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Good afternoon. Can you hear me?
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Good afternoon. Sorry for the delay.
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Welcome to Lightning Talks!
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We have... 5 people doing 6 things,
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and first up is Sean.
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Hello!
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Uh, I'm Sean.
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Um, so,
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Dgit is a multifaceted project
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trying to solve a lot of problems at once
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and the source package certainly is
(one of those)
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I wanted to briefly talk about
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one of the things that dgit makes better, that
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is the reason why you should consider
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incorporating dgit push
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into your existing workflows.
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So, one of the things that
we offer our users
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in our stable releases
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is that we say:
Look, we are going to make sure
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that you can do
apt-get source,
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apt-get build-dep
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and then, it will be built
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Right? That's one of the things we ensure
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and it's a nasty bug if that doesn't work.
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But, apt-get source is a
pretty old-fashioned way
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to get a source for something
running on your computer.
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in particular, like you can't
commit things
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and then revert them
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you can't make branches
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you can't manipulate the source
in all the ways you can with git.
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So, often what I think people will probably do
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is apt-get source and then just
commit everything to git.
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Now, dgit clone is kind of a
shortcut there
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so dgit clone will "apt-get source" and
commit it to git, roughly.
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(there's more stuff going on)
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But that's one way to understand it.
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And that's the git history you get,
if you type dgit clone
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when the maintainer just uploaded
the package with dput.
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So, it's kind of useful, it's in git now,
so you can type git clean
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and it's pretty convenient.
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But I think we could do a lot better for
our users.
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We could give them the whole packaging
history
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and eventually even the upstream history.
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Which is a lot powerful for debugging
problems on their system.
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So, that's what you get when you do dgit
clone, when it wasn't dgit-pushed.
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What happens when it was ?
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Well, that's what you get.
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If someone like I did, typed "dgit push",
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then, when the user types "dgit clone",
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they get this rich history, which is
useful information, for debugging,
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making reverts, and upstream changes
for example, and then trying build it.
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Or, you know, that kind of stuff.
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And as you see, the dgit push command
has gbp in it.
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Like this wasn't a fancy git-debrebase
workflow or anything like that.
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All I did was drop dgit --gbp push
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into my existing team gbp workflow.
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So if you're in a team that has
gbp-based workflow,
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consider incorporating dgit push
and give this extremely useful thing
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to our users.
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Thanks !
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Right, next up is Judit,
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telling us "debian lenny
worth every penny".
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OK. The main issue about -
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I'm gonna talk about Debian Lenny -
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(which) is "will you able to fill five minutes
with it ?"
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But I'm prepared and I have a backup !
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So, who of you is still using Lenny ?
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Who of you plans to use Lenny ?
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[laughs]
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So that's great !
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So. Lenny is not completely abandonned.
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(??) What it was back in 2009 when it
was released ?
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Everyone was using it, and now
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you feel somehow lonely about it.
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And of course there are reasons for it.
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For example, it got security support
discontinued and doesn't do well.
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And of course, a lot of fancy stuff is
missing, like html5.
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This might not be an issue if you don't
like videos.
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And even if you would have support for
html5, probably you wouldn't have support
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for most of the codecs.
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Of course, you don't have these emoji thingies
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which also could upset you
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The worst issue is that...
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about... I think,
65% of the web is not usable(?) for you
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because you do not have the (??)
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And, you're missing the recent CSS
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which means the DebConf page looks like this.
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And it's supposed to look like... this.
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[laughs]
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Of course it also has upsides (half-jokingly)
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[laughs again]