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How to let altruism be your guide

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    So, we humans have
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    an extraordinary potential for goodness,
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    but also an immense power to do harm.
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    Any tool can be used
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    to build or to destroy.
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    That all depends on our motivation.
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    Therefore, it is all the more important
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    to foster an altruistic motivation
    rather than a selfish one.
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    So now, we indeed are facing
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    many challenges in our times.
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    Those could be personal challenges.
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    Our own mind can be our best friend
    or our worst enemy.
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    There's also societal challenges:
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    poverty in the midst of plenty,
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    inequalities, conflict, injustice.
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    And then there are the new challenges,
    which we don't expect.
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    Ten thousand years ago, there was
    about five million human beings on Earth.
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    Whatever they could do,
    the Earth's resilience
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    will soon heal human activities.
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    After the Industrial
    and Technological Revolutions,
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    that's not the same anymore.
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    We are now the major agent
    of impact on our Earth.
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    We've entered the Anthropocene,
    the era of human beings.
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    So in a way, if we were to say,
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    "we need to continue this endless growth,
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    endless use of material resources",
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    it's like saying if this man was saying,
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    and I heard the former heads of state,
    I won't mention who, saying,
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    "Five years ago, we were at
    the edge of the precipice.
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    Today we made a big step forward."
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    So this edge is the same
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    which have been defined by scientists
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    as the planetary boundaries,
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    and within those boundaries,
    they can carry a number of factors.
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    We can still prosper, humanity can still
    prosper for 150,000 years
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    if we keep the same stability of climate
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    as in the Holocene
    for the last 10,000 years.
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    But this depends on choosing
    a voluntary simplicity,
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    growing qualitatively, not quantitatively.
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    So in 1900, as you can see,
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    we were well within the limits of safety.
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    Now, in 1950 came the great acceleration.
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    Now hold your breath, not too long,
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    to imagine what comes next, now.
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    We have vastly overrun
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    some of the planetary boundaries.
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    Just to take biodiversity,
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    at the current rate, in 2050,
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    30 percent of all species on Earth
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    will have disappeared.
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    Even if we keep their DNA in some fridge,
    that's not going to be reversible.
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    So here I am sitting in front
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    of a 7,000 meters high,
    21,000 feet glacier in Bhutan.
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    The third pole, two thousand glaciers
    are melting fast, faster than the Arctic.
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    So what can we do in that situation?
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    Well, however complex,
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    politically, economically, scientifically
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    the question of the environment is,
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    it simply boils down to a question
    of altruism versus selfishness.
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    I'm a Marxist of the Groucho tendency.
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    (Laughter)
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    Groucho Marx said, "Why should I care
    for future generations?
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    What did they do for me?"
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    (Laughter)
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    Unfortunately, I heard
    the billionaire Steven Forbes,
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    on Fox News, saying exactly the same thing,
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    but seriously.
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    He was told about the rise of the ocean,
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    and he said, "I find it absurd
    to change my behavior today
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    for something that will happen
    in a hundred years."
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    So if you don't care
    for future generations,
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    just go for it.
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    So one of the main challenges of our times
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    is to reconcile three time scales.
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    The short term of the economy,
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    the ups and downs of the stock market,
    the end of the year accounts.
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    The midterm of the quality of life:
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    what is the quality every moment of
    our life and over 10 years and 20 years?
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    And the long term of the environment.
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    When the environmentalists
    speak with economists,
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    it's like a schizophrenic dialogue,
    completely incoherent.
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    They don't speak the same language.
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    Now for the last 10 years,
    I went around the world
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    meeting economists, scientists,
    neuroscientists, environmentalists,
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    philosophers, thinkers, in the Himalayas,
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    all over the place.
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    It seems to be, there's only one concept
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    that can reconcile
    those three time scales.
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    It is simply having more
    consideration for others.
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    If you have more consideration for others,
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    you will be having a caring economics,
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    where finances are the service of society
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    and not society
    at the service of finances.
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    You will not play at the casino
    with the resources that people
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    have entrusted you with.
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    If you have more consideration for others,
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    you will make sure
    that you remedy inequality,
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    that you bring some kind of well being
    within the society,
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    in education, at the workplace.
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    Otherwise, a nation that is
    the most powerful and the richest,
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    everyone is miserable.
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    What's the point?
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    And if you have more
    consideration for others,
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    you are not going to ransack
    that planet that we have
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    and that at the current rate, we don't
    have three planets to continue that way.
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    So the question is,
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    okay, altruism is the answer,
    it's not just a novel ideal,
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    but can it be a real, pragmatic solution?
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    And first of all, does it exist,
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    true altruism, or are we so selfish?
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    So some philosophers thought
    we were irredeemably selfish.
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    You know, but are we really
    all just like rascals?
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    That's good news, isn't it?
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    Many philosophers like Hobbes have said so.
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    But not everyone looks like a rascal,
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    or is man a wolf for man?
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    But this guy doesn't seem too bad.
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    He's one of my friends in Tibet.
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    He's very kind.
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    So now, we love cooperation.
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    There's no better joy than work together.
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    Isn't it?
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    And then not only humans.
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    Then, of course, there's
    the struggle for life,
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    the survival of the fittest,
    Social Darwinism.
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    But in evolution, cooperation,
    though competition exists, of course.
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    Cooperation is much more creative
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    to go to increased level of complexity.
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    We are super cooperators and we
    should even go further.
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    So now, on top of that,
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    the quality of human relationships,
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    you know, the OECD did a survey
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    among 10 factors,
    including income, everything,
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    the first one that people said
    that's the main thing for my happiness
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    is quality of social relationships.
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    Not only in humans.
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    And look at those great grandmothers.
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    So now,
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    this idea that we go deep within,
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    we are irredeemably selfish,
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    this is armchair science.
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    There is not a single sociological study,
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    psychological study,
    that's ever shown that.
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    Rather, the opposite.
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    My friend [Daniel Batthson??]
    spent a whole life
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    putting people in the lab
    in very complex situations,
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    and of course we are sometimes selfish
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    and some people more than others.
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    But he found that systematically,
    no matter what,
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    there's a significant number of people
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    who do behave altruistically,
    no matter what.
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    Now if you see someone
    deeply wounded, great suffering,
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    you might just help
    out of empathic distress.
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    You can't stand it,
    so it's better to help
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    than keep on looking at that person.
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    So we tested all that, and in the end,
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    he said, "clearly people
    can be altruistic", so that's good news.
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    And even further, we should look
    at the banality of goodness.
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    Now look at here.
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    When we come out, we are going to say,
    "That's so nice, there was no fistfight
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    while this mob
    was thinking about altruism."
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    No, we expect that, isn't it?
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    If there was a fistfight,
    we would speak of that for months.
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    So the banality of goodness is something
    that doesn't attract your attention,
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    but it exists.
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    Now, look at this. Look at this.
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    Okay.
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    So some psychologists said,
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    when I tell them I run
    140 humanitarian projects
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    in the Himalayas
    that give me so much joy,
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    they said, "oh, I see,
    you work for the warm glow."
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    That is not altruistic.
    You just feel good.
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    You think this guy,
    when he jumped in front of the train,
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    he thought, "I'm going to feel
    so good when this is over?"
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    (Laughter).
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    But that's not the end of it.
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    They say, well, but when
    you interviewed him, he said,
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    "I had no choice,
    I had to jump, of course."
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    He has no choice. Automatic behavior.
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    It's neither selfish nor altruistic.
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    No choice.
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    Well, of course, this guy's
    not going to think for half an hour,
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    should I give my hand, not give my hand?
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    He does it. There is a choice,
    but it's obvious, it's immediate.
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    And then, also, here they have a choice.
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    So now, there are people who had choice,
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    like Pastor André Trocmé and his wife,
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    and the whole village
    of Chambon-sur-Lignon in France.
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    For the whole Second World War,
    they saved 3,500 Jews,
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    gave them shelter,
    brought them to Switzerland,
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    against all odds, at the risk
    of their lives and that of their family.
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    So altruism does exist.
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    So what is altruism?
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    It is the wish "may others be happy
    and find the cause of happiness.
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    Now empathy is the effective resonance
    or cognitive resonance that tells you,
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    this personality is joyful,
    this person suffers.
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    But empathy enough is not sufficient.
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    If you keep on being
    confronted with suffering,
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    you might have empathic distress, burnout,
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    so you need the greater sphere
    of loving kindness.
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    With Daniel Singer at the
    [??] Institute of Leipzig,
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    we showed that the brain network
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    for empathy and loving kindness
    are different.
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    Now, that's all well done,
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    so we got that from evolution,
    from maternal care, parental love,
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    but we need to extend that.
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    Can we extend it to other species?
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    Now, if we want a more altruistic society,
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    we need two things:
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    individual change and societal change.
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    So is individual change possible?
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    Two thousand years
    of contemplative study said yes, it is.
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    Now, 15 years of collaboration
    with neuroscience and epigeneticists
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    said yes, our brains change
    when you train in altruism.
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    So I spent 120 hours in an MRI machine.
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    This is the first time I went
    after two and a half hours.
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    And then, the result
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    -- I've been published
    in many scientific papers --
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    it shows without ambiguity
    that there are structural change
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    and functional change in the brain
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    when you train the altruistic love.
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    Just to give you an idea:
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    this is the meditator at rest on the left,
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    meditation in compassion meditation,
    you see all the activity,
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    and then the control group at rest,
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    nothing happened,
    in meditation, nothing happened.
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    They have not been trained.
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    So, do you need 50,000
    hours of meditation?
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    No, you don't.
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    Four weeks, 20 minutes a day,
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    of caring, mindfulness meditation
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    already brings a structural change
    in the brain compared to a control group.
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    That's only 20 minutes a day
    for four weeks.
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    Even with preschoolers,
    we showed in Madison,
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    eight weeks program, gratitude,
    loving kindness, cooperation,
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    mindful breathing, you would say,
    "Oh, they're just preschoolers."
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    Look after eight weeks.
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    The pro-social behavior,
    that's the blue line,
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    and then come the ultimate
    scientific test, the stickers test.
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    Before, you determine for each child
    who is their best friend in the class,
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    their least favorite child,
    the unknown child, and the sick child,
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    and they have to give stickers away.
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    So before the intervention,
    they give most of it to their best friend.
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    Four, five years old, 20 minutes,
    three times a week.
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    After the intervention,
    no more discrimination.
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    The same amount of stickers
    to their best friend
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    and the least favorite child.
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    You know, that's something we should do
    in all the schools in the world.
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    Now, where do we go from there?
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    (Applause)
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    When the Dalai Lama heard that,
    his solution, he said,
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    "You go to 10 schools, 100 schools,
    the U.N., the whole world."
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    So now where do we go from there?
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    Individual change is possible.
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    Now, do we have to wait
    for an altruistic gene
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    to be in the human race?
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    That will take 50,000 years,
    too much for the environment.
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    Fortunately, there is
    the evolution of culture.
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    Cultures, as specialists have shown,
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    change faster than genes.
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    That's the good news.
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    Look at attitudes towards war
    has dramatically changed over the years.
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    So now, individual change
    and cultural change
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    mutually fashion each other,
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    and yes, we can achieve
    a more altruistic society.
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    So where do we go from there?
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    Myself, I will go back to the East.
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    Now, we treat 100,000 patients
    a year in our projects.
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    We have 25,000 kids in school,
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    four percent overhead.
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    Some people say, "Well,
    your stuff works in practice,
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    but does it work in theory?"
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    So there's always the positive deviance.
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    So I will also go back to my hermitage
    to find the inner resources
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    to better serve others.
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    But on the more global level,
    what can we do?
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    We need three things.
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    Enhancing cooperation,
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    cooperative learning in the school
    instead of competitive learning,
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    unconditional cooperation
    within corporations.
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    There can be some competition
    between corporations, but not within.
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    We need sustainable harmony.
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    I love this term.
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    Not sustainable growth anymore.
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    Sustainable harmony means now
    we will reduce inequality.
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    In the future, we do more with less,
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    and we continue to grow qualitatively,
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    not quantitatively.
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    We need caring economics.
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    The old economics cannot deal
    with poverty in the midst of plenty,
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    cannot deal with the problem
    of the common goods
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    of the atmosphere, of the oceans.
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    We need a caring economics.
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    If you say economics
    should be compassionate,
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    they say, "That's not our job."
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    But if you say they don't care,
    that looks bad.
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    We need local commitment,
    global responsibility.
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    We need to extend altruism
    to the other 1.6 million other species,
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    sentient beings who are
    co-citizens in this world.
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    and we need to dare altruism.
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    So long life to the altruistic revolution.
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    Viva la revolucion de altruismo.
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    (Applause)
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How to let altruism be your guide
Speaker:
Matthieu Ricard
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