224 - That All May Be One / Total Onslaught - Walter Veith
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0:56 - 1:02That All May Be One
-
1:06 - 1:09The title of this lecture is
That All May Be One, -
1:09 - 1:14and we have dealt in the last few
lectures with the political aspects, -
1:14 - 1:18and tonight I want to start
with the religious aspects. -
1:18 - 1:24The Vatican II meetings,
Vatican II, the Pope is beeing -
1:24 - 1:28carried in during that meeting,
and at that meeting it was -
1:28 - 1:34decided that the churches,
the Protestant churches, -
1:34 - 1:40may remain in their confessions and
obtain salvation, provided of course, -
1:40 - 1:47that they accept and acknowledge
the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome. -
1:47 - 1:52Now after Vatican II, it was Karl
Rahner, the Jesuit, strange how -
1:52 - 1:56they keep popping up, I know I’m
saying this frequently, but it’s -
1:56 - 2:01just a fact. He was the one who was
commissioned to take this message -
2:01 - 2:05to the world that everyone could
remain in their confession, -
2:05 - 2:10provided they acknowledge the
supremacy of the Bishop of Rome. -
2:10 - 2:12And I’ve already dealt with this,
but I’m going to go into a little -
2:12 - 2:21bit more detail now, Paul Knitter,
who was held a position at Xavier -
2:21 - 2:25University, Cincinnati, where he is
Professor of Theology, he studied -
2:25 - 2:30under Karl Rahner, and he wrote
this book, “No Other name?” -
2:30 - 2:36And in this book, “No Other Name?”
he writes certain interesting -
2:36 - 2:41things, here’s a commentary on it,
it’s interesting that they have a -
2:41 - 2:47this little humanist man over there
on the book, tells us its humanism. -
2:47 - 2:51He writes, “Faces the conundrum of
what the committed Christian -
2:51 - 2:55believer does theologically in face
of the growing evidence, scholarly -
2:55 - 2:58and from personal encounter, that
there are other ways, religious -
2:58 - 3:04ways, of leading a full, authentic
human life, than the Christian way.” -
3:04 - 3:10Are you beginning to see something?
“Can a person be saved,” -
3:10 - 3:16definition, “that is, come to live
a truly human life, by some other -
3:16 - 3:21name than that of Jesus Christ?”
Hello, let me just recap there, to -
3:21 - 3:25be saved means to live a truly
human life, is that correct -
3:25 - 3:30theology? This is a professor of
theology, and this book is -
3:30 - 3:33virtually prescribed in all
seminaries of theology in the -
3:33 - 3:38entire world. “Knitter’s answer is
one can be ‘saved’ by ‘some other -
3:38 - 3:44name,’ and then he proceeds to show
how this affirmation can be squared -
3:44 - 3:49theologically with a full Christian
commitment. This is first-rate -
3:49 - 3:53creative theology” that’s the
only sentence I agree with. -
3:53 - 4:00It is creative theology, but it’s
definitely not biblical theology. -
4:00 - 4:04Well, at the second ecumenical
council, if the Bible isn’t going -
4:04 - 4:08to be the norm, we’ll have to
replace it with something else. -
4:08 - 4:15And it was decided in document 515
– of page 515 of the ecumenical -
4:15 - 4:19documents that were written at
Vatican II documents. -
4:19 - 4:22“Unity of all Christians may at
last be restored and shine forth, -
4:22 - 4:26for all peoples are called to be a
single new people, confessing one -
4:26 - 4:30Jesus, Savior and Lord, professing
one faith, celebrating one -
4:30 - 4:34Eucharistic mystery.” There are
lots of problems with there in this -
4:34 - 4:38particular one, particularly the
Eucharistic mystery. -
4:38 - 4:40“All Christians should be of an
ecumenical mind,” -
4:40 - 4:46Documents of Vatican II. P. 515.
The Catholic Catechism will tell us -
4:46 - 4:52that Vatican II did not change
the doctrines; it only appeared to -
4:52 - 4:56change the doctrines. This is the
present Catechism of the Catholic -
4:56 - 4:59Church, article 816,
“The sole Church of Christ which -
4:59 - 5:03our Savior, after his Resurrection,
entrusted to Peter’s pastoral care, -
5:03 - 5:06commissioning him and the other
apostles to extend and rule it… -
5:06 - 5:09This Church, constituted and
organized as a society in the -
5:09 - 5:14present world, subsists in the
Catholic Church… The Second Vatican -
5:14 - 5:18Council’s Decree on Ecumenism
explains: “For it is through -
5:18 - 5:22Christ’s Catholic Church alone,
which is the universal help towards -
5:22 - 5:27salvation, that the fullness of the
means of salvation can be obtained.” -
5:27 - 5:31There’s been no change in doctrine,
only Protestants believe that there -
5:31 - 5:37has been a change of doctrine.
Wounds to unity, article 817, -
5:37 - 5:42“Where there are sins, there
are also divisions, schisms, heresies,” -
5:42 - 5:48so if there was a division, then it
was sin, so who’s the sinner? -
5:48 - 5:53The one who separated.
Towards unity, -
5:53 - 5:57“Christ bestowed unity on his
Church from the beginning” -
5:57 - 6:02and this is something the church
can never lose, 820. -
6:02 - 6:08It didn’t change. It still governs
– rules the church through its -
6:08 - 6:12Supreme Pontiffs and Bishops,
everybody will have to acknowledge -
6:12 - 6:15this. This is why
Priest J. Cornell says, -
6:15 - 6:19“The final object of ecumenism, as
Catholics conceive it, is unity in -
6:19 - 6:21Faith, worship, and the
acknowledgement of supreme -
6:21 - 6:27spiritual authority of the Bishop
of Rome.” That’s the bottom line. -
6:27 - 6:30“The Church’s bond with
non-Christian religions” – -
6:30 - 6:36“all nations form but one community.
” They want the same relations with -
6:36 - 6:40Moslems, with all the other
religions. Let’s make sure that -
6:40 - 6:43this is true, this was the
Catechism, it can’t be wrong; -
6:43 - 6:46Further Questions Answered,
Bonaventure Hinwood OFM, -
6:46 - 6:49“Vatican II teaches in several
places that the Catholic Church, -
6:49 - 6:54and it alone, is the Church
founded by Jesus Christ” no change -
6:54 - 6:59in the Vatican II documentation.
Then September 5, 2000, -
6:59 - 7:03the Vatican made this quite clear,
the church’s examined the -
7:03 - 7:06Vatican statement, 36 page
statement said other Christians -
7:06 - 7:09communities, such as
Anglicans or other Protestants, -
7:09 - 7:14“are not churches in the proper
sense.” Canon David Oliver, -
7:14 - 7:17minister of St. Thomas’s Anglican
Church, says, oh well, it’s oh, -
7:17 - 7:23it’s ok, whatever. “Other Churches
are no sisters of ours, the Vatican -
7:23 - 7:24insists” September 5, 2000
“The Independent.” -
7:24 - 7:26And remember that Ratzinger said
[Walter Veith said, Karl Rahner said] -
7:26 - 7:28“It must be always clear
that the one, holy, catholic -
7:28 - 7:31and apostolic universal church is
not the sister, but the mother of -
7:31 - 7:34all the churches.” So that’s the
latest statement, definitive -
7:34 - 7:39statement, from the highest sources
in the Vatican, Vatican II changed -
7:39 - 7:43nothing. These are some of the
comments of the other churches, -
7:43 - 7:47“church’s are stunned by Pope’s
attack, Protestant churches express -
7:47 - 7:51disappointment, etc.” Nothing
changed, they were still in the -
7:51 - 7:56ecumenical movement. The Washington
Post said, “A new Vatican dictum -
7:56 - 8:00issued today declares that
individuals can attain full -
8:00 - 8:04salvation from earthly sin only
through the spiritual grace of the -
8:04 - 8:09Catholic Church and that other
faiths – including Protestant -
8:09 - 8:13Christian ones -- have defects that
place their followers in a ‘gravely -
8:13 - 8:17deficient situation’.”
And that includes Moslems, -
8:17 - 8:22Hindu’s, Jews, everyone;
they have to accept Catholicism as -
8:22 - 8:25leader, that’s what the Vatican
teaches. Now how are you going to -
8:25 - 8:30this if the Bible so clearly
condemned Catholicism? -
8:30 - 8:34Well Vatican II and the Sunday,
again the documents, Vatican II, -
8:34 - 8:38“Any endeavor that seeks to make
Sunday a genuine ‘day of joy and -
8:38 - 8:40rest from work’ should be encouraged.”
Documents of Vatican II. -
8:40 - 8:43We must celebrate the
“Paschal Mystery” it must be the -
8:43 - 8:48“primordial feast” day.
There must be freedom from work, -
8:48 - 8:53“shall not have precedence over
Sunday,” all feasts are important. -
8:53 - 8:56Then it says “the supreme
manifestation of this is the Sunday -
8:56 - 9:01assembly.” So again, Vatican II
reiterated that Sunday was the day -
9:01 - 9:05that was to be kept. And they
call it the Lord’s day, and in their -
9:05 - 9:11Catechism, article 2174, they admit
that “we all gather on the day of -
9:11 - 9:16the sun, for it is the first day
[after the Jewish Sabbath]” -
9:16 - 9:20there’s no such thing as a Jewish
Sabbath! The Sabbath was instituted -
9:20 - 9:27in Eden long before there was a Jew.
Now, Sunday “in Christ’s Passover, -
9:27 - 9:30Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth
of the Jewish Sabbath and announces -
9:30 - 9:34man’s eternal rest in God.”
And it comes from “tradition” -
9:34 - 9:38this all stands in their catechism,
I’m not going to go into the detail. -
9:38 - 9:41So now if you’re not going
to have the Bible as basis, -
9:41 - 9:45then you better give the people
something else. “Music celebrations” -
9:45 - 9:49this is page 83, Vatican
documents, “actively participate -
9:49 - 9:53more willingly… format of the
celebration and the degree of -
9:53 - 9:57participation in it should be
varies as much as possible.” -
9:57 - 10:00“The liturgy,” now the liturgy is
everything that happens in the -
10:00 - 10:05church beside the sermon,
“marvelously increases their -
10:05 - 10:09(church members) power to preach
Christ” so now let’s put more -
10:09 - 10:14emphasis on the liturgy, and
less emphasis on the what? -
10:14 - 10:16The preaching.
-
10:16 - 10:20And they even call it in some
documents the “holy liturgy”. -
10:20 - 10:25“A sign lifted up among nation”
and to gather the children that -
10:25 - 10:28are “scattered until there
is one fold, one shepherd.” -
10:28 - 10:31Of course that has to be the Pope.
How are we going to do this? -
10:31 - 10:37This is Vatican II, their documentation,
Documents of Vatican II, quote -
10:37 - 10:40“In all popular devotions
the psalms will be especially -
10:40 - 10:43useful, and also works of sacred
music drawn from both the old and -
10:43 - 10:47the more recent heritage of sacred
music, popular religious songs, -
10:47 - 10:51organ, other instruments
characteristic of a particular -
10:51 - 10:54people.” (p. 91). “The
participation in the Celebration -
10:54 - 10:56should be internal, but
“Must be, on the other hand, -
10:56 - 11:01external also… internal
participation by gestures and -
11:01 - 11:06bodily attitudes, by the
acclamations, responses and singing. -
11:06 - 11:11” In other words, Vatican II says,
“let’s make the service lively, -
11:11 - 11:15let’s start moving, let’s have some
bodily attitudes, let’s shake the -
11:15 - 11:20arms,” you know; then it’s not so
important whether you have your -
11:20 - 11:22Bible, in fact it’s hard to hold
your Bible if your arms are -
11:22 - 11:27swinging around like cartwheels.
How must the songs be? -
11:27 - 11:31Let’s go again to the Catechism.
Article 1157, -
11:31 - 11:34“Song and music fulfill their
function as signs in a manner all -
11:34 - 11:36the more significant” that’s fine,
there’s nothing wrong with singing, -
11:36 - 11:39singing must be beautiful
and to the glory of God. -
11:39 - 11:44But they say that music must
be emotional, quote, Vatican -
11:44 - 11:49Catechism, “How I wept, deeply
moved by your hymns, songs and the -
11:49 - 11:53voices that echoed through your
Church! What emotion I experienced -
11:53 - 11:55in them! Those sounds flowed into
my ears, distilling the truth in my -
11:55 - 12:00heart. A feeling of devotion surged
within me, and tears streamed down -
12:00 - 12:04my face – tears that did me good.”
So the more tears and the more -
12:04 - 12:08emotion, the better; switch the
mind off and switch on something -
12:08 - 12:13else. And so the papacy started
using pop groups, and the pope -
12:13 - 12:17started singing to ‘Abba’ music,
and all this sort of stuff started -
12:17 - 12:20coming into the churches,
which was unknown before. -
12:20 - 12:24This is the Pope’s personal little
rock band that goes with him -
12:24 - 12:27sometimes when he travels.
These days they have advanced to -
12:27 - 12:36the more metal groups and all of
those, and by 1967 the faculty and -
12:36 - 12:41students of the Catholic Duquesme
University started become -
12:41 - 12:49charismatic. By 1968 the World
Council of Churches had Catholics -
12:49 - 12:54as observers, by 1975 there
were observers in Nairobi. -
12:54 - 13:01By 1975, a mass gathering took
place at Rome, and Pope Paul the II -
13:01 - 13:06actually started speaking in
tongues. Here it is, Christianity -
13:06 - 13:10Today, June 6, 1975,
“Bishops, archbishops and -
13:10 - 13:14cardinals, struggling to kept heir
hats in place, sang and danced in -
13:14 - 13:17ecstasy, embracing one another
raising their arm to heaven – and -
13:17 - 13:22Pope Paul VI address was
punctuated with ecstatic.” -
13:22 - 13:29So he started speaking in tongues,
great example for the church. -
13:29 - 13:35The Lutheran Church by 1974, the
U. S. Lutheran – Roman Catholic Dialog -
13:35 - 13:39published its: Papal Primacy and
the Universal Church, they were -
13:39 - 13:43beginning to play with the idea
that Rome would again be the head -
13:43 - 13:47of the churches. The Presbyterians,
Congregationalists, Methodists, -
13:47 - 13:50followed; Colin Buchanin writes
that “The emergence of the church -
13:50 - 13:53of Rome as a partner in ecumenical
discussions, and the impact of the -
13:53 - 13:58charismatic movement, has totally
changed ecumenical relationships.” -
13:58 - 14:03So this new spirit makes the talk
between the various opposing -
14:03 - 14:09factions more and more possible.
By 1975 there was a common -
14:09 - 14:13Catechism where the moral
directives and the decalogue were -
14:13 - 14:17questioned, where many passages in
the New Testament were put in the -
14:17 - 14:22mouth of Jesus, things that the
historical Jesus never uttered. -
14:22 - 14:26The physical resurrection is a
problem full of difficulties, etc. -
14:26 - 14:32etc, starting to question the
Bible. By 1977, there was a joint -
14:32 - 14:36Roman Catholic commission which
issued, together with the Anglican -
14:36 - 14:39Church, this statement:
“It seems appropriate that in any -
14:39 - 14:43future union a universal primacy
such as has been described should -
14:43 - 14:46be held by the Roman See.”
So the Anglican Church said, -
14:46 - 14:51“Ok, Pope shall be head.”
By 1989 the Anglican Archbishop of -
14:51 - 14:56Canterbury, the Revered Robert
Runcy went to Rome and urged -
14:56 - 15:00Christians to consider the primacy
of the Pope. Better together. -
15:00 - 15:05There they are, and then came the
famous signing of the document -
15:05 - 15:10where they actually signed, there
is signing, the Pope and Runcy -
15:10 - 15:13signed the declaration at Canterbury,
and the Pope is now the -
15:13 - 15:17head of these churches.
And some nice Masonic signals, -
15:17 - 15:22yes, they’re going to be
together, and the queen, well; -
15:22 - 15:30she and her entourage visit the
Pope and say, well, what did Prince -
15:30 - 15:35Charles say? “I do not want to
longer by the protector of the -
15:35 - 15:42faith, but just protector of faith.”
So Protestantism goes, and of -
15:42 - 15:47course much marching in the
streets of the United Kingdom. -
15:47 - 15:54The next Archbishop of Canterbury
is Carey, and Carey is remarkable -
15:54 - 15:58because of his charismatic
renewal, and speaking in tongues. -
15:58 - 16:03So the Anglican church the
first to go Romward bound. -
16:03 - 16:08Now this is the famous St. Paul’s
Cathedral, there it is, a London bus, -
16:08 - 16:13I photographed this myself,
and this is a stunning picture, -
16:13 - 16:18what do you see?
What does it look like? -
16:18 - 16:22It looks like a miniature of the
Vatican, yes, in fact it is a -
16:22 - 16:28replica of the Vatican; and
the very amazing thing is that -
16:28 - 16:31St. Paul’s Cathedral never looked
like that. Never looked like that, -
16:31 - 16:36in fact it used to look like that;
but now it has been totally -
16:36 - 16:43rebuilt, and it now looks like that.
Doesn’t this sound remarkably like -
16:43 - 16:46an image of the beast?
And image of the beast? -
16:46 - 16:50Well let’s go inside.
You have to be very sneaky with -
16:50 - 16:54your camera when you go in there.
And, this is what it looks like -
16:54 - 16:58now, there’s the min altar;
wow, the main altar is an exact -
16:58 - 17:02copy of Bernini’s canopy in Rome.
-
17:02 - 17:06That means the Protestant
church here has copied Rome. -
17:06 - 17:10Very interesting, there are the
black and white squares, they have -
17:10 - 17:15cupids with other angelic beings.
Male-females, etc. -
17:15 - 17:19and if you look at the ceiling and
you photograph the top, you will -
17:19 - 17:24find beautiful Masonic symbols.
This is Masonry, this is not -
17:24 - 17:28Church of England, so the Church of
England has capitulated and has -
17:28 - 17:33become part of Masonry, and
therefore we could say Luciferian, -
17:33 - 17:38sad but true. Well in front of the
main altar there you have the -
17:38 - 17:42typical solar symbols.
Looking from the top, it’s like a -
17:42 - 17:46witch’s cove, it’s been
restructured; this is occultism. -
17:46 - 17:51In fact it even has the black and
white pentagram on the floor. -
17:51 - 17:55And on the floor it has the symbol
of the serpent with the tail in the -
17:55 - 17:59mouth representing the sun and the
moon, by the way those are my -
17:59 - 18:05shoes, they were nice and clean.
And the solar deities on the -
18:05 - 18:09floor, so this is nothing other
than Catholicism, here are symbols -
18:09 - 18:14of New Age, these are the
peacocks, symbols of Lucifer. -
18:14 - 18:20The triangles in the circle, the
hexagrams, and of course the -
18:20 - 18:27corpses under the altar, and IHS on
their – and sun blazes on their -
18:27 - 18:34utilities, also the mythical
pelican or the bird feeding its -
18:34 - 18:37young to its flesh;
these are occult symbols. -
18:37 - 18:41No wonder Pope John Paul II could
write in Crossing the Threshold of -
18:41 - 18:47Hope, that by the year 2000,
“we need to be more united.” -
18:47 - 18:51“For unity, all churches must
accept papal authority.” -
18:51 - 18:57The Pope said in 1995.
That’s the condition of unity. -
18:57 - 19:02Now why did the Reformation split
from Rome? Surely the Reformation -
19:02 - 19:06had good reasons, biblical reason;
Revelation 13:8 said, -
19:06 - 19:10“And all that dwell upon the earth
shall worship him, whose names are -
19:10 - 19:15not written in the book of life of
the Lamb slain from the foundation -
19:15 - 19:20of the world.” Well, they have
surely corrupted that one in the -
19:20 - 19:23modern translations, but never
mind that’s what it says; -
19:23 - 19:27they shall not be written in the
book of life if they worship this -
19:27 - 19:34system by obeying it. Here is the
Dom zu Berlin, this is the Lutheran -
19:34 - 19:40Mother church if you like in
Germany, and there they have huge -
19:40 - 19:43pictures of Mary with candles
burning in front of it, there you -
19:43 - 19:49have it, this is back to Rome, and
the Weltbild published the picture -
19:49 - 19:56of Martin Luther shaking hands with
the Pope. Well in the 1980s, the -
19:56 - 20:01Pope went to Mainz Germany, and he
said “ecumenism is an urgent task.” -
20:01 - 20:05And then “Christians forging
accords for new era… Churches have -
20:05 - 20:11a pact” and then the famous synod
in the German, the Lutheran synod: -
20:11 - 20:15“Heiβe Eisen und alte Zöpfe”
these old bones of contention if -
20:15 - 20:18you like, and they decided
“Der Papst sall nicht -
20:18 - 20:23merh…Antichrist genaimnt warden”
the Pope will no longer be called -
20:23 - 20:28Antichrist. Well that’s the end of
the Reformation as far as Lutheran -
20:28 - 20:32is concerned. Time Magazine
then picked it up and said, -
20:32 - 20:37“A half-Millennium Rift: Lutherans
and Catholics reach agreement on -
20:37 - 20:40the issues that once split
western Christianity in two.” -
20:40 - 20:47And by 1999, November 1,
“churches end 500-year rift” -
20:47 - 20:53so the Lutherans acknowledged the
Pope. And this amazing statement: -
20:53 - 21:00“Germany calls to ask:
forgive Luther” for what? -
21:00 - 21:05For what should he be forgiven?
And the Calvinistic church, they -
21:05 - 21:09said “we need to have more respect
for the icons and the things, we -
21:09 - 21:14cannot just go together like this.”
“Lutheran leader says Pope might -
21:14 - 21:18be global spokesperson for all
Christians. Friday Church News -
21:18 - 21:23Notes, July 6, 2001. – Ishmael
Noko, general secretary of the -
21:23 - 21:25Lutheran World Fellowship, said in
March that Lutherans -
21:25 - 21:30“‘can certainly look to the Pope’
as “one of the spiritual leaders in -
21:30 - 21:33the world today.’ He went on to say
that the ecumenical movement -
21:33 - 21:36requires Christians to look into
the possibility that the Pope -
21:36 - 21:40should become the “global
spokesperson for all Christians.’” -
21:40 - 21:44So the Anglicans capitulate,
the Lutherans capitulate, -
21:44 - 21:48the Presbyterians capitulate,
the Methodists capitulate, everybody -
21:48 - 21:52capitulates. In Germany you have
now churches such as this one which -
21:52 - 21:55I find interesting, there’s the
Catholic side, there’s the -
21:55 - 22:03Protestant side, and they share the
bell tower. And by the year 2000, -
22:03 - 22:08the Knights of Columbus (which of
course is Jesuit controlled) -
22:08 - 22:14started sending icons of Our Lady
of Guadalupe to all the churches in -
22:14 - 22:18the world. “Nativity of the blessed
Virgin… ‘It’s wonderful’ said Gino -
22:18 - 22:23Masotti, grand knight of the
Knights of Columbus Council 11608 -
22:23 - 22:26at Precious Blood Cathedral”
that he hopes everybody bows down -
22:26 - 22:30to the icon. Then came the Joint
Declaration of Lutherans and -
22:30 - 22:35Catholics, where they discussed
the doctrine of justification, a -
22:35 - 22:39brilliantly written document, which
totally undermines the Protestant -
22:39 - 22:44principle. Well, if the Bible goes,
you better get livelier so that -
22:44 - 22:49people don’t read the Bible so much.
“Theologen wollen lebendiger -
22:49 - 22:54warden” Theologians want to become
livelier, let’s got o church to -
22:54 - 23:00have some, you know, some liturgy,
some movement; I don’t know, you -
23:00 - 23:03know if you swing your arms, maybe
you can switch the air conditioners -
23:03 - 23:08off, I don’t know what the aim
of it all is, but churches forge -
23:08 - 23:11together. “But in recent years many
leaders of national churches have -
23:11 - 23:15moved from a cautious “No comment”
to the view that the charismatic -
23:15 - 23:18movement is the best hope for a
renewal. Professor Hollenweger -
23:18 - 23:22said exactly the same thing: he
said, “Catholics and Protestants” -
23:22 - 23:25come together because of the
“charismatic movement” which -
23:25 - 23:27“has worked miracles.”
-
23:27 - 23:33“Charismatic wave of unity among
S. A. churches” then the Dutch Reform -
23:33 - 23:36church says “The time is more than
ripe to look at what we have in -
23:36 - 23:40common and not only at what
separates us.” And all these great -
23:40 - 23:45people say exactly the same thing,
the moderators of all these great -
23:45 - 23:50churches. By 1990’s the World
Council of Churches was not the -
23:50 - 23:54same as it used to be.
Originally the World Council of -
23:54 - 24:00Churches was there to talk about
Protestant unity, but of course it -
24:00 - 24:05had an agenda to be led towards
Rome. Why is Rome not a member of -
24:05 - 24:09the ecumenical movement?
Because it never separated, it’s -
24:09 - 24:14the mother, it’s the kiddies that
must come together to go back to -
24:14 - 24:19mommy, that’s what’s got to happen.
If Rome became a member of the -
24:19 - 24:23ecumenical movement she would
saythat she’s one of the sisters. -
24:23 - 24:28She’s not, she’s the mother, so
she cannot be. And at the World -
24:28 - 24:31Council of Churches, they said here
“come Holy Spirit… renew the Whole -
24:31 - 24:36Creation” was the overall theme.
Now the lady who was in charge of -
24:36 - 24:41the main speech at the beginning
was Ms Chung Kyung as she burns a -
24:41 - 24:44list of the dead she invoked.
Well she gave the address, she is -
24:44 - 24:50now professor at UTS, and she
arrived on the stage dancing with -
24:50 - 24:57Aboriginal men, in loincloths, etc.
And then she invoked the dead, she -
24:57 - 25:02called up Hagar, Uriah, male
babies killed by Herod, Joan of Arc, -
25:02 - 25:06people killed in the gas chambers,
Mahatma Gandhi, Steve Biko, Martin -
25:06 - 25:09Luther King, and finally she
also called up the spirit of our -
25:09 - 25:15Liberator, Jesus Christ.
And then she burnt the list as a -
25:15 - 25:20symbol. Now let’s look
at what happens here. -
25:20 - 25:24“Combining verbal fireworks with a
performance by Korean and -
25:24 - 25:29aboriginal dancers, Chung rendered
a dramatic evocation of a female -
25:29 - 25:34Holy Spirit… she linked [it] to
Hagar… ‘exploited and abandoned by -
25:34 - 25:38Abraham and Sarah’… ‘I also know
that I no longer believe in an -
25:38 - 25:42omnipotent, Macho, warrior God who
rescues all good guy sand punishes -
25:42 - 25:46all bad guys…’ “Eighteen times
Chung summoned the spirits of the -
25:46 - 25:50dead who have suffered injustices
and claimed that ‘without hearing -
25:50 - 25:52the cries of these spirits, we
cannot hear the voice of the Holy -
25:52 - 25:58Spirit… Don’t bother the Spirit by
calling her all the time.’ -
25:58 - 26:03Added Chung, ‘I hope the presence
of all our ancestors’ spirits here -
26:03 - 26:06with us shall not make
you uncomfortable.’” -
26:06 - 26:12Well is this biblical, yes or no?
Definitely not, but she is the -
26:12 - 26:18minister of the biggest Protestant
church in Korea, and she is now -
26:18 - 26:24also Professor at UTS.
Chung Hyun Kung -
26:24 - 26:27“… was a graduate of the Union
Theological Seminary.” -
26:27 - 26:31Which I’ve already told you is
Masonic, “Chung was ‘a professor of -
26:31 - 26:35Korea’s Ewha Women’s University,
the world’s largest university for -
26:35 - 26:40women, with 20,000 students’”
She said: “The three goddesses I -
26:40 - 26:43want to share with you are Kali
[Hindu], Kwan-in [Buddhist], and -
26:43 - 26:48Enna [Philippines]… my new trinity.’
”Interesting, “she added: -
26:48 - 26:50‘The Christian church
has been very patriarchal. -
26:50 - 26:53That’s why we are here together,
in order to destroy this -
26:53 - 26:56patriarchal idolatry
of Christianity.’” -
26:56 - 27:02Ok, so that’s the main spokesmen
at most of the World Council of -
27:02 - 27:06Church’s meetings. She explains:
“I came from… a Shamanist, Buddhist -
27:06 - 27:10and Confucian and Taoist and
Christian tradition… when I look at -
27:10 - 27:15our history of religion, we have
more than 5000 years of Shamanism, -
27:15 - 27:21more than 2000 years of Taoism, and
almost 2000 years of Buddhism, 700 -
27:21 - 27:27years of Confucianism and only 100
years of Protestantism in Korea. -
27:27 - 27:31Therefore, whenever I go to temples…
and look at Buddha, I feel so young… -
27:31 - 27:36Buddha died in his 80s
and Jesus died when he was 33. -
27:36 - 27:42Maybe… Jesus should be called
‘Too young to understand.’… -
27:42 - 27:50Wow, “I feel like my bowel is Shamanist,
my heart is Buddhist, my right -
27:50 - 27:53Brain is Confucianist, and my left
brain is Christian,’ Kyung -
27:53 - 27:59continued. ‘I call it a family of
gods and… they are together.’” -
27:59 - 28:02So do you see the direction in
which the World Council of Church’s -
28:02 - 28:06is moving? Kyung also said:
“We believe that this life-giving -
28:06 - 28:10energy came from god and it is
everywhere. It is in the sun, in -
28:10 - 28:16the oc-” here we go again, how
nauseating, what is this? Pantheism. -
28:16 - 28:19“It is from the ground, and it is
from the trees… If you feel very -
28:19 - 28:23tired and you feel you don’t have
any energy to give, what you do is -
28:23 - 28:26sit in silence, maybe you go to big
tree and ask… ‘give me some of your -
28:26 - 28:31life energy.’ Or you ask the sun to
give you some life energy.” -
28:31 - 28:35Well is this Christianity, yes or
no? No this is absolutely not -
28:35 - 28:39Christianity. “Kyung was also a
speaker at the World Council of -
28:39 - 28:44Churches in Harare, Zimbabwe in
November 1998 where she performed a -
28:44 - 28:48sensual dance. Dr. Kyung declared
that to witness about Jesus Christ -
28:48 - 28:52to another person is in
reality ‘an act of violence.’ -
28:52 - 28:56Now let’s get to the hub of the
matter, to witness about Jesus -
28:56 - 29:03Christ is an act of violence, why?
Because you are doing what? -
29:03 - 29:06You are going against the human
rights of the other individual who -
29:06 - 29:09might be a Buddhist or a
Hindu or a this or a that. -
29:09 - 29:13He has the right to be what he is,
and if you tell him something else, -
29:13 - 29:16‘that you have to believe in Jesus
Christ,’ then you are committing an -
29:16 - 29:24act of violence. So in other words,
what I am doing is an act of violence, ok. -
29:24 - 29:29“When reminded that Jesus said in
John 14:6 that He is the only way, -
29:29 - 29:35Kyung said Jesus ‘was mistaken.’”
Ok, that’s why the World Council -
29:35 - 29:39of Churches uses demons and all
kinds of interesting things. -
29:39 - 29:46And we have Oikoumene, Oikoumene,
now what does Oikoumene mean? -
29:46 - 29:51Here we have an example of Oikoumene.
Well let’s ask the World Council of -
29:51 - 29:56Church’s webpage what
Oikoumene actually means. -
29:56 - 30:01“The world ‘ecumenical’ is derived
from the Greek term oikoumene, -
30:01 - 30:07which may be translated as
‘the whole inhabited world’. -
30:07 - 30:11It is in seeing this world as God’s
that we see ourselves as one. -
30:11 - 30:14It is in seeing all the world’s
people as made in God’s image -
30:14 - 30:20that we are called to protect the
welfare of every one. Interesting. -
30:20 - 30:26Now remember that I always show
you that Gary Kahr said the ancient -
30:26 - 30:29Babylonian religion through
Kabbalism etc. through to -
30:29 - 30:33Freemasonry controls Marxism,
the American Secret Political -
30:33 - 30:38Societies, the International Baking,
and the World Council of Churches. -
30:38 - 30:40Do you think he might
have been right? -
30:40 - 30:45With their teaching, “Jesus
was wrong, he was too young -
30:45 - 30:51to understand… we have nature
worship” all of these things, that -
30:51 - 30:55is definitely not biblical.
What does - “Alice A. Bailey, -
30:55 - 31:00the Foundress of Lucifer
Trust, in 1919” she predicted -
31:00 - 31:03“the appearance of ‘a Universal
Church’ of which ‘the definitive -
31:03 - 31:08outline will appear toward
the end of the century’… -
31:08 - 31:13“There will not be any dissociation
between the Universal Church, the -
31:13 - 31:16Sacred Lodge of all true Masons”
see how they’re bringing it -
31:16 - 31:21together? “And the inner circles
of the esoteric societies… In this -
31:21 - 31:25way, the goals and work of the
United Nations shall be solidified -
31:25 - 31:30and a new Church of God, led by all
the religions and by all of the -
31:30 - 31:35spiritual groups, shall put an end
to the great heresy of separateness.” -
31:35 - 31:39Good, this requires a whole
lecture, this is heavy stuff; -
31:39 - 31:44so there’s a lecture coming,
“The UN & the Occult Agenda’ it’s -
31:44 - 31:50on your paper, this is very heavy.
She says “the churches, the lodges,” -
31:50 - 31:54sacred lodge by the way,
“the esoteric societies” -
31:54 - 31:58by the end of the century will
work together to bring about this -
31:58 - 32:04New World Religion. Now as a
Christian believing that Jesus is -
32:04 - 32:09the only way, can I join
this society, yes or no? -
32:09 - 32:15You’re all so adamant, this is
very strange. “Norman Vincent Peale” -
32:15 - 32:17now who is Norman Vincent Peale?
Probably one of the greatest -
32:17 - 32:22preachers of our times,
“(33rd Degree Freemason): -
32:22 - 32:26Freemasonry has always welcomed
men of all faiths and religious beliefs -
32:26 - 32:29to enter its doors. The only
requirement is for good men to -
32:29 - 32:32believe in the Supreme Architect
and the immortality of the soul.” -
32:32 - 32:36None of which is of course biblical.
“Masons, in fact, go beyond narrow -
32:36 - 32:39sectarianism and limiting dogma.
They agree with the statement of the -
32:39 - 32:43famous statesman and writer
Edmund Burke: ‘The body of all true -
32:43 - 32:47religion consists, to be sure,
in obedience to the will of the -
32:47 - 32:51Sovereign of the world, in a confidence
in His declarations, and in imitation -
32:51 - 32:56of His perfection.’” That’s what Norman
Vincent Peale said who is a 33 degree -
32:56 - 33:01Freemason. As is Bishop Carl J. Sanders,
33°, G.C. United Methodist Church. -
33:01 - 33:05Rabbi Seymour Atlas, Dr. James
Wesberry, Executive Director -
33:05 - 33:08and Editor of Sunday
Georgia Baptist Church. -
33:08 - 33:11He’s a 32° Freemason.
Reverend Louis Grant, District -
33:11 - 33:14Superintendent The United Methodist
Church, 33° Freemason. -
33:14 - 33:18Reverend blah blah blah blah, on
and on and on. Well Norman Vincent -
33:18 - 33:21Peale said “I have found…that the
Scottish Rite and the Symbolic -
33:21 - 33:24Lodge espouse the belief of no one
religion, but are a respecter of -
33:24 - 33:29all major religions of the world.”
And Billy Graham says that Norman -
33:29 - 33:37Vincent Peale is his great mentor.
Interesting, he has a 33° mentor. -
33:37 - 33:41Billy Graham, World’s most popular
‘Christian’ evangelist is – was -
33:41 - 33:44listed on web pages as -
a 33rd degree Freemason. -
33:44 - 33:47By themselves, after much
criticism they took them off all -
33:47 - 33:54the lists. Shaw was himself a 33°
freemason, revealed that Billy -
33:54 - 33:59Graham was at his initiation
ceremony, but in his book, -
33:59 - 34:06The Deception, he talks about a
prominent evangelist who attended it, -
34:06 - 34:09so that he could get his book
published. Norman Vincent Peale -
34:09 - 34:16is a definite 33° Freemason, ex Grand
Chaplain of the Grand Lodge of New -
34:16 - 34:21York, this is the one that Billy
Graham said is his mentor. -
34:21 - 34:26Robert Schuller, 33° Freemason,
these are webpage sites where you -
34:26 - 34:30can look it up, but of course there
are many many writings which -
34:30 - 34:33confirm this, so this is not the
only source; I’m just quoting from -
34:33 - 34:38the sources. Oral Roberts, Jesse
Jackson, most of the early founding -
34:38 - 34:41Mormons, we know that;
Jehovah’s witness, we know all -
34:41 - 34:46that. Peale, let’s have a look at
Norman Vincent Peale, endorsed the -
34:46 - 34:48channeled messages
called the “Jesus Letters”, -
34:48 - 34:53written by Jane Palzere and Anna
Brown. So he endorsed channeled -
34:53 - 34:57letters. “The amazing holy letters
where written on each day over a
t -
34:57 - 35:01wo-year period that began on a
morning in 1978. -
35:01 - 35:05She said the letters were dictated
by a ‘nonliving spirit’ who -
35:05 - 35:09identified Himself through
her pen as Jesus Christ.” -
35:09 - 35:13There’s the quote: …Peale’s response…
He adds: “it little matters if these -
35:13 - 35:17writings came from Jesus of Nazareth
or Jesus of Jane, they are -
35:17 - 35:21all the same consciousness
and that consciousness is God. -
35:21 - 35:26I am part of God and Jane and
Anna are part of that same God.” -
35:26 - 35:31Right, that’s what Norman Vincent
Peale taught, this is the mentor of -
35:31 - 35:37Billy Graham. Interesting.
…speaking of occultist Kreskin… -
35:37 - 35:40“All he’s doing” says
Norman Vincent Peale -
35:40 - 35:45“is dramatizing what I’ve been
preaching in my writing for years.” -
35:45 - 35:48Another book, The Dead Are Alive!
They Can and Do Communicate with -
35:48 - 35:52You, was also promoted by Peale.
He gushed: “A masterpiece!... -
35:52 - 35:58I hope it will be widely read.”
Ok, this is the mentor of Billy -
35:58 - 36:01Graham, just remember that.
“The book’s author is Harold -
36:01 - 36:04Sherman, a psychic and spirit
medium who also wrote a companion -
36:04 - 36:06book, You live after death.”
-
36:06 - 36:11Pope John Paul II visit the Jewish
Synagogue by 1986, ’87 -
36:11 - 36:16he tours the US, meets with
Protestants and Orthodox, ‘88-’89: -
36:16 - 36:20Russia opens the door to the
charismatic movement, and so -
36:20 - 36:25they’re all coming together
in one big happy family. -
36:25 - 36:28The Southern Cross,
the Catholic Newspaper write, -
36:28 - 36:33“Israel’s chief rabbi pays visit to
Pope” The patriarch of course of -
36:33 - 36:38the Orthodox church and the Pope
also meet with much Masonic -
36:38 - 36:42signaling going over there.
“Israel invites the Pope to visit -
36:42 - 36:47the Holy Land” and the Pope
honors Shindler’s widow. -
36:47 - 36:54This is the Rabbi, Robert Jacobs, let’s
here what he has to say on this issue. -
36:54 - 37:03“And in 1965 Vatican II changed that,”
-
37:03 - 37:06“Jacob says the second Vatican
council marked an historic turn -
37:06 - 37:09around for Catholic Jewish
relations. And he says John Paul II -
37:09 - 37:12has done extraordinary things to
show respect for Judaism. -
37:12 - 37:15He was the first Pope to visit a
synagogue.” -
37:15 - 37:19Jacobs:
“No Pope in Roman history had ever -
37:19 - 37:27done, has ever done, what he has
done. It gives all Jews a feeling -
37:27 - 37:33that for the first time in Christian
church history, Judaism -
37:33 - 37:39is appreciated as having its own
integrity, and is not demeaned. -
37:39 - 37:46I think it’s a tremendous privilege
to meet this extraordinary Pope.” -
37:46 - 37:50Veith: And then when the Pope
visited St. Louis, this is what he -
37:50 - 37:57had to say. Jacob: “We rejoice and
blossom, they will blossom with -
37:57 - 38:04abundant flowers and
rejoice with joyful song.” -
38:04 - 38:10Veith: That’s interesting, well here
is Aleksy, the Russian patriarch, -
38:10 - 38:17and there he is with Cardinal Cassidy,
and they have much more freedom; -
38:17 - 38:21this is a signal picture
by the way, Oikoumene, -
38:21 - 38:24the Pope and the patriarch together.
-
38:24 - 38:30And we have a revival of Eastern
Orthodoxy. Occultism is revived, -
38:30 - 38:34Asian religions are revived, Islam,
Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, -
38:34 - 38:39Sokka Gakkai, and Spiritism.
In the world there is a revival of -
38:39 - 38:43religion and religious fervor and
conflict is on the increase, have -
38:43 - 38:50you noticed that? Yes, now why?
Because through chaos and -
38:50 - 38:55conflict, you will bring them
together, make the pain of -
38:55 - 39:03separation greater than the
pain of union. Thesis, antithesis, -
39:03 - 39:08synthesis is the Hegelian
philosophy. “Great expectations” -
39:08 - 39:14the patriarch of Constantinople
says, “we will join the churches”. -
39:14 - 39:17Then the opening of the Islamic
Cultural Centre in Rome, Catholic -
39:17 - 39:23Bishops residing; Pope John Paul
greets them, Islam and Catholicism, -
39:23 - 39:26we’ve dealt with it in a whole
lecture, coming together. -
39:26 - 39:31The problem is how to bring
Judaism, Islam, Christianity all -
39:31 - 39:36together. These are documents from
the Catholic Academy of Trier, note -
39:36 - 39:41what they are using over here, what
is the symbolism they are using -
39:41 - 39:44with all these strange
symbols on their documents? -
39:44 - 39:49Same over here, pentagrams, all
the religious symbols in a circle, -
39:49 - 39:54papal seminary; what is this
structure here with the mystic taos -
39:54 - 39:57around it, what does it mean, the
emblem of the centenary of the -
39:57 - 40:02Catholic Church in Cameroon.
Well these are Kalyant’s and -
40:02 - 40:06Mandala’s that they are using,
these are symbols of Eastern -
40:06 - 40:12Religions symbolizing unity of all
the churches. Pope and the Dalai -
40:12 - 40:18Lama together, and it is
interesting that we need to study -
40:18 - 40:23what the Protestant world has to
say on this issue as well, and I -
40:23 - 40:29would like to show you the great
Protestant preachers and what they -
40:29 - 40:32are actually preaching, now Robert
Schuller is listed on many many -
40:32 - 40:37webpages as a 33 degree Freemason.
Well the proof of the pudding of course -
40:37 - 40:43is always in the eating. He wrote here
in The Fourth Dimension, Foreword, -
40:43 - 40:49“I discovered the reality of that
dynamic dimension in prayer that -
40:49 - 40:53comes through visualizing…
Don’t try to understand it. -
40:53 - 40:57Just start to enjoy it!
It’s true. It works. I tried it.” -
40:57 - 41:01Now visualizing is the way in
which you start visualizing -
41:01 - 41:06something and it becomes part of
your fantasy world, they train -
41:06 - 41:11little kids to do this, this is
occult technique, it’s occultism. -
41:11 - 41:17Here is his famous cathedral, the
crystal palace, there he is, this -
41:17 - 41:21great preacher; by the way he took
the plans of this cathedral and he -
41:21 - 41:25took them to Rome in order to have
them blessed by the Pope. -
41:25 - 41:29That’s very interesting that
Robert Schuller should take these -
41:29 - 41:35to the Pope to have them blessed.
His son is now obviously taking -
41:35 - 41:38over the ministry as he
gets a little bit older. -
41:38 - 41:42Robert Schuller: Quotes from
Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, -
41:42 - 41:48he writes, “Classical theology has
erred in its insistence that -
41:48 - 41:52theology be ‘God-centered,’
not ‘man-centered’” (p. 64). -
41:52 - 41:58That’s very interesting, that’s
spoken like a true Freemason, -
41:58 - 42:03wouldn’t you agree?
Yes, on p. 153 he writes -
42:03 - 42:08“One classical role of the pulpit
in Protestantism has been to -
42:08 - 42:15‘preach sermons’ – oh - which imply
indoctrination more than education. -
42:15 - 42:19Within this form of communication,
there is an inherent, intrinsic -
42:19 - 42:23inclination to intimidate,
manipulate, and, hence, offend the -
42:23 - 42:28person’s most prized quality
of humanness – his dignity” -
42:28 - 42:36Well that sounds like Vatican II,
let’s move to liturgy, let’s have -
42:36 - 42:42all these wonderful things other
than the preaching of the word. -
42:42 - 42:46He writes on page 14,
“Sin is any act or thought that -
42:46 - 42:52robs myself or another human
being of his or her self-esteem” -
42:52 - 42:55that’s interesting because
I thought the Bible said, -
42:55 - 42:59“sin is the transgression of the
law,” isn’t it right? -
42:59 - 43:03He writes on page 26-27
“What we need is a theology of -
43:03 - 43:07salvation that begins and ends with
a recognition of every person’s -
43:07 - 43:18hunger for glory” Oh, I thought
that justification is something -
43:18 - 43:23that actually lays man’s glory in
the dust, that’s what I thought, it -
43:23 - 43:27makes Jesus Christ more, and me
less; isn’t that what the Bible -
43:27 - 43:35teaches? “He must increase,
I must decrease” wow, p. 68 -
43:35 - 43:39“To be born again means that we
must be changed from a negative to -
43:39 - 43:46a positive self-image – from
inferiority to self-esteem, from -
43:46 - 43:50fear to love, from doubt to trust”.
Very interesting theology. -
43:50 - 43:57Page 75 “The Cross sanctifies the
ego trip. For the Cross protected -
43:57 - 44:01our Lord’s perfect self-esteem
from turning into sinful pride.” -
44:01 - 44:08Now that is just plain blasphemy
as far as I’m concerned. Page 135 -
44:08 - 44:13“Christ is the Ideal One, for he
was Self-Esteem Incarnate”. -
44:13 - 44:17I thought he came to
show humility, didn’t he? -
44:17 - 44:24My Bible says he was humble.
“Jesus never called a person a -
44:24 - 44:28sinner. … Rather he reserved his
righteous rebuke for those who used -
44:28 - 44:33their religious authority to generate
guilt and caused people to -
44:33 - 44:38lose their ability to taste and
enjoy their right to dignity…” -
44:38 - 44:43Interesting. I thought he said
“I have not called the righteous, -
44:43 - 44:47but sinners to repentance”
didn’t he say that? -
44:47 - 44:50So this man is obviously using
some strange document, -
44:50 - 44:55I don’t know which Bible he uses.
He says “… the church’s problem is -
44:55 - 45:00that it had a God-centered theology
for centuries, when it needs a -
45:00 - 45:04man-centered one; (2) we’re not
bad, merely badly informed about -
45:04 - 45:12how good we are;” oh, Robert
Schuller, that’s a fascinating -
45:12 - 45:16statement! “It would be an insult
to the integrity of any human being -
45:16 - 45:21to call him a sinner;”
I thought when he comes, the Holy -
45:21 - 45:29Spirit, he will convict us of sin
and righteousness and judgment. -
45:29 - 45:34“Jesus knew His wroth;
His success fed His self-esteem. -
45:34 - 45:39He suffered the cross to sanctify
His self-esteem and He bore the -
45:39 - 45:44cross to sanctify your self-esteem.
The cross will sanctify the ego trip”. -
45:44 - 45:49Isn’t this pathetic?
This man is not a Christian, -
45:49 - 45:55he’s a Mason. Now, remember when
I say Mason, I mean high Mason, -
45:55 - 45:59because the poor lower grades of
Masons know nothing about all of this; -
45:59 - 46:05high Mason, let me qualify.
[Schuller further amplified this -
46:05 - 46:09latter thought on the 8/12/80 Phil
Donahue Show; Schuller said, -
46:09 - 46:13“Jesus had an ego. He said,
‘I, if I be lifted up, will draw all -
46:13 - 46:19men unto me.’ Wow, what an ego trip
He was on!”] That’s disgusting. -
46:19 - 46:23Questioner, this is a questioner
to Schuller: “How could the cross, -
46:23 - 46:26as you write, “sanctify the ego
trip,” and make us proud, in the -
46:26 - 46:31light of passages that say,
“I hate pride and arrogance (Prov. 8:13), -
46:31 - 46:34“Pride goes before
destruction” (Prov. 16:18), -
46:34 - 46:39“The Lord detests all the proud”
(Prov. 16:5), “Do not be proud” -
46:39 - 46:44(Rom. 12:16), “Love does not
boast, it is not proud” (1 Cor. 13:4). -
46:44 - 46:46In fact Paul warns Timothy
that in the last days men -
46:46 - 46:50“will be lovers of themselves”
(2 Tim. 3:2). …” -
46:50 - 46:53Good questioner, I like the
questioner already, -
46:53 - 46:56“Why should we do anything to
encourage people to become -
46:56 - 46:59“lovers of themselves” if Paul
in fact warned others that -
46:59 - 47:03that would be the state of
godlessness in the last days?” -
47:03 - 47:07Schuller: “I hope you don't [preach
this] because you could do a lot of -
47:07 - 47:12damage to a lot of beautiful people.
… if you preach that text, oh man, -
47:12 - 47:16I sure hop you give it the kind of
interpretation that I do, or I’ll -
47:16 - 47:19tell you, you’ll drive them farther
away and they’ll be madder than -
47:19 - 47:22hell at you and they’ll turn the
Bible off, and they’ll switch you -
47:22 - 47:24off, and they’ll turn on the
rock music and Madonna. -
47:24 - 47:29Just because it’s in the Bible
doesn’t mean you should preach it. -
47:29 - 47:33… it is so difficult to preach
some of those texts and not come -
47:33 - 47:36across as lacking humility…” 11/92 radio
interview with Robert Schuller Rapidnet.com. -
47:36 - 47:39See how these people turn it round?
-
47:39 - 47:43Robert Schuller: “… what sets me apart
from fundamentalists [is that they] are -
47:43 - 47:47trying to convert everybody to believe
how they believe. … We know the things -
47:47 - 47:52the major faiths can agree on.
We try to focus on those without -
47:52 - 47:56offending those with different view-points. …”
(3/23/89, USA Today). There’s the quote, -
47:56 - 48:00USA Today. -Schuller said:
“When we know we have been redeemed -
48:00 - 48:04and we know we are part of God’s
family, we are ready to dream that -
48:04 - 48:09great divine dream of building the
kingdom of God in the world.” -
48:09 - 48:13Now the Kingdom of God
I thought was not of this world, -
48:13 - 48:18didn’t you think so as well?
Robert Schuller said after his -
48:18 - 48:22thousandth telecast, when he was
congratulated by Mother Theresa, -
48:22 - 48:25she was still alive there;
Billy Graham congratulated him, -
48:25 - 48:28S. Scott King, Martin Luther [King],
all the living presidents of the -
48:28 - 48:31United States as well as Sammy
Davis Junior – who was a Satanist. -
48:31 - 48:37They all congratulated him.
“What we need is to positivise the -
48:37 - 48:40words that have only had a negative
connotation. There is no greater -
48:40 - 48:44damage that can be done than to
refer to the lost sinful condition -
48:44 - 48:49of man.” Let me tell you something,
if man doesn’t realize that he is -
48:49 - 48:53in a lost sinful condition, then he
will never need a savior, and then -
48:53 - 48:58he will be lost. “I don’t think
anything has been done in the name -
48:58 - 49:01of Christ that and under the banner
of Christianity that has proven -
49:01 - 49:04more destructive to human
personality and, hence, -
49:04 - 49:08counterproductive to the evangelism
enterprise than the often crude, -
49:08 - 49:12uncouth, and unchristian strategy
of attempting to make people aware -
49:12 - 49:14of their lost and sinful condition.”
(Time, March 18, 1985). -
49:14 - 49:20Wow, that’s disgusting.
Well he goes further than that, -
49:20 - 49:24let’s have a look at what he really
consists of. “The most effective -
49:24 - 49:30mantras employ the “M” sound.
You can get the feel of it by -
49:30 - 49:35repeating the words,
“I am, I am” many times over…. -
49:35 - 49:39Transcendental Meditation or TM…
is not a religion nor is it -
49:39 - 49:41necessarily anti-Christian.”
(Peace of Mind Through Possibility -
49:41 - 49:43Thinking, pp. 131-32).
Wow, you can chant -
49:43 - 49:48“I am, I am, I am”? What
do you think about that? -
49:48 - 49:52Now you’re saying I’m God, surely
you don’t mean that mister -
49:52 - 49:56Schuller, do you? Methodist,
Anglican, all of them come -
49:56 - 50:00together, they all begin to
believe in life after death. -
50:00 - 50:04Well here in self-esteem the new
Reformation, Robert Schuller -
50:04 - 50:08writes, “To be born again means
that we must be changed from a -
50:08 - 50:13negative to a positive self-image –
from inferiority to self esteem, -
50:13 - 50:18from fear to love, from doubt to
trust. ……. And we can pray,” -
50:18 - 50:23Note what mister Schuller says,
Dr. Schuller, sorry, ‘Our Father in -
50:23 - 50:29heaven, honorable is our name
[emphasis in the original].” -
50:29 - 50:34What is Robert Schuller saying?
He’s saying he is God. -
50:34 - 50:43Is this biblical or is it demonic
theology, you tell me, you choose; -
50:43 - 50:49it’s demonic. Who approves of his
theology, who likes his theology? -
50:49 - 50:52There it says, “Discover Your
Possibilities” Robert Schuller, -
50:52 - 50:55Positive, inspirational
guidelines, who endorces it? -
50:55 - 51:01“Dr. Schuller has an amazing ministry,”
Dr. Billy Graham. -
51:01 - 51:09Birds of a feather flock together.
Who is Billy Graham? -
51:09 - 51:12Here he is, one of the greatest
preachers of our time, Christian in -
51:12 - 51:17Winter, here he is with Nixon,
“When you went into the ministry. -
51:17 - 51:21Politics lost one of its
potentially greatest practitioners.” -
51:21 - 51:25Remember that Nixon had a Jesuit
speech writer? Do you remember that? -
51:25 - 51:31We showed you those quotes.
And, you know if everybody loves -
51:31 - 51:36you in the world, well;
it gets kind of scary. -
51:36 - 51:41Here he is at Madison Square
Gardens, here he is at the U.S. -
51:41 - 51:45Capital during the presentation of
the Congressional Gold Medal that -
51:45 - 51:49he received with Al Gore sitting
there. “On receiving honorary -
51:49 - 51:53doctorate from the Roman Catholic
Belmont College, said the: -
51:53 - 51:57“gospel that founded this college
is the same gospel which I preach -
51:57 - 52:01today.” Hello, Billy Graham, I
thought you were a Protestant! -
52:01 - 52:08Why are you teaching Catholicism?
And please tell me, why in all -
52:08 - 52:13your campaigns, do you have a team
of 800 Catholic nuns and Jesuit -
52:13 - 52:17priests and all kinds of people
like that? And why after your -
52:17 - 52:21campaign do you channel them to the
Catholic priests to be incorporated -
52:21 - 52:28into Catholicism? Why do you do
that if you are a Protestant? -
52:28 - 52:31“The Religious News Services
reported on January 13, 1981, -
52:31 - 52:34“Pope John Paul II was closeted
for almost two hours with the -
52:34 - 52:38Rev. Billy Graham, the world’s
best-known Protestant evangelist.” -
52:38 - 52:41Religious news service, there it
is, there he is together with him, -
52:41 - 52:46“the Pope is almost an evangelist”
and here he is dressed in black, -
52:46 - 52:51and the Pope dressed
in white, talking together. -
52:51 - 52:55It was through Billy Graham’s
intervention that former President -
52:55 - 52:58Ronald Reagan set up an
ambassador to the Vatican. -
52:58 - 53:03Against the Constitution of the
United States. He has been the -
53:03 - 53:07linking agent from the White House
to Rome. Graham wrote, this is his -
53:07 - 53:10own words, speaking for himself:
“Reagan was the first American -
53:10 - 53:13President to appoint a full
ambassador to the Vatican. -
53:13 - 53:17Before he made the appointment, he
asked my view. I told him I thought -
53:17 - 53:21it would probably be a good thing –
in spite of a number of potential -
53:21 - 53:24problems concerning the separation
of church and state – and wrote an -
53:24 - 53:27extended confidential letter
outlining my reasons. -
53:27 - 53:30Among other things, I told him I
did not think it necessarily -
53:30 - 53:34violated the separation of church
and state. For whatever reasons, -
53:34 - 53:37Mr. Reagan went ahead with the plan.
Later my letter was leaked to the press. -
53:37 - 53:41It caused some consternation
among my Baptist friends.” -
53:41 - 53:45Yes, of course it would cause a
consternation, but his Baptist -
53:45 - 53:49friends might not know what he his,
because it is so well covered up in -
53:49 - 53:53the world. If you want to read more
about him, read Billy Graham and -
53:53 - 53:59His Friends, “Robert Schuller’s
1986 Possibilities magazine had -
53:59 - 54:05Templeton’s photo on the cover.
‘The lead article Templeton that -
54:05 - 54:09‘nothing exists except God’ (that’s
pantheism) and that ‘the Christ -
54:09 - 54:13spirit dwells in every human being
whether the person knows it or not’ -
54:13 - 54:17(that’s universalism).”
Templeton, now who received the -
54:17 - 54:22Templeton prize? Of course Billy
Graham, “Graham told Schuller -
54:22 - 54:25during an interview: ‘… whether they
come from the Muslim world, or -
54:25 - 54:28the Buddhist world, or the
Christian world, they are members -
54:28 - 54:31of the Body of Christ, because
they’ve been called by God.’” -
54:31 - 54:35Yes, you can be a member of the
body of Christ in any of those -
54:35 - 54:42religions if you unknowingly do
what the law requires because your -
54:42 - 54:48conscious dictates this, and God
overlooks the ignorance of those -
54:48 - 54:55who do not know. “The ignorance God
winks at” but, if you know the law -
54:55 - 54:59and you do it not, you will die, if
you don’t know the law and you -
54:59 - 55:04still break the law, you will also
die; that means eternally. -
55:04 - 55:08So Evangelicals and Catholics
join forces eventually. -
55:08 - 55:12And Pope John Paul II is decried
as the Superstar of the world. -
55:12 - 55:16“Pope deserves title of
first citizen of the world.” -
55:16 - 55:20Newsweek October 15, 1979.
He said that in ’79 already. -
55:20 - 55:26After September 11, ecumenism
received a tremendous boost. -
55:26 - 55:30All the religions stated coming
together, the Moslem’s and the -
55:30 - 55:34Protestant’s and the Catholics,
they were all praying together. -
55:34 - 55:40Death O’ Protestantism Foreseen.
By 1997, the Episcopal church, -
55:40 - 55:45with its bishop here, had the
following to say, Bishop Adler, -
55:45 - 55:49“the world of the Lord told us that
what we are witnessing is the end -
55:49 - 55:53of an era, that God is restoring
His temple and that there would be -
55:53 - 55:59a priesthood, an Episcopacy that
was an apostolic succession – a -
55:59 - 56:02main difference between
Protestant and Catholicism.” -
56:02 - 56:09Now this is this church, this is –
basically the high church of -
56:09 - 56:12England in the United States.
Bishop Adler said -
56:12 - 56:16“that after the sermon, he ‘stood
up to give a prophetic word’ but -
56:16 - 56:20fell on the floor and wept for 45
minutes.’ Then, he said, ‘We all -
56:20 - 56:24sensed what God was saying to us –
We were witnessing the end of -
56:24 - 56:30Protestantism.’” And then he said
“‘God’s church is Catholic!’ -
56:30 - 56:33he declared. ‘It was Catholic in
the beginning, and it will be -
56:33 - 56:39Catholic in the end.” “Churches
agree Pope has overall authority” -
56:39 - 56:44isn’t that interesting? The Pope
wrote this and he said in -
56:44 - 56:48his Crossing the Threshold of Hope
that by the year 2000 we will need -
56:48 - 56:55to be more united. 1999, June: They
wrote, “The Pope was recognized as -
56:55 - 56:58the overall authority
in the Christian world” -
56:58 - 57:02in the Christian world entirely!
“By an Anglican and Roman Catholic -
57:02 - 57:05commission yesterday
which described him as a -
57:05 - 57:11“gift to be received by all the
Churches”. Interesting, and then he -
57:11 - 57:14has The Gift of Authority,
“the 45-page document, The Gift of -
57:14 - 57:18Authority, has been produced by the
18-member Anglican-Roman Catholic -
57:18 - 57:21International Commission…” and it
“concluded that the Bishop of Rome -
57:21 - 57:25had a ‘specific ministry concerning
the discernment of truth’” -
57:25 - 57:31what does that mean? That he’s
infallible, so the Protestant world -
57:31 - 57:37has given up Protestantism.
“Churches ‘should hold seances’” -
57:37 - 57:43yes, who said that? This was the
Anglican Church in England, now -
57:43 - 57:46we’re ready for spiritism in the
church, the churches are really -
57:46 - 57:52falling! Falling! These are no
longer prophetic words, these are -
57:52 - 57:56false prophetic words,
these are false prophets. -
57:56 - 58:00They are preaching a lie.
And in the next lecture it will -
58:00 - 58:05become abundantly clear what is
happening – don’t miss the next -
58:05 - 58:10lecture, Strange Fire.
We’ll see some videos which will -
58:10 - 58:16be astounding. So, he said, what
this Anglican priest said is that -
58:16 - 58:21we can actually talk to the deceased,
and maybe we can reach -
58:21 - 58:25the atheists who died from the
other side, and convince them now -
58:25 - 58:30that you see there after all, you
don’t have to be an atheist anymore. -
58:30 - 58:35If that theology was true,
couldn’t God do it? -
58:35 - 58:40The Roman Catholic Controversy,
James R. White, he’s a writer who -
58:40 - 58:44says that “Today, well,
are we coming together? -
58:44 - 58:47There are many reasons
why we should stay separate” -
58:47 - 58:50he sees the problems.
The Council of Trent said, -
58:50 - 58:55“to check unbridled spirits, it
decrees that no one relying on his -
58:55 - 58:59own judgment shall, in matters of
faith and morals pertaining to the -
58:59 - 59:02edification of Christian doctrine,
distorting the Holy Scriptures in -
59:02 - 59:05accordance with his own
conceptions, presume to interpret -
59:05 - 59:09them contrary to that sense which
holy mother Church, to whom it -
59:09 - 59:13belongs to judge of their true
sense and interpretation, has held -
59:13 - 59:17and holds,” so only the church may
tell you what to believe, you’re -
59:17 - 59:21goyim, you’re too stupid to
understand it yourself. Interesting. -
59:21 - 59:26The papacy, has it changed?
No, “refinement of evil” -
59:26 - 59:31where the Pope outlines that every
single ancient doctrine held by -
59:31 - 59:36Rome will be held. Therefore can I
be part of the ecumenical movement, -
59:36 - 59:42yes or no? I cannot be, because I
cannot accept this as my spiritual -
59:42 - 59:48leader. I have one leader and his
name happens to be Jesus Christ. -
59:48 - 59:52He’s the only leader I have, and I
have one creed, and that creed -
59:52 - 59:57happens to be the Bible and the
Bible alone. That’s my creed, -
59:57 - 60:01otherwise I have no standard
whatsoever. “Keeper of the Straight -
60:01 - 60:04and Narrow” there’s Cardinal
Ratzinger, German-born Cardinal -
60:04 - 60:08Joseph Ratzinger, head of the
“Congregation for Doctrine and -
60:08 - 60:13Faith.” They make sure that every
ancient Catholic doctrine remains -
60:13 - 60:19and that no Protestant even
recognizes it, they’re so sneaky. -
60:19 - 60:26Here is Cardinal Küng, and these
people Hans Küng, all they want to -
60:26 - 60:31do is bring about ecumenism.
So they make lots of Protestant -
60:31 - 60:35noises, didn’t the Jesuits say that
“if you want to win someone, make -
60:35 - 60:40his noises,” yes or no?
Yes, don’t trust them one little bit. -
60:40 - 60:46By 1986 we had the Council of
Assisi and all the religions of the -
60:46 - 60:51world were present. That included
Islam, Hinduism, all these -
60:51 - 60:56religions; they all came together
at Assisi, there’s the Pope, there -
60:56 - 61:01are the patriarchs, there’s Runcy,
there’s the Dalai Lama, Hinduism, -
61:01 - 61:08Buddhism, every single thing was
present, where? At Assisi. -
61:08 - 61:12Do you know what’s interesting?
After the Council of Assisi there -
61:12 - 61:18came an earthquake, and
the whole Cathedral collapsed, -
61:18 - 61:25it’s almost like God said “gyt bmph”
guess what they did, they -
61:25 - 61:31instantly rebuilt it to its former
glory; instantly, immediately it -
61:31 - 61:39stands as an icon to Assisi, and
that this Assisi meeting in ’86, -
61:39 - 61:44the first rot started of accepting
the papacy as the ultimate. -
61:44 - 61:49By 1999 this is what happened,
United Nations of Faith moved -
61:49 - 61:52Mountains. Article appeared in a
Belgian national newspaper “Le Soir”, -
61:52 - 61:56dated 30th August 2000.
“A general rehearsal is taking -
61:56 - 62:00place at the highest level, in a
forum where the Supreme Being, -
62:00 - 62:03grand architect, - that’s Masonic
language - or watchmaker of the -
62:03 - 62:07universe, if he exists at all –
they’re derogatory – is to -
62:07 - 62:10recognize his own…” at a time when
the United Nations will shortly -
62:10 - 62:14host the summit of the millennium,
with the presence of the heads of -
62:14 - 62:20state of the entire world, all the
world’s religious leaders have been -
62:20 - 62:23gathering in New York”
how much of the world’s religious -
62:23 - 62:29leaders? All “to discuss the most
important theme of world peace and -
62:29 - 62:35tolerance.” “The more distant
object: to create a kind of United -
62:35 - 62:38Nations of Faith”.
“Where the representatives of faith -
62:38 - 62:41and philosophies could meet
and in order to discuss the future -
62:41 - 62:47together, whilst abandoning their
fatwas, theses, and other terrible -
62:47 - 62:51arms of excommunication and
exclusion and relegating them to -
62:51 - 62:56the cloak room.” Let’s get away
from our separateness, let’s come -
62:56 - 63:01together. “This is a very noble
‘ecumenical initiative’,” -
63:01 - 63:07sponsored by whom? “Ted Turner,”
A 33 degree Freemason, who hates -
63:07 - 63:10Christianity, who funded the
initiative. He is vice-president of -
63:10 - 63:14Time Warner, founder of CNN. And
“for every sin there is grace: ten -
63:14 - 63:18years ago, the flamboyant boss
of instantaneous television -
63:18 - 63:21had declared that Christianity was
nothing but an affair for ‘losers -
63:21 - 63:25and freaks’…” Ok, so he still
believes it, now why would Ted -
63:25 - 63:30Turner finance something like that?
Because he says Jane Fonda, his -
63:30 - 63:34wife turned Christian, and that
changed his mind? I don’t think so. -
63:34 - 63:38I think it’s because he’s a 33
degree Freemason, and they have an -
63:38 - 63:44agenda. Well, “2000 representatives
of very well, or less known -
63:44 - 63:48religions, the ones which are
practiced the world over, or which -
63:48 - 63:51are almost an affair of confidence,
only known in the corridors of the -
63:51 - 63:56UN, or the spiffing Waldorf Astoria
hotel, which will be used for the -
63:56 - 64:00subsequent meetings and work.
The pope sent the African cardinal -
64:00 - 64:05Francis Arzine, president of the
pontifical council for interfaith -
64:05 - 64:10dialogue, representing the Jewish
faith was the Chief Rabbi Lau of -
64:10 - 64:13Jerusalem, the Buddhists were
deprived of the presence of the -
64:13 - 64:16Dalai Lama. This shows that
religion is never far removed from -
64:16 - 64:19politics: China threatened to
boycott the meeting if he went.” -
64:19 - 64:21That’s just a game they’re playing.
-
64:21 - 64:25Well, the initiative,
“Bishop Desmond Tutu” -
64:25 - 64:29said, let’s go ahead with it, and
“in the US and in particular in -
64:29 - 64:33circles of the UN, the “first”
initiative has been very welcomed. -
64:33 - 64:39Nevertheless, one needs to
render to Caesar, or rather to -
64:39 - 64:44John-Paul II, his dues. It is indeed
thanks to him that the way of -
64:44 - 64:48reconciliation was
started at Assisi in 1985.” -
64:48 - 64:55Culminating in that meeting in 1986.
Well the Pope then May 2001 -
64:55 - 65:00visited the famous Mosque in
Damascus, “John Paul II made -
65:00 - 65:03history on Sunday by becoming
the first Pontiff ever to enter a -
65:03 - 65:08mosque, and urged Christians and
Muslims to forgive each other.” -
65:08 - 65:10That’s the mosque,
remember I showed it to you; -
65:10 - 65:18the famous mosque in Damascus,
and we walked through it. -
65:18 - 65:27And, we look at this amazing
structure with these people having -
65:27 - 65:32the same rituals as in Roman
Catholicism, and you will remember -
65:32 - 65:36that we spoke about the head of
John the Baptist that is stored in -
65:36 - 65:40this mosque. So it’s significant
that the Pope went to that -
65:40 - 65:45particular mosque to go
and seek reconciliation. -
65:45 - 65:49Although reconciliation is just a
word for the goyim, the outside; -
65:49 - 65:55the inside has always been
reconciled. And we know already -
65:55 - 65:59that the pope then kissed the Koran.
So the initiative is to bring all -
65:59 - 66:04the religions, this is a symbol of
the religions dancing together, a -
66:04 - 66:09symbol of Judaism, and Buddhism,
and Christianity, and Hinduism and -
66:09 - 66:14all of them coming together in a
one great big happy family. -
66:14 - 66:18This is the title page of Rotarian
Bishop Lehman’s document for -
66:18 - 66:23“World Peace Day” and the emblem of
the “World Conference of Religions.” -
66:23 - 66:28Hinduism, Buddhism, and
finally we have a parliament -
66:28 - 66:33of world religions; now this
parliament of world religions is an -
66:33 - 66:40outcome of the Assisi meeting,
and this was their Africa day; -
66:40 - 66:43they have the sun symbol in the
middle, there are interesting -
66:43 - 66:48symbols in this. So at this
interfaith meeting in 1999, -
66:48 - 66:52“as reported the Associated Press,
with the Dalai Lama, sitting by his -
66:52 - 66:57right side, this October [1999]”
there was another meeting -
66:57 - 67:01“in Rome the Pope presided at
a special council of some 2000 -
67:01 - 67:06religious leaders of various
faiths, sects, and cults.” -
67:06 - 67:10Now I’m going to show you a video of
that in a moment of what happened there. -
67:10 - 67:13“The Pontiff told the assembled
Buddhist monks, Zoroastrian -
67:13 - 67:18priests, Catholic cardinals, Hindu
gurus, American Indian shamen, -
67:18 - 67:22Jewish rabbis, and ecumenical
clergy” that’s all the Protestants -
67:22 - 67:28that there are, “that all must join
in condemning” who? -
67:28 - 67:33“The Christian fundamentalists”
wow, I thought the problems were -
67:33 - 67:38elsewhere, but he obviously has an
inside tact so he knows who the -
67:38 - 67:43real problem people are.
It’s the Christian fundamentalists, why? -
67:43 - 67:48Because they commit the ultimate
crime of telling people about who? -
67:48 - 67:50Jesus.
-
67:50 - 67:53Don’t you think there’s a total
onslaught on Jesus Christ? -
67:53 - 67:55I believe there is.
-
67:55 - 68:00“Christian fundamentalists who
‘abuse speech’ and whose efforts at -
68:00 - 68:04converting others ‘incite
hatred and violence.’” -
68:04 - 68:10Didn’t Miss Kyung say the
same thing, yes or no? -
68:10 - 68:14She said the same thing at the
World Council of Churches. -
68:14 - 68:18So we want unity, but please let
this unity be on a universal -
68:18 - 68:26Christ, just leave Jesus out of this.
This is an attack on Jesus Christ. -
68:26 - 68:31“All present were in accord
on two key points: (1) Pope John -
68:31 - 68:37Paul II was endorsed by consensus
as the planet’s chief spiritual -
68:37 - 68:43guide and overseer;” that’s
interesting. “And (2) Religious -
68:43 - 68:46fundamentalists who refuse to go
along with the global ecumenical -
68:46 - 68:54movement” that would include me
for example, “are to be silenced.” -
68:54 - 68:57So who knows how many times
you can still hear this message, -
68:57 - 69:01“they must be denounced as
‘dangerous extremists full of hate.’” -
69:01 - 69:03(True bible believers denounced
at Papal Conference. -
69:03 - 69:04Power of Prophecy (March 2000, Vol.
2000-03, p. 3). -
69:04 - 69:07That’s why we have hate laws,
you’re not supposed to preach this -
69:07 - 69:11message, you’re not supposed to
preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, -
69:11 - 69:16then you are a dangerous extremist
full of hate. Well I figured I better -
69:16 - 69:20preach it before we
can no longer preach it. -
69:20 - 69:23And that’s why I’m here to tell
you about these things. -
69:23 - 69:26The onslaught is not against me,
the onslaught is against the Lord. -
69:26 - 69:29And he predicted that
this was going to happen. -
69:29 - 69:32Well let’s have a look at this
Masonic meeting, you will see three -
69:32 - 69:37candles in this meeting, that’s
Masonic. They light the solar -
69:37 - 69:41candles, which are little covered
candles, which are used in Hinduism -
69:41 - 69:44for example as solar candles, and
in Buddhism and in Eastern -
69:44 - 69:50mysticism. And you will see that
they use all kinds of music, just -
69:50 - 69:55like the Bible said. In fact the
main rock band of Italy gave the -
69:55 - 69:59background music at the ceremony on
the one stage with the papacy on -
69:59 - 70:03the other stage. And ever religious
leader of note in the world was -
70:03 - 70:08there of every religion to bow down
and give homage to the pope. -
70:08 - 70:11Interesting, let’s watch it.
-
71:35 - 71:38He looks so smug doesn’t he?
-
71:38 - 71:44Well here they all are, Islam,
Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintuism, -
71:44 - 71:47Soca Gaya, all of them,
Protestantism, all of them bowing -
71:47 - 71:51down acknowledging the pope.
Now didn’t the Bible say that the -
71:51 - 71:56whole world would wonder after him,
yes or no? And that she would not -
71:56 - 71:59suffer loss of children,
didn’t the Bible say that? -
71:59 - 72:04Judaism was there, all
the religions were there. -
72:04 - 72:11Now this means that we are very
very close to the close of time. -
72:11 - 72:13This is an interesting picture
that was published once by Der -
72:13 - 72:21Spiegel, Der Spiegel, and here you
have a statue of Caesar showing a -
72:21 - 72:25finger; that’s actually a Masonic thing,
but never mind there he does it. -
72:25 - 72:30Then you have Mussolini on the
other side giving the finger. -
72:30 - 72:34And then they have Rom here,
“Der Papst, Die Kirche Und Die -
72:34 - 72:39Sunde” the Pope, the Church, and
the Sin, and they have the Pope -
72:39 - 72:44over there in full sun worship
regalia; and then they have the -
72:44 - 72:48prostitute. It’s almost like they
know something right? -
72:48 - 72:54This prostitute, the Bible says,
is the woman that rides the beast, -
72:54 - 73:00the great prostituted that is over
the nations; and all the kings of -
73:00 - 73:05the world give their power unto the
beast. We’ve seen that the ruling -
73:05 - 73:10powers in the world actually come
from very few families today, -
73:10 - 73:15highly occult families. “And the
woman which thou sawest is -
73:15 - 73:19that great city, which reigneth
over the kings of the earth.” -
73:19 - 73:24Revelation 17:18. “And I heard
another voice from heaven, saying, -
73:24 - 73:29Come out of her, my people that ye
be not partakers of her sins, and -
73:29 - 73:34that ye receive not of her plagues.”
Revelations 18:4. -
73:34 - 73:39What do you think they have
planned for those who harbor a -
73:39 - 73:43spirit of separateness?
What do you think they have -
73:43 - 73:47planned for those who say,
who say, like the Bible says: -
73:47 - 73:53“Come out and be separate
that you receive not her plagues,” -
73:53 - 73:58so that you don’t take part in her
sins. What do you think will be -
73:58 - 74:03their conclusion about such a
matter? I think this is a very very -
74:03 - 74:08serious issue, and we’re going to
have lectures on this when we get -
74:08 - 74:13there. We’ll see what their final
plans are, and who they actually -
74:13 - 74:21pinpoint as opposition, that would
be interesting, don’t you think? -
74:21 - 74:25We’ll let them speak for themselves,
in the meantime as for -
74:25 - 74:32me and my house, I cannot join this
ecumenical council, and I would -
74:32 - 74:37like to uplift Jesus Christ to you
tonight as the only Savior on this -
74:37 - 74:44world and follow the biblical
way and none will be lost. -
74:44 - 74:49That is his promise, why not
take him at his word? Amen.
- Title:
- 224 - That All May Be One / Total Onslaught - Walter Veith
- Description:
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http://amazingdiscoveries.tv/media/137/224-that-all-may-be-one/
http://amazingdiscoveries.org/
In an age of religious tolerance and ecumenism, old hatchets are being buried. Churches are reuniting that have long been separated on questions of doctrine. Are these developments based on Scriptures conformity or humanitarian principles? Is truth sacrificed for the sake of unity? Are we moving to an era of peace the Bible warns against? This lecture also looks at the philosophies of some prominent preachers, such as Robert Schuller, Billy Graham, and others. Who leads this ecumenical movement and what is its goal? - Video Language:
- English, British
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