The child-driven education
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0:02 - 0:04Well, that's kind of an obvious statement up there.
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0:04 - 0:07I started with that sentence about 12 years ago,
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0:07 - 0:10and I started in the context
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0:10 - 0:12of developing countries,
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0:12 - 0:15but you're sitting here from every corner of the world.
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0:15 - 0:18So if you think of a map of your country,
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0:18 - 0:20I think you'll realize
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0:20 - 0:22that for every country on Earth,
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0:22 - 0:24you could draw little circles to say,
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0:24 - 0:27"These are places where good teachers won't go."
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0:28 - 0:30On top of that,
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0:30 - 0:33those are the places from where trouble comes.
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0:33 - 0:35So we have an ironic problem --
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0:35 - 0:37good teachers don't want to go
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0:37 - 0:40to just those places where they're needed the most.
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0:40 - 0:43I started in 1999
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0:43 - 0:46to try and address this problem with an experiment,
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0:46 - 0:49which was a very simple experiment in New Delhi.
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0:51 - 0:54I basically embedded a computer
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0:54 - 0:57into a wall of a slum in New Delhi.
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0:58 - 1:01The children barely went to school, they didn't know any English --
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1:01 - 1:03they'd never seen a computer before,
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1:03 - 1:06and they didn't know what the internet was.
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1:06 - 1:09I connected high speed internet to it -- it's about three feet off the ground --
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1:09 - 1:11turned it on and left it there.
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1:11 - 1:13After this,
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1:13 - 1:16we noticed a couple of interesting things, which you'll see.
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1:16 - 1:19But I repeated this all over India
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1:19 - 1:21and then through
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1:21 - 1:23a large part of the world
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1:23 - 1:25and noticed
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1:25 - 1:27that children will learn to do
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1:27 - 1:30what they want to learn to do.
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1:30 - 1:32This is the first experiment that we did --
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1:32 - 1:34eight year-old boy on your right
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1:34 - 1:37teaching his student, a six year-old girl,
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1:37 - 1:40and he was teaching her how to browse.
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1:41 - 1:44This boy here in the middle of central India --
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1:45 - 1:47this is in a Rajasthan village,
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1:47 - 1:50where the children recorded their own music
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1:50 - 1:53and then played it back to each other
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1:53 - 1:55and in the process,
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1:55 - 1:57they've enjoyed themselves thoroughly.
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1:57 - 1:59They did all of this in four hours
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1:59 - 2:02after seeing the computer for the first time.
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2:02 - 2:05In another South Indian village,
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2:05 - 2:07these boys here
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2:07 - 2:09had assembled a video camera
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2:09 - 2:11and were trying to take the photograph of a bumble bee.
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2:11 - 2:13They downloaded it from Disney.com,
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2:13 - 2:15or one of these websites,
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2:15 - 2:1814 days after putting the computer in their village.
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2:21 - 2:23So at the end of it,
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2:23 - 2:25we concluded that groups of children
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2:25 - 2:28can learn to use computers and the internet on their own,
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2:28 - 2:30irrespective of who
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2:30 - 2:33or where they were.
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2:33 - 2:36At that point, I became a little more ambitious
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2:36 - 2:39and decided to see
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2:39 - 2:42what else could children do with a computer.
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2:42 - 2:45We started off with an experiment in Hyderabad, India,
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2:45 - 2:48where I gave a group of children --
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2:48 - 2:51they spoke English with a very strong Telugu accent.
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2:51 - 2:53I gave them a computer
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2:53 - 2:55with a speech-to-text interface,
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2:55 - 2:58which you now get free with Windows,
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2:58 - 3:00and asked them to speak into it.
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3:00 - 3:02So when they spoke into it,
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3:02 - 3:04the computer typed out gibberish,
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3:04 - 3:06so they said, "Well, it doesn't understand anything of what we are saying."
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3:06 - 3:08So I said, "Yeah, I'll leave it here for two months.
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3:08 - 3:10Make yourself understood
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3:10 - 3:12to the computer."
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3:12 - 3:14So the children said, "How do we do that."
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3:14 - 3:16And I said,
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3:16 - 3:18"I don't know, actually."
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3:18 - 3:20(Laughter)
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3:20 - 3:22And I left.
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3:22 - 3:24(Laughter)
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3:25 - 3:27Two months later --
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3:27 - 3:29and this is now documented
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3:29 - 3:31in the Information Technology
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3:31 - 3:33for International Development journal --
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3:33 - 3:35that accents had changed
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3:35 - 3:38and were remarkably close to the neutral British accent
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3:38 - 3:41in which I had trained the speech-to-text synthesizer.
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3:41 - 3:44In other words, they were all speaking like James Tooley.
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3:44 - 3:46(Laughter)
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3:46 - 3:48So they could do that on their own.
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3:48 - 3:50After that, I started to experiment
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3:50 - 3:52with various other things
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3:52 - 3:54that they might learn to do on their own.
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3:54 - 3:57I got an interesting phone call once from Columbo,
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3:57 - 3:59from the late Arthur C. Clarke,
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3:59 - 4:01who said, "I want to see what's going on."
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4:01 - 4:04And he couldn't travel, so I went over there.
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4:04 - 4:06He said two interesting things,
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4:06 - 4:11"A teacher that can be replaced by a machine should be."
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4:11 - 4:13(Laughter)
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4:13 - 4:15The second thing he said was that,
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4:15 - 4:17"If children have interest,
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4:17 - 4:20then education happens."
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4:20 - 4:22And I was doing that in the field,
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4:22 - 4:24so every time I would watch it and think of him.
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4:24 - 4:27(Video) Arthur C. Clarke: And they can definitely
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4:27 - 4:29help people,
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4:29 - 4:31because children quickly learn to navigate
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4:31 - 4:34the web and find things which interest them.
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4:34 - 4:37And when you've got interest, then you have education.
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4:37 - 4:40Sugata Mitra: I took the experiment to South Africa.
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4:40 - 4:42This is a 15 year-old boy.
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4:42 - 4:45(Video) Boy: ... just mention, I play games
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4:45 - 4:48like animals,
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4:48 - 4:51and I listen to music.
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4:51 - 4:53SM: And I asked him, "Do you send emails?"
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4:53 - 4:56And he said, "Yes, and they hop across the ocean."
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4:57 - 4:59This is in Cambodia,
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4:59 - 5:02rural Cambodia --
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5:02 - 5:05a fairly silly arithmetic game,
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5:05 - 5:07which no child would play inside the classroom or at home.
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5:07 - 5:09They would, you know, throw it back at you.
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5:09 - 5:11They'd say, "This is very boring."
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5:11 - 5:13If you leave it on the pavement
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5:13 - 5:15and if all the adults go away,
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5:15 - 5:17then they will show off with each other
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5:17 - 5:19about what they can do.
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5:19 - 5:21This is what these children are doing.
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5:21 - 5:24They are trying to multiply, I think.
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5:24 - 5:26And all over India,
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5:26 - 5:28at the end of about two years,
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5:28 - 5:31children were beginning to Google their homework.
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5:31 - 5:33As a result, the teachers reported
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5:33 - 5:35tremendous improvements in their English --
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5:35 - 5:39(Laughter)
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5:39 - 5:41rapid improvement and all sorts of things.
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5:41 - 5:44They said, "They have become really deep thinkers and so on and so forth.
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5:44 - 5:47(Laughter)
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5:47 - 5:49And indeed they had.
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5:49 - 5:51I mean, if there's stuff on Google,
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5:51 - 5:54why would you need to stuff it into your head?
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5:55 - 5:57So at the end of the next four years,
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5:57 - 6:00I decided that groups of children can navigate the internet
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6:00 - 6:03to achieve educational objectives on their own.
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6:03 - 6:05At that time, a large amount of money
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6:05 - 6:07had come into Newcastle University
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6:07 - 6:10to improve schooling in India.
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6:10 - 6:13So Newcastle gave me a call. I said, "I'll do it from Delhi."
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6:13 - 6:15They said, "There's no way you're going to handle
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6:15 - 6:18a million pounds-worth of University money
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6:18 - 6:20sitting in Delhi."
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6:20 - 6:22So in 2006,
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6:22 - 6:24I bought myself a heavy overcoat
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6:24 - 6:26and moved to Newcastle.
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6:27 - 6:29I wanted to test the limits
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6:29 - 6:31of the system.
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6:31 - 6:33The first experiment I did out of Newcastle
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6:33 - 6:35was actually done in India.
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6:35 - 6:38And I set myself and impossible target:
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6:38 - 6:41can Tamil speaking
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6:41 - 6:4312-year-old children
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6:43 - 6:46in a South Indian village
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6:46 - 6:48teach themselves biotechnology
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6:48 - 6:50in English on their own?
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6:50 - 6:53And I thought, I'll test them, they'll get a zero --
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6:53 - 6:55I'll give the materials, I'll come back and test them --
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6:55 - 6:57they get another zero,
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6:57 - 7:01I'll go back and say, "Yes, we need teachers for certain things."
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7:01 - 7:03I called in 26 children.
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7:03 - 7:05They all came in there, and I told them
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7:05 - 7:07that there's some really difficult stuff on this computer.
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7:07 - 7:10I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't understand anything.
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7:10 - 7:13It's all in English, and I'm going.
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7:13 - 7:15(Laughter)
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7:15 - 7:17So I left them with it.
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7:17 - 7:19I came back after two months,
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7:19 - 7:21and the 26 children marched in looking very, very quiet.
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7:21 - 7:24I said, "Well, did you look at any of the stuff?"
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7:24 - 7:26They said, "Yes, we did."
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7:26 - 7:29"Did you understand anything?" "No, nothing."
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7:29 - 7:31So I said,
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7:31 - 7:33"Well, how long did you practice on it
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7:33 - 7:35before you decided you understood nothing?"
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7:35 - 7:38They said, "We look at it every day."
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7:38 - 7:40So I said, "For two months, you were looking at stuff you didn't understand?"
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7:40 - 7:42So a 12 year-old girl raises her hand and says,
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7:42 - 7:44literally,
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7:45 - 7:48"Apart from the fact that improper replication of the DNA molecule
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7:48 - 7:50causes genetic disease,
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7:50 - 7:52we've understood nothing else."
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7:52 - 7:54(Laughter)
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7:54 - 8:01(Applause)
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8:01 - 8:04(Laughter)
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8:04 - 8:06It took me three years to publish that.
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8:06 - 8:09It's just been published in the British Journal of Educational Technology.
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8:09 - 8:12One of the referees who refereed the paper said,
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8:12 - 8:15"It's too good to be true,"
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8:15 - 8:17which was not very nice.
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8:17 - 8:19Well, one of the girls had taught herself
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8:19 - 8:21to become the teacher.
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8:21 - 8:23And then that's her over there.
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8:31 - 8:33Remember, they don't study English.
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8:46 - 8:49I edited out the last bit when I asked, "Where is the neuron?"
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8:49 - 8:51and she says, "The neuron? The neuron,"
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8:51 - 8:54and then she looked and did this.
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8:54 - 8:57Whatever the expression, it was not very nice.
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8:57 - 9:00So their scores had gone up from zero to 30 percent,
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9:00 - 9:03which is an educational impossibility under the circumstances.
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9:03 - 9:06But 30 percent is not a pass.
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9:06 - 9:08So I found that they had a friend,
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9:08 - 9:10a local accountant, a young girl,
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9:10 - 9:12and they played football with her.
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9:12 - 9:14I asked that girl, "Would you teach them
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9:14 - 9:16enough biotechnology to pass?"
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9:16 - 9:18And she said, "How would I do that? I don't know the subject."
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9:18 - 9:20I said, "No, use the method of the grandmother."
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9:20 - 9:22She said, "What's that?"
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9:22 - 9:24I said, "Well, what you've got to do
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9:24 - 9:26is stand behind them
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9:26 - 9:29and admire them all the time.
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9:29 - 9:31Just say to them, 'That's cool. That's fantastic.
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9:31 - 9:34What is that? Can you do that again? Can you show me some more?'"
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9:34 - 9:36She did that for two months.
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9:36 - 9:38The scores went up to 50,
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9:38 - 9:40which is what the posh schools of New Delhi,
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9:40 - 9:43with a trained biotechnology teacher were getting.
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9:43 - 9:45So I came back to Newcastle
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9:45 - 9:47with these results
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9:47 - 9:49and decided
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9:49 - 9:51that there was something happening here
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9:51 - 9:54that definitely was getting very serious.
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9:55 - 9:58So, having experimented in all sorts of remote places,
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9:58 - 10:01I came to the most remote place that I could think of.
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10:01 - 10:03(Laughter)
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10:04 - 10:07Approximately 5,000 miles from Delhi
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10:07 - 10:09is the little town of Gateshead.
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10:09 - 10:12In Gateshead, I took 32 children
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10:12 - 10:15and I started to fine-tune the method.
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10:15 - 10:18I made them into groups of four.
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10:18 - 10:20I said, "You make your own groups of four.
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10:20 - 10:23Each group of four can use one computer and not four computers."
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10:23 - 10:26Remember, from the Hole in the Wall.
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10:26 - 10:28"You can exchange groups.
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10:28 - 10:30You can walk across to another group,
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10:30 - 10:32if you don't like your group, etc.
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10:32 - 10:35You can go to another group, peer over their shoulders, see what they're doing,
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10:35 - 10:38come back to you own group and claim it as your own work."
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10:38 - 10:40And I explained to them
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10:40 - 10:43that, you know, a lot of scientific research is done using that method.
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10:43 - 10:45(Laughter)
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10:45 - 10:50(Applause)
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10:52 - 10:54The children enthusiastically got after me and said,
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10:54 - 10:56"Now, what do you want us to do?"
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10:56 - 10:59I gave them six GCSE questions.
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10:59 - 11:01The first group -- the best one --
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11:01 - 11:03solved everything in 20 minutes.
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11:03 - 11:06The worst, in 45.
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11:06 - 11:08They used everything that they knew --
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11:08 - 11:10news groups, Google, Wikipedia,
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11:10 - 11:12Ask Jeeves, etc.
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11:12 - 11:15The teachers said, "Is this deep learning?"
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11:15 - 11:17I said, "Well, let's try it.
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11:17 - 11:19I'll come back after two months.
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11:19 - 11:21We'll give them a paper test --
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11:21 - 11:23no computers, no talking to each other, etc."
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11:23 - 11:25The average score when I'd done it with the computers and the groups
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11:25 - 11:27was 76 percent.
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11:27 - 11:29When I did the experiment, when I did the test,
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11:29 - 11:32after two months, the score
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11:32 - 11:35was 76 percent.
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11:35 - 11:37There was photographic recall
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11:37 - 11:39inside the children,
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11:39 - 11:42I suspect because they're discussing with each other.
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11:42 - 11:44A single child in front of a single computer
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11:44 - 11:46will not do that.
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11:46 - 11:48I have further results,
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11:48 - 11:50which are almost unbelievable,
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11:50 - 11:52of scores which go up with time.
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11:52 - 11:54Because their teachers say
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11:54 - 11:56that after the session is over,
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11:56 - 11:59the children continue to Google further.
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11:59 - 12:01Here in Britain, I put out a call
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12:01 - 12:03for British grandmothers,
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12:03 - 12:05after my Kuppam experiment.
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12:05 - 12:07Well, you know,
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12:07 - 12:09they're very vigorous people, British grandmothers.
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12:09 - 12:11200 of them volunteered immediately.
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12:11 - 12:13(Laughter)
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12:13 - 12:16The deal was that they would give me
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12:16 - 12:18one hour of broadband time,
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12:18 - 12:20sitting in their homes,
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12:20 - 12:22one day in a week.
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12:22 - 12:24So they did that,
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12:24 - 12:26and over the last two years,
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12:26 - 12:28over 600 hours of instruction
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12:28 - 12:30has happened over Skype,
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12:30 - 12:33using what my students call the granny cloud.
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12:33 - 12:36The granny cloud sits over there.
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12:36 - 12:39I can beam them to whichever school I want to.
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12:45 - 12:47(Video) Teacher: You can't catch me.
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12:47 - 12:50You say it.
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12:50 - 12:53You can't catch me.
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12:53 - 12:56Children: You can't catch me.
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12:56 - 12:59Teacher: I'm the gingerbread man.
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12:59 - 13:01Children: I'm the gingerbread man.
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13:01 - 13:03Teacher: Well done. Very good ...
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13:09 - 13:11SM: Back at Gateshead,
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13:11 - 13:13a 10-year-old girl gets into the heart of Hinduism
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13:13 - 13:15in 15 minutes.
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13:15 - 13:18You know, stuff which I don't know anything about.
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13:21 - 13:23Two children watch a TEDTalk.
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13:23 - 13:25They wanted to be footballers before.
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13:25 - 13:27After watching eight TEDTalks,
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13:27 - 13:30he wants to become Leonardo da Vinci.
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13:30 - 13:33(Laughter)
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13:33 - 13:36(Applause)
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13:36 - 13:38It's pretty simple stuff.
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13:38 - 13:40This is what I'm building now --
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13:40 - 13:43they're called SOLEs: Self Organized Learning Environments.
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13:43 - 13:45The furniture is designed
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13:45 - 13:48so that children can sit in front of big, powerful screens,
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13:48 - 13:51big broadband connections, but in groups.
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13:51 - 13:54If they want, they can call the granny cloud.
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13:54 - 13:56This is a SOLE in Newcastle.
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13:56 - 13:58The mediator is from Pune, India.
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13:58 - 14:01So how far can we go? One last little bit and I'll stop.
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14:01 - 14:04I went to Turin in May.
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14:05 - 14:08I sent all the teachers away from my group of 10 year-old students.
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14:09 - 14:12I speak only English, they speak only Italian,
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14:12 - 14:14so we had no way to communicate.
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14:14 - 14:17I started writing English questions on the blackboard.
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14:18 - 14:20The children looked at it and said, "What?"
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14:20 - 14:22I said, "Well, do it."
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14:22 - 14:25They typed it into Google, translated it into Italian,
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14:25 - 14:27went back into Italian Google.
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14:27 - 14:30Fifteen minutes later --
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14:37 - 14:40next question: where is Calcutta?
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14:42 - 14:45This one, they took only 10 minutes.
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14:49 - 14:52I tried a really hard one then.
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14:52 - 14:55Who was Pythagoras, and what did he do?
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14:57 - 14:59There was silence for a while,
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14:59 - 15:01then they said, "You've spelled it wrong.
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15:01 - 15:04It's Pitagora."
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15:08 - 15:10And then,
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15:10 - 15:12in 20 minutes,
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15:12 - 15:14the right-angled triangles began to appear on the screens.
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15:14 - 15:17This sent shivers up my spine.
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15:17 - 15:19These are 10 year-olds.
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15:32 - 15:35Text: In another 30 minutes they would reach the Theory of Relativity. And then?
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15:35 - 15:37(Laughter)
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15:37 - 15:46(Applause)
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15:46 - 15:48SM: So you know what's happened?
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15:48 - 15:50I think we've just stumbled across
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15:50 - 15:52a self-organizing system.
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15:52 - 15:54A self-organizing system is one
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15:54 - 15:56where a structure appears
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15:56 - 15:59without explicit intervention from the outside.
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15:59 - 16:02Self-organizing systems also always show emergence,
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16:02 - 16:04which is that the system starts to do things,
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16:04 - 16:06which it was never designed for.
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16:06 - 16:08Which is why you react the way you do,
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16:08 - 16:11because it looks impossible.
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16:11 - 16:14I think I can make a guess now --
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16:14 - 16:16education is self-organizing system,
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16:16 - 16:18where learning is an emergent phenomenon.
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16:18 - 16:20It'll take a few years to prove it, experimentally,
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16:20 - 16:22but I'm going to try.
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16:22 - 16:25But in the meanwhile, there is a method available.
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16:25 - 16:28One billion children, we need 100 million mediators --
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16:28 - 16:30there are many more than that on the planet --
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16:30 - 16:3210 million SOLEs,
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16:32 - 16:35180 billion dollars and 10 years.
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16:36 - 16:38We could change everything.
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16:38 - 16:40Thanks.
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16:40 - 16:51(Applause)
- Title:
- The child-driven education
- Speaker:
- Sugata Mitra
- Description:
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Education scientist Sugata Mitra tackles one of the greatest problems of education -- the best teachers and schools don't exist where they're needed most. In a series of real-life experiments from New Delhi to South Africa to Italy, he gave kids self-supervised access to the web and saw results that could revolutionize how we think about teaching.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 16:53
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