[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.65,0:01:02.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That All May Be One Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.68,0:01:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The title of this lecture is\NThat All May Be One, Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.38,0:01:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we have dealt in the last few\Nlectures with the political aspects, Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.65,0:01:17.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tonight I want to start\Nwith the religious aspects. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.78,0:01:23.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Vatican II meetings,\NVatican II, the Pope is beeing Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.78,0:01:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,carried in during that meeting,\Nand at that meeting it was Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.55,0:01:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,decided that the churches,\Nthe Protestant churches, Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.75,0:01:40.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,may remain in their confessions and\Nobtain salvation, provided of course, Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.28,0:01:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that they accept and acknowledge\Nthe supremacy of the Bishop of Rome. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.58,0:01:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now after Vatican II, it was Karl\NRahner, the Jesuit, strange how Dialogue: 0,0:01:52.28,0:01:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they keep popping up, I know I’m\Nsaying this frequently, but it’s Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.42,0:02:01.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just a fact. He was the one who was\Ncommissioned to take this message Dialogue: 0,0:02:01.12,0:02:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the world that everyone could\Nremain in their confession, Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.22,0:02:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,provided they acknowledge the\Nsupremacy of the Bishop of Rome. Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.88,0:02:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I’ve already dealt with this,\Nbut I’m going to go into a little Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.22,0:02:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit more detail now, Paul Knitter,\Nwho was held a position at Xavier Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.55,0:02:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,University, Cincinnati, where he is\NProfessor of Theology, he studied Dialogue: 0,0:02:25.08,0:02:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,under Karl Rahner, and he wrote\Nthis book, “No Other name?” Dialogue: 0,0:02:30.05,0:02:35.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this book, “No Other Name?”\Nhe writes certain interesting Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.65,0:02:40.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,things, here’s a commentary on it,\Nit’s interesting that they have a Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.55,0:02:47.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this little humanist man over there\Non the book, tells us its humanism. Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.42,0:02:50.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He writes, “Faces the conundrum of\Nwhat the committed Christian Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.85,0:02:55.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believer does theologically in face\Nof the growing evidence, scholarly Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.25,0:02:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and from personal encounter, that\Nthere are other ways, religious Dialogue: 0,0:02:58.32,0:03:04.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ways, of leading a full, authentic\Nhuman life, than the Christian way.” Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.25,0:03:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you beginning to see something?\N“Can a person be saved,” Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.75,0:03:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,definition, “that is, come to live\Na truly human life, by some other Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.55,0:03:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name than that of Jesus Christ?”\NHello, let me just recap there, to Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.95,0:03:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be saved means to live a truly\Nhuman life, is that correct Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.65,0:03:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theology? This is a professor of\Ntheology, and this book is Dialogue: 0,0:03:29.68,0:03:32.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,virtually prescribed in all\Nseminaries of theology in the Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.65,0:03:38.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entire world. “Knitter’s answer is\None can be ‘saved’ by ‘some other Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.05,0:03:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,name,’ and then he proceeds to show\Nhow this affirmation can be squared Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.18,0:03:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theologically with a full Christian\Ncommitment. This is first-rate Dialogue: 0,0:03:49.02,0:03:53.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,creative theology” that’s the\Nonly sentence I agree with. Dialogue: 0,0:03:53.45,0:04:00.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is creative theology, but it’s\Ndefinitely not biblical theology. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.08,0:04:04.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, at the second ecumenical\Ncouncil, if the Bible isn’t going Dialogue: 0,0:04:04.42,0:04:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be the norm, we’ll have to\Nreplace it with something else. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.15,0:04:15.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was decided in document 515\N– of page 515 of the ecumenical Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.05,0:04:18.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,documents that were written at\NVatican II documents. Dialogue: 0,0:04:18.98,0:04:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Unity of all Christians may at\Nlast be restored and shine forth, Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.18,0:04:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for all peoples are called to be a\Nsingle new people, confessing one Dialogue: 0,0:04:26.28,0:04:29.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus, Savior and Lord, professing\None faith, celebrating one Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.52,0:04:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eucharistic mystery.” There are\Nlots of problems with there in this Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.98,0:04:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular one, particularly the\NEucharistic mystery. Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.65,0:04:40.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“All Christians should be of an\Necumenical mind,” Dialogue: 0,0:04:40.38,0:04:46.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Documents of Vatican II. P. 515.\NThe Catholic Catechism will tell us Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.12,0:04:51.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that Vatican II did not change\Nthe doctrines; it only appeared to Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.72,0:04:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,change the doctrines. This is the\Npresent Catechism of the Catholic Dialogue: 0,0:04:55.58,0:04:59.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Church, article 816,\N“The sole Church of Christ which Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.32,0:05:03.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our Savior, after his Resurrection,\Nentrusted to Peter’s pastoral care, Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.05,0:05:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commissioning him and the other\Napostles to extend and rule it… Dialogue: 0,0:05:05.65,0:05:08.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This Church, constituted and\Norganized as a society in the Dialogue: 0,0:05:08.78,0:05:13.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present world, subsists in the\NCatholic Church… The Second Vatican Dialogue: 0,0:05:13.95,0:05:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Council’s Decree on Ecumenism\Nexplains: “For it is through Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.72,0:05:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ’s Catholic Church alone,\Nwhich is the universal help towards Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.18,0:05:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salvation, that the fullness of the\Nmeans of salvation can be obtained.” Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.08,0:05:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s been no change in doctrine,\Nonly Protestants believe that there Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.28,0:05:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has been a change of doctrine.\NWounds to unity, article 817, Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.88,0:05:41.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Where there are sins, there\Nare also divisions, schisms, heresies,” Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.68,0:05:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so if there was a division, then it\Nwas sin, so who’s the sinner? Dialogue: 0,0:05:48.18,0:05:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The one who separated.\NTowards unity, Dialogue: 0,0:05:53.18,0:05:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Christ bestowed unity on his\NChurch from the beginning” Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.98,0:06:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and this is something the church\Ncan never lose, 820. Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.22,0:06:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It didn’t change. It still governs\N– rules the church through its Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.58,0:06:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Supreme Pontiffs and Bishops,\Neverybody will have to acknowledge Dialogue: 0,0:06:12.22,0:06:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this. This is why\NPriest J. Cornell says, Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.32,0:06:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The final object of ecumenism, as\NCatholics conceive it, is unity in Dialogue: 0,0:06:19.18,0:06:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Faith, worship, and the\Nacknowledgement of supreme Dialogue: 0,0:06:21.42,0:06:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spiritual authority of the Bishop\Nof Rome.” That’s the bottom line. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.72,0:06:30.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The Church’s bond with\Nnon-Christian religions” – Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.22,0:06:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“all nations form but one community.\N” They want the same relations with Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.82,0:06:39.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Moslems, with all the other\Nreligions. Let’s make sure that Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.72,0:06:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is true, this was the\NCatechism, it can’t be wrong; Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.58,0:06:45.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Further Questions Answered,\NBonaventure Hinwood OFM, Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.55,0:06:48.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Vatican II teaches in several\Nplaces that the Catholic Church, Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.92,0:06:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it alone, is the Church\Nfounded by Jesus Christ” no change Dialogue: 0,0:06:54.15,0:06:59.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Vatican II documentation.\NThen September 5, 2000, Dialogue: 0,0:06:59.15,0:07:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Vatican made this quite clear,\Nthe church’s examined the Dialogue: 0,0:07:02.85,0:07:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vatican statement, 36 page\Nstatement said other Christians Dialogue: 0,0:07:06.45,0:07:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,communities, such as\NAnglicans or other Protestants, Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.15,0:07:14.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“are not churches in the proper\Nsense.” Canon David Oliver, Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.35,0:07:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minister of St. Thomas’s Anglican\NChurch, says, oh well, it’s oh, Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.38,0:07:22.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s ok, whatever. “Other Churches\Nare no sisters of ours, the Vatican Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.92,0:07:24.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insists” September 5, 2000\N“The Independent.” Dialogue: 0,0:07:24.42,0:07:26.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And remember that Ratzinger said\N[Walter Veith said, Karl Rahner said] Dialogue: 0,0:07:26.25,0:07:28.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“It must be always clear\Nthat the one, holy, catholic Dialogue: 0,0:07:28.48,0:07:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and apostolic universal church is\Nnot the sister, but the mother of Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.22,0:07:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the churches.” So that’s the\Nlatest statement, definitive Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.48,0:07:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statement, from the highest sources\Nin the Vatican, Vatican II changed Dialogue: 0,0:07:39.02,0:07:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing. These are some of the\Ncomments of the other churches, Dialogue: 0,0:07:43.05,0:07:46.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“church’s are stunned by Pope’s\Nattack, Protestant churches express Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.82,0:07:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,disappointment, etc.” Nothing\Nchanged, they were still in the Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.78,0:07:55.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecumenical movement. The Washington\NPost said, “A new Vatican dictum Dialogue: 0,0:07:55.88,0:07:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,issued today declares that\Nindividuals can attain full Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.78,0:08:04.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salvation from earthly sin only\Nthrough the spiritual grace of the Dialogue: 0,0:08:04.15,0:08:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catholic Church and that other\Nfaiths – including Protestant Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.12,0:08:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christian ones -- have defects that\Nplace their followers in a ‘gravely Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.48,0:08:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deficient situation’.”\NAnd that includes Moslems, Dialogue: 0,0:08:16.82,0:08:21.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hindu’s, Jews, everyone;\Nthey have to accept Catholicism as Dialogue: 0,0:08:21.78,0:08:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leader, that’s what the Vatican\Nteaches. Now how are you going to Dialogue: 0,0:08:25.28,0:08:30.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this if the Bible so clearly\Ncondemned Catholicism? Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.12,0:08:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well Vatican II and the Sunday,\Nagain the documents, Vatican II, Dialogue: 0,0:08:34.28,0:08:38.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Any endeavor that seeks to make\NSunday a genuine ‘day of joy and Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.42,0:08:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rest from work’ should be encouraged.”\NDocuments of Vatican II. Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.82,0:08:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We must celebrate the\N“Paschal Mystery” it must be the Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.25,0:08:47.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“primordial feast” day.\NThere must be freedom from work, Dialogue: 0,0:08:47.68,0:08:52.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“shall not have precedence over\NSunday,” all feasts are important. Dialogue: 0,0:08:52.55,0:08:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then it says “the supreme\Nmanifestation of this is the Sunday Dialogue: 0,0:08:56.25,0:09:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,assembly.” So again, Vatican II\Nreiterated that Sunday was the day Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.42,0:09:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was to be kept. And they\Ncall it the Lord’s day, and in their Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.25,0:09:10.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catechism, article 2174, they admit\Nthat “we all gather on the day of Dialogue: 0,0:09:10.75,0:09:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sun, for it is the first day\N[after the Jewish Sabbath]” Dialogue: 0,0:09:16.15,0:09:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there’s no such thing as a Jewish\NSabbath! The Sabbath was instituted Dialogue: 0,0:09:19.98,0:09:26.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Eden long before there was a Jew.\NNow, Sunday “in Christ’s Passover, Dialogue: 0,0:09:26.98,0:09:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth\Nof the Jewish Sabbath and announces Dialogue: 0,0:09:30.35,0:09:33.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,man’s eternal rest in God.”\NAnd it comes from “tradition” Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.52,0:09:37.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this all stands in their catechism,\NI’m not going to go into the detail. Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.72,0:09:40.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now if you’re not going\Nto have the Bible as basis, Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.52,0:09:44.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you better give the people\Nsomething else. “Music celebrations” Dialogue: 0,0:09:44.68,0:09:48.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is page 83, Vatican\Ndocuments, “actively participate Dialogue: 0,0:09:48.78,0:09:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more willingly… format of the\Ncelebration and the degree of Dialogue: 0,0:09:52.92,0:09:56.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,participation in it should be\Nvaries as much as possible.” Dialogue: 0,0:09:56.62,0:10:00.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The liturgy,” now the liturgy is\Neverything that happens in the Dialogue: 0,0:10:00.12,0:10:04.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,church beside the sermon,\N“marvelously increases their Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.55,0:10:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(church members) power to preach\NChrist” so now let’s put more Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.55,0:10:13.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emphasis on the liturgy, and\Nless emphasis on the what? Dialogue: 0,0:10:13.82,0:10:15.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The preaching. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.65,0:10:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they even call it in some\Ndocuments the “holy liturgy”. Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.45,0:10:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“A sign lifted up among nation”\Nand to gather the children that Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.78,0:10:27.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are “scattered until there\Nis one fold, one shepherd.” Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.72,0:10:31.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course that has to be the Pope.\NHow are we going to do this? Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.45,0:10:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Vatican II, their documentation,\NDocuments of Vatican II, quote Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.68,0:10:39.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“In all popular devotions\Nthe psalms will be especially Dialogue: 0,0:10:39.52,0:10:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,useful, and also works of sacred\Nmusic drawn from both the old and Dialogue: 0,0:10:43.38,0:10:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more recent heritage of sacred\Nmusic, popular religious songs, Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.32,0:10:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,organ, other instruments\Ncharacteristic of a particular Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.95,0:10:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people.” (p. 91). “The\Nparticipation in the Celebration Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.52,0:10:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should be internal, but\N“Must be, on the other hand, Dialogue: 0,0:10:55.65,0:11:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,external also… internal\Nparticipation by gestures and Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.22,0:11:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bodily attitudes, by the\Nacclamations, responses and singing. Dialogue: 0,0:11:05.78,0:11:11.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,” In other words, Vatican II says,\N“let’s make the service lively, Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.32,0:11:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let’s start moving, let’s have some\Nbodily attitudes, let’s shake the Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.45,0:11:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arms,” you know; then it’s not so\Nimportant whether you have your Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.18,0:11:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bible, in fact it’s hard to hold\Nyour Bible if your arms are Dialogue: 0,0:11:22.42,0:11:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,swinging around like cartwheels.\NHow must the songs be? Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.08,0:11:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let’s go again to the Catechism.\NArticle 1157, Dialogue: 0,0:11:30.85,0:11:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Song and music fulfill their\Nfunction as signs in a manner all Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.62,0:11:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more significant” that’s fine,\Nthere’s nothing wrong with singing, Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.38,0:11:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,singing must be beautiful\Nand to the glory of God. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.38,0:11:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they say that music must\Nbe emotional, quote, Vatican Dialogue: 0,0:11:44.38,0:11:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catechism, “How I wept, deeply\Nmoved by your hymns, songs and the Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.12,0:11:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,voices that echoed through your\NChurch! What emotion I experienced Dialogue: 0,0:11:52.58,0:11:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in them! Those sounds flowed into\Nmy ears, distilling the truth in my Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.18,0:11:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heart. A feeling of devotion surged\Nwithin me, and tears streamed down Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.52,0:12:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my face – tears that did me good.”\NSo the more tears and the more Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.52,0:12:08.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emotion, the better; switch the\Nmind off and switch on something Dialogue: 0,0:12:08.05,0:12:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,else. And so the papacy started\Nusing pop groups, and the pope Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.92,0:12:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started singing to ‘Abba’ music,\Nand all this sort of stuff started Dialogue: 0,0:12:17.18,0:12:20.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming into the churches,\Nwhich was unknown before. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.28,0:12:23.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Pope’s personal little\Nrock band that goes with him Dialogue: 0,0:12:23.55,0:12:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes when he travels.\NThese days they have advanced to Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.12,0:12:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the more metal groups and all of\Nthose, and by 1967 the faculty and Dialogue: 0,0:12:35.52,0:12:41.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,students of the Catholic Duquesme\NUniversity started become Dialogue: 0,0:12:41.05,0:12:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charismatic. By 1968 the World\NCouncil of Churches had Catholics Dialogue: 0,0:12:49.35,0:12:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as observers, by 1975 there\Nwere observers in Nairobi. Dialogue: 0,0:12:54.05,0:13:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By 1975, a mass gathering took\Nplace at Rome, and Pope Paul the II Dialogue: 0,0:13:01.28,0:13:06.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,actually started speaking in\Ntongues. Here it is, Christianity Dialogue: 0,0:13:06.12,0:13:10.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, June 6, 1975,\N“Bishops, archbishops and Dialogue: 0,0:13:10.05,0:13:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cardinals, struggling to kept heir\Nhats in place, sang and danced in Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.52,0:13:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecstasy, embracing one another\Nraising their arm to heaven – and Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.02,0:13:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pope Paul VI address was\Npunctuated with ecstatic.” Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.45,0:13:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he started speaking in tongues,\Ngreat example for the church. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.88,0:13:35.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Lutheran Church by 1974, the\NU. S. Lutheran – Roman Catholic Dialog Dialogue: 0,0:13:35.22,0:13:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,published its: Papal Primacy and\Nthe Universal Church, they were Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.05,0:13:43.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beginning to play with the idea\Nthat Rome would again be the head Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.05,0:13:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the churches. The Presbyterians,\NCongregationalists, Methodists, Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.22,0:13:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,followed; Colin Buchanin writes\Nthat “The emergence of the church Dialogue: 0,0:13:50.42,0:13:53.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Rome as a partner in ecumenical\Ndiscussions, and the impact of the Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.38,0:13:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charismatic movement, has totally\Nchanged ecumenical relationships.” Dialogue: 0,0:13:57.88,0:14:03.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this new spirit makes the talk\Nbetween the various opposing Dialogue: 0,0:14:03.28,0:14:08.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,factions more and more possible.\NBy 1975 there was a common Dialogue: 0,0:14:08.65,0:14:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catechism where the moral\Ndirectives and the decalogue were Dialogue: 0,0:14:12.92,0:14:17.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,questioned, where many passages in\Nthe New Testament were put in the Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.02,0:14:21.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mouth of Jesus, things that the\Nhistorical Jesus never uttered. Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.58,0:14:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The physical resurrection is a\Nproblem full of difficulties, etc. Dialogue: 0,0:14:26.38,0:14:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,etc, starting to question the\NBible. By 1977, there was a joint Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.32,0:14:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Roman Catholic commission which\Nissued, together with the Anglican Dialogue: 0,0:14:36.32,0:14:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Church, this statement:\N“It seems appropriate that in any Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.32,0:14:43.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,future union a universal primacy\Nsuch as has been described should Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.02,0:14:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be held by the Roman See.”\NSo the Anglican Church said, Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.98,0:14:51.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Ok, Pope shall be head.”\NBy 1989 the Anglican Archbishop of Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.35,0:14:55.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canterbury, the Revered Robert\NRuncy went to Rome and urged Dialogue: 0,0:14:55.55,0:14:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christians to consider the primacy\Nof the Pope. Better together. Dialogue: 0,0:14:59.78,0:15:05.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There they are, and then came the\Nfamous signing of the document Dialogue: 0,0:15:05.38,0:15:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where they actually signed, there\Nis signing, the Pope and Runcy Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.58,0:15:12.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signed the declaration at Canterbury,\Nand the Pope is now the Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.75,0:15:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,head of these churches.\NAnd some nice Masonic signals, Dialogue: 0,0:15:17.45,0:15:22.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, they’re going to be\Ntogether, and the queen, well; Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.28,0:15:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she and her entourage visit the\NPope and say, well, what did Prince Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.98,0:15:34.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Charles say? “I do not want to\Nlonger by the protector of the Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.88,0:15:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faith, but just protector of faith.”\NSo Protestantism goes, and of Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.08,0:15:46.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,course much marching in the\Nstreets of the United Kingdom. Dialogue: 0,0:15:46.72,0:15:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next Archbishop of Canterbury\Nis Carey, and Carey is remarkable Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.52,0:15:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of his charismatic\Nrenewal, and speaking in tongues. Dialogue: 0,0:15:58.38,0:16:02.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the Anglican church the\Nfirst to go Romward bound. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.65,0:16:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now this is the famous St. Paul’s\NCathedral, there it is, a London bus, Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.82,0:16:12.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I photographed this myself,\Nand this is a stunning picture, Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.68,0:16:17.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what do you see?\NWhat does it look like? Dialogue: 0,0:16:17.65,0:16:22.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks like a miniature of the\NVatican, yes, in fact it is a Dialogue: 0,0:16:22.45,0:16:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,replica of the Vatican; and\Nthe very amazing thing is that Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.78,0:16:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,St. Paul’s Cathedral never looked\Nlike that. Never looked like that, Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.18,0:16:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact it used to look like that;\Nbut now it has been totally Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.55,0:16:42.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rebuilt, and it now looks like that.\NDoesn’t this sound remarkably like Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.58,0:16:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an image of the beast?\NAnd image of the beast? Dialogue: 0,0:16:46.42,0:16:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well let’s go inside.\NYou have to be very sneaky with Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.85,0:16:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your camera when you go in there.\NAnd, this is what it looks like Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.35,0:16:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now, there’s the min altar;\Nwow, the main altar is an exact Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.18,0:17:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,copy of Bernini’s canopy in Rome. Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.85,0:17:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means the Protestant\Nchurch here has copied Rome. Dialogue: 0,0:17:06.38,0:17:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very interesting, there are the\Nblack and white squares, they have Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.48,0:17:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cupids with other angelic beings.\NMale-females, etc. Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.12,0:17:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and if you look at the ceiling and\Nyou photograph the top, you will Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.75,0:17:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find beautiful Masonic symbols.\NThis is Masonry, this is not Dialogue: 0,0:17:24.22,0:17:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Church of England, so the Church of\NEngland has capitulated and has Dialogue: 0,0:17:27.98,0:17:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become part of Masonry, and\Ntherefore we could say Luciferian, Dialogue: 0,0:17:33.38,0:17:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sad but true. Well in front of the\Nmain altar there you have the Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.02,0:17:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,typical solar symbols.\NLooking from the top, it’s like a Dialogue: 0,0:17:42.08,0:17:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,witch’s cove, it’s been\Nrestructured; this is occultism. Dialogue: 0,0:17:46.35,0:17:51.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact it even has the black and\Nwhite pentagram on the floor. Dialogue: 0,0:17:51.32,0:17:55.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And on the floor it has the symbol\Nof the serpent with the tail in the Dialogue: 0,0:17:55.28,0:17:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mouth representing the sun and the\Nmoon, by the way those are my Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.75,0:18:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shoes, they were nice and clean.\NAnd the solar deities on the Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.78,0:18:08.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,floor, so this is nothing other\Nthan Catholicism, here are symbols Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.92,0:18:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of New Age, these are the\Npeacocks, symbols of Lucifer. Dialogue: 0,0:18:13.92,0:18:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The triangles in the circle, the\Nhexagrams, and of course the Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.22,0:18:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,corpses under the altar, and IHS on\Ntheir – and sun blazes on their Dialogue: 0,0:18:26.72,0:18:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,utilities, also the mythical\Npelican or the bird feeding its Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.75,0:18:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young to its flesh;\Nthese are occult symbols. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.35,0:18:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No wonder Pope John Paul II could\Nwrite in Crossing the Threshold of Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.45,0:18:46.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hope, that by the year 2000,\N“we need to be more united.” Dialogue: 0,0:18:46.75,0:18:50.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“For unity, all churches must\Naccept papal authority.” Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.95,0:18:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Pope said in 1995.\NThat’s the condition of unity. Dialogue: 0,0:18:56.85,0:19:01.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now why did the Reformation split\Nfrom Rome? Surely the Reformation Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.95,0:19:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had good reasons, biblical reason;\NRevelation 13:8 said, Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.45,0:19:09.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“And all that dwell upon the earth\Nshall worship him, whose names are Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.82,0:19:14.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not written in the book of life of\Nthe Lamb slain from the foundation Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.85,0:19:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the world.” Well, they have\Nsurely corrupted that one in the Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.75,0:19:23.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,modern translations, but never\Nmind that’s what it says; Dialogue: 0,0:19:23.25,0:19:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they shall not be written in the\Nbook of life if they worship this Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.25,0:19:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,system by obeying it. Here is the\NDom zu Berlin, this is the Lutheran Dialogue: 0,0:19:34.48,0:19:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mother church if you like in\NGermany, and there they have huge Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.55,0:19:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pictures of Mary with candles\Nburning in front of it, there you Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.25,0:19:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have it, this is back to Rome, and\Nthe Weltbild published the picture Dialogue: 0,0:19:49.05,0:19:55.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Martin Luther shaking hands with\Nthe Pope. Well in the 1980s, the Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.95,0:20:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pope went to Mainz Germany, and he\Nsaid “ecumenism is an urgent task.” Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.88,0:20:05.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then “Christians forging\Naccords for new era… Churches have Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.25,0:20:10.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a pact” and then the famous synod\Nin the German, the Lutheran synod: Dialogue: 0,0:20:10.62,0:20:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Heiβe Eisen und alte Zöpfe”\Nthese old bones of contention if Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.02,0:20:18.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you like, and they decided\N“Der Papst sall nicht Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.32,0:20:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,merh…Antichrist genaimnt warden”\Nthe Pope will no longer be called Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.45,0:20:27.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Antichrist. Well that’s the end of\Nthe Reformation as far as Lutheran Dialogue: 0,0:20:27.95,0:20:32.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is concerned. Time Magazine\Nthen picked it up and said, Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.35,0:20:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“A half-Millennium Rift: Lutherans\Nand Catholics reach agreement on Dialogue: 0,0:20:36.72,0:20:40.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the issues that once split\Nwestern Christianity in two.” Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.48,0:20:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And by 1999, November 1,\N“churches end 500-year rift” Dialogue: 0,0:20:47.45,0:20:53.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the Lutherans acknowledged the\NPope. And this amazing statement: Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.28,0:20:59.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Germany calls to ask:\Nforgive Luther” for what? Dialogue: 0,0:20:59.65,0:21:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For what should he be forgiven?\NAnd the Calvinistic church, they Dialogue: 0,0:21:04.58,0:21:09.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said “we need to have more respect\Nfor the icons and the things, we Dialogue: 0,0:21:09.22,0:21:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cannot just go together like this.”\N“Lutheran leader says Pope might Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.28,0:21:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be global spokesperson for all\NChristians. Friday Church News Dialogue: 0,0:21:18.02,0:21:22.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Notes, July 6, 2001. – Ishmael\NNoko, general secretary of the Dialogue: 0,0:21:22.98,0:21:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lutheran World Fellowship, said in\NMarch that Lutherans Dialogue: 0,0:21:25.42,0:21:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“‘can certainly look to the Pope’\Nas “one of the spiritual leaders in Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.62,0:21:32.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world today.’ He went on to say\Nthat the ecumenical movement Dialogue: 0,0:21:32.78,0:21:36.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,requires Christians to look into\Nthe possibility that the Pope Dialogue: 0,0:21:36.12,0:21:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,should become the “global\Nspokesperson for all Christians.’” Dialogue: 0,0:21:40.32,0:21:44.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So the Anglicans capitulate,\Nthe Lutherans capitulate, Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.45,0:21:48.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Presbyterians capitulate,\Nthe Methodists capitulate, everybody Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.28,0:21:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,capitulates. In Germany you have\Nnow churches such as this one which Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.05,0:21:55.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I find interesting, there’s the\NCatholic side, there’s the Dialogue: 0,0:21:55.15,0:22:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Protestant side, and they share the\Nbell tower. And by the year 2000, Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.82,0:22:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Knights of Columbus (which of\Ncourse is Jesuit controlled) Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.02,0:22:13.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,started sending icons of Our Lady\Nof Guadalupe to all the churches in Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.88,0:22:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world. “Nativity of the blessed\NVirgin… ‘It’s wonderful’ said Gino Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.75,0:22:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Masotti, grand knight of the\NKnights of Columbus Council 11608 Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.62,0:22:26.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at Precious Blood Cathedral”\Nthat he hopes everybody bows down Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.12,0:22:29.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the icon. Then came the Joint\NDeclaration of Lutherans and Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.92,0:22:34.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catholics, where they discussed\Nthe doctrine of justification, a Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.72,0:22:38.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brilliantly written document, which\Ntotally undermines the Protestant Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.95,0:22:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,principle. Well, if the Bible goes,\Nyou better get livelier so that Dialogue: 0,0:22:44.32,0:22:48.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people don’t read the Bible so much.\N“Theologen wollen lebendiger Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.95,0:22:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,warden” Theologians want to become\Nlivelier, let’s got o church to Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.35,0:22:59.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have some, you know, some liturgy,\Nsome movement; I don’t know, you Dialogue: 0,0:22:59.85,0:23:03.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know if you swing your arms, maybe\Nyou can switch the air conditioners Dialogue: 0,0:23:03.15,0:23:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off, I don’t know what the aim\Nof it all is, but churches forge Dialogue: 0,0:23:07.52,0:23:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together. “But in recent years many\Nleaders of national churches have Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.48,0:23:14.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moved from a cautious “No comment”\Nto the view that the charismatic Dialogue: 0,0:23:14.72,0:23:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement is the best hope for a\Nrenewal. Professor Hollenweger Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.12,0:23:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said exactly the same thing: he\Nsaid, “Catholics and Protestants” Dialogue: 0,0:23:21.92,0:23:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,come together because of the\N“charismatic movement” which Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.88,0:23:27.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“has worked miracles.” Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.08,0:23:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Charismatic wave of unity among\NS. A. churches” then the Dutch Reform Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.52,0:23:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,church says “The time is more than\Nripe to look at what we have in Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.68,0:23:39.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,common and not only at what\Nseparates us.” And all these great Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.92,0:23:44.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people say exactly the same thing,\Nthe moderators of all these great Dialogue: 0,0:23:44.65,0:23:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,churches. By 1990’s the World\NCouncil of Churches was not the Dialogue: 0,0:23:50.42,0:23:53.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,same as it used to be.\NOriginally the World Council of Dialogue: 0,0:23:53.95,0:24:00.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Churches was there to talk about\NProtestant unity, but of course it Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.15,0:24:04.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had an agenda to be led towards\NRome. Why is Rome not a member of Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.68,0:24:09.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the ecumenical movement?\NBecause it never separated, it’s Dialogue: 0,0:24:09.28,0:24:13.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mother, it’s the kiddies that\Nmust come together to go back to Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.98,0:24:18.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mommy, that’s what’s got to happen.\NIf Rome became a member of the Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.72,0:24:22.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ecumenical movement she would\Nsaythat she’s one of the sisters. Dialogue: 0,0:24:22.82,0:24:27.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She’s not, she’s the mother, so\Nshe cannot be. And at the World Dialogue: 0,0:24:27.52,0:24:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Council of Churches, they said here\N“come Holy Spirit… renew the Whole Dialogue: 0,0:24:31.38,0:24:35.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Creation” was the overall theme.\NNow the lady who was in charge of Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.92,0:24:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the main speech at the beginning\Nwas Ms Chung Kyung as she burns a Dialogue: 0,0:24:40.58,0:24:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,list of the dead she invoked.\NWell she gave the address, she is Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.28,0:24:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now professor at UTS, and she\Narrived on the stage dancing with Dialogue: 0,0:24:50.45,0:24:57.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aboriginal men, in loincloths, etc.\NAnd then she invoked the dead, she Dialogue: 0,0:24:57.45,0:25:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,called up Hagar, Uriah, male\Nbabies killed by Herod, Joan of Arc, Dialogue: 0,0:25:01.78,0:25:05.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people killed in the gas chambers,\NMahatma Gandhi, Steve Biko, Martin Dialogue: 0,0:25:05.52,0:25:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Luther King, and finally she\Nalso called up the spirit of our Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.15,0:25:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Liberator, Jesus Christ.\NAnd then she burnt the list as a Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.22,0:25:20.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,symbol. Now let’s look\Nat what happens here. Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.45,0:25:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Combining verbal fireworks with a\Nperformance by Korean and Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.38,0:25:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aboriginal dancers, Chung rendered\Na dramatic evocation of a female Dialogue: 0,0:25:29.08,0:25:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Holy Spirit… she linked [it] to\NHagar… ‘exploited and abandoned by Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.22,0:25:37.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Abraham and Sarah’… ‘I also know\Nthat I no longer believe in an Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.92,0:25:42.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,omnipotent, Macho, warrior God who\Nrescues all good guy sand punishes Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.08,0:25:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all bad guys…’ “Eighteen times\NChung summoned the spirits of the Dialogue: 0,0:25:46.22,0:25:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dead who have suffered injustices\Nand claimed that ‘without hearing Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.68,0:25:52.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cries of these spirits, we\Ncannot hear the voice of the Holy Dialogue: 0,0:25:52.28,0:25:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spirit… Don’t bother the Spirit by\Ncalling her all the time.’ Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.18,0:26:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Added Chung, ‘I hope the presence\Nof all our ancestors’ spirits here Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.85,0:26:06.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with us shall not make\Nyou uncomfortable.’” Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.35,0:26:12.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well is this biblical, yes or no?\NDefinitely not, but she is the Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.32,0:26:17.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,minister of the biggest Protestant\Nchurch in Korea, and she is now Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.95,0:26:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also Professor at UTS.\NChung Hyun Kung Dialogue: 0,0:26:23.88,0:26:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“… was a graduate of the Union\NTheological Seminary.” Dialogue: 0,0:26:27.25,0:26:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which I’ve already told you is\NMasonic, “Chung was ‘a professor of Dialogue: 0,0:26:31.38,0:26:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Korea’s Ewha Women’s University,\Nthe world’s largest university for Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.82,0:26:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,women, with 20,000 students’”\NShe said: “The three goddesses I Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.55,0:26:42.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,want to share with you are Kali\N[Hindu], Kwan-in [Buddhist], and Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.78,0:26:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Enna [Philippines]… my new trinity.’\N”Interesting, “she added: Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.72,0:26:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘The Christian church\Nhas been very patriarchal. Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.15,0:26:52.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s why we are here together,\Nin order to destroy this Dialogue: 0,0:26:52.68,0:26:56.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,patriarchal idolatry\Nof Christianity.’” Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.22,0:27:01.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok, so that’s the main spokesmen\Nat most of the World Council of Dialogue: 0,0:27:01.52,0:27:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Church’s meetings. She explains:\N“I came from… a Shamanist, Buddhist Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.18,0:27:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Confucian and Taoist and\NChristian tradition… when I look at Dialogue: 0,0:27:09.85,0:27:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our history of religion, we have\Nmore than 5000 years of Shamanism, Dialogue: 0,0:27:14.92,0:27:21.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more than 2000 years of Taoism, and\Nalmost 2000 years of Buddhism, 700 Dialogue: 0,0:27:21.02,0:27:26.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years of Confucianism and only 100\Nyears of Protestantism in Korea. Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.75,0:27:31.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Therefore, whenever I go to temples…\Nand look at Buddha, I feel so young… Dialogue: 0,0:27:31.38,0:27:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddha died in his 80s\Nand Jesus died when he was 33. Dialogue: 0,0:27:35.82,0:27:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe… Jesus should be called\N‘Too young to understand.’… Dialogue: 0,0:27:42.42,0:27:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow, “I feel like my bowel is Shamanist,\Nmy heart is Buddhist, my right Dialogue: 0,0:27:49.62,0:27:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Brain is Confucianist, and my left\Nbrain is Christian,’ Kyung Dialogue: 0,0:27:52.98,0:27:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continued. ‘I call it a family of\Ngods and… they are together.’” Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.82,0:28:02.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So do you see the direction in\Nwhich the World Council of Church’s Dialogue: 0,0:28:02.02,0:28:06.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is moving? Kyung also said:\N“We believe that this life-giving Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.45,0:28:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy came from god and it is\Neverywhere. It is in the sun, in Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.12,0:28:16.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the oc-” here we go again, how\Nnauseating, what is this? Pantheism. Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.02,0:28:19.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“It is from the ground, and it is\Nfrom the trees… If you feel very Dialogue: 0,0:28:19.18,0:28:23.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tired and you feel you don’t have\Nany energy to give, what you do is Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.02,0:28:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sit in silence, maybe you go to big\Ntree and ask… ‘give me some of your Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.28,0:28:30.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,life energy.’ Or you ask the sun to\Ngive you some life energy.” Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.95,0:28:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well is this Christianity, yes or\Nno? No this is absolutely not Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.38,0:28:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christianity. “Kyung was also a\Nspeaker at the World Council of Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.38,0:28:43.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Churches in Harare, Zimbabwe in\NNovember 1998 where she performed a Dialogue: 0,0:28:43.55,0:28:47.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sensual dance. Dr. Kyung declared\Nthat to witness about Jesus Christ Dialogue: 0,0:28:47.65,0:28:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to another person is in\Nreality ‘an act of violence.’ Dialogue: 0,0:28:52.48,0:28:56.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now let’s get to the hub of the\Nmatter, to witness about Jesus Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.48,0:29:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ is an act of violence, why?\NBecause you are doing what? Dialogue: 0,0:29:03.38,0:29:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are going against the human\Nrights of the other individual who Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.38,0:29:08.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,might be a Buddhist or a\NHindu or a this or a that. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.75,0:29:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He has the right to be what he is,\Nand if you tell him something else, Dialogue: 0,0:29:12.78,0:29:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘that you have to believe in Jesus\NChrist,’ then you are committing an Dialogue: 0,0:29:16.38,0:29:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,act of violence. So in other words,\Nwhat I am doing is an act of violence, ok. Dialogue: 0,0:29:23.85,0:29:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“When reminded that Jesus said in\NJohn 14:6 that He is the only way, Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.88,0:29:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kyung said Jesus ‘was mistaken.’”\NOk, that’s why the World Council Dialogue: 0,0:29:34.52,0:29:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Churches uses demons and all\Nkinds of interesting things. Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.78,0:29:45.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have Oikoumene, Oikoumene,\Nnow what does Oikoumene mean? Dialogue: 0,0:29:45.92,0:29:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here we have an example of Oikoumene.\NWell let’s ask the World Council of Dialogue: 0,0:29:51.38,0:29:56.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Church’s webpage what\NOikoumene actually means. Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.28,0:30:00.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The world ‘ecumenical’ is derived\Nfrom the Greek term oikoumene, Dialogue: 0,0:30:00.95,0:30:06.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which may be translated as\N‘the whole inhabited world’. Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.75,0:30:11.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is in seeing this world as God’s\Nthat we see ourselves as one. Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.25,0:30:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is in seeing all the world’s\Npeople as made in God’s image Dialogue: 0,0:30:14.02,0:30:20.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are called to protect the\Nwelfare of every one. Interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.08,0:30:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now remember that I always show\Nyou that Gary Kahr said the ancient Dialogue: 0,0:30:26.28,0:30:29.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Babylonian religion through\NKabbalism etc. through to Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.05,0:30:32.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Freemasonry controls Marxism,\Nthe American Secret Political Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.95,0:30:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Societies, the International Baking,\Nand the World Council of Churches. Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.58,0:30:40.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think he might\Nhave been right? Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.45,0:30:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With their teaching, “Jesus\Nwas wrong, he was too young Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.28,0:30:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to understand… we have nature\Nworship” all of these things, that Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.52,0:30:54.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is definitely not biblical.\NWhat does - “Alice A. Bailey, Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.98,0:30:59.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Foundress of Lucifer\NTrust, in 1919” she predicted Dialogue: 0,0:30:59.72,0:31:03.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“the appearance of ‘a Universal\NChurch’ of which ‘the definitive Dialogue: 0,0:31:03.38,0:31:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outline will appear toward\Nthe end of the century’… Dialogue: 0,0:31:07.52,0:31:12.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“There will not be any dissociation\Nbetween the Universal Church, the Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.85,0:31:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sacred Lodge of all true Masons”\Nsee how they’re bringing it Dialogue: 0,0:31:16.15,0:31:21.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together? “And the inner circles\Nof the esoteric societies… In this Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.22,0:31:24.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,way, the goals and work of the\NUnited Nations shall be solidified Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.92,0:31:29.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a new Church of God, led by all\Nthe religions and by all of the Dialogue: 0,0:31:29.75,0:31:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spiritual groups, shall put an end\Nto the great heresy of separateness.” Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.48,0:31:39.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good, this requires a whole\Nlecture, this is heavy stuff; Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.28,0:31:43.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so there’s a lecture coming,\N“The UN & the Occult Agenda’ it’s Dialogue: 0,0:31:43.72,0:31:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on your paper, this is very heavy.\NShe says “the churches, the lodges,” Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.68,0:31:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sacred lodge by the way,\N“the esoteric societies” Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.15,0:31:57.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,by the end of the century will\Nwork together to bring about this Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.68,0:32:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,New World Religion. Now as a\NChristian believing that Jesus is Dialogue: 0,0:32:03.62,0:32:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the only way, can I join\Nthis society, yes or no? Dialogue: 0,0:32:09.18,0:32:14.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You’re all so adamant, this is\Nvery strange. “Norman Vincent Peale” Dialogue: 0,0:32:14.82,0:32:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now who is Norman Vincent Peale?\NProbably one of the greatest Dialogue: 0,0:32:17.32,0:32:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preachers of our times,\N“(33rd Degree Freemason): Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.42,0:32:25.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Freemasonry has always welcomed\Nmen of all faiths and religious beliefs Dialogue: 0,0:32:25.85,0:32:28.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to enter its doors. The only\Nrequirement is for good men to Dialogue: 0,0:32:28.62,0:32:31.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believe in the Supreme Architect\Nand the immortality of the soul.” Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.95,0:32:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,None of which is of course biblical.\N“Masons, in fact, go beyond narrow Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.98,0:32:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sectarianism and limiting dogma.\NThey agree with the statement of the Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.02,0:32:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,famous statesman and writer\NEdmund Burke: ‘The body of all true Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.62,0:32:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religion consists, to be sure,\Nin obedience to the will of the Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.62,0:32:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sovereign of the world, in a confidence\Nin His declarations, and in imitation Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.78,0:32:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of His perfection.’” That’s what Norman\NVincent Peale said who is a 33 degree Dialogue: 0,0:32:55.68,0:33:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Freemason. As is Bishop Carl J. Sanders,\N33°, G.C. United Methodist Church. Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.48,0:33:05.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rabbi Seymour Atlas, Dr. James\NWesberry, Executive Director Dialogue: 0,0:33:05.22,0:33:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Editor of Sunday\NGeorgia Baptist Church. Dialogue: 0,0:33:07.68,0:33:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He’s a 32° Freemason.\NReverend Louis Grant, District Dialogue: 0,0:33:10.85,0:33:14.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Superintendent The United Methodist\NChurch, 33° Freemason. Dialogue: 0,0:33:14.08,0:33:18.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Reverend blah blah blah blah, on\Nand on and on. Well Norman Vincent Dialogue: 0,0:33:18.05,0:33:20.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Peale said “I have found…that the\NScottish Rite and the Symbolic Dialogue: 0,0:33:20.85,0:33:24.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lodge espouse the belief of no one\Nreligion, but are a respecter of Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.02,0:33:29.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all major religions of the world.”\NAnd Billy Graham says that Norman Dialogue: 0,0:33:29.28,0:33:36.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Vincent Peale is his great mentor.\NInteresting, he has a 33° mentor. Dialogue: 0,0:33:36.58,0:33:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Billy Graham, World’s most popular\N‘Christian’ evangelist is – was Dialogue: 0,0:33:40.62,0:33:43.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listed on web pages as -\Na 33rd degree Freemason. Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.85,0:33:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By themselves, after much\Ncriticism they took them off all Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.85,0:33:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lists. Shaw was himself a 33°\Nfreemason, revealed that Billy Dialogue: 0,0:33:54.05,0:33:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Graham was at his initiation\Nceremony, but in his book, Dialogue: 0,0:33:58.98,0:34:05.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Deception, he talks about a\Nprominent evangelist who attended it, Dialogue: 0,0:34:05.85,0:34:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that he could get his book\Npublished. Norman Vincent Peale Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.38,0:34:16.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is a definite 33° Freemason, ex Grand\NChaplain of the Grand Lodge of New Dialogue: 0,0:34:16.15,0:34:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,York, this is the one that Billy\NGraham said is his mentor. Dialogue: 0,0:34:20.55,0:34:25.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert Schuller, 33° Freemason,\Nthese are webpage sites where you Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.92,0:34:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can look it up, but of course there\Nare many many writings which Dialogue: 0,0:34:29.68,0:34:33.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confirm this, so this is not the\Nonly source; I’m just quoting from Dialogue: 0,0:34:33.25,0:34:38.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sources. Oral Roberts, Jesse\NJackson, most of the early founding Dialogue: 0,0:34:38.25,0:34:41.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mormons, we know that;\NJehovah’s witness, we know all Dialogue: 0,0:34:41.02,0:34:45.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that. Peale, let’s have a look at\NNorman Vincent Peale, endorsed the Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.78,0:34:48.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,channeled messages\Ncalled the “Jesus Letters”, Dialogue: 0,0:34:48.48,0:34:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,written by Jane Palzere and Anna\NBrown. So he endorsed channeled Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.98,0:34:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,letters. “The amazing holy letters\Nwhere written on each day over a\Nt Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.18,0:35:01.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wo-year period that began on a\Nmorning in 1978. Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.45,0:35:04.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said the letters were dictated\Nby a ‘nonliving spirit’ who Dialogue: 0,0:35:04.85,0:35:08.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,identified Himself through\Nher pen as Jesus Christ.” Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.62,0:35:12.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There’s the quote: …Peale’s response…\NHe adds: “it little matters if these Dialogue: 0,0:35:12.92,0:35:17.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writings came from Jesus of Nazareth\Nor Jesus of Jane, they are Dialogue: 0,0:35:17.25,0:35:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the same consciousness\Nand that consciousness is God. Dialogue: 0,0:35:20.82,0:35:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am part of God and Jane and\NAnna are part of that same God.” Dialogue: 0,0:35:25.62,0:35:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right, that’s what Norman Vincent\NPeale taught, this is the mentor of Dialogue: 0,0:35:31.08,0:35:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Billy Graham. Interesting.\N…speaking of occultist Kreskin… Dialogue: 0,0:35:37.18,0:35:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“All he’s doing” says\NNorman Vincent Peale Dialogue: 0,0:35:39.82,0:35:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“is dramatizing what I’ve been\Npreaching in my writing for years.” Dialogue: 0,0:35:44.52,0:35:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Another book, The Dead Are Alive!\NThey Can and Do Communicate with Dialogue: 0,0:35:48.42,0:35:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You, was also promoted by Peale.\NHe gushed: “A masterpiece!... Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.25,0:35:57.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hope it will be widely read.”\NOk, this is the mentor of Billy Dialogue: 0,0:35:57.75,0:36:00.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Graham, just remember that.\N“The book’s author is Harold Dialogue: 0,0:36:00.85,0:36:03.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sherman, a psychic and spirit\Nmedium who also wrote a companion Dialogue: 0,0:36:03.85,0:36:06.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book, You live after death.” Dialogue: 0,0:36:06.05,0:36:11.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pope John Paul II visit the Jewish\NSynagogue by 1986, ’87 Dialogue: 0,0:36:11.05,0:36:15.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he tours the US, meets with\NProtestants and Orthodox, ‘88-’89: Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.75,0:36:19.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Russia opens the door to the\Ncharismatic movement, and so Dialogue: 0,0:36:19.58,0:36:24.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they’re all coming together\Nin one big happy family. Dialogue: 0,0:36:24.52,0:36:28.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Southern Cross,\Nthe Catholic Newspaper write, Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.32,0:36:32.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Israel’s chief rabbi pays visit to\NPope” The patriarch of course of Dialogue: 0,0:36:32.85,0:36:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Orthodox church and the Pope\Nalso meet with much Masonic Dialogue: 0,0:36:37.52,0:36:41.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,signaling going over there.\N“Israel invites the Pope to visit Dialogue: 0,0:36:41.75,0:36:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Holy Land” and the Pope\Nhonors Shindler’s widow. Dialogue: 0,0:36:47.22,0:36:54.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the Rabbi, Robert Jacobs, let’s\Nhere what he has to say on this issue. Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.35,0:37:02.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“And in 1965 Vatican II changed that,” Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.75,0:37:05.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Jacob says the second Vatican\Ncouncil marked an historic turn Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.75,0:37:09.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around for Catholic Jewish\Nrelations. And he says John Paul II Dialogue: 0,0:37:09.38,0:37:12.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has done extraordinary things to\Nshow respect for Judaism. Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.48,0:37:14.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He was the first Pope to visit a\Nsynagogue.” Dialogue: 0,0:37:14.98,0:37:19.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jacobs:\N“No Pope in Roman history had ever Dialogue: 0,0:37:19.08,0:37:26.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,done, has ever done, what he has\Ndone. It gives all Jews a feeling Dialogue: 0,0:37:26.72,0:37:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that for the first time in Christian\Nchurch history, Judaism Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.92,0:37:39.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is appreciated as having its own\Nintegrity, and is not demeaned. Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.05,0:37:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it’s a tremendous privilege\Nto meet this extraordinary Pope.” Dialogue: 0,0:37:46.32,0:37:50.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Veith: And then when the Pope\Nvisited St. Louis, this is what he Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.38,0:37:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had to say. Jacob: “We rejoice and\Nblossom, they will blossom with Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.52,0:38:03.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,abundant flowers and\Nrejoice with joyful song.” Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.98,0:38:10.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Veith: That’s interesting, well here\Nis Aleksy, the Russian patriarch, Dialogue: 0,0:38:10.48,0:38:17.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there he is with Cardinal Cassidy,\Nand they have much more freedom; Dialogue: 0,0:38:17.08,0:38:20.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is a signal picture\Nby the way, Oikoumene, Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.78,0:38:23.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Pope and the patriarch together. Dialogue: 0,0:38:23.75,0:38:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we have a revival of Eastern\NOrthodoxy. Occultism is revived, Dialogue: 0,0:38:29.78,0:38:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Asian religions are revived, Islam,\NBuddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, Dialogue: 0,0:38:34.02,0:38:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sokka Gakkai, and Spiritism.\NIn the world there is a revival of Dialogue: 0,0:38:38.55,0:38:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religion and religious fervor and\Nconflict is on the increase, have Dialogue: 0,0:38:43.45,0:38:49.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you noticed that? Yes, now why?\NBecause through chaos and Dialogue: 0,0:38:49.68,0:38:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conflict, you will bring them\Ntogether, make the pain of Dialogue: 0,0:38:54.92,0:39:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,separation greater than the\Npain of union. Thesis, antithesis, Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.85,0:39:08.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,synthesis is the Hegelian\Nphilosophy. “Great expectations” Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.15,0:39:13.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the patriarch of Constantinople\Nsays, “we will join the churches”. Dialogue: 0,0:39:13.68,0:39:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the opening of the Islamic\NCultural Centre in Rome, Catholic Dialogue: 0,0:39:17.18,0:39:22.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bishops residing; Pope John Paul\Ngreets them, Islam and Catholicism, Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.68,0:39:25.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we’ve dealt with it in a whole\Nlecture, coming together. Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.88,0:39:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is how to bring\NJudaism, Islam, Christianity all Dialogue: 0,0:39:31.28,0:39:36.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together. These are documents from\Nthe Catholic Academy of Trier, note Dialogue: 0,0:39:36.28,0:39:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what they are using over here, what\Nis the symbolism they are using Dialogue: 0,0:39:40.78,0:39:44.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with all these strange\Nsymbols on their documents? Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.12,0:39:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Same over here, pentagrams, all\Nthe religious symbols in a circle, Dialogue: 0,0:39:49.48,0:39:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,papal seminary; what is this\Nstructure here with the mystic taos Dialogue: 0,0:39:53.65,0:39:57.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around it, what does it mean, the\Nemblem of the centenary of the Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.35,0:40:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catholic Church in Cameroon.\NWell these are Kalyant’s and Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.68,0:40:05.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mandala’s that they are using,\Nthese are symbols of Eastern Dialogue: 0,0:40:05.92,0:40:12.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Religions symbolizing unity of all\Nthe churches. Pope and the Dalai Dialogue: 0,0:40:12.28,0:40:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lama together, and it is\Ninteresting that we need to study Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.08,0:40:23.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what the Protestant world has to\Nsay on this issue as well, and I Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.38,0:40:28.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would like to show you the great\NProtestant preachers and what they Dialogue: 0,0:40:28.52,0:40:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are actually preaching, now Robert\NSchuller is listed on many many Dialogue: 0,0:40:32.05,0:40:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,webpages as a 33 degree Freemason.\NWell the proof of the pudding of course Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.18,0:40:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is always in the eating. He wrote here\Nin The Fourth Dimension, Foreword, Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.08,0:40:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I discovered the reality of that\Ndynamic dimension in prayer that Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.68,0:40:52.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,comes through visualizing…\NDon’t try to understand it. Dialogue: 0,0:40:52.85,0:40:56.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just start to enjoy it!\NIt’s true. It works. I tried it.” Dialogue: 0,0:40:56.72,0:41:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now visualizing is the way in\Nwhich you start visualizing Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.78,0:41:05.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something and it becomes part of\Nyour fantasy world, they train Dialogue: 0,0:41:05.58,0:41:10.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,little kids to do this, this is\Noccult technique, it’s occultism. Dialogue: 0,0:41:10.68,0:41:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is his famous cathedral, the\Ncrystal palace, there he is, this Dialogue: 0,0:41:16.55,0:41:20.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great preacher; by the way he took\Nthe plans of this cathedral and he Dialogue: 0,0:41:20.82,0:41:25.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,took them to Rome in order to have\Nthem blessed by the Pope. Dialogue: 0,0:41:25.12,0:41:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s very interesting that\NRobert Schuller should take these Dialogue: 0,0:41:29.08,0:41:34.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the Pope to have them blessed.\NHis son is now obviously taking Dialogue: 0,0:41:34.95,0:41:38.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over the ministry as he\Ngets a little bit older. Dialogue: 0,0:41:38.48,0:41:42.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert Schuller: Quotes from\NSelf-Esteem: The New Reformation, Dialogue: 0,0:41:42.45,0:41:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he writes, “Classical theology has\Nerred in its insistence that Dialogue: 0,0:41:47.62,0:41:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,theology be ‘God-centered,’\Nnot ‘man-centered’” (p. 64). Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.25,0:41:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s very interesting, that’s\Nspoken like a true Freemason, Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.88,0:42:02.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wouldn’t you agree?\NYes, on p. 153 he writes Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.78,0:42:07.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“One classical role of the pulpit\Nin Protestantism has been to Dialogue: 0,0:42:07.72,0:42:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘preach sermons’ – oh - which imply\Nindoctrination more than education. Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.32,0:42:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within this form of communication,\Nthere is an inherent, intrinsic Dialogue: 0,0:42:18.95,0:42:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inclination to intimidate,\Nmanipulate, and, hence, offend the Dialogue: 0,0:42:23.45,0:42:27.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person’s most prized quality\Nof humanness – his dignity” Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.98,0:42:35.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well that sounds like Vatican II,\Nlet’s move to liturgy, let’s have Dialogue: 0,0:42:35.58,0:42:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all these wonderful things other\Nthan the preaching of the word. Dialogue: 0,0:42:41.65,0:42:46.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He writes on page 14,\N“Sin is any act or thought that Dialogue: 0,0:42:46.18,0:42:52.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,robs myself or another human\Nbeing of his or her self-esteem” Dialogue: 0,0:42:52.18,0:42:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that’s interesting because\NI thought the Bible said, Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.68,0:42:59.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“sin is the transgression of the\Nlaw,” isn’t it right? Dialogue: 0,0:42:59.35,0:43:02.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He writes on page 26-27\N“What we need is a theology of Dialogue: 0,0:43:02.98,0:43:07.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,salvation that begins and ends with\Na recognition of every person’s Dialogue: 0,0:43:07.15,0:43:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hunger for glory” Oh, I thought\Nthat justification is something Dialogue: 0,0:43:18.12,0:43:23.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that actually lays man’s glory in\Nthe dust, that’s what I thought, it Dialogue: 0,0:43:23.12,0:43:27.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,makes Jesus Christ more, and me\Nless; isn’t that what the Bible Dialogue: 0,0:43:27.45,0:43:34.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teaches? “He must increase,\NI must decrease” wow, p. 68 Dialogue: 0,0:43:34.82,0:43:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“To be born again means that we\Nmust be changed from a negative to Dialogue: 0,0:43:39.22,0:43:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a positive self-image – from\Ninferiority to self-esteem, from Dialogue: 0,0:43:45.88,0:43:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fear to love, from doubt to trust”.\NVery interesting theology. Dialogue: 0,0:43:49.95,0:43:57.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Page 75 “The Cross sanctifies the\Nego trip. For the Cross protected Dialogue: 0,0:43:57.08,0:44:01.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our Lord’s perfect self-esteem\Nfrom turning into sinful pride.” Dialogue: 0,0:44:01.48,0:44:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now that is just plain blasphemy\Nas far as I’m concerned. Page 135 Dialogue: 0,0:44:07.65,0:44:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Christ is the Ideal One, for he\Nwas Self-Esteem Incarnate”. Dialogue: 0,0:44:12.78,0:44:17.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought he came to\Nshow humility, didn’t he? Dialogue: 0,0:44:17.45,0:44:24.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My Bible says he was humble.\N“Jesus never called a person a Dialogue: 0,0:44:24.05,0:44:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sinner. … Rather he reserved his\Nrighteous rebuke for those who used Dialogue: 0,0:44:28.15,0:44:32.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their religious authority to generate\Nguilt and caused people to Dialogue: 0,0:44:32.92,0:44:38.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lose their ability to taste and\Nenjoy their right to dignity…” Dialogue: 0,0:44:38.28,0:44:43.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interesting. I thought he said\N“I have not called the righteous, Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.38,0:44:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but sinners to repentance”\Ndidn’t he say that? Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.02,0:44:49.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So this man is obviously using\Nsome strange document, Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.88,0:44:54.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don’t know which Bible he uses.\NHe says “… the church’s problem is Dialogue: 0,0:44:54.92,0:44:59.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that it had a God-centered theology\Nfor centuries, when it needs a Dialogue: 0,0:44:59.52,0:45:04.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,man-centered one; (2) we’re not\Nbad, merely badly informed about Dialogue: 0,0:45:04.48,0:45:11.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how good we are;” oh, Robert\NSchuller, that’s a fascinating Dialogue: 0,0:45:11.52,0:45:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,statement! “It would be an insult\Nto the integrity of any human being Dialogue: 0,0:45:16.35,0:45:20.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to call him a sinner;”\NI thought when he comes, the Holy Dialogue: 0,0:45:20.68,0:45:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spirit, he will convict us of sin\Nand righteousness and judgment. Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.32,0:45:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Jesus knew His wroth;\NHis success fed His self-esteem. Dialogue: 0,0:45:34.22,0:45:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He suffered the cross to sanctify\NHis self-esteem and He bore the Dialogue: 0,0:45:38.78,0:45:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cross to sanctify your self-esteem.\NThe cross will sanctify the ego trip”. Dialogue: 0,0:45:44.38,0:45:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Isn’t this pathetic?\NThis man is not a Christian, Dialogue: 0,0:45:48.68,0:45:55.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he’s a Mason. Now, remember when\NI say Mason, I mean high Mason, Dialogue: 0,0:45:55.38,0:45:59.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because the poor lower grades of\NMasons know nothing about all of this; Dialogue: 0,0:45:59.45,0:46:04.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,high Mason, let me qualify.\N[Schuller further amplified this Dialogue: 0,0:46:04.72,0:46:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,latter thought on the 8/12/80 Phil\NDonahue Show; Schuller said, Dialogue: 0,0:46:08.68,0:46:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Jesus had an ego. He said,\N‘I, if I be lifted up, will draw all Dialogue: 0,0:46:12.98,0:46:18.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,men unto me.’ Wow, what an ego trip\NHe was on!”] That’s disgusting. Dialogue: 0,0:46:18.68,0:46:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Questioner, this is a questioner\Nto Schuller: “How could the cross, Dialogue: 0,0:46:23.45,0:46:26.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as you write, “sanctify the ego\Ntrip,” and make us proud, in the Dialogue: 0,0:46:26.18,0:46:31.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,light of passages that say,\N“I hate pride and arrogance (Prov. 8:13), Dialogue: 0,0:46:31.15,0:46:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Pride goes before\Ndestruction” (Prov. 16:18), Dialogue: 0,0:46:34.22,0:46:38.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The Lord detests all the proud”\N(Prov. 16:5), “Do not be proud” Dialogue: 0,0:46:38.68,0:46:43.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(Rom. 12:16), “Love does not\Nboast, it is not proud” (1 Cor. 13:4). Dialogue: 0,0:46:43.82,0:46:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact Paul warns Timothy\Nthat in the last days men Dialogue: 0,0:46:46.42,0:46:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“will be lovers of themselves”\N(2 Tim. 3:2). …” Dialogue: 0,0:46:49.62,0:46:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Good questioner, I like the\Nquestioner already, Dialogue: 0,0:46:53.02,0:46:55.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Why should we do anything to\Nencourage people to become Dialogue: 0,0:46:55.68,0:46:58.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“lovers of themselves” if Paul\Nin fact warned others that Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.95,0:47:03.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would be the state of\Ngodlessness in the last days?” Dialogue: 0,0:47:03.12,0:47:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Schuller: “I hope you don't [preach\Nthis] because you could do a lot of Dialogue: 0,0:47:07.45,0:47:12.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damage to a lot of beautiful people.\N… if you preach that text, oh man, Dialogue: 0,0:47:12.12,0:47:16.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sure hop you give it the kind of\Ninterpretation that I do, or I’ll Dialogue: 0,0:47:16.18,0:47:19.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tell you, you’ll drive them farther\Naway and they’ll be madder than Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.12,0:47:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hell at you and they’ll turn the\NBible off, and they’ll switch you Dialogue: 0,0:47:21.65,0:47:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,off, and they’ll turn on the\Nrock music and Madonna. Dialogue: 0,0:47:24.32,0:47:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just because it’s in the Bible\Ndoesn’t mean you should preach it. Dialogue: 0,0:47:29.08,0:47:33.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,… it is so difficult to preach\Nsome of those texts and not come Dialogue: 0,0:47:33.08,0:47:36.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,across as lacking humility…” 11/92 radio\Ninterview with Robert Schuller Rapidnet.com. Dialogue: 0,0:47:36.02,0:47:38.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See how these people turn it round? Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.98,0:47:43.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Robert Schuller: “… what sets me apart\Nfrom fundamentalists [is that they] are Dialogue: 0,0:47:43.28,0:47:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trying to convert everybody to believe\Nhow they believe. … We know the things Dialogue: 0,0:47:47.32,0:47:51.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the major faiths can agree on.\NWe try to focus on those without Dialogue: 0,0:47:51.52,0:47:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,offending those with different view-points. …”\N(3/23/89, USA Today). There’s the quote, Dialogue: 0,0:47:56.18,0:47:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,USA Today. -Schuller said:\N“When we know we have been redeemed Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.78,0:48:04.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we know we are part of God’s\Nfamily, we are ready to dream that Dialogue: 0,0:48:04.08,0:48:09.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,great divine dream of building the\Nkingdom of God in the world.” Dialogue: 0,0:48:09.12,0:48:13.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now the Kingdom of God\NI thought was not of this world, Dialogue: 0,0:48:13.32,0:48:18.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,didn’t you think so as well?\NRobert Schuller said after his Dialogue: 0,0:48:18.12,0:48:22.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thousandth telecast, when he was\Ncongratulated by Mother Theresa, Dialogue: 0,0:48:22.15,0:48:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was still alive there;\NBilly Graham congratulated him, Dialogue: 0,0:48:24.65,0:48:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,S. Scott King, Martin Luther [King],\Nall the living presidents of the Dialogue: 0,0:48:28.28,0:48:31.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,United States as well as Sammy\NDavis Junior – who was a Satanist. Dialogue: 0,0:48:31.18,0:48:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all congratulated him.\N“What we need is to positivise the Dialogue: 0,0:48:36.85,0:48:39.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,words that have only had a negative\Nconnotation. There is no greater Dialogue: 0,0:48:39.88,0:48:43.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,damage that can be done than to\Nrefer to the lost sinful condition Dialogue: 0,0:48:43.95,0:48:49.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of man.” Let me tell you something,\Nif man doesn’t realize that he is Dialogue: 0,0:48:49.35,0:48:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a lost sinful condition, then he\Nwill never need a savior, and then Dialogue: 0,0:48:52.65,0:48:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he will be lost. “I don’t think\Nanything has been done in the name Dialogue: 0,0:48:58.32,0:49:01.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Christ that and under the banner\Nof Christianity that has proven Dialogue: 0,0:49:01.15,0:49:03.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more destructive to human\Npersonality and, hence, Dialogue: 0,0:49:03.65,0:49:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,counterproductive to the evangelism\Nenterprise than the often crude, Dialogue: 0,0:49:07.68,0:49:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uncouth, and unchristian strategy\Nof attempting to make people aware Dialogue: 0,0:49:11.78,0:49:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of their lost and sinful condition.”\N(Time, March 18, 1985). Dialogue: 0,0:49:14.28,0:49:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow, that’s disgusting.\NWell he goes further than that, Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.18,0:49:24.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,let’s have a look at what he really\Nconsists of. “The most effective Dialogue: 0,0:49:24.25,0:49:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mantras employ the “M” sound.\NYou can get the feel of it by Dialogue: 0,0:49:30.35,0:49:35.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,repeating the words,\N“I am, I am” many times over…. Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.42,0:49:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Transcendental Meditation or TM…\Nis not a religion nor is it Dialogue: 0,0:49:38.92,0:49:41.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,necessarily anti-Christian.”\N(Peace of Mind Through Possibility Dialogue: 0,0:49:41.25,0:49:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thinking, pp. 131-32).\NWow, you can chant Dialogue: 0,0:49:43.25,0:49:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“I am, I am, I am”? What\Ndo you think about that? Dialogue: 0,0:49:47.52,0:49:51.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now you’re saying I’m God, surely\Nyou don’t mean that mister Dialogue: 0,0:49:51.82,0:49:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Schuller, do you? Methodist,\NAnglican, all of them come Dialogue: 0,0:49:56.08,0:49:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together, they all begin to\Nbelieve in life after death. Dialogue: 0,0:49:59.95,0:50:04.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well here in self-esteem the new\NReformation, Robert Schuller Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.32,0:50:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,writes, “To be born again means\Nthat we must be changed from a Dialogue: 0,0:50:08.45,0:50:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,negative to a positive self-image –\Nfrom inferiority to self esteem, Dialogue: 0,0:50:13.42,0:50:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from fear to love, from doubt to\Ntrust. ……. And we can pray,” Dialogue: 0,0:50:17.58,0:50:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Note what mister Schuller says,\NDr. Schuller, sorry, ‘Our Father in Dialogue: 0,0:50:23.18,0:50:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,heaven, honorable is our name\N[emphasis in the original].” Dialogue: 0,0:50:29.38,0:50:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is Robert Schuller saying?\NHe’s saying he is God. Dialogue: 0,0:50:34.28,0:50:43.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this biblical or is it demonic\Ntheology, you tell me, you choose; Dialogue: 0,0:50:43.15,0:50:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s demonic. Who approves of his\Ntheology, who likes his theology? Dialogue: 0,0:50:49.28,0:50:52.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There it says, “Discover Your\NPossibilities” Robert Schuller, Dialogue: 0,0:50:52.05,0:50:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Positive, inspirational\Nguidelines, who endorces it? Dialogue: 0,0:50:55.02,0:51:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Dr. Schuller has an amazing ministry,”\NDr. Billy Graham. Dialogue: 0,0:51:01.22,0:51:09.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Birds of a feather flock together.\NWho is Billy Graham? Dialogue: 0,0:51:09.05,0:51:11.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here he is, one of the greatest\Npreachers of our time, Christian in Dialogue: 0,0:51:11.92,0:51:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Winter, here he is with Nixon,\N“When you went into the ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:51:17.18,0:51:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Politics lost one of its\Npotentially greatest practitioners.” Dialogue: 0,0:51:21.12,0:51:25.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember that Nixon had a Jesuit\Nspeech writer? Do you remember that? Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.45,0:51:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We showed you those quotes.\NAnd, you know if everybody loves Dialogue: 0,0:51:30.98,0:51:36.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you in the world, well;\Nit gets kind of scary. Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.05,0:51:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here he is at Madison Square\NGardens, here he is at the U.S. Dialogue: 0,0:51:40.78,0:51:44.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Capital during the presentation of\Nthe Congressional Gold Medal that Dialogue: 0,0:51:44.58,0:51:49.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he received with Al Gore sitting\Nthere. “On receiving honorary Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.02,0:51:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctorate from the Roman Catholic\NBelmont College, said the: Dialogue: 0,0:51:52.92,0:51:57.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“gospel that founded this college\Nis the same gospel which I preach Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.02,0:52:01.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,today.” Hello, Billy Graham, I\Nthought you were a Protestant! Dialogue: 0,0:52:01.28,0:52:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why are you teaching Catholicism?\NAnd please tell me, why in all Dialogue: 0,0:52:07.68,0:52:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your campaigns, do you have a team\Nof 800 Catholic nuns and Jesuit Dialogue: 0,0:52:13.22,0:52:16.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,priests and all kinds of people\Nlike that? And why after your Dialogue: 0,0:52:16.95,0:52:20.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,campaign do you channel them to the\NCatholic priests to be incorporated Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.65,0:52:27.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into Catholicism? Why do you do\Nthat if you are a Protestant? Dialogue: 0,0:52:27.55,0:52:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The Religious News Services\Nreported on January 13, 1981, Dialogue: 0,0:52:31.35,0:52:34.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Pope John Paul II was closeted\Nfor almost two hours with the Dialogue: 0,0:52:34.28,0:52:38.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rev. Billy Graham, the world’s\Nbest-known Protestant evangelist.” Dialogue: 0,0:52:38.15,0:52:41.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Religious news service, there it\Nis, there he is together with him, Dialogue: 0,0:52:41.45,0:52:45.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“the Pope is almost an evangelist”\Nand here he is dressed in black, Dialogue: 0,0:52:45.62,0:52:51.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the Pope dressed\Nin white, talking together. Dialogue: 0,0:52:51.45,0:52:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was through Billy Graham’s\Nintervention that former President Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.75,0:52:58.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ronald Reagan set up an\Nambassador to the Vatican. Dialogue: 0,0:52:58.25,0:53:02.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Against the Constitution of the\NUnited States. He has been the Dialogue: 0,0:53:02.88,0:53:06.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,linking agent from the White House\Nto Rome. Graham wrote, this is his Dialogue: 0,0:53:06.85,0:53:10.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own words, speaking for himself:\N“Reagan was the first American Dialogue: 0,0:53:10.25,0:53:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,President to appoint a full\Nambassador to the Vatican. Dialogue: 0,0:53:13.45,0:53:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before he made the appointment, he\Nasked my view. I told him I thought Dialogue: 0,0:53:16.92,0:53:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it would probably be a good thing –\Nin spite of a number of potential Dialogue: 0,0:53:20.55,0:53:24.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,problems concerning the separation\Nof church and state – and wrote an Dialogue: 0,0:53:24.12,0:53:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,extended confidential letter\Noutlining my reasons. Dialogue: 0,0:53:26.95,0:53:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Among other things, I told him I\Ndid not think it necessarily Dialogue: 0,0:53:30.48,0:53:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,violated the separation of church\Nand state. For whatever reasons, Dialogue: 0,0:53:34.02,0:53:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mr. Reagan went ahead with the plan.\NLater my letter was leaked to the press. Dialogue: 0,0:53:37.22,0:53:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It caused some consternation\Namong my Baptist friends.” Dialogue: 0,0:53:41.18,0:53:45.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, of course it would cause a\Nconsternation, but his Baptist Dialogue: 0,0:53:45.22,0:53:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,friends might not know what he his,\Nbecause it is so well covered up in Dialogue: 0,0:53:49.32,0:53:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world. If you want to read more\Nabout him, read Billy Graham and Dialogue: 0,0:53:53.48,0:53:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His Friends, “Robert Schuller’s\N1986 Possibilities magazine had Dialogue: 0,0:53:59.28,0:54:04.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Templeton’s photo on the cover.\N‘The lead article Templeton that Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.78,0:54:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,‘nothing exists except God’ (that’s\Npantheism) and that ‘the Christ Dialogue: 0,0:54:09.32,0:54:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spirit dwells in every human being\Nwhether the person knows it or not’ Dialogue: 0,0:54:12.62,0:54:16.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(that’s universalism).”\NTempleton, now who received the Dialogue: 0,0:54:16.65,0:54:21.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Templeton prize? Of course Billy\NGraham, “Graham told Schuller Dialogue: 0,0:54:21.82,0:54:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,during an interview: ‘… whether they\Ncome from the Muslim world, or Dialogue: 0,0:54:25.28,0:54:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Buddhist world, or the\NChristian world, they are members Dialogue: 0,0:54:27.75,0:54:31.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Body of Christ, because\Nthey’ve been called by God.’” Dialogue: 0,0:54:31.35,0:54:35.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, you can be a member of the\Nbody of Christ in any of those Dialogue: 0,0:54:35.48,0:54:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religions if you unknowingly do\Nwhat the law requires because your Dialogue: 0,0:54:42.38,0:54:47.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conscious dictates this, and God\Noverlooks the ignorance of those Dialogue: 0,0:54:47.58,0:54:55.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who do not know. “The ignorance God\Nwinks at” but, if you know the law Dialogue: 0,0:54:55.35,0:54:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and you do it not, you will die, if\Nyou don’t know the law and you Dialogue: 0,0:54:59.08,0:55:03.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,still break the law, you will also\Ndie; that means eternally. Dialogue: 0,0:55:03.95,0:55:07.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Evangelicals and Catholics\Njoin forces eventually. Dialogue: 0,0:55:07.82,0:55:12.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Pope John Paul II is decried\Nas the Superstar of the world. Dialogue: 0,0:55:12.42,0:55:16.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Pope deserves title of\Nfirst citizen of the world.” Dialogue: 0,0:55:16.22,0:55:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Newsweek October 15, 1979.\NHe said that in ’79 already. Dialogue: 0,0:55:19.85,0:55:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After September 11, ecumenism\Nreceived a tremendous boost. Dialogue: 0,0:55:26.32,0:55:29.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All the religions stated coming\Ntogether, the Moslem’s and the Dialogue: 0,0:55:29.62,0:55:34.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Protestant’s and the Catholics,\Nthey were all praying together. Dialogue: 0,0:55:34.38,0:55:40.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Death O’ Protestantism Foreseen.\NBy 1997, the Episcopal church, Dialogue: 0,0:55:40.32,0:55:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with its bishop here, had the\Nfollowing to say, Bishop Adler, Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.32,0:55:49.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“the world of the Lord told us that\Nwhat we are witnessing is the end Dialogue: 0,0:55:49.05,0:55:52.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of an era, that God is restoring\NHis temple and that there would be Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.92,0:55:58.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a priesthood, an Episcopacy that\Nwas an apostolic succession – a Dialogue: 0,0:55:58.58,0:56:02.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,main difference between\NProtestant and Catholicism.” Dialogue: 0,0:56:02.22,0:56:08.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now this is this church, this is –\Nbasically the high church of Dialogue: 0,0:56:08.52,0:56:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,England in the United States.\NBishop Adler said Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.25,0:56:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“that after the sermon, he ‘stood\Nup to give a prophetic word’ but Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.55,0:56:20.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fell on the floor and wept for 45\Nminutes.’ Then, he said, ‘We all Dialogue: 0,0:56:20.38,0:56:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sensed what God was saying to us –\NWe were witnessing the end of Dialogue: 0,0:56:24.22,0:56:29.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Protestantism.’” And then he said\N“‘God’s church is Catholic!’ Dialogue: 0,0:56:29.68,0:56:33.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he declared. ‘It was Catholic in\Nthe beginning, and it will be Dialogue: 0,0:56:33.18,0:56:39.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Catholic in the end.” “Churches\Nagree Pope has overall authority” Dialogue: 0,0:56:39.08,0:56:43.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,isn’t that interesting? The Pope\Nwrote this and he said in Dialogue: 0,0:56:43.98,0:56:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his Crossing the Threshold of Hope\Nthat by the year 2000 we will need Dialogue: 0,0:56:48.38,0:56:54.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be more united. 1999, June: They\Nwrote, “The Pope was recognized as Dialogue: 0,0:56:54.68,0:56:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the overall authority\Nin the Christian world” Dialogue: 0,0:56:57.55,0:57:02.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Christian world entirely!\N“By an Anglican and Roman Catholic Dialogue: 0,0:57:02.18,0:57:04.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commission yesterday\Nwhich described him as a Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.65,0:57:11.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“gift to be received by all the\NChurches”. Interesting, and then he Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.35,0:57:14.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has The Gift of Authority,\N“the 45-page document, The Gift of Dialogue: 0,0:57:14.45,0:57:17.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Authority, has been produced by the\N18-member Anglican-Roman Catholic Dialogue: 0,0:57:17.62,0:57:21.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,International Commission…” and it\N“concluded that the Bishop of Rome Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.25,0:57:25.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had a ‘specific ministry concerning\Nthe discernment of truth’” Dialogue: 0,0:57:25.28,0:57:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what does that mean? That he’s\Ninfallible, so the Protestant world Dialogue: 0,0:57:30.85,0:57:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has given up Protestantism.\N“Churches ‘should hold seances’” Dialogue: 0,0:57:37.18,0:57:42.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes, who said that? This was the\NAnglican Church in England, now Dialogue: 0,0:57:42.85,0:57:46.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we’re ready for spiritism in the\Nchurch, the churches are really Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.35,0:57:52.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,falling! Falling! These are no\Nlonger prophetic words, these are Dialogue: 0,0:57:52.32,0:57:56.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,false prophetic words,\Nthese are false prophets. Dialogue: 0,0:57:56.08,0:58:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They are preaching a lie.\NAnd in the next lecture it will Dialogue: 0,0:58:00.48,0:58:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,become abundantly clear what is\Nhappening – don’t miss the next Dialogue: 0,0:58:05.42,0:58:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lecture, Strange Fire.\NWe’ll see some videos which will Dialogue: 0,0:58:10.08,0:58:16.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,be astounding. So, he said, what\Nthis Anglican priest said is that Dialogue: 0,0:58:16.25,0:58:20.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can actually talk to the deceased,\Nand maybe we can reach Dialogue: 0,0:58:20.98,0:58:24.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the atheists who died from the\Nother side, and convince them now Dialogue: 0,0:58:24.98,0:58:29.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you see there after all, you\Ndon’t have to be an atheist anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:58:29.98,0:58:34.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that theology was true,\Ncouldn’t God do it? Dialogue: 0,0:58:34.52,0:58:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Roman Catholic Controversy,\NJames R. White, he’s a writer who Dialogue: 0,0:58:40.15,0:58:44.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,says that “Today, well,\Nare we coming together? Dialogue: 0,0:58:44.18,0:58:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are many reasons\Nwhy we should stay separate” Dialogue: 0,0:58:46.78,0:58:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he sees the problems.\NThe Council of Trent said, Dialogue: 0,0:58:50.42,0:58:54.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“to check unbridled spirits, it\Ndecrees that no one relying on his Dialogue: 0,0:58:54.95,0:58:58.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,own judgment shall, in matters of\Nfaith and morals pertaining to the Dialogue: 0,0:58:58.55,0:59:02.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,edification of Christian doctrine,\Ndistorting the Holy Scriptures in Dialogue: 0,0:59:02.12,0:59:05.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accordance with his own\Nconceptions, presume to interpret Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.28,0:59:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them contrary to that sense which\Nholy mother Church, to whom it Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.82,0:59:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,belongs to judge of their true\Nsense and interpretation, has held Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.52,0:59:16.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and holds,” so only the church may\Ntell you what to believe, you’re Dialogue: 0,0:59:16.68,0:59:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,goyim, you’re too stupid to\Nunderstand it yourself. Interesting. Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.48,0:59:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The papacy, has it changed?\NNo, “refinement of evil” Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.38,0:59:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the Pope outlines that every\Nsingle ancient doctrine held by Dialogue: 0,0:59:30.82,0:59:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Rome will be held. Therefore can I\Nbe part of the ecumenical movement, Dialogue: 0,0:59:35.78,0:59:41.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes or no? I cannot be, because I\Ncannot accept this as my spiritual Dialogue: 0,0:59:41.52,0:59:48.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leader. I have one leader and his\Nname happens to be Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:59:48.08,0:59:52.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He’s the only leader I have, and I\Nhave one creed, and that creed Dialogue: 0,0:59:52.22,0:59:56.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happens to be the Bible and the\NBible alone. That’s my creed, Dialogue: 0,0:59:56.75,1:00:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,otherwise I have no standard\Nwhatsoever. “Keeper of the Straight Dialogue: 0,1:00:00.62,1:00:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Narrow” there’s Cardinal\NRatzinger, German-born Cardinal Dialogue: 0,1:00:04.35,1:00:07.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joseph Ratzinger, head of the\N“Congregation for Doctrine and Dialogue: 0,1:00:07.68,1:00:12.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Faith.” They make sure that every\Nancient Catholic doctrine remains Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.82,1:00:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that no Protestant even\Nrecognizes it, they’re so sneaky. Dialogue: 0,1:00:18.52,1:00:26.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here is Cardinal Küng, and these\Npeople Hans Küng, all they want to Dialogue: 0,1:00:26.42,1:00:30.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do is bring about ecumenism.\NSo they make lots of Protestant Dialogue: 0,1:00:30.72,1:00:35.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,noises, didn’t the Jesuits say that\N“if you want to win someone, make Dialogue: 0,1:00:35.32,1:00:40.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his noises,” yes or no?\NYes, don’t trust them one little bit. Dialogue: 0,1:00:40.35,1:00:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By 1986 we had the Council of\NAssisi and all the religions of the Dialogue: 0,1:00:45.98,1:00:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world were present. That included\NIslam, Hinduism, all these Dialogue: 0,1:00:50.82,1:00:56.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religions; they all came together\Nat Assisi, there’s the Pope, there Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.05,1:01:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are the patriarchs, there’s Runcy,\Nthere’s the Dalai Lama, Hinduism, Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.22,1:01:07.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Buddhism, every single thing was\Npresent, where? At Assisi. Dialogue: 0,1:01:07.55,1:01:11.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you know what’s interesting?\NAfter the Council of Assisi there Dialogue: 0,1:01:11.62,1:01:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came an earthquake, and\Nthe whole Cathedral collapsed, Dialogue: 0,1:01:17.52,1:01:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it’s almost like God said “gyt bmph”\Nguess what they did, they Dialogue: 0,1:01:25.42,1:01:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,instantly rebuilt it to its former\Nglory; instantly, immediately it Dialogue: 0,1:01:31.42,1:01:38.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stands as an icon to Assisi, and\Nthat this Assisi meeting in ’86, Dialogue: 0,1:01:38.55,1:01:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the first rot started of accepting\Nthe papacy as the ultimate. Dialogue: 0,1:01:44.08,1:01:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By 1999 this is what happened,\NUnited Nations of Faith moved Dialogue: 0,1:01:48.65,1:01:51.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Mountains. Article appeared in a\NBelgian national newspaper “Le Soir”, Dialogue: 0,1:01:51.98,1:01:56.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dated 30th August 2000.\N“A general rehearsal is taking Dialogue: 0,1:01:56.38,1:01:59.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place at the highest level, in a\Nforum where the Supreme Being, Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.78,1:02:03.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,grand architect, - that’s Masonic\Nlanguage - or watchmaker of the Dialogue: 0,1:02:03.42,1:02:07.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,universe, if he exists at all –\Nthey’re derogatory – is to Dialogue: 0,1:02:07.12,1:02:10.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,recognize his own…” at a time when\Nthe United Nations will shortly Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.12,1:02:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,host the summit of the millennium,\Nwith the presence of the heads of Dialogue: 0,1:02:14.22,1:02:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,state of the entire world, all the\Nworld’s religious leaders have been Dialogue: 0,1:02:19.65,1:02:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gathering in New York”\Nhow much of the world’s religious Dialogue: 0,1:02:23.22,1:02:29.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,leaders? All “to discuss the most\Nimportant theme of world peace and Dialogue: 0,1:02:29.35,1:02:34.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tolerance.” “The more distant\Nobject: to create a kind of United Dialogue: 0,1:02:34.62,1:02:38.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nations of Faith”.\N“Where the representatives of faith Dialogue: 0,1:02:38.22,1:02:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and philosophies could meet\Nand in order to discuss the future Dialogue: 0,1:02:41.18,1:02:46.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together, whilst abandoning their\Nfatwas, theses, and other terrible Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.85,1:02:51.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arms of excommunication and\Nexclusion and relegating them to Dialogue: 0,1:02:51.38,1:02:55.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the cloak room.” Let’s get away\Nfrom our separateness, let’s come Dialogue: 0,1:02:55.92,1:03:00.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together. “This is a very noble\N‘ecumenical initiative’,” Dialogue: 0,1:03:00.55,1:03:06.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sponsored by whom? “Ted Turner,”\NA 33 degree Freemason, who hates Dialogue: 0,1:03:06.58,1:03:10.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christianity, who funded the\Ninitiative. He is vice-president of Dialogue: 0,1:03:10.42,1:03:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Time Warner, founder of CNN. And\N“for every sin there is grace: ten Dialogue: 0,1:03:14.32,1:03:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years ago, the flamboyant boss\Nof instantaneous television Dialogue: 0,1:03:18.15,1:03:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had declared that Christianity was\Nnothing but an affair for ‘losers Dialogue: 0,1:03:21.28,1:03:25.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and freaks’…” Ok, so he still\Nbelieves it, now why would Ted Dialogue: 0,1:03:25.35,1:03:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Turner finance something like that?\NBecause he says Jane Fonda, his Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.05,1:03:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wife turned Christian, and that\Nchanged his mind? I don’t think so. Dialogue: 0,1:03:34.18,1:03:37.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it’s because he’s a 33\Ndegree Freemason, and they have an Dialogue: 0,1:03:37.85,1:03:44.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,agenda. Well, “2000 representatives\Nof very well, or less known Dialogue: 0,1:03:44.32,1:03:47.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religions, the ones which are\Npracticed the world over, or which Dialogue: 0,1:03:47.75,1:03:50.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are almost an affair of confidence,\Nonly known in the corridors of the Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.88,1:03:56.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,UN, or the spiffing Waldorf Astoria\Nhotel, which will be used for the Dialogue: 0,1:03:56.25,1:04:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subsequent meetings and work.\NThe pope sent the African cardinal Dialogue: 0,1:04:00.45,1:04:04.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Francis Arzine, president of the\Npontifical council for interfaith Dialogue: 0,1:04:04.88,1:04:09.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dialogue, representing the Jewish\Nfaith was the Chief Rabbi Lau of Dialogue: 0,1:04:09.75,1:04:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jerusalem, the Buddhists were\Ndeprived of the presence of the Dialogue: 0,1:04:12.62,1:04:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dalai Lama. This shows that\Nreligion is never far removed from Dialogue: 0,1:04:16.35,1:04:19.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,politics: China threatened to\Nboycott the meeting if he went.” Dialogue: 0,1:04:19.42,1:04:21.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s just a game they’re playing. Dialogue: 0,1:04:21.45,1:04:25.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, the initiative,\N“Bishop Desmond Tutu” Dialogue: 0,1:04:25.05,1:04:29.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,said, let’s go ahead with it, and\N“in the US and in particular in Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.48,1:04:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,circles of the UN, the “first”\Ninitiative has been very welcomed. Dialogue: 0,1:04:33.38,1:04:38.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nevertheless, one needs to\Nrender to Caesar, or rather to Dialogue: 0,1:04:38.85,1:04:44.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John-Paul II, his dues. It is indeed\Nthanks to him that the way of Dialogue: 0,1:04:44.08,1:04:48.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reconciliation was\Nstarted at Assisi in 1985.” Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.18,1:04:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Culminating in that meeting in 1986.\NWell the Pope then May 2001 Dialogue: 0,1:04:55.18,1:04:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visited the famous Mosque in\NDamascus, “John Paul II made Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.98,1:05:03.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,history on Sunday by becoming\Nthe first Pontiff ever to enter a Dialogue: 0,1:05:03.35,1:05:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mosque, and urged Christians and\NMuslims to forgive each other.” Dialogue: 0,1:05:07.85,1:05:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s the mosque,\Nremember I showed it to you; Dialogue: 0,1:05:10.38,1:05:18.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the famous mosque in Damascus,\Nand we walked through it. Dialogue: 0,1:05:18.08,1:05:26.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, we look at this amazing\Nstructure with these people having Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.52,1:05:31.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the same rituals as in Roman\NCatholicism, and you will remember Dialogue: 0,1:05:31.75,1:05:36.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we spoke about the head of\NJohn the Baptist that is stored in Dialogue: 0,1:05:36.25,1:05:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this mosque. So it’s significant\Nthat the Pope went to that Dialogue: 0,1:05:39.78,1:05:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,particular mosque to go\Nand seek reconciliation. Dialogue: 0,1:05:44.88,1:05:48.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Although reconciliation is just a\Nword for the goyim, the outside; Dialogue: 0,1:05:48.68,1:05:54.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the inside has always been\Nreconciled. And we know already Dialogue: 0,1:05:54.58,1:05:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the pope then kissed the Koran.\NSo the initiative is to bring all Dialogue: 0,1:05:58.82,1:06:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the religions, this is a symbol of\Nthe religions dancing together, a Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.58,1:06:09.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,symbol of Judaism, and Buddhism,\Nand Christianity, and Hinduism and Dialogue: 0,1:06:09.15,1:06:13.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all of them coming together in a\None great big happy family. Dialogue: 0,1:06:13.75,1:06:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is the title page of Rotarian\NBishop Lehman’s document for Dialogue: 0,1:06:17.75,1:06:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“World Peace Day” and the emblem of\Nthe “World Conference of Religions.” Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.18,1:06:28.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hinduism, Buddhism, and\Nfinally we have a parliament Dialogue: 0,1:06:28.45,1:06:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of world religions; now this\Nparliament of world religions is an Dialogue: 0,1:06:33.42,1:06:39.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outcome of the Assisi meeting,\Nand this was their Africa day; Dialogue: 0,1:06:39.85,1:06:42.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they have the sun symbol in the\Nmiddle, there are interesting Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.75,1:06:47.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,symbols in this. So at this\Ninterfaith meeting in 1999, Dialogue: 0,1:06:47.82,1:06:51.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“as reported the Associated Press,\Nwith the Dalai Lama, sitting by his Dialogue: 0,1:06:51.78,1:06:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right side, this October [1999]”\Nthere was another meeting Dialogue: 0,1:06:56.78,1:07:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“in Rome the Pope presided at\Na special council of some 2000 Dialogue: 0,1:07:01.22,1:07:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,religious leaders of various\Nfaiths, sects, and cults.” Dialogue: 0,1:07:05.65,1:07:09.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now I’m going to show you a video of\Nthat in a moment of what happened there. Dialogue: 0,1:07:09.78,1:07:13.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The Pontiff told the assembled\NBuddhist monks, Zoroastrian Dialogue: 0,1:07:13.25,1:07:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,priests, Catholic cardinals, Hindu\Ngurus, American Indian shamen, Dialogue: 0,1:07:17.72,1:07:21.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jewish rabbis, and ecumenical\Nclergy” that’s all the Protestants Dialogue: 0,1:07:21.68,1:07:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that there are, “that all must join\Nin condemning” who? Dialogue: 0,1:07:27.82,1:07:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“The Christian fundamentalists”\Nwow, I thought the problems were Dialogue: 0,1:07:33.32,1:07:37.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,elsewhere, but he obviously has an\Ninside tact so he knows who the Dialogue: 0,1:07:37.68,1:07:43.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,real problem people are.\NIt’s the Christian fundamentalists, why? Dialogue: 0,1:07:43.08,1:07:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because they commit the ultimate\Ncrime of telling people about who? Dialogue: 0,1:07:48.12,1:07:49.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus. Dialogue: 0,1:07:49.65,1:07:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Don’t you think there’s a total\Nonslaught on Jesus Christ? Dialogue: 0,1:07:52.78,1:07:55.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I believe there is. Dialogue: 0,1:07:55.48,1:08:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Christian fundamentalists who\N‘abuse speech’ and whose efforts at Dialogue: 0,1:08:00.42,1:08:04.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,converting others ‘incite\Nhatred and violence.’” Dialogue: 0,1:08:04.35,1:08:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Didn’t Miss Kyung say the\Nsame thing, yes or no? Dialogue: 0,1:08:10.35,1:08:13.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She said the same thing at the\NWorld Council of Churches. Dialogue: 0,1:08:13.92,1:08:18.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we want unity, but please let\Nthis unity be on a universal Dialogue: 0,1:08:18.22,1:08:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Christ, just leave Jesus out of this.\NThis is an attack on Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,1:08:25.62,1:08:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“All present were in accord\Non two key points: (1) Pope John Dialogue: 0,1:08:31.42,1:08:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Paul II was endorsed by consensus\Nas the planet’s chief spiritual Dialogue: 0,1:08:36.68,1:08:42.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guide and overseer;” that’s\Ninteresting. “And (2) Religious Dialogue: 0,1:08:42.62,1:08:46.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fundamentalists who refuse to go\Nalong with the global ecumenical Dialogue: 0,1:08:46.15,1:08:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement” that would include me\Nfor example, “are to be silenced.” Dialogue: 0,1:08:53.72,1:08:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So who knows how many times\Nyou can still hear this message, Dialogue: 0,1:08:56.82,1:09:01.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“they must be denounced as\N‘dangerous extremists full of hate.’” Dialogue: 0,1:09:01.32,1:09:02.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,(True bible believers denounced\Nat Papal Conference. Dialogue: 0,1:09:02.52,1:09:03.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Power of Prophecy (March 2000, Vol.\N2000-03, p. 3). Dialogue: 0,1:09:03.55,1:09:07.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That’s why we have hate laws,\Nyou’re not supposed to preach this Dialogue: 0,1:09:07.42,1:09:11.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,message, you’re not supposed to\Npreach that Jesus Christ is Lord, Dialogue: 0,1:09:11.48,1:09:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then you are a dangerous extremist\Nfull of hate. Well I figured I better Dialogue: 0,1:09:16.38,1:09:19.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preach it before we\Ncan no longer preach it. Dialogue: 0,1:09:19.85,1:09:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that’s why I’m here to tell\Nyou about these things. Dialogue: 0,1:09:22.52,1:09:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The onslaught is not against me,\Nthe onslaught is against the Lord. Dialogue: 0,1:09:25.98,1:09:28.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he predicted that\Nthis was going to happen. Dialogue: 0,1:09:28.72,1:09:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well let’s have a look at this\NMasonic meeting, you will see three Dialogue: 0,1:09:32.18,1:09:36.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,candles in this meeting, that’s\NMasonic. They light the solar Dialogue: 0,1:09:36.88,1:09:40.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,candles, which are little covered\Ncandles, which are used in Hinduism Dialogue: 0,1:09:40.98,1:09:44.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for example as solar candles, and\Nin Buddhism and in Eastern Dialogue: 0,1:09:44.05,1:09:50.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mysticism. And you will see that\Nthey use all kinds of music, just Dialogue: 0,1:09:50.02,1:09:54.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like the Bible said. In fact the\Nmain rock band of Italy gave the Dialogue: 0,1:09:54.78,1:09:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,background music at the ceremony on\Nthe one stage with the papacy on Dialogue: 0,1:09:59.02,1:10:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the other stage. And ever religious\Nleader of note in the world was Dialogue: 0,1:10:03.02,1:10:08.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there of every religion to bow down\Nand give homage to the pope. Dialogue: 0,1:10:08.45,1:10:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Interesting, let’s watch it. Dialogue: 0,1:11:35.12,1:11:37.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He looks so smug doesn’t he? Dialogue: 0,1:11:37.65,1:11:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well here they all are, Islam,\NHinduism, Buddhism, Shintuism, Dialogue: 0,1:11:43.58,1:11:47.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Soca Gaya, all of them,\NProtestantism, all of them bowing Dialogue: 0,1:11:47.45,1:11:51.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down acknowledging the pope.\NNow didn’t the Bible say that the Dialogue: 0,1:11:51.28,1:11:56.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole world would wonder after him,\Nyes or no? And that she would not Dialogue: 0,1:11:56.42,1:11:59.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suffer loss of children,\Ndidn’t the Bible say that? Dialogue: 0,1:11:59.22,1:12:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Judaism was there, all\Nthe religions were there. Dialogue: 0,1:12:03.52,1:12:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now this means that we are very\Nvery close to the close of time. Dialogue: 0,1:12:10.72,1:12:13.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is an interesting picture\Nthat was published once by Der Dialogue: 0,1:12:13.45,1:12:20.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Spiegel, Der Spiegel, and here you\Nhave a statue of Caesar showing a Dialogue: 0,1:12:20.72,1:12:25.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,finger; that’s actually a Masonic thing,\Nbut never mind there he does it. Dialogue: 0,1:12:25.22,1:12:29.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you have Mussolini on the\Nother side giving the finger. Dialogue: 0,1:12:29.88,1:12:34.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then they have Rom here,\N“Der Papst, Die Kirche Und Die Dialogue: 0,1:12:34.08,1:12:39.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sunde” the Pope, the Church, and\Nthe Sin, and they have the Pope Dialogue: 0,1:12:39.02,1:12:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over there in full sun worship\Nregalia; and then they have the Dialogue: 0,1:12:43.62,1:12:48.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prostitute. It’s almost like they\Nknow something right? Dialogue: 0,1:12:48.35,1:12:53.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This prostitute, the Bible says,\Nis the woman that rides the beast, Dialogue: 0,1:12:53.92,1:12:59.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the great prostituted that is over\Nthe nations; and all the kings of Dialogue: 0,1:12:59.95,1:13:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world give their power unto the\Nbeast. We’ve seen that the ruling Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.42,1:13:09.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,powers in the world actually come\Nfrom very few families today, Dialogue: 0,1:13:09.92,1:13:15.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,highly occult families. “And the\Nwoman which thou sawest is Dialogue: 0,1:13:15.25,1:13:18.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that great city, which reigneth\Nover the kings of the earth.” Dialogue: 0,1:13:18.75,1:13:23.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Revelation 17:18. “And I heard\Nanother voice from heaven, saying, Dialogue: 0,1:13:23.92,1:13:28.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Come out of her, my people that ye\Nbe not partakers of her sins, and Dialogue: 0,1:13:28.85,1:13:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that ye receive not of her plagues.”\NRevelations 18:4. Dialogue: 0,1:13:33.58,1:13:39.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you think they have\Nplanned for those who harbor a Dialogue: 0,1:13:39.22,1:13:42.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spirit of separateness?\NWhat do you think they have Dialogue: 0,1:13:42.98,1:13:47.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,planned for those who say,\Nwho say, like the Bible says: Dialogue: 0,1:13:47.08,1:13:52.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,“Come out and be separate\Nthat you receive not her plagues,” Dialogue: 0,1:13:52.65,1:13:57.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that you don’t take part in her\Nsins. What do you think will be Dialogue: 0,1:13:57.55,1:14:02.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their conclusion about such a\Nmatter? I think this is a very very Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.85,1:14:07.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,serious issue, and we’re going to\Nhave lectures on this when we get Dialogue: 0,1:14:07.52,1:14:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there. We’ll see what their final\Nplans are, and who they actually Dialogue: 0,1:14:13.12,1:14:20.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pinpoint as opposition, that would\Nbe interesting, don’t you think? Dialogue: 0,1:14:20.55,1:14:24.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We’ll let them speak for themselves,\Nin the meantime as for Dialogue: 0,1:14:24.88,1:14:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me and my house, I cannot join this\Necumenical council, and I would Dialogue: 0,1:14:31.58,1:14:37.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like to uplift Jesus Christ to you\Ntonight as the only Savior on this Dialogue: 0,1:14:37.18,1:14:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,world and follow the biblical\Nway and none will be lost. Dialogue: 0,1:14:43.62,1:14:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is his promise, why not\Ntake him at his word? Amen.