13 - 2:18They're basically these little
salty licorice bits in the shape of feet. -
2:18 - 2:23And now that I say it out loud,
I realize how terrible that sounds, -
2:24 - 2:27but be that as it may,
I absolutely love them. -
2:27 - 2:29So on my way into the store,
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2:29 - 2:33there was this grown white guy
in the doorway blocking my way. -
2:33 - 2:39So I tried to walk around him,
and as I did that, he stopped me -
2:39 - 2:41and he was staring at me,
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2:42 - 2:44and he spit in my face, and he said,
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2:44 - 2:45"Get out of my way
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2:45 - 2:49you little black bitch,
you little Paki bitch, -
2:49 - 2:51go back home where you came from."
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2:52 - 2:55I was absolutely horrified.
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2:55 - 2:56I was staring at him.
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2:56 - 2:59I was too afraid
to wipe the spit off my face, -
3:00 - 3:02even as it was mixing with my tears.
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3:02 - 3:06I remember looking around,
hoping that any minute now, -
3:06 - 3:09a grown-up is going to come
and make this guy stop. -
3:09 - 3:14But instead, people kept hurrying past me
and pretended not to see me. -
3:14 - 3:18I was very confused
because I was thinking, well, -
3:19 - 3:22"My white people, come on!
Where are they? What's going on? -
3:22 - 3:24How come they're not
coming and rescuing me?" -
3:25 - 3:27So, needless to say,
I didn't buy the sweets. -
3:27 - 3:29I just ran home as fast as I could.
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3:30 - 3:32Things were still OK, though, I thought.
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3:33 - 3:36As time went on,
the more successful I became, -
3:36 - 3:40I eventually started also
attracting harassment from brown people. -
3:42 - 3:45Some men in my parent's community
felt that it was unacceptable -
3:45 - 3:50and dishonorable for a woman
to be involved in music -
3:50 - 3:52and to be so present in the media.
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3:53 - 3:59So very quickly, I was starting
to become attacked at my own concerts. -
3:59 - 4:04I remember one of the concerts,
I was onstage, I lean into the audience -
4:04 - 4:07and the last thing I see
is a young brown face, -
4:07 - 4:11and the next thing I know is some sort
of chemical is thrown in my eyes -
4:11 - 4:14and I remember I couldn't really see
and my eyes were watering -
4:15 - 4:16but I kept singing anyway.
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4:17 - 4:22I was spit in the face in the streets
of Oslo, this time by brown men. -
4:22 - 4:26They even tried to kidnap me at one point.
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4:26 - 4:28The death threats were endless.
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4:28 - 4:31I remember one older bearded guy
stopped me in the street one time, -
4:31 - 4:33and he said, "The reason
I hate you so much -
4:33 - 4:35is because you make our daughters think
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4:35 - 4:37they can do whatever they want."
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4:39 - 4:41A younger guy warned me to watch my back.
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4:41 - 4:44He said music is un-Islamic
and the job of whores, -
4:44 - 4:47and if you keep this up,
you are going to be raped -
4:47 - 4:52and your stomach will be cut out so that
another whore like you will not be born. -
4:54 - 4:55Again, I was so confused.
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4:55 - 4:57I couldn't understand what was going on.
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4:57 - 5:01My brown people now starting
to treat me like this -- how come? -
5:02 - 5:05Instead of bridging the worlds,
the two worlds, -
5:05 - 5:08I felt like I was falling
between my two worlds. -
5:08 - 5:11I suppose, for me, spit was kryptonite.
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5:13 - 5:15So by the time I was 17 years old,
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5:15 - 5:18the death threats were endless,
and the harassment was constant. -
5:18 - 5:20It got so bad, at one point
my mother sat me down and said, -
5:20 - 5:24"Look, we can no longer protect you,
we can no longer keep you safe, -
5:24 - 5:26so you're going to have to go."
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5:26 - 5:31So I bought a one-way ticket to London,
I packed my suitcase and I left. -
5:32 - 5:36My biggest heartbreak at that point
was that nobody said anything. -
5:36 - 5:38I had a very public exit from Norway.
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5:39 - 5:43My brown people, my white people --
nobody said anything. -
5:43 - 5:45Nobody said, "Hold on, this is wrong.
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5:46 - 5:50Support this girl, protect this girl,
because she is one of us." -
5:50 - 5:51Nobody said that.
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5:51 - 5:54Instead, I felt like --
you know at the airport, -
5:55 - 5:58on the baggage carousel
you have these different suitcases -
5:58 - 5:59going around and around,
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5:59 - 6:02and there's always
that one suitcase left at the end, -
6:02 - 6:05the one that nobody wants,
the one that nobody comes to claim. -
6:05 - 6:06I felt like that.
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6:07 - 6:10I'd never felt so alone.
I'd never felt so lost. -
6:12 - 6:16So, after coming to London,
I did eventually resume my music career. -
6:17 - 6:20Different place, but unfortunately
the same old story. -
6:21 - 6:24I remember a message sent to me
saying that I was going to be killed -
6:24 - 6:28and that rivers of blood
were going to flow -
6:28 - 6:31and that I was going to be raped
many times before I died. -
6:31 - 6:33By this point, I have to say,
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6:33 - 6:35I was actually getting used
to messages like this, -
6:35 - 6:39but what became different was that
now they started threatening my family. -
6:41 - 6:46So once again, I packed my suitcase,
I left music and I moved to the US. -
6:47 - 6:48I'd had enough.
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6:48 - 6:50I didn't want to have anything
to do with this anymore. -
6:50 - 6:53And I was certainly not
going to be killed for something -
6:53 - 6:56that wasn't even my dream --
it was my father's choice. -
6:58 - 7:01So I kind of got lost.
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7:01 - 7:03I kind of fell apart.
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7:03 - 7:05But I decided that what I wanted to do
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7:05 - 7:09is spend the next
however many years of my life -
7:09 - 7:10supporting young people
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7:10 - 7:13and to try to be there in some small way,
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7:13 - 7:15whatever way that I could.
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7:15 - 7:18I started volunteering
for various organizations -
7:18 - 7:23that were working
with young Muslims inside of Europe. -
7:24 - 7:27And, to my surprise, what I found was
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7:27 - 7:32so many of these young people
were suffering and struggling. -
7:32 - 7:36They were facing so many problems
with their families and their communities -
7:36 - 7:40who seemed to care more
about their honor and their reputation -
7:40 - 7:42than the happiness
and the lives of their own kids. -
7:44 - 7:48I started feeling like maybe I wasn't
so alone, maybe I wasn't so weird. -
7:48 - 7:51Maybe there are more
of my people out there. -
7:51 - 7:53The thing is, what most people
don't understand -
7:54 - 7:58is that there are so many of us
growing up in Europe -
7:58 - 8:00who are not free to be ourselves.
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8:00 - 8:02We're not allowed to be who we are.
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8:03 - 8:07We are not free to marry
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8:07 - 8:10or to be in relationships
with people that we choose. -
8:10 - 8:12We can't even pick our own career.
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8:12 - 8:16This is the norm in the Muslim
heartlands of Europe. -
8:16 - 8:19Even in the freest societies
in the world, we're not free. -
8:20 - 8:24Our lives, our dreams, our future
does not belong to us, -
8:24 - 8:27it belongs to our parents
and their community. -
8:27 - 8:30I found endless stories of young people
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8:31 - 8:34who are lost to all of us,
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8:34 - 8:36who are invisible to all of us
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8:36 - 8:38but who are suffering,
and they are suffering alone. -
8:40 - 8:44Kids we are losing to forced marriages,
to honor-based violence and abuse. -
8:45 - 8:49Eventually, I realized after several
years of working with these young people, -
8:49 - 8:51that I will not be able to keep running.
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8:51 - 8:56I can't spend the rest of my life
being scared and hiding -
8:56 - 8:58and that I'm actually
going to have to do something. -
9:00 - 9:03And I also realized
that my silence, our silence, -
9:03 - 9:05allows abuse like this to continue.
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9:06 - 9:10So I decided that I wanted to put
my childhood superpower to some use -
9:11 - 9:15by trying to make people on the different
sides of these issues understand -
9:15 - 9:20what it's like to be a young person stuck
between your family and your country. -
9:21 - 9:24So I started making films,
and I started telling these stories. -
9:25 - 9:29And I also wanted people to understand
the deadly consequences of us -
9:29 - 9:31not taking these problems seriously.
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9:32 - 9:34So the first film I made was about Banaz.
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9:35 - 9:39She was a 17-year-old
Kurdish girl in London. -
9:40 - 9:42She was obedient, she did
whatever her parents wanted. -
9:43 - 9:45She tried to do everything right.
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9:45 - 9:48She married some guy
that her parents chose for her, -
9:48 - 9:51even though he beat
and raped her constantly. -
9:52 - 9:55And when she tried to go
to her family for help, they said, -
9:55 - 9:57"Well, you got to go back
and be a better wife." -
9:57 - 10:00Because they didn't want
a divorced daughter on their hands -
10:00 - 10:03because, of course, that would
bring dishonor on the family. -
10:04 - 10:06She was beaten so badly
her ears would bleed, -
10:07 - 10:12and when she finally left
and she found a young man that she chose -
10:12 - 10:14and she fell in love with,
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10:14 - 10:16the community and the family found out
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10:16 - 10:18and she disappeared.
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10:18 - 10:20She was found three months later.
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10:21 - 10:25She'd been stuffed into a suitcase
and buried underneath the house. -
10:28 - 10:32She had been strangled,
she had been beaten to death -
10:33 - 10:37by three men, three cousins,
on the orders of her father and uncle. -
10:38 - 10:40The added tragedy of Banaz's story
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10:40 - 10:46is that she had gone to the police
in England five times asking for help, -
10:46 - 10:49telling them that she was
going to be killed by her family. -
10:49 - 10:52The police didn't believe her
so they didn't do anything. -
10:53 - 10:54And the problem with this
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10:54 - 10:59is that not only are so many of our kids
facing these problems -
10:59 - 11:02within their families
and within their families' communities, -
11:02 - 11:06but they're also meeting misunderstandings
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11:07 - 11:10and apathy in the countries
that they grow up in. -
11:12 - 11:16When their own families betray them,
they look to the rest of us, -
11:16 - 11:18and when we don't understand,
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11:18 - 11:20we lose them.
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11:21 - 11:24So while I was making this film,
several people said to me, -
11:24 - 11:27"Well, Deeyah, you know,
this is just their culture, -
11:27 - 11:29this is just what those people
do to their kids -
11:29 - 11:31and we can't really interfere."
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11:32 - 11:35I can assure you
being murdered is not my culture. -
11:36 - 11:37You know?
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11:38 - 11:39And surely people who look like me,
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11:39 - 11:42young women who come
from backgrounds like me, -
11:42 - 11:46should be subject to the same rights,
the same protections -
11:46 - 11:49as anybody else in our country, why not?
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11:50 - 11:55So, for my next film,
I wanted to try and understand -
11:55 - 11:58why some of our young
Muslim kids in Europe -
11:58 - 12:00are drawn to extremism and violence.
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12:01 - 12:02But with that topic,
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12:02 - 12:05I also recognized that I was going
to have to face my worst fear: -
12:07 - 12:09the brown men with beards.
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12:11 - 12:14The same men, or similar men,
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12:14 - 12:17to the ones that have hounded me
for most of my life. -
12:18 - 12:20Men that I've been afraid of
most of my life. -
12:20 - 12:23Men that I've also deeply disliked,
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12:23 - 12:25for many, many years.
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12:25 - 12:29So I spent the next two years
interviewing convicted terrorists, -
12:29 - 12:32jihadis and former extremists.
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12:32 - 12:35What I already knew,
what was very obvious already, -
12:35 - 12:40was that religion, politics,
Europe's colonial baggage, -
12:40 - 12:44also Western foreign policy
failures of recent years, -
12:45 - 12:46were all a part of the picture.
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12:47 - 12:50But what I was more interested
in finding out was what are the human, -
12:50 - 12:51what are the personal reasons
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12:51 - 12:56why some of our young people
are susceptible to groups like this. -
12:57 - 13:01And what really surprised me
was that I found wounded human beings. -
13:04 - 13:06Instead of the monsters
that I was looking for, -
13:06 - 13:08that I was hoping to find --
-
13:08 - 13:11quite frankly because
it would have been very satisfying -- -
13:11 - 13:12I found broken people.
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13:14 - 13:15Just like Banaz,
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13:15 - 13:18I found that these young men
were torn apart -
13:18 - 13:21from trying to bridge the gaps
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13:21 - 13:24between their families
and the countries that they were born in. -
13:26 - 13:29And what I also learned
is that extremist groups, terrorist groups -
13:29 - 13:33are taking advantage
of these feelings of our young people -
13:33 - 13:36and channeling that -- cynically --
channeling that toward violence. -
13:36 - 13:38"Come to us," they say.
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13:38 - 13:41"Reject both sides,
your family and your country -
13:41 - 13:43because they reject you.
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13:43 - 13:46For your family, their honor
is more important than you -
13:46 - 13:47and for your country,
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13:47 - 13:53a real Norwegian, Brit or a French person
will always be white and never you." -
13:54 - 13:57They're also promising our young people
the things that they crave: -
13:58 - 14:02significance, heroism,
a sense of belonging and purpose, -
14:02 - 14:04a community that loves and accepts them.
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14:05 - 14:08They make the powerless feel powerful.
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14:08 - 14:13The invisible and the silent
are finally seen and heard. -
14:15 - 14:18This is what they're doing
for our young people. -
14:18 - 14:22Why are these groups doing this
for our young people and not us? -
14:23 - 14:24The thing is,
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14:24 - 14:28I'm not trying to justify
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14:28 - 14:31or excuse any of the violence.
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14:31 - 14:35What I am trying to say
is that we have to understand -
14:35 - 14:38why some of our young people
are attracted to this. -
14:40 - 14:42I would like to also show you, actually --
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14:42 - 14:45these are childhood photos
of some of the guys in the film. -
14:47 - 14:50What really struck me
is that so many of them -- -
14:51 - 14:53I never would have thought this --
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14:53 - 14:56but so many of them
have absent or abusive fathers. -
14:57 - 14:59And several of these young guys
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14:59 - 15:03ended up finding caring
and compassionate father figures -
15:03 - 15:05within these extremist groups.
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15:06 - 15:09I also found men
brutalized by racist violence, -
15:10 - 15:12but who found a way
to stop feeling like victims -
15:12 - 15:14by becoming violent themselves.
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15:14 - 15:19In fact, I found something,
to my horror, that I recognized. -
15:19 - 15:25I found the same feelings that I felt
as a 17-year-old as I fled from Norway. -
15:26 - 15:30The same confusion, the same sorrow,
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15:30 - 15:33the same feeling of being betrayed
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15:35 - 15:36and not belonging to anyone.
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15:39 - 15:42The same feeling of being lost
and torn between cultures. -
15:43 - 15:45Having said that,
I did not choose destruction, -
15:45 - 15:48I chose to pick up a camera
instead of a gun. -
15:48 - 15:51And the reason I did that
is because of my superpower. -
15:51 - 15:56I could see that understanding
is the answer, instead of violence. -
15:56 - 15:58Seeing human beings
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15:58 - 16:02with all their virtues and all their flaws
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16:02 - 16:04instead of continuing the caricatures:
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16:04 - 16:06the us and them, the villains and victims.
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16:06 - 16:08I'd also finally
come to terms with the fact -
16:09 - 16:12that my two cultures
didn't have to be on a collision course -
16:12 - 16:15but instead became a space
where I found my own voice. -
16:16 - 16:19I stopped feeling
like I had to pick a side, -
16:19 - 16:21but this took me many, many years.
-
16:22 - 16:24There are so many
of our young people today -
16:24 - 16:26who are struggling with these same issues,
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16:26 - 16:28and they're struggling with this alone.
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16:29 - 16:32And this leaves them open like wounds.
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16:33 - 16:36And for some, the worldview
of radical Islam -
16:36 - 16:39becomes the infection
that festers in these open wounds. -
16:41 - 16:44There's an African proverb that says,
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16:46 - 16:49"If the young are not
initiated into the village, -
16:49 - 16:52they will burn it down
just to feel its warmth." -
16:53 - 16:55I would like to ask --
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16:56 - 16:58to Muslim parents and Muslim communities,
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16:58 - 17:01will you love and care for your children
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17:01 - 17:03without forcing them
to meet your expectations? -
17:03 - 17:06Can you choose them instead of your honor?
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17:06 - 17:09Can you understand
why they're so angry and alienated -
17:09 - 17:12when you put your honor
before their happiness? -
17:13 - 17:15Can you try to be a friend to your child
-
17:15 - 17:17so that they can trust you
-
17:17 - 17:19and want to share with you
their experiences, -
17:19 - 17:21rather than having
to seek it somewhere else? -
17:22 - 17:25And to our young people
tempted by extremism, -
17:27 - 17:30can you acknowledge
that your rage is fueled by pain? -
17:32 - 17:35Will you find the strength
to resist those cynical old men -
17:35 - 17:38who want to use your blood
for their own profits? -
17:39 - 17:41Can you find a way to live?
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17:42 - 17:44Can you see that the sweetest revenge
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17:44 - 17:48is for you to live
a happy, full and free life? -
17:48 - 17:50A life defined by you and nobody else.
-
17:51 - 17:54Why do you want to become
just another dead Muslim kid? -
17:55 - 17:59And for the rest of us, when will we start
listening to our young people? -
18:01 - 18:02How can we support them
-
18:02 - 18:06in redirecting their pain
into something more constructive? -
18:07 - 18:08They think we don't like them.
-
18:08 - 18:11They think we don't care
what happens to them. -
18:11 - 18:13They think we don't accept them.
-
18:13 - 18:16Can we find a way
to make them feel differently? -
18:17 - 18:20What will it take for us
to see them and notice them -
18:20 - 18:25before they become either the victims
or the perpetrators of violence? -
18:25 - 18:29Can we make ourselves care about them
and consider them to be our own? -
18:29 - 18:34And not just be outraged when the victims
of violence look like ourselves? -
18:34 - 18:39Can we find a way to reject hatred
and heal the divisions between us? -
18:39 - 18:43The thing is we cannot afford
to give up on each other or on our kids, -
18:43 - 18:45even if they've given up on us.
-
18:45 - 18:47We are all in this together.
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18:47 - 18:53And in the long term, revenge and violence
will not work against extremists. -
18:53 - 18:57Terrorists want us
to huddle in our houses in fear, -
18:57 - 18:59closing our doors and our hearts.
-
18:59 - 19:03They want us to tear open
more wounds in our societies -
19:03 - 19:07so that they can use them
to spread their infection more widely. -
19:07 - 19:10They want us to become like them:
-
19:10 - 19:12intolerant, hateful and cruel.
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19:14 - 19:17The day after the Paris attacks,
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19:17 - 19:20a friend of mine
sent this photo of her daughter. -
19:21 - 19:23This is a white girl and an Arab girl.
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19:23 - 19:24They're best friends.
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19:25 - 19:29This image is the kryptonite
for extremists. -
19:31 - 19:34These two little girls
with their superpowers -
19:34 - 19:36are showing the way forward
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19:36 - 19:39towards a society
that we need to build together, -
19:40 - 19:43a society that includes and supports,
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19:44 - 19:47rather than rejects our kids.
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19:48 - 19:49Thank you for listening.
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19:49 - 19:56(Applause)
- Title:
- What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids
- Speaker:
- Deeyah Khan
- Description:
-
As the child of an Afghan mother and Pakistani father raised in Norway, Deeyah Khan knows what it's like to be a young person stuck between your community and your country. In this powerful, emotional talk, the filmmaker unearths the rejection and isolation felt by many Muslim kids growing up in the West -- and the deadly consequences of not embracing our youth before extremist groups do.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 20:11
Brian Greene edited English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Brian Greene edited English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Brian Greene edited English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Brian Greene approved English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Brian Greene edited English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Joanna Pietrulewicz accepted English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Joanna Pietrulewicz edited English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids | ||
Joanna Pietrulewicz edited English subtitles for What we don't know about Europe's Muslim kids |