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<Breaking Bad Habits>
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(Questioner) I'm very glad
to see you again.
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Thank you for all the help you've provided
for me and a lot of people.
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Definitely, your wisdom is very much
appreciated and accepted.
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I'm doing pretty good lately
and, at times, I feel a lot of equanimity.
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While there is a lot of peace of mind, there's
always a nagging voice in the background.
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I'm afraid to go back to my old habits.
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Even though I've improved a lot,
I do revert back to my old habits at times,
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and feel frustrated in those moments.
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Practice has been incredible
in easing my mental afflictions,
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especially as doing many reflections has
allowed me to experience equanimity.
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I have been able to enjoy
the peace for a few weeks.
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Still, there's always a nervousness
that I'm going to fall back
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to the old habitual patterns,
and I worry about how easy it is
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to go back to the old patterns.
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Why is it so difficult to break
these habits?
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(Sunim) Has your relationship
with your daughter improved and
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were you able to let go of the issues
that were hanging over that relationship?
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(Questioner) Yes.
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(Sunim) That's great.
Let me ask you a question.
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Which one is more likely to succeed,
trying something for the first time,
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or trying what you have succeeded
previously and going at it again?
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(Questioner) Sometimes it's more difficult
to go back and repeat all these patterns.
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Sometimes it's a little easier, but let's
call it easier to go through new things.
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Still there's some difficulty in that too,
but it gives a better outcome.
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(Sunim) You've experienced
some tough times in your life.
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Nevertheless, you have applied
yourself to practice
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and came to a place
where you have a peace of mind.
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You mentioned that you're still
worried about reverting back.
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Even if you do go back to your old habits,
would it be as severe as it once had been
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or would be a little better than
what it used to be?
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(Questioner) I'll be definitely
better knowing what I now know.
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Through everything I did to overcome
my mental attachments,
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I'm much better off in many ways.
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I am so glad that
I went through the work,
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because I definitely think
I am in a better place.
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(Sunim) Let's say,
you started off at minus 10,
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then you worked yourself
all the way up to plus 10.
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Even if you relapse, as you are concerned,
you won't relapse all the way to minus 10,
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you'll relapse maybe to minus 5,
but your starting point is now at minus 5.
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Getting to plus 10 or 15 from that point
will be much easier than the first time.
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So, what I'm trying to say is
that even if you relapse,
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the intensity is not as bad as before,
and you have already built up
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the capacity to bring
yourself back up.
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So there's no reason
for you to be concerned.
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You need to practice being awake
as much as possible in order to not relapse,
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but you do not need to worry about
falling all the way back to the beginning.
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It will be much easier to get back up
as you now have the capacity.
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So, I'm saying that
you should not be scared.
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First, you won't relapse.
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Second, even if you do, it's going to be
easier for you to come back.
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You'll do well,
there's no need for worries.
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Ultimately what I'm trying to say is that
there's nothing there for you to be afraid of.
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(Questioner) Thank you.
You're right and I really get your point.
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I cannot say it's greed,
but definitely understand now
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that even when I relapse to
some kind of a mental affliction
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or attachment to these habitual patterns,
their intensity is much less by far.
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I definitely agree with you that from
a minus position, possibly I work up to 10.
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I agree, you are right.
I have already experienced that.
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It's good that you mentioned
because I do fall but I don't feel
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that I fall that deep anymore.
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It's good to know,
thank you very much.
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(Sunim) The fear comes because you are
attached to the current state of positivity.
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You should just observe that you are
in a good state and you are maintaining
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equanimity and peace of mind
instead of being attached to that state.
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Our mind is always dynamic,
it's constantly moving.
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Just because you are in a good state now,
you can't try to grab onto it.
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All you can do is just observe it
as it fluctuates and moves in dynamic ways
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The fear comes from your attachment
and desire to hold on to that good state.
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First, you need to avoid attaching yourself to
or obsessing over the current state.
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Second, it is for you to realize
that even if you go back,
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it's not something
for you to be afraid of.