[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.00,0:00:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that's kind of an obvious statement up there. Dialogue: 0,0:00:04.00,0:00:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started with that sentence about 12 years ago, Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.00,0:00:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started in the context Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.00,0:00:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of developing countries, Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.00,0:00:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but you're sitting here from every corner of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:00:15.00,0:00:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So if you think of a map of your country, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.00,0:00:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think you'll realize Dialogue: 0,0:00:20.00,0:00:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that for every country on Earth, Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.00,0:00:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you could draw little circles to say, Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.00,0:00:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"These are places where good teachers won't go." Dialogue: 0,0:00:28.00,0:00:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On top of that, Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.00,0:00:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,those are the places from where trouble comes. Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.00,0:00:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we have an ironic problem -- Dialogue: 0,0:00:35.00,0:00:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,good teachers don't want to go Dialogue: 0,0:00:37.00,0:00:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to just those places where they're needed the most. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.00,0:00:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started in 1999 Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.00,0:00:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to try and address this problem with an experiment, Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.00,0:00:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was a very simple experiment in New Delhi. Dialogue: 0,0:00:51.00,0:00:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I basically embedded a computer Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.00,0:00:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a wall of a slum in New Delhi. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.00,0:01:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children barely went to school, they didn't know any English -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:01.00,0:01:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they'd never seen a computer before, Dialogue: 0,0:01:03.00,0:01:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they didn't know what the internet was. Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.00,0:01:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I connected high speed internet to it -- it's about three feet off the ground -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.00,0:01:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,turned it on and left it there. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.00,0:01:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After this, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.00,0:01:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we noticed a couple of interesting things, which you'll see. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.00,0:01:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I repeated this all over India Dialogue: 0,0:01:19.00,0:01:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then through Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.00,0:01:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a large part of the world Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.00,0:01:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and noticed Dialogue: 0,0:01:25.00,0:01:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that children will learn to do Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.00,0:01:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they want to learn to do. Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.00,0:01:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the first experiment that we did -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:32.00,0:01:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eight year-old boy on your right Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.00,0:01:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teaching his student, a six year-old girl, Dialogue: 0,0:01:37.00,0:01:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he was teaching her how to browse. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.00,0:01:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This boy here in the middle of central India -- Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.00,0:01:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is in a Rajasthan village, Dialogue: 0,0:01:47.00,0:01:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the children recorded their own music Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.00,0:01:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then played it back to each other Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.00,0:01:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in the process, Dialogue: 0,0:01:55.00,0:01:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've enjoyed themselves thoroughly. Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.00,0:01:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They did all of this in four hours Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.00,0:02:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after seeing the computer for the first time. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.00,0:02:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In another South Indian village, Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.00,0:02:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these boys here Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.00,0:02:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had assembled a video camera Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.00,0:02:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and were trying to take the photograph of a bumble bee. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.00,0:02:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They downloaded it from Disney.com, Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.00,0:02:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or one of these websites, Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.00,0:02:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,14 days after putting the computer in their village. Dialogue: 0,0:02:21.00,0:02:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at the end of it, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.00,0:02:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we concluded that groups of children Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.00,0:02:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can learn to use computers and the internet on their own, Dialogue: 0,0:02:28.00,0:02:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,irrespective of who Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.00,0:02:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or where they were. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.00,0:02:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that point, I became a little more ambitious Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.00,0:02:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and decided to see Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.00,0:02:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what else could children do with a computer. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.00,0:02:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We started off with an experiment in Hyderabad, India, Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.00,0:02:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where I gave a group of children -- Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.00,0:02:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they spoke English with a very strong Telugu accent. Dialogue: 0,0:02:51.00,0:02:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I gave them a computer Dialogue: 0,0:02:53.00,0:02:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a speech-to-text interface, Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.00,0:02:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which you now get free with Windows, Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.00,0:03:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and asked them to speak into it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.00,0:03:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So when they spoke into it, Dialogue: 0,0:03:02.00,0:03:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the computer typed out gibberish, Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.00,0:03:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so they said, "Well, it doesn't understand anything of what we are saying." Dialogue: 0,0:03:06.00,0:03:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "Yeah, I'll leave it here for two months. Dialogue: 0,0:03:08.00,0:03:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Make yourself understood Dialogue: 0,0:03:10.00,0:03:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the computer." Dialogue: 0,0:03:12.00,0:03:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the children said, "How do we do that." Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.00,0:03:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I said, Dialogue: 0,0:03:16.00,0:03:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"I don't know, actually." Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.00,0:03:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.00,0:03:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I left. Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.00,0:03:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:25.00,0:03:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two months later -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.00,0:03:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is now documented Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.00,0:03:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Information Technology Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.00,0:03:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for International Development journal -- Dialogue: 0,0:03:33.00,0:03:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that accents had changed Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.00,0:03:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and were remarkably close to the neutral British accent Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.00,0:03:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in which I had trained the speech-to-text synthesizer. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.00,0:03:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, they were all speaking like James Tooley. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.00,0:03:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:03:46.00,0:03:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they could do that on their own. Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.00,0:03:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After that, I started to experiment Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.00,0:03:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with various other things Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.00,0:03:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they might learn to do on their own. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.00,0:03:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got an interesting phone call once from Columbo, Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.00,0:03:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the late Arthur C. Clarke, Dialogue: 0,0:03:59.00,0:04:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who said, "I want to see what's going on." Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.00,0:04:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he couldn't travel, so I went over there. Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.00,0:04:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said two interesting things, Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.00,0:04:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"A teacher that can be replaced by a machine should be." Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.00,0:04:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:04:13.00,0:04:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The second thing he said was that, Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.00,0:04:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"If children have interest, Dialogue: 0,0:04:17.00,0:04:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then education happens." Dialogue: 0,0:04:20.00,0:04:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I was doing that in the field, Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.00,0:04:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so every time I would watch it and think of him. Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.00,0:04:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Video) Arthur C. Clarke: And they can definitely Dialogue: 0,0:04:27.00,0:04:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help people, Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.00,0:04:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because children quickly learn to navigate Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.00,0:04:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the web and find things which interest them. Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.00,0:04:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when you've got interest, then you have education. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.00,0:04:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sugata Mitra: I took the experiment to South Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.00,0:04:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a 15 year-old boy. Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.00,0:04:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Video) Boy: ... just mention, I play games Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.00,0:04:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like animals, Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.00,0:04:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I listen to music. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.00,0:04:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SM: And I asked him, "Do you send emails?" Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.00,0:04:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said, "Yes, and they hop across the ocean." Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.00,0:04:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is in Cambodia, Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.00,0:05:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rural Cambodia -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.00,0:05:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a fairly silly arithmetic game, Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.00,0:05:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which no child would play inside the classroom or at home. Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.00,0:05:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They would, you know, throw it back at you. Dialogue: 0,0:05:09.00,0:05:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'd say, "This is very boring." Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.00,0:05:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you leave it on the pavement Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.00,0:05:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if all the adults go away, Dialogue: 0,0:05:15.00,0:05:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they will show off with each other Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.00,0:05:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about what they can do. Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.00,0:05:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what these children are doing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:21.00,0:05:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are trying to multiply, I think. Dialogue: 0,0:05:24.00,0:05:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And all over India, Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.00,0:05:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the end of about two years, Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.00,0:05:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,children were beginning to Google their homework. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.00,0:05:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As a result, the teachers reported Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.00,0:05:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tremendous improvements in their English -- Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.00,0:05:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.00,0:05:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rapid improvement and all sorts of things. Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.00,0:05:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said, "They have become really deep thinkers and so on and so forth. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.00,0:05:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.00,0:05:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And indeed they had. Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.00,0:05:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, if there's stuff on Google, Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.00,0:05:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,why would you need to stuff it into your head? Dialogue: 0,0:05:55.00,0:05:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So at the end of the next four years, Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.00,0:06:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I decided that groups of children can navigate the internet Dialogue: 0,0:06:00.00,0:06:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to achieve educational objectives on their own. Dialogue: 0,0:06:03.00,0:06:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At that time, a large amount of money Dialogue: 0,0:06:05.00,0:06:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had come into Newcastle University Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.00,0:06:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to improve schooling in India. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.00,0:06:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Newcastle gave me a call. I said, "I'll do it from Delhi." Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.00,0:06:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said, "There's no way you're going to handle Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.00,0:06:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a million pounds-worth of University money Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.00,0:06:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting in Delhi." Dialogue: 0,0:06:20.00,0:06:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So in 2006, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.00,0:06:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I bought myself a heavy overcoat Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.00,0:06:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and moved to Newcastle. Dialogue: 0,0:06:27.00,0:06:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to test the limits Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.00,0:06:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the system. Dialogue: 0,0:06:31.00,0:06:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first experiment I did out of Newcastle Dialogue: 0,0:06:33.00,0:06:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was actually done in India. Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.00,0:06:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I set myself and impossible target: Dialogue: 0,0:06:38.00,0:06:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can Tamil speaking Dialogue: 0,0:06:41.00,0:06:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,12-year-old children Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.00,0:06:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a South Indian village Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.00,0:06:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teach themselves biotechnology Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.00,0:06:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in English on their own? Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.00,0:06:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I thought, I'll test them, they'll get a zero -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.00,0:06:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll give the materials, I'll come back and test them -- Dialogue: 0,0:06:55.00,0:06:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they get another zero, Dialogue: 0,0:06:57.00,0:07:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll go back and say, "Yes, we need teachers for certain things." Dialogue: 0,0:07:01.00,0:07:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I called in 26 children. Dialogue: 0,0:07:03.00,0:07:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all came in there, and I told them Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.00,0:07:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there's some really difficult stuff on this computer. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.00,0:07:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wouldn't be surprised if you didn't understand anything. Dialogue: 0,0:07:10.00,0:07:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's all in English, and I'm going. Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.00,0:07:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.00,0:07:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I left them with it. Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.00,0:07:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came back after two months, Dialogue: 0,0:07:19.00,0:07:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the 26 children marched in looking very, very quiet. Dialogue: 0,0:07:21.00,0:07:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Well, did you look at any of the stuff?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.00,0:07:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said, "Yes, we did." Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.00,0:07:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Did you understand anything?" "No, nothing." Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.00,0:07:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.00,0:07:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Well, how long did you practice on it Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.00,0:07:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before you decided you understood nothing?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:35.00,0:07:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They said, "We look at it every day." Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.00,0:07:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I said, "For two months, you were looking at stuff you didn't understand?" Dialogue: 0,0:07:40.00,0:07:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So a 12 year-old girl raises her hand and says, Dialogue: 0,0:07:42.00,0:07:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally, Dialogue: 0,0:07:45.00,0:07:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Apart from the fact that improper replication of the DNA molecule Dialogue: 0,0:07:48.00,0:07:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,causes genetic disease, Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.00,0:07:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we've understood nothing else." Dialogue: 0,0:07:52.00,0:07:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.00,0:08:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.00,0:08:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.00,0:08:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It took me three years to publish that. Dialogue: 0,0:08:06.00,0:08:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just been published in the British Journal of Educational Technology. Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.00,0:08:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One of the referees who refereed the paper said, Dialogue: 0,0:08:12.00,0:08:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"It's too good to be true," Dialogue: 0,0:08:15.00,0:08:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which was not very nice. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.00,0:08:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, one of the girls had taught herself Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.00,0:08:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become the teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.00,0:08:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then that's her over there. Dialogue: 0,0:08:31.00,0:08:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, they don't study English. Dialogue: 0,0:08:46.00,0:08:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I edited out the last bit when I asked, "Where is the neuron?" Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.00,0:08:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she says, "The neuron? The neuron," Dialogue: 0,0:08:51.00,0:08:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then she looked and did this. Dialogue: 0,0:08:54.00,0:08:57.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Whatever the expression, it was not very nice. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.00,0:09:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So their scores had gone up from zero to 30 percent, Dialogue: 0,0:09:00.00,0:09:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is an educational impossibility under the circumstances. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.00,0:09:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But 30 percent is not a pass. Dialogue: 0,0:09:06.00,0:09:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I found that they had a friend, Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.00,0:09:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a local accountant, a young girl, Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.00,0:09:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they played football with her. Dialogue: 0,0:09:12.00,0:09:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked that girl, "Would you teach them Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.00,0:09:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enough biotechnology to pass?" Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.00,0:09:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And she said, "How would I do that? I don't know the subject." Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.00,0:09:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "No, use the method of the grandmother." Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.00,0:09:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said, "What's that?" Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.00,0:09:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Well, what you've got to do Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.00,0:09:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is stand behind them Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.00,0:09:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and admire them all the time. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.00,0:09:31.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just say to them, 'That's cool. That's fantastic. Dialogue: 0,0:09:31.00,0:09:34.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is that? Can you do that again? Can you show me some more?'" Dialogue: 0,0:09:34.00,0:09:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She did that for two months. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.00,0:09:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The scores went up to 50, Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.00,0:09:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is what the posh schools of New Delhi, Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.00,0:09:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a trained biotechnology teacher were getting. Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.00,0:09:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I came back to Newcastle Dialogue: 0,0:09:45.00,0:09:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with these results Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.00,0:09:49.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and decided Dialogue: 0,0:09:49.00,0:09:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there was something happening here Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.00,0:09:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that definitely was getting very serious. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.00,0:09:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, having experimented in all sorts of remote places, Dialogue: 0,0:09:58.00,0:10:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came to the most remote place that I could think of. Dialogue: 0,0:10:01.00,0:10:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.00,0:10:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Approximately 5,000 miles from Delhi Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.00,0:10:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is the little town of Gateshead. Dialogue: 0,0:10:09.00,0:10:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Gateshead, I took 32 children Dialogue: 0,0:10:12.00,0:10:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I started to fine-tune the method. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.00,0:10:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made them into groups of four. Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.00,0:10:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "You make your own groups of four. Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.00,0:10:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Each group of four can use one computer and not four computers." Dialogue: 0,0:10:23.00,0:10:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember, from the Hole in the Wall. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.00,0:10:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"You can exchange groups. Dialogue: 0,0:10:28.00,0:10:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can walk across to another group, Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.00,0:10:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you don't like your group, etc. Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.00,0:10:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can go to another group, peer over their shoulders, see what they're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:10:35.00,0:10:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come back to you own group and claim it as your own work." Dialogue: 0,0:10:38.00,0:10:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I explained to them Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.00,0:10:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that, you know, a lot of scientific research is done using that method. Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.00,0:10:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.00,0:10:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:10:52.00,0:10:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children enthusiastically got after me and said, Dialogue: 0,0:10:54.00,0:10:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Now, what do you want us to do?" Dialogue: 0,0:10:56.00,0:10:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I gave them six GCSE questions. Dialogue: 0,0:10:59.00,0:11:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first group -- the best one -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.00,0:11:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,solved everything in 20 minutes. Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.00,0:11:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The worst, in 45. Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.00,0:11:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They used everything that they knew -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.00,0:11:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,news groups, Google, Wikipedia, Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.00,0:11:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ask Jeeves, etc. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.00,0:11:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The teachers said, "Is this deep learning?" Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.00,0:11:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Well, let's try it. Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.00,0:11:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll come back after two months. Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.00,0:11:21.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll give them a paper test -- Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.00,0:11:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,no computers, no talking to each other, etc." Dialogue: 0,0:11:23.00,0:11:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The average score when I'd done it with the computers and the groups Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.00,0:11:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was 76 percent. Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.00,0:11:29.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I did the experiment, when I did the test, Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.00,0:11:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after two months, the score Dialogue: 0,0:11:32.00,0:11:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was 76 percent. Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.00,0:11:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was photographic recall Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.00,0:11:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside the children, Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.00,0:11:42.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I suspect because they're discussing with each other. Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.00,0:11:44.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A single child in front of a single computer Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.00,0:11:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will not do that. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.00,0:11:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I have further results, Dialogue: 0,0:11:48.00,0:11:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which are almost unbelievable, Dialogue: 0,0:11:50.00,0:11:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of scores which go up with time. Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.00,0:11:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because their teachers say Dialogue: 0,0:11:54.00,0:11:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that after the session is over, Dialogue: 0,0:11:56.00,0:11:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the children continue to Google further. Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.00,0:12:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here in Britain, I put out a call Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.00,0:12:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for British grandmothers, Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.00,0:12:05.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after my Kuppam experiment. Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.00,0:12:07.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, you know, Dialogue: 0,0:12:07.00,0:12:09.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're very vigorous people, British grandmothers. Dialogue: 0,0:12:09.00,0:12:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,200 of them volunteered immediately. Dialogue: 0,0:12:11.00,0:12:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.00,0:12:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The deal was that they would give me Dialogue: 0,0:12:16.00,0:12:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one hour of broadband time, Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.00,0:12:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sitting in their homes, Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.00,0:12:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one day in a week. Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.00,0:12:24.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they did that, Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.00,0:12:26.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and over the last two years, Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.00,0:12:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over 600 hours of instruction Dialogue: 0,0:12:28.00,0:12:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has happened over Skype, Dialogue: 0,0:12:30.00,0:12:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using what my students call the granny cloud. Dialogue: 0,0:12:33.00,0:12:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The granny cloud sits over there. Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.00,0:12:39.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can beam them to whichever school I want to. Dialogue: 0,0:12:45.00,0:12:47.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Video) Teacher: You can't catch me. Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.00,0:12:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You say it. Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.00,0:12:53.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't catch me. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.00,0:12:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Children: You can't catch me. Dialogue: 0,0:12:56.00,0:12:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Teacher: I'm the gingerbread man. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.00,0:13:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Children: I'm the gingerbread man. Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.00,0:13:03.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Teacher: Well done. Very good ... Dialogue: 0,0:13:09.00,0:13:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SM: Back at Gateshead, Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.00,0:13:13.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a 10-year-old girl gets into the heart of Hinduism Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.00,0:13:15.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 15 minutes. Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.00,0:13:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, stuff which I don't know anything about. Dialogue: 0,0:13:21.00,0:13:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two children watch a TEDTalk. Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.00,0:13:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted to be footballers before. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.00,0:13:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After watching eight TEDTalks, Dialogue: 0,0:13:27.00,0:13:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wants to become Leonardo da Vinci. Dialogue: 0,0:13:30.00,0:13:33.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.00,0:13:36.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:13:36.00,0:13:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's pretty simple stuff. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.00,0:13:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is what I'm building now -- Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.00,0:13:43.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they're called SOLEs: Self Organized Learning Environments. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.00,0:13:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The furniture is designed Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.00,0:13:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that children can sit in front of big, powerful screens, Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.00,0:13:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big broadband connections, but in groups. Dialogue: 0,0:13:51.00,0:13:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If they want, they can call the granny cloud. Dialogue: 0,0:13:54.00,0:13:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a SOLE in Newcastle. Dialogue: 0,0:13:56.00,0:13:58.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The mediator is from Pune, India. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.00,0:14:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how far can we go? One last little bit and I'll stop. Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.00,0:14:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went to Turin in May. Dialogue: 0,0:14:05.00,0:14:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sent all the teachers away from my group of 10 year-old students. Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.00,0:14:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I speak only English, they speak only Italian, Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.00,0:14:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we had no way to communicate. Dialogue: 0,0:14:14.00,0:14:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started writing English questions on the blackboard. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.00,0:14:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The children looked at it and said, "What?" Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.00,0:14:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Well, do it." Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.00,0:14:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They typed it into Google, translated it into Italian, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.00,0:14:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,went back into Italian Google. Dialogue: 0,0:14:27.00,0:14:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fifteen minutes later -- Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.00,0:14:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,next question: where is Calcutta? Dialogue: 0,0:14:42.00,0:14:45.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This one, they took only 10 minutes. Dialogue: 0,0:14:49.00,0:14:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried a really hard one then. Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.00,0:14:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who was Pythagoras, and what did he do? Dialogue: 0,0:14:57.00,0:14:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was silence for a while, Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.00,0:15:01.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then they said, "You've spelled it wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:15:01.00,0:15:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's Pitagora." Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.00,0:15:10.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.00,0:15:12.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in 20 minutes, Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.00,0:15:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the right-angled triangles began to appear on the screens. Dialogue: 0,0:15:14.00,0:15:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This sent shivers up my spine. Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.00,0:15:19.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are 10 year-olds. Dialogue: 0,0:15:32.00,0:15:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Text: In another 30 minutes they would reach the Theory of Relativity. And then? Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.00,0:15:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Laughter) Dialogue: 0,0:15:37.00,0:15:46.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause) Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.00,0:15:48.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,SM: So you know what's happened? Dialogue: 0,0:15:48.00,0:15:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think we've just stumbled across Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.00,0:15:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a self-organizing system. Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.00,0:15:54.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A self-organizing system is one Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.00,0:15:56.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where a structure appears Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.00,0:15:59.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,without explicit intervention from the outside. Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.00,0:16:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Self-organizing systems also always show emergence, Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.00,0:16:04.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is that the system starts to do things, Dialogue: 0,0:16:04.00,0:16:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which it was never designed for. Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.00,0:16:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which is why you react the way you do, Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.00,0:16:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because it looks impossible. Dialogue: 0,0:16:11.00,0:16:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think I can make a guess now -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.00,0:16:16.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,education is self-organizing system, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.00,0:16:18.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where learning is an emergent phenomenon. Dialogue: 0,0:16:18.00,0:16:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It'll take a few years to prove it, experimentally, Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.00,0:16:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm going to try. Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.00,0:16:25.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But in the meanwhile, there is a method available. Dialogue: 0,0:16:25.00,0:16:28.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One billion children, we need 100 million mediators -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:28.00,0:16:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there are many more than that on the planet -- Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.00,0:16:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,10 million SOLEs, Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.00,0:16:35.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,180 billion dollars and 10 years. Dialogue: 0,0:16:36.00,0:16:38.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We could change everything. Dialogue: 0,0:16:38.00,0:16:40.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.00,0:16:51.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Applause)