Modules & Interfaces

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round three

fight

hello everybody and welcome to a new

glorious day here in the vintage and

dream factory

where this fine gentleman next to me

is trying to build a new marble machine

i am hannes 3000

and how are you today my friend martin

mullin

the thirst for revenge is burning in my

mouth i'm i'm i'm i'm excited today

yesterday i was in the mood

and um if you saw the stream

you witnessed that uh today i feel i

i feel i want to get to work and i know

what i want to do

so it's going to be

um

super more

abstract highest level stream again

and i'm going to uh work on the design

requirements

and someone yesterday in the stream said

as a complicated machine as you're

trying to build i couldn't build it

without thinking in modules and

interfaces

and this just got me

sparked your imagination yeah and it's

but i've been googling a little bit so

uh what we're gonna do in this stream as

you can see in the to-do list is uh

first we're going to learn a little bit

about modules and interfaces

um

and then we're going to use what we

learned to write less dumb design

requirements than we're going to be done

and

i think

basically why i was in a mood yesterday

is that i i haven't been able to make

the decision about how many notes for

the vibraphone so

11 or 37 kind of

and i think

i came to the conclusion i've already

made this decision a lot of times and

walked it back but today honest sir

sir three thousand

um

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i was thinking about the form from

function absolutism

and i was thinking that

wha

what is that and

yesterday we also talked about minimum

viable product which is something in

software which is the smallest version

of an app you can send where where the

user still can use it

and i'm

pretty sure that it's going to be 37

notes on the vibraphone you heard it

here people and i'm pretty sure that

we're gonna use let me just find one

here we're gonna use um

so something else have been on my mind

um

is

i'm gonna just go to tourman um

and get a picture of a vibraphone here

so

the graduated vibraphones

have

different um width of the plates

it's a little bit hard to see it here

but

the center to center between these

plates are different so i thought that

we were going to buy one of these

cut it into pieces and make all the

plates the same distance

and now i think

we're of course not going to do that

we're going to buy one of these

and we're going to put the marble gates

we're going to design the machine after

exactly this and i think you and me can

go on a super fun field trip to germany

and we can live stream like live when

we're trying out because i've been to

tomorrow before there's actually images

um

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i don't know where i have them anyway

but i've been to thomas in germany

before and there's like 10 vibraphones

in the same room

so we can like go there and like live

stream when we try out which one we're

going to use

and

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then we can because

one of the design requirements

to make this machine viable is to use

less custom parts

and

and

an instrument like a vibraphone has been

fine-tuned in forever like a guitar has

been fine-tuned and the design is like

perfected so why redo what they already

have done so instead i'm i'm thinking

right now that we're going to use a

custom microphone the only thing we may

might have to do is that we might have

to still cut it in two pieces so the two

rows might be separated so the upper the

black keys are higher

and then all the white keys but i don't

i want the keys to have

to rest in the same way as they are

built so the resonator pipes the

vibraphone vibrato everything is just as

they built it yeah um

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the sustain pedal is we're gonna have to

fix that if we separate the roads

because

right now it's hard to see in these

images one sustained pedal goes on both

rows i don't like this gold color

um that's that's uh like another issue

it's like the more expensive nice

vibraphones have this gold color i would

like something like this

um it's nicer right

yeah so anyway

i it was so hard for me uh because i

felt like it's just feature creep and

someone's told me feature creep is only

after you frozen the feature set yep

so that's why the famous vasa ship from

a swedish king sank because the king

wanted more and more cannons all the

time so this is not gonna be the master

ship and another thing that is maybe a

burden of my mind it's um

the fact that because i was thinking

yeah i should probably just use 11 notes

like on the previous machines and have

the footprint and

now i realize there's because the

audience loves

everyone knows these machines everyone

roots rooting for me to make this

machine that we have on picture here to

work

and i finally decoupled myself from this

form form factor i want to build a

functional machine yeah and i will do i

want to build a machine also i was

thinking i want to play a lot of waltzes

so like the things i've been playing

all that and

and i want to tell like longer stories

and i want to make like a real music

instrument so 37 notes

custom

no custom parts from the vibraphone some

custom solutions by cutting it up a

little bit

i think this is going to be like

um

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anyway that's my assumption for today

and yesterday i didn't know what to do

so that's why i feel a little bit better

today that's why i know what we should

do

and could be right almost the first

real decision now on the machine this is

how it's going to be

everything has been a lot of

figuring out

now

yeah this is like a weak part of me and

that i

that i'm i think it's called being a

maximizer it's not a good thing or a

perfectionist it's like that i

i'm having issues like

i'm learning a lot from you actually

like making a decision and stick stick

with it yeah because it's all this

thought what if we can make it even

better and i think

if i keep on thinking what if i can make

it even better this machine will

absolutely never never be finished there

will never be a world tour i won't be

able to write songs i won't be able to

decide on

anything

so it's almost a meta

my main motivation now i've been

thinking a lot

in therapy there's something called the

act uh therapy

acceptance commitment therapy

and one of the things you're doing that

is that you're

kind of working with an ultimate image

of

how you want to function in the future

as a person as an individual yeah and

it's very very high level and i think

like one of the things that i think

main motivation for me right now

is to kind of become a person who can

actually make decisions who can actually

finish something

and i think

the safe the safer decision on

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between 11 notes on the verb phone and

37 and what can be future save for me is

a 37 yeah it's a full music instrument

and it

and i think the problems

the problem we would have and also

so secondly then what i've decided is to

not have the instruments on top of each

other so vibraphone in one place

drums somewhere else

because like on these um

previous machines

i'm sick and tired of of like

knowing the simplest most logical form

from function mechanical solution but

not having the space for it yeah

so i'm gonna allow the instruments to

use the space they need and the

vibraphone needs some stuff drums needs

completely different stuff so let's not

like

put them in the on the same

it may be like a three-course meal what

about that

yeah do you put your ice cream on your

pasta

no

and and the precourse it sounds good in

your mind to add everything but look

look at the result here it looks cool

doesn't work

that's ice cream and pasta right there

mmx

yeah

do we have this one oh we have it

so here is ice cream on pasta

and when when when you sit down and eat

it you serve it at your restaurants and

your reviews afterwards is only one star

because they were like it's the best ice

cream ever and it's the best pasta ever

but just we couldn't feel the tastes you

know yeah and that's why on the new

machine

um

so yeah

that's why i feel not good today so

let's get into um

what what do you feel by the way before

we leave this you

how does this sound to you right now i

love this so much because

after all the hurdles of the past weeks

it's been a lot of like back and forth

and trying to find something

actually yesterday was a

semi-breakthrough where we actually

found the real mvp where it needs to be

focused and that is the vibraphone

that's the main thing you really want

you need it to tell your stories and it

needs to be 37. so

after all those hurdles we now have a

decision

yes yes we're gonna we're gonna stick

with this focus on the mvp right now

that's a vibraphone

that's the first thing to

solve

do you know what i like what i realized

yesterday hannes

um our action cam is a little bit bad

today but let's let's see let's try it

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anyway

i i realized something yesterday that 11

notes

the vibraphone can almost not

um play chords and melody so

with 37 notes we get two instruments

from the vibraphone

so

of course i made i made this um i can't

where where it's actually here

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so so this is a

magical composition with only 11 notes

it is genius

i mean if i say so myself

it's beautiful in its simplicity what

you can get out of 11 note that's not a

challenge i want to live with for the

rest of my life i i did it once it's

enough so uh you can almost

so with 11 notes the chords are going to

be very close to the melody always so

you only have it like this and i kind of

maximize that on on the first machine

if we have 37 notes

oh what's something happen oh yeah okay

now let's see if we have

37 notes

imagine you could have a melody

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you can you can play real chords

under the vibraphone could do

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down there and then

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answering itself

so we get

two instruments instead of one if we

just allow ourselves to have the

vibraphone take the space it's needing

so

that's what we're gonna do

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not working not walking that back

anytime soon

that's go how it's going to be

oh

so

and to

this was kind of the missing piece for

me to to to keep on working

and this leads into the title of the

video

modules and interfaces and i think i'm

going to start to

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name

the modules and the interfaces that i

know that we will have and i'm going to

start to number them so i'm gonna start

to work on a pbs actually

um

pbs stands for

product breakdown system oof that's a

cool one um so this is the pbs and i'm

going to

um delete everything here

and

i learned from rudy from grand garage

very simple numbering structure so this

is this was highly controversial on the

machine x project but the numbering

structure i'm gonna go with on this

machine is the simplest ever it's

um

so let's see if i can zoom in on this

over here it's maybe okay

so we're gonna have it like this zero

zero

um

okay i have to reformat s because it

doesn't take the second 0. i have to

reformat as

plain text

zero zero dash zero zero

that is

machine three

oh

yes

and

why are you a square

hope everyone is doing

fine by the way in chat nice when you

treat them with that beautiful playing

in

directly in the stream we got them

hooked immediately here

as gonzonetre says here chills

mr grandson

sacha gretzky here hero of engineer

um airflow tube best melody ever

gone

by the way guns and nature have this

marble divider which is the i'm thinking

a lot about your marble divider gone

snatcher when i'm lying home trying to

sleep at night

because you did the split um

with lego

the simple split why split marble

divider we we're going to look at that

later ever you want to show another

comment sorry satish kumar add an

uh

yeah

before number thank you

thank you satish

um perfect and yoshik v tumanai thumbs

up for the full size vibraphone thank

you

and we also have satish

kumar mvp is full vibraphone yes yes

there's where we're going people whoa

so

um

first of all numbering structure then

let's see here no i think zero zero is

the marble machine three

and then

zero one

is going to be

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um

let's start let's start where everything

begins programming

programming wheel

um

and then if we have a sub component of

the programming wheel

that's going to be like zero one zero

one and th if we have a sub component of

that that's gonna be i should probably

make them in different

columns let's do that

um

some guy says

11

37 dot dot whatever you do make sure

it's a prime number

and then jerome blom share yes make them

twin primes

and that's so funny because hannes what

is a prime number oh do you think i

remember that we talked about it in the

gym this morning we googled what why

prime numbers are exciting at the gym

this morning because no you knew is

better than me yeah

so

don't you remember i'm just trying to

phrase it in my mind

like

four is

no

five is a prime number

and why because you can't

you need two

two plus two is four

you need to have two equals that add up

to

the number it's so hard to explain

you three plus two

it needs to be

two of the same

equals

right

do it

explain to me i had it wrong this

morning a prime number is a number where

two

smaller natural numbers can't be

um

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oh i forgot

can't be

you can't

put

added to each other and then make up the

number

lucas vendel only divisible by one and

itself okay that's again there we go

drop the mic

um

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so

what i want to do in this stream here so

we're already at point two writing

design requirements i wanna start

noting out the big modules

because i want to start your thinking in

modules and interfaces which i think

means

you have a module that sits together

like

here is a module

and the interface is the kind of the

cable and probably software so since

we're in a physical world now maybe

that was a bad example

um

so i think

the coffee mug is a module and the

handle is the interface is that could

that be something

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am i onto something

zero two high level big stuff here

programming wheel is the program

um

so

where where should we go from here

let's say

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um maybe we should think of it as a user

input so maybe zero one is drive train

drivetrain

this is flash scene zero never mind this

chat never ever gets read

i just want to prove to you that i read

i can't always read everything

and mostly i try to keep it on topic for

me and martin

some can to what we're talking about

but if you have brilliant suggestions i

will pull them up if i don't understand

them perhaps they're even greater than

my mind you know then you should upload

them to our dropbox system

and you can do that if you go to the

document central on

the website it's a link in this

description as well and you can paste

your ideas there if you have some great

ideas don't trust me

to figure out your brilliance out there

sometimes i miss stuff the one place

where we check at everything is dropbox

submissions and in in the documentation

central you have a

thorough um

oh i'm missing the no back to front

pages here

so in in this document

here how to upload your design

suggestion images and videos

click that link and and read the

instructions and follow that and we will

look at everything and hannes is uh here

to read the chat full time

uh but hannes is deliberately choosing

to keep uh on topic to not derail me

from from the work i'm trying to do

so there there you go that's the that's

the that's how we are trying to set this

up um

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let's see here

where is the pbs

here

there we go

um

so yeah this it doesn't really matter

here which order i put them in but we're

gonna leave with this pretty long

and then i'm going to use the same

number for the design requirements

that's where i'm going with this so we

can get a little structure

um

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so i'm just have to think where i should

start

so in cad i started with the programming

wheel

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yeah why not do that actually that's it

doesn't matter

programming wheel which is a big one

loop wheel

here

gilda's p is marble machine 3 the

official name

for now it is at least until something

brilliant just comes out of the clear

sky

i would like to maybe just call it the

marble machine i think it's the same

machine i've been building all the time

yeah so it's just versions of the same

machine so

they're like

world tour vint garden featuring the

marble machine i think that's cooler

so nothing so i think the official name

is the marble machine and we just say

three now to separate them

loop wheel

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so what else

um

and doro just

says here start with listing the

components you can renumber them in a

second step

just to keep it up for you

yes that's that's good so let's do

vibraphone

let's do um kick drum

thanks for that suggestion that was

exactly what i what i needed to hear

snare drum hi-hat

we have um

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crank

crank and pedal

power input cogno marco interface should

be understood as the boundary among two

or more product

modules

okay cool this is this is this is good i

need to understand this um

i have notes in the design requests

let's go there i saw them there

here design requirements

so let's go out here

i'm gonna paste that here

interface equals the boundary

among

two or more

product modules

great

so the boundary so question for chat um

when a programming pane

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so a programming pin that goes into the

programming wheel

is a programming pin a module

and the hole is

in interface

or is that too too tiny is that

interface for example the programming

pin touching the registrators because it

feels like registrators are a module

programming wheel is a module

and then the pin

interfacing the boundary with uh

touching the registrators

that feels like that's an interface but

how far down do we go yeah let's see we

have a couple here let's see what sean

lebell says

i think the interface is more about how

the model go together it is not always a

physical thing i think it's more about

defining boundaries and how modules

interact at these boundaries

and

jiron says the registrators are an

interface between the programming wheel

the muting system and the marble

droppers

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okay so

so as always it's kind of like you can

you can use these words

on a little bit different levels and in

different ways

um

when i googled it

this morning it's mostly software stuff

um so what are modules in system

uh here's hardware a module is a

separate unit

of software or hardware

typical characteristics of modular

components include portability which

allows them to let's not use this module

like that okay

um pablo edwardo interfaces can be

abstract for example a marble gate might

have a trigger interface defined

and you might implement multiple

triggering systems that work with that

interface for example program plus

mutual

at a manual i mean

so

what if

suggestion for chat let me know what you

think about this

what if we make

modules like the physical assemblies

and interfaces is more a theoretical

abstraction of

uh how they interact so

bowdoin cable is is is a is a good idea

the bounding cable is actually done a

module

but the actual pulling of the bounding

cable

the actu the action

is the interface kind of the thing that

happens not the thing itself um sector

kumar says here like programming pin

will be interface between the wheel and

the registrator

okay so

according to that the setup is saying

here then the bounding cable is an

interface

between registrator and marble gate

programming pin will be the interface

between the

so it's it's maybe so okay

mark marketing the interface is where

the pin and the registrator connect i

think

yeah so here we have two different

options

um

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so what what mark is suggesting here is

more of the abstract thing there's

actually not a physical item

representing the interface the interface

is the action the pin is hitting the

next thing that's the interfacing

surface kind of that's where they

interface and in my mind

this is easier because

we have physical things

and we have

abstract uh we have actions theoretical

or practical actions

um

but what sages said

um the actual physical pin

is the interface

then the actual physical bounding cable

is the interface

pablo edwardo exactly martin bowden

cable is just an implementation to

satisfy an interface

okay

because this will make it easy

i'm leaning to using these definitions

because this will make it easier to to

write the lists and stuff when all the

physical objects can be can be modules

and then the pulling

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is the action is the interface so

interesting and davissimo123

interfaces should be how modules are

connected not a component okay but then

we're then we're getting a little bit of

consensus around this so

uh and satish adds here how they

interact will be the interface okay so

sages is also on board we have consensus

we have consensus here right now modules

i'm going to make a very simple

definition down here

in the left of your screen modules

equals

the physical objects

and then add another

row um

interfaces

the

the action

that happens i don't have a battery

right now

pulling

so so as a physical object

powering cable

and the action that happens is pulling

and i think this is a super good base

for

cleaning and getting the design

requirement document much more um

because i've been

in the design requirement document we

still have a lot of great suggestions i

hope to go through them during this

stream and i'm moving all of these into

here

and

i think i've been confused around like

very much how to fundamentally build

this document

and i think when i have a pbs built on

modules and interfaces

and i think that's can be done the base

structure to kind of then go in and

write the design requirement for each

module and the design requirement for

each interface

so actually kind of cool

maybe we should have like a numbering

system

in the pbs

this is not how a pbs normally is used

but

maybe we can even have numbers here for

interfaces

so

this could actually be very helpful so

let's say that

i'm just making an example here 0101

um

for example

is a programming pin

and then

yeah

from this is interesting also from

machias levicek

in code the interface is in

interface in a set way defining how two

components interact so that if you

change one or the other as long as you

keep obeying the interface modules keep

being compatible

that's from the software

coding right so that if you change one

or the other as long as you keep obeying

the interface modules keep being

compatible

and that's very interesting let me see

if i can

defining how two components interact so

that if you change one or the other as

long as you keep obeying the interface

modules keep being compatible so for

example

say i want a new programming wheel

another size

in the interface or or another

registrator because the registration

failed

the interface is pulling

and we have a design requirement in the

interface that says

it has to pull exactly 20 millimeter

yeah and then let go

then

if i make new registrators that looks

completely different but also pulls

exactly 20 millimeter

then um

then the marble gate will be happy yeah

this is so cool so the interfacing is

almost like sending all

major rules the rules of the machine

that it needs to obey yeah so just like

we have design requirements for the

physical things like 37 notes yeah um we

can have a design requirement that the

travel length

of the bounding cable is 20 millimeters

yeah

and

um can you show me the same comment

again

i i want to take some notes from that

one

um

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so i've been thinking a lot about

when i'm trying to learn these kind of

things

and i'm going to be

um

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better at just picking the chairs that

are helping me because my project isn't

so

not like a normal engineering project

and i think sometimes i get stuck in

kind of learning the way it's done for

nuclear power plants

and i think like that's a beginner

mistake so just taking

doing it a little bit my own way but not

doing it the way i did um when i when i

built these two machines like we have

some footage from that and

it didn't end well so

we have to kind of um this is my new

idea

that i'll take what i find useful but

then i don't get bogged down with

learning too much about it because it's

not applicable okay so picking up

picking out the raisins from the cake

yes

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in

an interface

equals

a set

definition

of

how two components

interact

um

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if you

change one

component

but obese

base the

rules

for the interface

the two components

will still

be

um

compatible

so this is what pc got wrong right yeah

this is why i overpay for my apple

computers because the components are

always compatible with each other it's

not like you buy a new thing and then

something else doesn't work

and thiru oran and i think a camera lens

bionet is a good example of this the

lens fits if the bionet is compatible

so what is a bionic yeah you mean

where you may when you mount the lens

like if everything is then they it could

be a

50 millimeter short lens or a zoom lens

or

at the mount yeah like the e-mount on

the on the sony cameras ooh

you know that's a great example tarot

and goodyear taking something that you

know we know about uh

something from our world and there are

some words of encouragement for you from

your sheikh v to money sound like you're

starting to get the hang of this martin

you're on the right path

you are teaching me you're teaching me

live it's i absolutely love this

um

so um

example a camera

lens mount

if the mount

is

universal universal

if the mount

the interface

is universal

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any type of lens

will be

mountable that's such bad english

and then we have matias live check here

again so that if you change the size of

the programming wheel as long as it

pulls the same length it will work

awesome

so

this is awesome um

we we used the word a lot assemblies and

sub-assemblies

before and um

so i think like module

um the word module is actually exactly

going to be used as we used we used to

use the word assemblies

um

so maybe i'm just going to call them

assemblies and sub or

modules and sub modules yeah uh just to

be fancy so to go with this module and

interface um thing

let's go and see

and here we have a nice little

explanation on the software side again

here from

xe4lu for duo one

encoded interface is usually on the side

that provides a result example the

website has the interface and the client

sends requests

the pin is input to the registrator

interface

on this i have to process this

the website has the interface and the

client sensor requests

the pin is input to the registrator

interface

so

the programming pin

okay so the programming pin is like the

website user

uh

searching for something on on like

google search

and saying

bam and when it hits the registrator the

registrators comes up with a result

yeah so it's like

so does that mean there's like an input

output uh framework um

for an interface

so that's that's the next question then

uh for everyone

um

if it's useful to think of input and

output for for when you make design

requirements for an interface maybe

that's

maybe an interface always have input and

output

yes or no

um

probably needs that right

where am i stupid

i don't you're not stupid but um

so i'm going back here

programming pin

zero one zero one for our example and

then i was thinking

if we could do

like an interface number

zero one

um

zero one

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um

either just either just we

we do 99 and we say that 99 is always an

interface so we don't have any

letters

and then

input process output thank you army ceo

um

people say yes yes i think they mean the

input output okay cool

um so then we have um

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paul wilkins yes interfaces are about a

consistent input always having the same

reliable output

cool we go i have to i have to write um

in our we're learning so much we're

learning today this is so fun

this is as soon as the south park

i think we learned something today

the interface is in action

and not a physical item

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interface

equals

i'm behind the names there wait i'm

gonna add more rows

interface

input

process

output

that's super handy because when we're

making the

that's super handy

let's see um

why can't can i never find this one

here we go

so either i do this or i do

um

int

like

no i'm gonna keep it like 99 then it's a

so

um

people saying here also contract is the

main key word when it comes to

interfaces

from paul wilkinson also pablo edwardo

it's your contract between components

tell me more one is a contract

someone said here gamers max16 in code

interface is a contract defining input

and output

can be empty in code

in it okay so the interface is a

contract

it's like a deal we made a deal and here

eric morris reminds us you should be a

bit careful about stretching this

metaphor coding is not the same as

making a physical machine yeah

yeah

this is a very good comment eric

mirrors because this is like where we

have to like just take what we need

and then not not not go too far with it

but what about this here we have

um

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programming pin interface

which then is a completely different

thing coded by a 99 i'm not so happy by

the code

um

your contract

the code contract

everything is contracts now yeah the

contract

i'm not gonna i'm not gonna understand

it right away i i will i will i will

think of it as it's the

that we

two components agreed

to exchange inputs and

to change like information or or

actions

and we agreed what the input is how the

processing should be done and what

output

then will be

or something like that

mark marketing repeating a bit

but i'd love to suggest drawing a block

diagram with the modules connected by

the interfaces i found that incredibly

useful for designing modular stuff

that is probably a super good idea it's

only i think that that's a whole stream

by itself i think because the machine is

so vast i think

i think we should do that um

block diagram let me google block

diagram

um

but i need to first

just get the okay so this is

so it's kind of like this electrical uh

what goes to what

kind of thing

um

this is going to be super fun to make

this when we have the names and

everything

um

but i need to kind of

learn like a software or learn some

so

but this there is probably good software

to do this

yeah do you have a suggestion for our

software to do it i think we should do

it but i think it's the next time pablo

eduardo martin has it right if two

components agree how they talk to each

other they don't care what they do

inside

sounds good

let me keep on with the list here bass

marble

catching marble catcher

marble catcher

marble lifter the block diagram is a

great idea actually yeah

probably

like yeah a lot of

cool apps or programs you can do it in

let's just add some more rows

so

please give me suggestions if because

you know how this machine

looks if you have

any other

um

modules that i should list here very top

level i see this coming up a lot right

now here's from abigabs and draw

a good

program to use

draw io

oh this looks fun

but does it run on ios

on mac os

it's not what it's called yeah

draw i oh

try it free

or maybe i have to go to the app store

note it down somewhere i will take a

look at it right

maybe i can install it during the lunch

yeah

oh look jean

i recognize you

this is exactly what i've been dreaming

of we have live industry

jean-lebel making a brilliant suggestion

in the correct cell in the document um

in here i have to uh write it let's see

can i i can't answer you

but i'm gonna oblige oh i can

spot on

today marblegate

marble gates

draw io is web-based so it runs in the

browser

does it

that's great so why couldn't i i'm just

curious i just wanna

why can't i

try it free

start free trial

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choose a site to start your

free trial

which sites you can install this look at

this off stream martin

oh i'm

thank you i'm getting uh i'm getting um

i'm getting sidetracked back to the list

yeah yeah you're absolutely right

uh thank you sir 3k yeah keeping uh

keeping things together

marble gates

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we have the instruments

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we have frame

we have transportation

transportation

equipment

we have

audio

equipment

transportation equipment is that marble

transportation no it's uh for touring

so is marble transport something

oh marble lift good one

marble lift i saw it from ox through

three f 2d okay

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and then we have marble divider the

horrible

horrible component

oh i'm in the wrong view here we go

funnels such as kumar we have

already up here marble catcher

so that's the that's the funnels

thanks for giving the suggestions in the

document i love it

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there we go

xie4lu4duo1

thanks mom 3000.

my phone kick drum sling from height

bass crank pedal power input

oh gear we don't have drive train i

would i would like to say

gear train

uh or drive

drive train

it's a very big one

including gear train

gear train

oh that's drive train martin that's okay

jean labelle

is on spot here gretzky gretzky jean

already in point 10. i noted it twice

you're dead right

um

hammer jammer

row unit flywheel from sages kumar

absolutely correct flywheel and then we

have also the lever um

levers um we have

levers

and jerome just went in here

it says hammer jammer is a sub component

of the base okay great yeah so let's

let's um

i think that could be

great to actually put the sub components

in different to start a kind of tree

thing so zero

seven

zero one i'm gonna change later

hammer jammer

um

to start building the tree

this machine is so

complex

registrator from jean spot on

19

registrators

um

and if we take a

look at our design requirements we can

see the user inputs we can get some

um

not here

but

here

so

crank football football break

play will decoupling control

i don't need everything right now

highest inputs

i think i think that's all levers

program switches lever

programming state

now here's an interesting very high

level question

um

when we made the design requirements

some

some talked about different states so we

have the playing states when the machine

is playing a song the reprogramming

state when the song is reprogrammed

we have the

transportation state we have the storage

state

um

so i think

um

defining the different states

could be a very good high level thing

because

something has to work in all states and

the the requirements will be different

maybe from different states i don't know

if it's too convoluted and complicated

um

but i'm going to put it in somewhere

here

um

maybe machines they maybe it's a memory

it's a complete section

in the design requirements i i think

this is so great i love the audience we

have when you have stuff like this from

yake

seath

i'm an avionics engineer

and deal with block diagrams and system

interfacing the block diagrams should be

sub systems

for example marblelift subsystem drum

subsystem marble dropper subsystem etc

avionics engineer come on now that's

cool thank you jake um but i don't

understand um

subsystem is that the same as sub module

or sub assemblies that yes yeah probably

um

oh you mean so do you mean

to make a block diagram of the whole

machine is way

probably too hard right

what about we make one diagram per

no

per tree level and what i mean with that

so jake

my question if if you can follow up on

that comment is

do you mean

that it's going to be too high level to

capture the whole machine in one diagram

and that we should make

individual

the one diagram is looking like more

zoomed in on one part is that what you

mean

um because if so i have a suggestion for

how maybe

we could do that

um

if i can only find it

um

i have too many

i have to manipulate

pages here jake says yeah that is right

okay because one idea with this pbs

structure

is that you have different levels so you

have the first level here

which are these numbers

and then you have the second level here

which is the numbers that has a one

so that's the pbs kind of idea with a

product tree

and

perhaps it's possible to make

like

a very high level thing

on this level

and then when number seven has more

components

you make one pair

so we have basically here we would make

19 different block diagrams

look at this what are you doing martin

so on beautiful suggestions uh from from

the audience in the first part of the

stream i have installed something called

draw io i had to like get 100 different

accounts

with stuff that i don't know what it

does to reach this point but here i am

making a block diagram and i think this

is going to be a wonderful wonderful um

more visual way to work

when we're doing kind of theoretical

design with this design requirements and

stuff

and

what we did in the first part

is that we started

with these um which is the

let's see here we can see them a little

bit better

um

the modules so we're defining modules

and interfaces

and i saw a beautiful comment here from

oh is it already gone because i replied

to it

now here it is um so i can't pronounce

it this name

um

but the command is great i see four big

systems the drive system the marble

cycling system

the music control system and instrument

module system five if the frame is

counted as a system and i resonate with

this comment so i think on the first

level i'm gonna keep it much larger

um so

um you could see that we were already up

to 19

levels and what i don't like with this

is that we have

very big things like drivetrain

um

on the same level as something very

small like the flywheel so i think a

good rule is to keep like the scope of

each level of this three kind of similar

size and i think i'm going to do exactly

what this commentary is suggesting

so each instrument is a subsystem with

only one shared parameter the location

of the marble instrument interface to

keep music tempo consistent

um

uploaded a graph to other oh can you

check um

can you check other hanas

um

so

what i'm going to do now is that i'm

going to keep on working on this list

but i'm going to try to work on it

inside

draw io if i can find it

here we are um

so um

let me see how i can frame this better

for you

let's do this but i'm going to try to

frame this software better so you can

see what i'm doing

so a lot of people in chat are probably

good at this software i'm complete

beginner but

that's what makes fun i guess as well so

um

let's erase these test things

and let's put here

um

oh

marble machine

actually i'm gonna skip the whole three

thing

it's just going to be marble machine

from now on

let's take a look at that then oh

so this is from ludovic

um what's this in the other

yeah

drive thank you so much for using our

submissions template i

can't thank you enough for

for trying we're trying to steam

streamline this interaction between us

and when you are on the same board as us

it makes me really really happy

uh

let me just check

oh

yeah do we have you have to click one

more button and then we

no no okay we don't have it

close and not another stream

yeah

um this works perfect now

drive motion brake motion output

marble cycle music control

uh instrument

yeah so also each one is

starting it's like a signal chain i i

love

so signal chains i understand that comes

from i'm producing a lot of music you

always think of of the signal chain as a

flow in one direction

and this is kind of flowing in one

direction

and the symbols here now i love this

um this is kind of what we're going to

do but i'm going to do it here um in

draw io

um

cool cool cool cool just

say the words and i can pull it up for

you if you want to take a look at it

again fantastic

oh i heard a little chime there

that's because tommy

vasquez

gave us a nice nice little super chat

here bringing his support thank you so

much tommy that means a lot to us thank

you so much that that means a lot to us

it's repeating what fantasy said what

that guy said and i yes what he said oh

thank you i just realized that my list

is in the wrong place what happened here

and he also adds here here take my fika

money

it's a fellow fika lover

fika it's a holy ritual we're doing in

sweden it's the holiest thing we have

coffee and figure yeah so actually i'm

having half of afiki right here so

cheers tommy i'm drinking some coffee i

don't have any cookies

though now so doro said here please have

a look into the comments on the dr sheet

of the dock

yes um that's that's part of my to-do

list yep what dora means is um all these

and i'm going to go through them all

um

um

oh you probably mean

these

uh here

it's from amy

uh there's uh the comments from doro an

example of a mind map in dot io

um with some very basic starting points

for the mm3 oh that's brilliant uml is

beneficial relevant for communicating

information here from amica let's show

more

um

whoa

dora made um like dora said

they made um

example one

so let's have a look at that

oh such as can comment here

i mean

if we had like an engineering dial

we would also have us like a software

engineering dial and then we would from

this collaboration we would see the need

for better collaboration tools like uh

of course google is awesome probably i

just can't do them but it's so cool how

we're trying to learn how to collaborate

there is like some better applications

that could be made here i always thought

so like collaborating like this online

is going to be more important i think

there's like some kind of big

opportunities to create like a killer

app

for what we're trying to do

um probably it exists like hundreds of

them but i should have heard about there

is not like

what i mean the youtube for video

sharing but for collaborations i think

like if we created like vintage software

engineering we could create that

together

um and i also wanted to follow up on

jake our aviation expert who made

two quick diagrams for us okay

as he said he would

beautiful

so hang on a little bit marble subsystem

subscription user input instrument

subsystem

long time watcher first time contributor

you made it on your first try jack

because

because the contribution is awesome

thank you so much for showing this this

is and he made another one here oh

martin interface subsystem oh i like

those rectangles with headline

um

functions defines the

subsystem instrument subsystem creates

the sound marble subsystem manipulates

marbles subsystem interfaces are the

ways in which these subsystems interact

eg what is eg actually abbreviated for

uh oh this is latin ergo ergo

nikobo whatever

ergonomical ergonomically

chat will tell us yeah what g is what is

eg

ergo ng

the programming wheel interfaces with

the marble subsystem through the

registrators it's already the first

diagram in a rush this one is a bit

better yeah great so we have the marble

we have the instrument and it's

interesting because jake is on the same

um

way as um the other commenter was to

have fewer big ones let's look a little

bit on uh doroth's

suggestion here

a marble machine in the middle

and then eg equals example

yeah but what does it actually example

grotia

ex

is it italian or is it latin

i'm like a three-year-old there's always

another question yeah

i can't win

so this is

this is beautiful with the shadows and

everything

so but this also exemplifies i think the

the example from doro here that we need

kind of a lot of sub um

so we we need each

block diagram to stay

like

simpler

uh as said this is a very basic thing

and everybody could edit it with having

the right setup duro and that's that's

interesting so that's super good dora so

let me know how to because

maybe later

um

i think right now it's better that i'm

just the only one doing this because i'm

gonna keep it very very simple but maybe

later it would be so nice to make like

um

editable um documents ox3f2d

doris example has more pages open it

withdraw you

draw you

so

yeah that's the

so what can i do here can you open with

open with ah

diagrams.net perhaps

authorization required

so i'm not i'm not going to go into this

right now

i'm going to um

stay a little bit on target to see if i

can create

okay doro says the other pages are blank

okay but that's that's good that's good

okay now we can go back

oop

so

let me just see

mine

my document went away i'm just going to

try to find it

so

i had to start something called

confluence which i don't know what it is

confluence

i don't even know

how i get back to the page

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gazelle you entertain the crowd sir 3k

now are they not entertained by this you

mean

um they're giving us latin

latin

lessons here

so

confluence is kind of a wiki

i don't need the only entertainment i

need comes from this

and you have one guess my friend

what that means

uh wait

that's right we got slice of sparta here

today and yesterday's streams have

looked at some potential purchases for

mm3 and i want to help small scale

testing is important and some physical

engineering will give you a break from

all the cad as a musician and engineer

myself your creativity passion

pragmatism and drive is inspiring keep

up the great work with h3k cheers and

love

that's all kind of useless partners

thank you for supporting and thank you

for saying

smart and useful things on top of that

as well you are a true mvp

you and the vibraphone

definitely and and your point is uh

well taken because um

as soon as we're out of the rough of the

theoretical as soon as we have some

design requirements i want to let

everyone who wants to

take part in the physical prototyping

i would love to promote anyone putting

videos up online for making making

making prototypes and i also want to

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try perhaps with my 3d printer to print

some things in small scale i think you

can learn a lot from that as well so

it's it's a good idea and we can

definitely use the support for for that

purpose exactly so awesome

so this is my id marble machine it's the

this is a classic product tree i'm

drawing here i'm going to draw an arrow

to the to the modules below here

tricky ricky am i missing the short term

slash highlight video somewhere i don't

have time for hours of live stream and i

really want to keep up to date

i'm good that you're pointing this out

we do those short-term highlight videos

on the main vintage youtube channel so

not this one this is vintage on live and

we do them on wednesdays and

today is wednesday so we should do one

later today right martin

yeah so uh every wednesday yeah we do an

eight minute video and um they're

getting simpler and simpler because i

want to spend all the effort here well

when the work is happening so just check

out all the uploads on main channel and

you will be summarized every week on

everything and sometimes it is a bit

tricky to find because we do them as

lives usually so when you go into videos

and looked at the regular uploads

sometimes you don't see them you need to

you need to click on the live button to

find those

live video on the months

you should see them

there gonna use almost exactly this

comment here a drive system marble

cycling

um

hey miss oyoka martin you don't want to

get dragged into confluence it's all

part of the it information systems

management world

[Laughter]

marvel cycle

yeah as long as long as this is the only

thing i'm seeing

i think i think we're fine

i think my type is too big here

let's go down to 12.

wow

should be called

what do you think marble drive system or

drive train

i think it should be drive system

as long as it's

named same in all different documents

we're golden right so now this arrow is

not following i think i can just

like tell it to follow like doing this

oh i love this program

[Laughter]

so

simple

maybe i can reconnect this no that's

another one

let's undo that

can i oh look at this oh wow

but it's still there

and evo akerman i hate confluence it's

so useful

so

um

can i move

i

i'm not okay i click maybe i click this

maybe the easiest is just to delete the

arrow and draw a new one

so

um

what do we have more

um we have

music control system

and instrument module 5 if the frame is

counted as a system

and i'm gonna to deliberately add frame

last

um

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o5 frame i think frame is a system

yes i love this

damian michalak let's jingle the hell

out of this street

thank you so much

you're so awesome you are

our viewers are the best yes

i can't

i'm like my my patients almost ran out

yesterday

and it seems like your patience is still

the patience of the viewers is still

like spot on yes

drive system instrument module music

control

um should i call this then

music

control mute system

and i'm going to

i think this is the easiest way to do

this i'm just reconnecting the arrows

connecting the dots right here

so this is not yet

um

this is not yet like a interface thing

now i'm just making um the this is a

product uh breakdown structure if you

would google that it would look like

this

um

yeah it looks

that's the great thing with this program

it looks professional immediately

yeah it looks like we know what we're

doing yes that's all we want right yes

um

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but i want this arrow to go into the

middle of this oh yeah

but then

then it's going to be a can of worms to

kind of

to go further from here

i think will be

maybe what we should do here

is maybe just list our

what should we do here actually um

we have these nice ones vertical

container

so maybe if this is if this is our most

high level things i'm just going to try

something uh

drive

i was inspired by um the the suggestion

we had

i think vertical containers were used

what is this minus ah ah you can hide it

beautiful oh great

so

and then i think

oh no

so this is basically just

ah wait

okay and there's

we have to do it like this

i thought it was like text in here

so maybe this is not a good idea

o101

crank

oh it's not contained

where's constraints

no it's not it's not

it's not what i thought it was

i thought it was a list

tool

to this

list

how to make another item

this is oh

how do i make an item

copy paste

yeah

copy paste now

you yash has a tip for you there at

first it should stay with one box per

item

later you can add them together for

better visibility

can i

at first you should say one books per

item later you can add them yeah so

what i'm building here is not really

like um

right now i'm not doing the interfaces

now i'm doing the very very very first

page of the whole machine

and i thought that maybe

to make this page a little bit more uh

useful

i think it could be a good place to list

all the subsystems and then we go

so i'm going to show you what i mean

i'm i'm not going to drive

draw more arrows here

um

it's basically just a list

and then we're going to make a

new map for the drive system

so i take this away

and then we have here on item one we

have crank

or why actually no then we have to put

two things

at the same place let's not do that

wow

let's let's just say

hmm

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okay maybe i should keep on going here

and i just have to let everything expand

so then it's the question is

i never did something like this i don't

i don't know how to plan for like future

um and in new york continues there yes

that's exactly the reason why it's the

first page keep it simple and then add

to it yeah

um

but this first page is telling us a

little bit too little

um

and i will be a bad host right now and

derail you slightly i just want to give

a little tease here we should do a

design review pretty soon but i just i

saw a new image from ralph appearing in

dropbox

i always get excited when ralph does

something new oh that's fantastic that's

cool bro that's actually pretty close

too to what i have in mind that's so

badass although i don't think i will

make it circular i think it will make it

fantastic ralph to see your your you're

back at it we will soon do a stream to

go through all the submissions that's

come yeah into the dropbox it's fun it's

fun to see a picture like that from time

to time you're welcome to derail us

i have to gather my thoughts around uh

if i should continue on this page or if

um

um

probably there will never be

the whole idea here well of course there

will be interfaces between them

um

so first of all let's talk about the

numbering so if the drive system is the

most

fundamental

um i think actually

what's your instruments

what is most fundamental hana's

instruments or the drive system

or the music control system

well it's got to be the drive system

right

since it is a marble machine

it's a marble machine that plays music

so the machine part first

drive system

and then

instruments and then instruments and

it's going to rename

instruments

one

oh sorry

so the two was correct already

and what did i just remove marble

thank you

so that's that should be here actually

uh

marble cycle

and then we do

music controls

music control

frame

this is good

oh we have grid lines and everything

i love it

there we have cognomarco also you can

add remove replace instruments you

cannot if you don't have a drive system

so

yes drive system first awesome

so

now i'm i just have to think

um

though

what do i want to achieve right now i

want to achieve greatness

i want to achieve the sub

components which means that i'm going to

keep on building here

um

because i also saw that you can expand

so

oh we should fix the air humidifier it's

warm in here now

is it not is it is the water out yeah

okay i can't fix it you know

i'm mr multitask

i will do it for you your brain needs

some

humidity

i think so

i think well so oh yeah so we talked

about making one diagram per tree level

yeah so that was actually the plan we

had okay so now i'm back to we already

decided on this

this page is done

um

this page is done

and then we can actually okay so now i

know what i'm doing

we can go to our uh let me

see what i did there

i'm just going to do this

and i'm going to open here the product

breakdown system

so

i'm just going to translate

what we just done into here

um these were your sketches

so i'm gonna resolve these comments

great comments

first draw for interaction unfinished

yet

oh jean has created something

um

cool

programming group motorcycling loop

group rhythmic group actor actor

audio equipment yeah so this is

this is super good example jean because

you will see that this will explode um

this map will explode so fast because

the machine is so huge

um so it's a super good visualization

why we're

like only gonna keep the pages like this

and then make a separate page for each

group

i hope this will be um this will work

good

so

let's remove this

thank you

so we have

oh ralph winkelmeier

thanks a lot modeling with the existing

mmx cad files as a base is a pleasure

and makes real fun

ralph this is my dream to share the cad

and people hacking hacking with it i

love it and it's going to be so fun i'm

going to share the whole cats throughout

the whole project so it's going to be

more and more fun when we have some like

real cat but you're already playing

around with it makes me so happy and

it's it's very inspiring for me to see

so

thanks for thanks for um

collaborating on this and con

contributing

um it also makes me feel that i'm not so

crazy or anyway there are other people

as crazy as i am

out there

all of us take it as a compliment

uh instruments

marble cycle you know what

this is so cool because

the first machine was divided on

physical

um

physical place the pbs on

on mmx this is much better

music control

and this will also be the way we are

going to structure the design

requirements

let's see cogno marco is wilson all

right with humidity and that's uh look

he looks happy enough he's not fine with

humility though

definitely not there that's not his

strong sign he pulled the poster down

tonight yeah enraged look that crashes

this dude all the time in a fit of rage

yeah

and as soon as the camera's pointing at

him he's just smiling

so

okay that took me some time but we have

something very foundational

um

but we can't have this the yellow is in

on so there we go oh wait

wait

um there we go

so this is i think a fantastic

foundation we have laid down

um

so let's start to fleshing out

o1 drive system

i should probably keep all this smaller

i found this

really nice from robert james

wanted to share that why what you've

been doing the last few weeks is called

diverging

now you will start the process of

converging exploring wide before

funneling down

that is so interesting so i think what

you mean robert thank you for for that

is like

we've been in

like uh

everything is possible kind of diverging

out looking at everything and now we

take it

you already said it but i'm just i'm

repeating it so now we're trying to

narrow down

and converging what can you can you look

at what converging means

isn't that when you're collecting

everything

this is something with narrow down but

let's let's get let's get some wikipedia

in there

i'm gonna prepare for some more space

here let's see if this works

in mathematics

it's approximate in the sum of its terms

towards a definite limit

come together ah come together meet

converging paths

this is a sedone

i fiddled around with the program online

and apparently you can create second

pages and link them so you can create

basically endless sub pages gives you

the luxury luxury to just plan

great

ah so you can link

them so

because why what i'm stuck here is that

are we gonna make like 100 boxes down

here like this and draw arrows from the

drive system to all these

that's that's

that's what i like to do but it's going

to be

it's going to be right we're going to

run out of space fast bernard but downed

bad beyond

trying to drag the list into the

container that you deleted then you can

open and collapse the container

yeah

that was a container idea i want to try

to stay

i want to try either

either we should do this

or we're going to try to make a second

page and somehow

okay

to convert just to approach a common

point

ah cool

uh like everyone was converging around

the idea yeah that democracy it's kind

of that machine is a good idea

um

so why i'm fretting about this is that

we're going to have

um

i should i should just start making and

and

stop thinking

um

drive system

what does it start with it starts with

crank

so

0 1

0 1

crank

okay and pablo edwardo just gives a tip

here that you can make a new page

example one that just shows

uh zero one drive system and it's sub

components if you want to keep it clean

yeah this i think it's i think that's

actually better

um

and also sit down again here at the

bottom like in excel there is the page

header

press on the plus and create a new one

then right click on the box press link

and select the page

who else in the world has better

tutorials than i have like this is

exactly what i tried to figure out so i

made a second page

um at the bottom press on the plus

create a new one then right click on the

box

press link

edit link

yeah page

two page two

apply

uh

what yes what okay so i'm going to

rename these pages

um

oh yes this is the drivetrain the drive

system

this is the this is the module 3

overview yeah this is the first page

zero zero

marble actually

let's just call it zero zero because we

know what zero zero is

and this one i'm gonna rename

zero one

rename

02

03 this is a dream everyone thanks for

and i know sometimes i'm silly because i

just have a new procrastination tool and

i say this is gonna

make the machine work

but i think

this stream today is maybe the stream

where

most foundations have been laid so far

this is how i feel right now and then

maybe tomorrow i'm just gonna scrap

everything but right now it doesn't feel

like that you can't scrap everything

because we have a mvp at least woohoo

vibraphone 37 notes

oh yeah

so i'm linking this

edit link to zero two

um

attachments and stuff i'm linking this

to zero three

i'm linking this

to zero four

i'm linking this

to zero five

um so now when we know that we're not

gonna do anything else in here

and we can actually like allow this to

take we can give it some more space like

this

amy soyuka

can you add a tab to the excel sheet for

things martin might benefit from

learning

i have been posting on the discord

but some of it would be helpful to you

it's a good idea we

we um

um

there's a risk with a page like that

that a lot of people spend a lot of time

and writing and i that i don't don't

have time to check it

so

what i suggest actually it's better that

you add the comment

uh on on the

on the most uh suitable

place

or we can make

maybe we can make like um

here

but you have the sketch notepad also

right yeah so i think um in this page

how to make longer written contribution

how to make

so

every time that i offer an

a to open interface a lot of you are

doing spending a lot of time

and it's often risking

that i don't see it and i can't follow

up which can lead to a lot of

disappointment

so i'm

i'm a little bit hesitant in doing it

for that reason

um so

my my

what i would prefer

is that if you have a suggestion

regarding project

planning then you go to the project

chapter page and you make that comment

in there

or if you have a suggestion regarding

how to write design requirements you

make the comment in there

it's it's better that we keep it a

little topical and if you feel like

um

you don't have a place

just slap it on the front page yeah

there we go yeah

and and and and i'll see if i can follow

it up um

and larissa amirov bye everyone i'm

going to go to my ballet class happy to

see martin hannah's active again good

job good luck on your ballet class uh

did you know martin that i actually have

taken some ballet lessons i have seen in

the images and it looked like you were

you nailed it first try i really didn't

uh oh my god was that a workout i'm so

impressed with ballet dancers i mean the

strength you need for that

and the coordination whoa

and what about this we have our first

subpage zero one drivetrain

so

here i think i will

hopefully then have the space for all

the sub components here

so you're getting slap on your wrists

here

from chat in you yasha and a couple more

says martin keep page titles consistent

with the block names this will be better

if you add more components later you

will get lost quickly if there are only

numbers

hashtag team consistent naming hashtag

teams consistently mean you win

no protest marble machine

um

rename

uh drive

train no drive system we call it right

o2

so i don't even know the names yet oh

two instruments

i like when i get slapped on the wrist

by shot yeah

rename

marble cycle

music control

imagine if we

if we make a machine that works and we

go on tour and we can point back to

these kind of moments like it was the

preparation and the planning that made

it work and it was the consistent naming

of the different blocks that finally

made a working machine

it's a mindset we we shouldn't like

cheat anywhere in the preparation

that's that that's the nice

um

and i think i

drive system i think i made a wrong

headline here probably chat is already

pointed at out

drive system um

and here i am going to make the next

level under

and um

call mal

don't forget to say oh is it not auto

save

i don't know all changes saved i see it

up there right okay good thank you

um

drive system so here are the high level

here are the high level stuff

so we have uh crankshaft we have zero

one zero two

we have um

what do we have

so now it's a little

a little crazy because the

so we have the crankshaft

we have

no pedal is

pedal is under let me do this then

um zero one

zero one

zero one that sounds stupid but it's

true

crank and then we have

no no no no zero two pedal

and on it goes this makes my mind happy

yeah i see this it's it's better now

before

before we have so many many stuff

but um

so much things

we will see

can i make them oh yes i can make this

there we go

and satish kumar flywheel break

is that in the drive system

yes um

i'm thinking about in what order though

uh flywheel should be already up here i

think

flywheel

so let's put a two on that

[Music]

and i just need to click on this comment

from siebertfields.madison

i'm really impressed how professional

you become with the whole streaming

thing great job by h3k handling the

comments

you know how to get picked right

say something nice about me you will get

up on the screen

not a

guarantee thank you so much you're such

a fundamental part of this whole and

diverse or three cases you deserve you

deserve the praise

um

i tried one evening streaming without

you never again

[Laughter]

um flywheel

um

so

i'm thinking this is maybe crazy

i'm thinking of making the gear

maybe gear

train is this one

is here

maybe this is wrong

um

so here's here's when it becomes so

crankshaft has a gear

flywheel

and the

interfaces with each other dead fish

cheese spread drive wheel connected to

the flywheel flywheel connected to the

belt

yeah so

why we are all confused right now is

because now i'm making uh like a product

breakdown system system

i'm not actually making

um

the physical connections

boxes first link afterwards

reminding you

i'm just thinking high level how to

build this for future combat combability

com

compatibility compatibility

compatibility

let's see here

what big drive system modules are there

actually

um

maybe this maybe this category is

wrong um

maybe i'm stuck in the old way of

thinking maybe this

so the last commenter wanted the arrows

to be how

how it's connected and maybe that's

better

let's let's try a new thing

this is completely different from from

what i did on the machine before i'm

just gonna try it

so

now i'm going to put this

how they are

connected in real life

so

we start

i think this is actually only a headline

let's try let's try like this crank

where does the power from the crank go

to

the crankshaft

yeah so i'm gonna skip the numbers now

to just see if this makes sense yeah

crankshaft and for example we have

and what is the grade here because pedal

to the metal

is also going into the crankshaft aha

this is nice this makes more sense i

think

and

[Music]

on the crankshaft

we have for example

um

oh what did i do

we have for example

um

a

flywheel pulley

and we also have

we have the

gear one

pull uh gear we have the gear one

[Music]

and it's kind of cool because crank

gives input to the shaft

and the shaft gives input to the gear

and then um

[Music]

the flywheel pulley let's say it's a

belt

this is i think what the commenter

wanted and right now it feels sweet

belt

but now i abandoned my id that it's not

the physical connection because now it's

actually

kind of both the functional and physical

connection

um

let's name this something fly wheel belt

um

[Music]

let's be generous with our naming so we

know what is what flywheel belt

this belt goes to

flywheel fully

yeah

cogno marco i think this is better each

arrow can be easily seen as an interface

you'll have to work on

brilliant

and you know what we can do then

check this out we can label the arrows

so we can do

int

and then we can do the the the little

um

um

we can do a little code here

so let's do that very small like we

so this comment is referring to what we

discussed earlier in the stream to talk

about modules and interfaces

and basically everything in a box is a

module and all the arrow is an interface

which is a super cool new way of looking

at the whole machine

and what i want to do is that i actually

want number on everything so if this is

the code for the crank

um

let's take the pedal

then this interface right here gets its

own uh label

so

what we do then is that we call it

int let's do this now

we should

no we should not have letters and

numbers let's do what i did before

how do you

oh okay i

i one

um

one o2

so then we have like a unique code for

this interface okay it sounds like so

over the top but i swear to you

that if

if we do this consistently

this machine is so complicated someone

said it was

more difficult than a than a rocket i

don't maybe agree but

um

so then we can get this nice like

a number for this interface

because this arrow means something

um

so flywheel pulley

and then actually from the flywheel

pulley we

are going

to the flywheel itself

what happened with my font

12.

oh why is this not connected

now yes there we go

is this awesome not connected

you're tangent with you

apply constraints

parametrics everyone

spot answer 3k

you've been following along

yeah i'm picking one

some things up along the way you know

my arrows are ugly

oh this is gonna be eternal uh

procrastination on moving these around

um

what else do we have

um

we have

um

so is the brakes and stuff

going in here

i guess so

so maybe maybe just like this

o x 3 f 2 d

h 3 k that's exactly what i've done

indoors example but not for a drive

system for now

so this person is inside that document

and doing stuff as well

i don't know if you still have that

document martin

yeah but the last time i clicked on it

it's here i'm

i forgot my

yeah okay you couldn't open it up no

so but it sounds like people think this

is the way to go

and it's cool because this is actually

the way it's going to look in cad as

well

um so i think we have a break that goes

to the flywheel

oh wait

we have a decoupler in between here

um

an excellent question here did martin

hydrate

mom 3k

[Music]

that's my new nickname right now

good another good idea from chat

um

let's see crankshaft we have gear one

going

going to

so let's let's let's investigate the

gear a little bit here

gear one oh here we go some fusion humor

right here i i'm thinking

sit on i don't see the problem no lines

are blue all blacks so all fully defined

okay and doro once again you need to

open it in edit mode to see the sub

pages

on his document there

i don't know how to do that

let's keep on working yeah

and pablo edwardo i'm guessing this

isn't interfaces but just a block

diagram of all components

if interfaces the flywheel should just

be an quote-unquote energy storage

system with inputs outputs not

belt etc

the interfaces are the arrows

we thought

um and

the components as you call them we call

them now modules or components it's the

same assemblies it's the same it's not

really the same one but kind of

it's the things in the boxes

and then

[Music]

so actually but you're right the

flywheel actually has both an input and

an output oh it gets complicated in my

hand

because because here the the true the

the true system is that the flywheel

gets energy here

from the crankshaft but it sends the

energy straight back

as well sometimes

so this is like

look it's coming back here

it's going back in again on this

oh wow

so

it's a loop here

oh it's getting complicated

i'm just imagining the loop drum later

on

um andorra once again yes by clicking on

the drawing i o message at the top

then we just come to the login screen

right

i'm gonna try to authorize this done

[Music]

now i'm i need to kind of connect i

don't really know what i'm doing there

so i'm gonna i'm going to keep on

working

on my own one but we would love if you

could send anything to dropbox or or or

just link it in there

in the um

in the document yeah

um

and i appreciate it but don't don't

spend too much work on like um

something that is exactly what i'm doing

as well

just just enough so i

and show me like the ideas and then i

can implement them right here

[Music]

so i guess i guess it's a cool i what

what the input output thing because a

flywheel so this is where it's actually

kind of cool

so this arrow down here to the left

should have kind of one name

and this arrow should have kind of

another name because they are providing

different functions

this arrow is charging the flywheel

and

this oh a double-sided arrow yeah rogue

unit zero zero one

and also nikita leovov use two arrows

online that's also a way to

differentiate right

bidirectional arrow

i wonder if there's not a point in

having two different arrows

um so let me just try

can you connect this

that does look pretty sweet oh it's

following

okay yes we have to keep this

graphically

manageable

is this the arrow you wanted

it's like pretty big

a little bit smaller it's not arrow you

wanted it's the arrow you deserved

[Music]

because you're gonna just add another

point to the smaller ones

that would be better right

and there are any way to do it

double-sided

oh bi-directional connector

let's see

there we go

sir 3k

with a goodness yes oh that looks really

good oh

no

yes

okay

isn't this lovely

is it following oh yes it is

so this is really cool because then this

interface

instead of having two it's the same

interface but they you it's obvious that

it both gives and takes

love it

um

can we still give labels yes we can

inked

xxx

let's do eight on that one

okay it looks like we know what we're

doing yeah

um

fake it till make it what is 16 times 4

is that 64

yes why did you ask me

you knew it all along

i just wanted to double check me if i

was still alive here

no i i'm actually

um

so

these are not

these are not done yet

um

so a new thing

is that for the loop wheel

so what's cool with this attach it so

for the loop wheel i i want a new

[Music]

i want a one two

eight gear reduction

what did i say

one to sixteen i i want

um

so

let's do let's do this

gear one

xx

uh

tbd

uh teeth

oh mike perry is back

let's see what he has to say over here

good morning my voice is th is

thoroughly destroyed

after yelling at the referees for bad

officiating of the bruins game it is

good to hear that h3k's voice is in

working order

cheers hope you had a good time i don't

know the score perhaps you don't want to

tell me about it either it sounds like

it was a rough game

nice to have you back here mike and my

voice is semi-working at least

a lot better than yesterday but you can

hear

it's not 100 yet

loop wheel

so fun i see a future in a tour when you

and mike go to on hockey together won't

that be something

my pleasure

it's kind of a bucket list when visiting

the states now yes a lot of hockey

yes hopefully the devils will have

cleaned up their act until then

[Laughter]

bruins lost six to four okay i'm sorry

mike but it was all the referee's fault

i i understand

being there

someone needs to take out both mitch

marner and austin matthews right

oh wait wait wait loop wheel

we have the timing clutch in here

well i know this is more fun than being

only an excel sheet

easily more fun

um

time to do requests from the audience

tessa is

wondering can you do the prey on noise

with your voice like this

haven't tried

but for you tessa

let's try it

it prays

on noise

i i could

starting coughing

um

that was that was beautiful harness

thank you um

the machine is done

yeah drive system what else do we have

actually because it feels like there's

100 things on the crankshaft

um crank pedal goes into the crankshaft

out of the crankshaft const is the start

of the gear train

and it's um

um

it's the and it's a flywheel is it this

simple

this is nothing then what are we

complaining about it's an easy machine

so

let's do

[Music]

let's call the flywheel o3

01.0103

flywheel

um

i kind of wanted you on the same line

can i can i have that yeah

oh what is happening here call me i'll

call mal

last three boxes are not part of zero

one but of zero three

yeah so this is a good this is good

carmille you're absolutely right but

it's also part of zero one so loop will

i think what i need to you're right loop

wheel gear

it needs to be here

the wheel gear

um so zero three is the music control

music um

no more you mean zero four i think um

music control

loop wheel gear

timing clutch programming wheel gear

gretzky in the chat right there call me

out

[Music]

and someone has noticed something else

that is missing right now

it's from simon rossian you forgot the

kinetic fingers

simon is back

as patient it was funny simon because i

saw you made like a very serious comment

that i that i enjoyed that was a good

serious comment in the excel sheet the

other day and it was so funny you like

broke you broke the fourth wall there

for a bit

um yeah

no kinetic fingers in here programming

wheel gear time and clutch

and so this is this is very new in my

head compared to the

machine before because on margin x

programming wheel gear

would be attached to the programming

wheel

but it's completely two different

functions completely to different

modules and yes they're sitting together

and they're interfacing

that

reminds me of when joe rogan asked elon

musk if we would communicate to each

other in the future when we have the

chip in our brain and elon was just like

we will interface

programming wheel gear

is there nothing else and i'm also

thinking

the brake

i think the brake should actually look

at this look at this

i think the brick should actually um

not only go

at the flywheel

but also can i not make an arrow

but also break maybe some other stuff

um

so break the gear train at the other end

as well

or break the crankshaft perhaps oh yeah

here we go that's what we did

um

we attached a brake

maybe we should use to make a brake

right there

so the brake is just clamping down

immediately on the crank oh i did that

wrong

um

why is this arrow above this is it

because i made it later

um

let's give me let's do this

so what i mean if we only break the

flywheel the machine can't stop really

fast and we have the decoupling as well

break

[Music]

let's do this

break pad

so that's another component on the

crankshaft

and then the brake is interfacing with

the brake pad

and what about the decoupling

so flywheel belt

um

because we need

we need the decoupling where do i put

the decoupling decoupling of the

flywheel

that's where where i want to lift the uh

i want to break the connection between

the flywheel and the crankshaft

[Music]

oh maybe we can do that in a pulley like

um

yes

you know

like on a motorcycle or gearbox with

lamellar

yeah

um

what is it called in an engine when you

put two discs spinning against each

other

um

it's a clutch

and maybe this time

we can have a clutch

not at the belt itself

but we can have we can we can have a

real clutch

between the crankshaft and the flywheel

pulley

because this is a problem that has been

solved

already

clutch

decoupling

clutch

this is better than what we had on mmx

so why i need to do this is that

we can't the flywheel will have so much

energy so if you want to break the

machine quick we have to decouple the

flywheel

and so the brake

that we're having here

it

not only has to break it also has to

send the signal to the decoupling clutch

there

my arrows are not super beautiful yet

trust me these arrows are going to be

magnificent

by the end of this

teeth tbd

what happens here

oh i'm so happy for the air

sir 3k

so

this is high level like my just my brain

dump on the drive system

yeah and i absolutely love um

[Music]

so wait the break

i need a lever for that

so

and chad is talking a lot about

ex for example here's from say don

you need to focus only on the surface

level stuff there is no need for a

single positive list

all of that should be covered by the

interface arrow okay

yeah i see what you mean this is this is

this is very difficult um to put it on

this on the correct and say don't also

and let's see if i can pull that up from

this chord i actually had a

little example thingy here

let's see

let's go into can you see it there yeah

okay so yeah so this is this is um

way to simplify it

i think you're right said on i think

we should go

yes because the the error i did is that

i put two different tree levels in the

same

image actually

so i think you're absolutely right and

thanks for sending the image that this

is like the best way to explain it

um

this is also really

beautiful

from ox3f2d

can you see it

so this is the

okay it's trump oh okay

yes

this is this is super cool super

succinct

um

we're all doing a little bit different

things

so this is like

because this diagram

is

this is more the whole machine

this is a flow chart more

um

so this is kind of a little bit of a

different view i feel than the one where

we're doing right now um

but let's start with let's start let's

start with the one point said on was

making here

and the reason i think you're absolutely

correct is that

so flywheel

is the same level as you can see on the

number here 010103

is on the same level as the pedal

however

um

[Music]

all these things flywheel belt flywheel

pulley

i wouldn't do them as

010104 they're actually on the next

level under

um

so

i'm going to save them here

and keep

more high level as you say

so let's do a double connector here

boom

can you show me salon's um suggestion

again give me one second my friend

there you go

okay thanks

um

yeah so

i'm gonna do this we have the break

and it's actually

what is this

and say don't also says here oh and by

the way yes you can link arrows to pages

oh cool so we can actually link here

interface nice

so we can link to an interface yeah

brill that's totally brilliant that is

brilliant

but this break i think is going to be

connected

both to the

shaft this arrow is going the wrong way

and to the flywheel

and then we are going to have um

gear one

yes they don't also have more gears

right can i just sneak peek

what would say don't do what would say

don't do

um yeah gears timing clutch more gears

loop wheel

okay cool

so loop wheel

this is also a great idea from amy

soyoka

you can validate your ideas by comparing

with other people and the similarities

are what should confirm slash reinforce

your assumptions slash views yeah

brilliant i always love when i see two

viewers independently from each other

two contributors is a nicer name

actually two contributors uh

independently from each other coming up

with the same

idea

that always tells me they're onto

something yeah

um

so now to the right here we have to

clean this up um

o4 is break

wait wait wait i know i know i know o5

is gear train

we're not going to

oh but

yeah so we're all trying to make kind of

a little bit different things

because

how is

what is the gear

let me try

so there's no absolute right or wrong

it's just what what's going to be most

helpful

so um

o5

gear train

so i think i'm going to stay more high

level here

so um

we're only going to do this

we're only gonna do

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so o six

no maybe this maybe no loop wheels and

stuff here just like this maybe

this is maybe it jimmy crosby is

wondering what is 101

101

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where do you mean

where is it is it the crankshaft that is

oh of course yes no

oh i'm used one too much i thought i i

had big numbers first you're right you

may crossfit

gretzky in the chat

boom

thank you it's looks so much nicer

oh nice nice nice i'm hanging out for a

quick one more thing be right back yeah

um

i thought we went up to so many numbers

fast

um

and i think the crankshaft i'm gonna

change all the numbering here i think

crankshaft is three

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flywheel is four

brake is five

gear train is

six

it's kind of cool to have a gear train

as a completely separate one

and there we go

here we go um

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like super simplified i'm going to

remove all these and we're going to

revisit them when we go into the gear

train

how did i do on the first one

yes i'm gonna make a recta i'm gonna

make this rectangular instead can i just

change it no i can't

i think for headlines

i should not have a box at all

um

i'm gonna do this uh

rhombus or what it's called

zero one

drive train drive system

drive system

so this is just the headline of the

document it's not a module

so and i'm keeping it consistent with

this

rhombus kind of

thing so then you can see we have

i think that's good actually

crankshaft

brake

i want this arrow to be straight

um

let's remove that for now the interface

thing

um

so of course

it is a shame that we can't like

keep on going

we could make like

once so maybe we

we could try later one one of you could

like when this is set in stone we could

make like a crazy map with just a

machine in the middle and then just

crazy our way out

um

with the whole machine

as a fun thing that it's also a

beautiful poster actually um

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but right now when i'm learning the

program i'm not going to try to do that

because it's going to be such a big mess

i think it's much better to do

one page per

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per tree

what we maybe could do though

so we set one page per

we're gonna have so many pages

does this make sense

um

i was thinking to add like

the instruments here below

i'm gonna try to do it i can copy it

over

let's try to do this

so i'm

keeping on down here and i'm just i'm

doing o2 here

um

instruments

so and in what order do i want to list

them

let me go to the pbs

we started

here

well kick drum snare drum hi-hat bass

vibraphone i think that's how we should

list them

o2

o1

so this is high level stuff kick drum

there's kind of no connections here

that's a little strange maybe

snare drum

i had o203

let's copy that and we're going to make

0204

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base

and

the mvp

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is of course

o205 vibrophone

if the vibraphone is the mvp

maybe i should put it first but in music

production like kick drum is always

channel one so it's just like

kick drum is always first like

in all input lists and everything when

you're touring you always put the kick

drum first so it just feels so awkward

do not have it first i'm gonna

i'm gonna just do that

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let's do

the marble cycle high level here as well

another idea that i just had

if this is the high level thing

that we could actually paste all this on

the front page

but there because there's no arrows

between these at all

it's going to be inside them it's going

to be a lot of arrows

so 03

marble cycle here we will have some

arrows though

so where do we start the marble cycle it

all starts with

let's start it with the marble lift

marble lift

we should be able to make a nice loop

here

so

maybe we can even put it in the bottom

so we have it like a visual with gravity

as well

0301

marble lift

and that goes to

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o3

o2

i think marble divider

the divider could be before the liftoff

eventually i don't know

um

let's try this

boom

boom

i'm gonna drag an arrow instead

this is nice

and then we have

and chat is going to be re read very

soon when cert 3k has returned

um right now i'm just fleshing out a

marble cycle

marble divider we have

i wonder if the marble

queues

now that's gonna be like

marble

reservoir

marble q what should we call this

marble

queue

he is back everyone

it's always so airy silent when you're

gone

marvel reservoir

we go on to

marble gates

d

o three

o four

and then

we go to

marble drop

perhaps

yeah you have to catch up now yeah yeah

i need to see what's happening

consonator one is wondering are you

still definitely having a divider

um

i think we're having the function of a

divider somewhere so

for example if we pick every marble to

its same track with with a closed loop i

don't think we will be able to do that

because i've done the high demands of

the marbles catching

um

so

i think

the function of a marble divider will be

somewhere on the machine um

and even if we catch them like with

unique loops per tracks that's also sort

of a marble divider so yeah

yes

but i'm very open-minded about how it

would

look and where it would be placed

it could also be before the marble lift

but then we need like a lot of channels

on the marble lift

but gonza nature i've been as i said in

the previous stream i've been thinking

about your

no part divider with just a broadening

channel

i think that's kind of very interesting

idea for this machine

said on hannes save him he is putting

all on one page

you're in there you're doing everything

in zero one drive system right now it

looks like yeah it's it's it's it's it's

um by it's intentional

okay

because i think this is how high level

so i'm i'm even thinking of putting

everything on this page

because there's no use on on like

clicking around

because we're this is just a big big big

map

um

if it's so little we can even actually

because i'm a higher level now and if

not i think i can i'm a higher level oh

i'm i'm gonna

yeah i'm in more high level the map is

not so granular it's not so zoomed in

um

i just yeah it isn't yeah if we have 100

million tabs

you can't derive knowledge from looking

at it quickly

so since we're so high level i think

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i'm planning on actually

i think i can make everything until the

second level in one diagram

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i think i should keep on building on

this because

um it was just in the beginning when i

thought that we would list so many

functions

so

um

if we have thousand tabs

we will have no oversight at all

and

that's why i'm thinking like this right

now

then we have

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um

ah what is that

marble catch

question is if instrument hit should be

in between here

it's pretty important part of the

machine

but it's it's not a

it's a function

okay

you got confirmation here from sedon

that is respectable okay

it feels and like

it feels like we're a little bit on the

same frequency right now sit on because

i'm doing i think it was your suggestion

to go more high level

and i think it would be super beautiful

if we can put everything that is on

screen now

together with what is on screen here

then i think we've done an amazing like

first overview page and then from there

on the third level we're gonna

dive into the um

dive deep dive really deep there

um

so chat what should i do with the

instrument a hit point

should that be mentioned in the marble

cycle it's only a function so

is it part of the interface here in the

arrow or is it actually a thing that

should be in the marble cycle

but it's also going to be

so it's also part of the instruments of

course

but of course it is the function i'm

gonna put it here

um hit point

it feels a little bit awkward but it's

probably it should probably be here

marble

hit point

a nice little loop right

oh

so do you have a good better name for

this hannes marble reservoir it's like

the pipes with the q for the marble

gates

um

yeah it should be the reservoir it's

okay

um

yes it should be part of the marble

cycle okay jepson nice cc blue warlord

yes it is a vital function of the world

cycle it makes the music

cool

so

um

let's let's leave it in there let's move

on to the

to the fourth

so what's cool with this program i just

realized if i drag outside my working

area i get more space

um add add02 instruments block have you

missed that

it's up here oh there you have it i

think maybe you miss it i think that's

what you mean

um

cc blue warlord marble reservoir could

be marble buffer yeah that is a better

word thank you

because the re it because i don't want

to have a reservoir like uh in another

place of the machine

and so marble buffer is much better

okay oh four everyone

we are thundering like schlepner cross

music control

um

okay everyone help me what do we have

here music control

um

we can take a sneak peek it's it's kind

of the programming wheel i guess

i guess it starts with the programming

wheel

so here we can make the flow chart that

you showed with the ink pen drawing

i think

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0401

programming wheel

and then

and now we can do really flowy here um

i'm going to try to do just

down like this

this is so fun

this is a blast right

it gives me a feeling of control yeah

and progress

so

what comes on us can you guess

what comes here loop drum no what is

programming wheel interfacing with

registrators

round of applause for sir 3k

registrators

so do not go too high level

i still think that a muting

should be mentioned here

um

muting and program switch

or is that

yes

it's such a big thing

so

let's just call it program switch

because mute is one of the programs yes

there we go okay program switch

um

so it's like i can't make a flow chart

out of the instrument section

but i can make a flow chart out of both

the marble cycle and the music control

so program switch what do we have done

um

we have

i think the marble gates

roll of films instrument levers

gates

or is that also in the program switch

category

so instrument levers

is in music control definitely

um

but i think

it's going to be sub

of 0403 yup so the instrument levers is

going to be a sub component of the

program switch module

um

no wait it is a really big thing

um

so

oh this is gonna be beautiful look we

just put

we just put it here

um

program levers

oh wow slice of sparta you're gonna make

me blush here

h3k more than a pretty face

i'm learning stuff also

yeah

yesterday we showed the

sir three case

feet up bench press personal best with

155 kilo from last week

more than just a pretty face

i'm doubting

if the program levers because we are we

are

now

i think the program levers is on the

next

level

for example here we only have like

marble drop we don't have like

um wait why do i have marble drop marble

gates and drop

it's the same thing

marble gates and drop

i'm gonna re

redo this

so

i think it's the same thing

so i think

the program levers is going to be inside

the program switch module

so programming wheel touches the

registrators

go through the program switch

open and closes the marble gates

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freddie can touch the program switch

module would also be a sub component of

the registrators

i think it belongs more to the program

switch because the registrators will

always be registrating it's it's i think

you you mean the same i think freddie um

it's just that i

i took the program switch as a separate

module and that's actually where the

levers are um

oh no sorry i read you wrong the program

switch module would also be a

subconscious

component

it could

but

the way i'm thinking

because this arrow i should actually

start cad but this arrow is a thing

that's always moving

um

i think it makes sense to break it out

here

um

because the registrators

program oh

and perhaps there is something to this

from seebs293

programs which should drive the

programming wheel and the registrators

the registrators do not drive the

program switch

oh this is getting complicated no no

this is fun this is fun it's this is a

great discussion um

the registrators

the part and that i mean are the

registrators are always moving

regardless of the setting of the program

switch

um

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so

i think i i think i disagree because

what what i see is that

pro this the programming wheel

it doesn't care about uh the setting of

the program switch the registrators the

things that are interacting with the

programmer pin it also doesn't care

about the setting of the program switch

the marble the

so if we think an input output kind of

thing and processing

the registrators is always sending the

same output

but before that output

comes to the marble gates is getting

processed by the program switch so i i

think this works um

we need another tree here

which is then going to be o5

which is loop wheel

loop wheel

and this is

i think the word regis the word i think

i think it's uh semantics a lot there

but it's also important semantics

discussion loop wheel

goes to

[Music]

loop b stars

and they go to

[Music]

so music control

um

so the loop eaters play on the

instruments but probably we shouldn't

yeah they're not part of the control

no

but we also have

loop beaters we also have perhaps height

close open

and stuff like that yeah

um

let's leave it like this for now

we have only one more to go frame

and this is the most difficult one i

think

slice of sport is wondering would the

resonator pipes be considered music

control since that's where the vibrato

is

um

if it would

it would still i think um end up far

deep into this o205 vibraphone

sub component yeah

uh since we're

trying to be high level um

but i'm not sure

um

o5

frame

and this is going to be tricky one it's

so far frame

is that right yep

so

i guess it's going to be like this o501

welded

laser

cnc steel frame

and here's just going to be crazy hard

for me to guess now

it's going to be like

i'm just gonna make a um

example

maybe like

o502

[Music]

uh

vibraphone

brackets or let's do kick drum

etc etc etc

um

so kind of one big skeleton and then all

the little arms maybe i i don't really

know how to um

i'm just gonna make some examples

uh i think also maybe like bearing

housings i'm gonna go here

o5

xx

um prog wheel

prog wheel

shaft holders

so they will be welded on or

screwed on bolted on

fastened on carmel frame sub

subsystem one feet ah that's nice that's

a super nice idea

um

and also even more feed stabilization

anchor points connecting rods

um

feet where do i put feet

pull the laser

all file

let's put here

feet

am i wrong with my numbering on this no

this is true

someone just had a little tip here if i

scroll up

a mere ammo replace 0305 marble hit

point to o2 instruments

yes this is what we discussed before

yeah um

so this is where

this is where things get murky

where kind of something has to be

where in my head like i don't want to

link in and out here

um

but it's true that 0305 marble hit point

will be

like on the instrument

so maybe this should maybe this is just

an yeah how to do this

um

because the marble hit point

maybe we should make references

yeah

so perhaps that's what the person meant

right it should be connected to o2

instruments

reference

o2

instruments um

maybe this is a way to handle it

because

like the marble cycle is interacting

with the instruments and maybe then to

send a little

um make a little connection here

it's better

reference

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hit point inside

something like this

how's that

for our collective ocds i love it

so now i'm going to try

um

this is the whole machine honest

simple as that simple simple stuff right

yeah

now i'm going to try my best to copy

this onto the

the main line the main line so what what

if

we just put

i'm going to show you why i want to

product tree

product

breakdown tree

uh so this is this is what i have like

in my mind

uh here's a good one

can i get some of these big

work yeah

vbwbs

so

these are

here

this is what i have in mind

um

this is what i want to create i think

but of course here the levels are

super super clean

so there's never like

[Music]

but let's try

let's go for it

can't go anything more than fantastic

right yeah yeah

let's try doing it like this

and we'll see

i'm gonna try with the drive system

first can i now just oh i think i love

this program

copy

oh wow

sweetness oh wow sweetness

but

this is kind of a flow chart

so it's kind of

maybe i maybe i can just do this

you can create more space by just

dragging to the side remember oh nice

good

one and i can make all this smaller as

well

um

so the confusion here is if we're gonna

make like a pbs or if we're gonna make a

flow chart and now we're kind of making

both

um

so

crank drive system so for example what

do i connect

from the drive system do i connect it to

the

maybe just to the oh

oh yeah to the one should be the one

yeah it should be the o1

obviously

so let's just do this

but then

i think i should use somewhere the

vertical space more

this is this is not too bad

gear train

brake

let's remove this crazy arrow

nice

there

so this is a strange hybrid between a

flow chart and a pbs

i still i think it's still

think it's not too bad

what do you think famous last words

it's not too bad

i like having this on the same um

[Music]

same little thing let's go for the next

one

and let's go for these

they are not even connected so

we can make this super super clean

um here

and here i'm going to take some

inspiration from the

wbs

that i showed you here

okay so so they're all connected like

this

because it's not a flow chart let's see

if we can create that instead of like a

multi arrow

how do you do that

can i drag an r

no

can't i drag an arrow from here

let's zoom in

no

maybe the arrow is too small

i think i did it before

sure you should be right

i can just drag multiple maybe from the

same

wait what happens if i do that

oh here we go

okay

nice huh

now we're talking but i actually want it

i want it from the underside of the box

let's

let's drag it over there

so what are people saying

um dun

maybe you can explain for new viewers

what we're trying to do today hannah's

context

the context maker

so like

so um while i'm just

doing it you can try to

see

i don't know how i would describe it but

for any new viewers like what are we

actually trying to do here

oh that's a great question i guess we

started at trying to define

uh trying to define the modules and

interfaces and the difference between

them right breaking down it's almost

like a product breakdown system

it's a hybrid right now

and chad pointed us to this great uh

program called draw io i guess it was

name right

where you can do this great block

diagrams

block

charts

and this is a great visualization for us

and the viewers about all the

the key

modules of the marble machine i guess

on a high level

so all the subsystems are not in this

yet

but what drives what basically

uh

that's a great summary and

i love i loved it

the context um

god of context has entered into the chat

and um what i would add is that

we want to do this as a way of

structurize

structuring our design requirements

so the design requirements are going to

be written

uh on on this flow on this um block

diagram

uh or not on this but it's going to be

have this follow the same structure yeah

and a great tool

to find

as chad pointed out

for example you can use the arrow to see

what interfaces interact with what

module and stuff like that yeah later on

and this is a

reference module right here

see if i can go in a little closer

with this one oh this one

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oh

my list is

this is not good

something happened

they're on the loose

they're on the loose so this one i'm

working on right here the reference um

[Music]

we're referencing another

thing

which is kind of um

maybe it's a little crazy that we do

that or maybe not

and it's also today it's fun to learn a

new tool and

to be able to make something that looks

semi-professional

instead of sketching on the ipad yeah a

flow diagram there's something like this

that looks like okay i think they kind

of know what they're doing

kinda did you see how i created the

marble loop here marble catch goes up to

the marble lift there we go maybe the

marble lift should have been at the

bottom maybe that would have been

um

no it doesn't matter

there's no gravity in this document

and i'm gonna make this like this

and

girgus008 has an accidental arrow

creation counter going right now we're

up to eight

yeah one click

there's a ball

[Laughter]

that's fun

um i'm gonna try to

arrow it down oh

two only oh

zero

um

look at this let's take a look on the

wow look at this wow

wow

music control

let's control the music

oh wait i know exactly how to do this

one

it's just like this

and then

now wait

um

and there we have a little delay for the

viewers there but we have the counter is

now at nine

[Laughter]

that's funny

uh itamar priel marble cat should be

0305 question mark

yeah

oh good point because i made a reference

thank you so much itamar

legend

legend right there legend

um

so i'm just wondering

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okay so here i think we're gonna do what

we did on the instruments

i'm gonna drag uh

two arrows

for the price of one yes

no

and it's ugly

there we go

so this is where we're lost in the

middle between a flow chart and a pbs uh

diagram it's like a visual pbs almost

yes

um

but maybe i should make like i did on o2

here

so it's it's strange because

um

these arrows doesn't mean the same as

these arrows

so that's what's turning me off a little

bit here

so maybe i should just do this actually

um

now we need that interface yeah we need

that interface i should have other

arrows for

is there another

connector with two labels connected with

three connector with symbol can change

color of the arrows one check this out

link

so if i if we reserve the arrows for the

interfaces

and link

no that's those

dotted line

dashed line

here we go

dashed line

oh nice there we go

so i want i want these arrows to mean

something special

amy soyorka if you hold down control and

click on multiple boxes boxes it selects

them all at once

hold down

maybe command because i mean

like this you mean yeah yeah command

because i'm on on mac

to make perhaps that's a great way to

make arrows concise and nice

so with this beautiful method i couldn't

make this nice

um

i couldn't make this trick

what if we

[Music]

kind have just a line

it doesn't matter

list item

i'm just gonna try or maybe this

why is there a letter

ship it

sit down if you click on your existing

arrows you have the side menu where you

can adjust where you can just change the

line type

oh

let's see

okay let's try this a side menu

set on is on

perhaps on the point here again

so

none yeah

okay you have a menu yes behind we can't

see it okay

and now i can maybe make this dotted

oh yes

here we go this is what i want

this is so much fun

this is exactly what i wanted thank you

sadon

doing

god's work here today

oh and now it it takes that

automatically

so you know what these arrows are also

going to be

[Music]

so i want as i said i want the arrows

to have a meaning the arrows are

interfaces

they tell a story right the tell

beautiful stories

and then

i want to make the same here

and then i want to also connect

this one no

that went wrong

oh

wrong

what about that it's a thing of true

beaut

let's do the frame let's do the frame

let's say let's finish this yes

um

we have this

so

the frame is probably thing that i have

welded frame i'm gonna shorten the name

here

frame is probably the thing that i have

the

least

good thing going

[Music]

let's connect that

like this

because these are just examples

um

but this is an interface

so if i

connect this

i can go into the line menu and

oh the feet

other way around perhaps

okay this is a little bit of an the

black sheep

for now

that's a bad one but that's okay

okay

nice

um

it doesn't look too bad

right

no

beautiful

and then like we we're going to go

crazy deep when we come to the third uh

level so

martin will probably do some ocd repairs

of streams slice of sparta that could

very well happen yeah so

i totally understand if someone wants um

to line up

things to be lining up better

um

that that could totally be it but what's

fun now

is that now i'm very happy with this and

now we can translate this

into

our pbs

that we have here

so

great

um

symbol from callum harvey

symbol

good column um

that's uh that's something that i forgot

completely

let's add it

i think we're running a little short of

time ah are we running short of time

perhaps today this is a wednesday also

yes

screw the main channel we have a summary

to think about also through that oh and

also screw that it's break time soon in

that case

screw the main channel no this is

this is where the part is at yeah that's

true this is the real party

now i'm gonna finish this

and then we're gonna um

then we're gonna end the stream when i

finish it but uh sir 3k if you want to

take a break you are be my guest yeah

um

so i'm gonna take this to the logical

conclusion

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which is basically

of course it's not going to be

interesting to watch actually so maybe

maybe you have a point there but symbol

has been let's just see if there's any

else

uh audio equipment i'm gonna check this

many notes

uh levers

from kev and none

[Music]

um so what's what

i can actually just

let's just see diagram with module

subsystems

energy inputs

and the next

sedone

main channel is temporary live streams

are forever

definitely um

sub systems marvel collection storage

lift feed divide up to some more

subsystems

um

[Music]

also this is a big um work here from

this user whose name i can't read out

because it's in another language

[Music]

so

the whole endpoint here is that now we

can feed these titles

into this document and i can really do

that off stream so you're right about

that sir 3k

we deserve a break now also yeah and the

viewers

um

deserves an applause so thanks for like

getting me to this point today we have a

beautiful overview that we didn't have

before and i also feel um

that

uh

i'm so much more in control than

yesterday so thanks for all your

wonderful contributions we will keep on

tracking on the livestream channel but

there will be some kind of very very

very easy update on the main channel

today because we have to apparently

because people are apparently not uh on

the livestream channel

but i don't understand why because this

is where it's on

this is where it's at and i want to say

thank you to all the wonderful viewers

out there all the generous people who

are sending super chats and supporting

us with super chats and merchandise you

guys are

the greatest and also a big huge thanks

to the beautiful moderators always with

us here on the streams you're doing

amazing work we

love you guys

so take care and perhaps we'll see you

on the main channel later then

take it home martin

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