1 00:00:55,650 --> 00:01:02,009 That All May Be One 2 00:01:05,683 --> 00:01:09,383 The title of this lecture is That All May Be One, 3 00:01:09,383 --> 00:01:13,649 and we have dealt in the last few lectures with the political aspects, 4 00:01:13,650 --> 00:01:17,783 and tonight I want to start with the religious aspects. 5 00:01:17,783 --> 00:01:23,783 The Vatican II meetings, Vatican II, the Pope is beeing 6 00:01:23,783 --> 00:01:27,549 carried in during that meeting, and at that meeting it was 7 00:01:27,550 --> 00:01:33,750 decided that the churches, the Protestant churches, 8 00:01:33,750 --> 00:01:40,283 may remain in their confessions and obtain salvation, provided of course, 9 00:01:40,283 --> 00:01:46,583 that they accept and acknowledge the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome. 10 00:01:46,583 --> 00:01:52,283 Now after Vatican II, it was Karl Rahner, the Jesuit, strange how 11 00:01:52,283 --> 00:01:56,416 they keep popping up, I know I’m saying this frequently, but it’s 12 00:01:56,416 --> 00:02:01,116 just a fact. He was the one who was commissioned to take this message 13 00:02:01,116 --> 00:02:05,216 to the world that everyone could remain in their confession, 14 00:02:05,216 --> 00:02:09,882 provided they acknowledge the supremacy of the Bishop of Rome. 15 00:02:09,883 --> 00:02:12,216 And I’ve already dealt with this, but I’m going to go into a little 16 00:02:12,216 --> 00:02:20,549 bit more detail now, Paul Knitter, who was held a position at Xavier 17 00:02:20,550 --> 00:02:25,083 University, Cincinnati, where he is Professor of Theology, he studied 18 00:02:25,083 --> 00:02:30,049 under Karl Rahner, and he wrote this book, “No Other name?” 19 00:02:30,050 --> 00:02:35,650 And in this book, “No Other Name?” he writes certain interesting 20 00:02:35,650 --> 00:02:40,550 things, here’s a commentary on it, it’s interesting that they have a 21 00:02:40,550 --> 00:02:47,416 this little humanist man over there on the book, tells us its humanism. 22 00:02:47,416 --> 00:02:50,849 He writes, “Faces the conundrum of what the committed Christian 23 00:02:50,850 --> 00:02:55,250 believer does theologically in face of the growing evidence, scholarly 24 00:02:55,250 --> 00:02:58,316 and from personal encounter, that there are other ways, religious 25 00:02:58,316 --> 00:03:04,249 ways, of leading a full, authentic human life, than the Christian way.” 26 00:03:04,250 --> 00:03:09,750 Are you beginning to see something? “Can a person be saved,” 27 00:03:09,750 --> 00:03:15,550 definition, “that is, come to live a truly human life, by some other 28 00:03:15,550 --> 00:03:20,950 name than that of Jesus Christ?” Hello, let me just recap there, to 29 00:03:20,950 --> 00:03:24,650 be saved means to live a truly human life, is that correct 30 00:03:24,650 --> 00:03:29,683 theology? This is a professor of theology, and this book is 31 00:03:29,683 --> 00:03:32,649 virtually prescribed in all seminaries of theology in the 32 00:03:32,650 --> 00:03:38,050 entire world. “Knitter’s answer is one can be ‘saved’ by ‘some other 33 00:03:38,050 --> 00:03:44,183 name,’ and then he proceeds to show how this affirmation can be squared 34 00:03:44,183 --> 00:03:49,016 theologically with a full Christian commitment. This is first-rate 35 00:03:49,016 --> 00:03:53,449 creative theology” that’s the only sentence I agree with. 36 00:03:53,450 --> 00:04:00,083 It is creative theology, but it’s definitely not biblical theology. 37 00:04:00,083 --> 00:04:04,416 Well, at the second ecumenical council, if the Bible isn’t going 38 00:04:04,416 --> 00:04:08,149 to be the norm, we’ll have to replace it with something else. 39 00:04:08,150 --> 00:04:15,050 And it was decided in document 515 – of page 515 of the ecumenical 40 00:04:15,050 --> 00:04:18,983 documents that were written at Vatican II documents. 41 00:04:18,983 --> 00:04:22,183 “Unity of all Christians may at last be restored and shine forth, 42 00:04:22,183 --> 00:04:26,283 for all peoples are called to be a single new people, confessing one 43 00:04:26,283 --> 00:04:29,516 Jesus, Savior and Lord, professing one faith, celebrating one 44 00:04:29,516 --> 00:04:33,982 Eucharistic mystery.” There are lots of problems with there in this 45 00:04:33,983 --> 00:04:37,649 particular one, particularly the Eucharistic mystery. 46 00:04:37,650 --> 00:04:40,383 “All Christians should be of an ecumenical mind,” 47 00:04:40,383 --> 00:04:46,116 Documents of Vatican II. P. 515. The Catholic Catechism will tell us 48 00:04:46,116 --> 00:04:51,716 that Vatican II did not change the doctrines; it only appeared to 49 00:04:51,716 --> 00:04:55,582 change the doctrines. This is the present Catechism of the Catholic 50 00:04:55,583 --> 00:04:59,316 Church, article 816, “The sole Church of Christ which 51 00:04:59,316 --> 00:05:03,049 our Savior, after his Resurrection, entrusted to Peter’s pastoral care, 52 00:05:03,050 --> 00:05:05,650 commissioning him and the other apostles to extend and rule it… 53 00:05:05,650 --> 00:05:08,783 This Church, constituted and organized as a society in the 54 00:05:08,783 --> 00:05:13,949 present world, subsists in the Catholic Church… The Second Vatican 55 00:05:13,950 --> 00:05:17,716 Council’s Decree on Ecumenism explains: “For it is through 56 00:05:17,716 --> 00:05:22,182 Christ’s Catholic Church alone, which is the universal help towards 57 00:05:22,183 --> 00:05:27,083 salvation, that the fullness of the means of salvation can be obtained.” 58 00:05:27,083 --> 00:05:31,283 There’s been no change in doctrine, only Protestants believe that there 59 00:05:31,283 --> 00:05:36,883 has been a change of doctrine. Wounds to unity, article 817, 60 00:05:36,883 --> 00:05:41,683 “Where there are sins, there are also divisions, schisms, heresies,” 61 00:05:41,683 --> 00:05:48,183 so if there was a division, then it was sin, so who’s the sinner? 62 00:05:48,183 --> 00:05:53,183 The one who separated. Towards unity, 63 00:05:53,183 --> 00:05:56,983 “Christ bestowed unity on his Church from the beginning” 64 00:05:56,983 --> 00:06:02,216 and this is something the church can never lose, 820. 65 00:06:02,216 --> 00:06:07,582 It didn’t change. It still governs – rules the church through its 66 00:06:07,583 --> 00:06:12,216 Supreme Pontiffs and Bishops, everybody will have to acknowledge 67 00:06:12,216 --> 00:06:15,316 this. This is why Priest J. Cornell says, 68 00:06:15,316 --> 00:06:19,182 “The final object of ecumenism, as Catholics conceive it, is unity in 69 00:06:19,183 --> 00:06:21,416 Faith, worship, and the acknowledgement of supreme 70 00:06:21,416 --> 00:06:26,716 spiritual authority of the Bishop of Rome.” That’s the bottom line. 71 00:06:26,716 --> 00:06:30,216 “The Church’s bond with non-Christian religions” – 72 00:06:30,216 --> 00:06:35,816 “all nations form but one community. ” They want the same relations with 73 00:06:35,816 --> 00:06:39,716 Moslems, with all the other religions. Let’s make sure that 74 00:06:39,716 --> 00:06:42,582 this is true, this was the Catechism, it can’t be wrong; 75 00:06:42,583 --> 00:06:45,549 Further Questions Answered, Bonaventure Hinwood OFM, 76 00:06:45,550 --> 00:06:48,916 “Vatican II teaches in several places that the Catholic Church, 77 00:06:48,916 --> 00:06:54,149 and it alone, is the Church founded by Jesus Christ” no change 78 00:06:54,150 --> 00:06:59,150 in the Vatican II documentation. Then September 5, 2000, 79 00:06:59,150 --> 00:07:02,850 the Vatican made this quite clear, the church’s examined the 80 00:07:02,850 --> 00:07:06,450 Vatican statement, 36 page statement said other Christians 81 00:07:06,450 --> 00:07:09,150 communities, such as Anglicans or other Protestants, 82 00:07:09,150 --> 00:07:14,350 “are not churches in the proper sense.” Canon David Oliver, 83 00:07:14,350 --> 00:07:17,383 minister of St. Thomas’s Anglican Church, says, oh well, it’s oh, 84 00:07:17,383 --> 00:07:22,916 it’s ok, whatever. “Other Churches are no sisters of ours, the Vatican 85 00:07:22,916 --> 00:07:24,416 insists” September 5, 2000 “The Independent.” 86 00:07:24,416 --> 00:07:26,249 And remember that Ratzinger said [Walter Veith said, Karl Rahner said] 87 00:07:26,250 --> 00:07:28,483 “It must be always clear that the one, holy, catholic 88 00:07:28,483 --> 00:07:31,216 and apostolic universal church is not the sister, but the mother of 89 00:07:31,216 --> 00:07:34,482 all the churches.” So that’s the latest statement, definitive 90 00:07:34,483 --> 00:07:39,016 statement, from the highest sources in the Vatican, Vatican II changed 91 00:07:39,016 --> 00:07:43,049 nothing. These are some of the comments of the other churches, 92 00:07:43,050 --> 00:07:46,816 “church’s are stunned by Pope’s attack, Protestant churches express 93 00:07:46,816 --> 00:07:50,782 disappointment, etc.” Nothing changed, they were still in the 94 00:07:50,783 --> 00:07:55,883 ecumenical movement. The Washington Post said, “A new Vatican dictum 95 00:07:55,883 --> 00:07:59,783 issued today declares that individuals can attain full 96 00:07:59,783 --> 00:08:04,149 salvation from earthly sin only through the spiritual grace of the 97 00:08:04,150 --> 00:08:09,116 Catholic Church and that other faiths – including Protestant 98 00:08:09,116 --> 00:08:13,482 Christian ones -- have defects that place their followers in a ‘gravely 99 00:08:13,483 --> 00:08:16,816 deficient situation’.” And that includes Moslems, 100 00:08:16,816 --> 00:08:21,782 Hindu’s, Jews, everyone; they have to accept Catholicism as 101 00:08:21,783 --> 00:08:25,283 leader, that’s what the Vatican teaches. Now how are you going to 102 00:08:25,283 --> 00:08:30,116 this if the Bible so clearly condemned Catholicism? 103 00:08:30,116 --> 00:08:34,282 Well Vatican II and the Sunday, again the documents, Vatican II, 104 00:08:34,283 --> 00:08:38,416 “Any endeavor that seeks to make Sunday a genuine ‘day of joy and 105 00:08:38,416 --> 00:08:39,816 rest from work’ should be encouraged.” Documents of Vatican II. 106 00:08:39,816 --> 00:08:43,249 We must celebrate the “Paschal Mystery” it must be the 107 00:08:43,250 --> 00:08:47,683 “primordial feast” day. There must be freedom from work, 108 00:08:47,683 --> 00:08:52,549 “shall not have precedence over Sunday,” all feasts are important. 109 00:08:52,550 --> 00:08:56,250 Then it says “the supreme manifestation of this is the Sunday 110 00:08:56,250 --> 00:09:01,416 assembly.” So again, Vatican II reiterated that Sunday was the day 111 00:09:01,416 --> 00:09:05,249 that was to be kept. And they call it the Lord’s day, and in their 112 00:09:05,250 --> 00:09:10,750 Catechism, article 2174, they admit that “we all gather on the day of 113 00:09:10,750 --> 00:09:16,150 the sun, for it is the first day [after the Jewish Sabbath]” 114 00:09:16,150 --> 00:09:19,983 there’s no such thing as a Jewish Sabbath! The Sabbath was instituted 115 00:09:19,983 --> 00:09:26,983 in Eden long before there was a Jew. Now, Sunday “in Christ’s Passover, 116 00:09:26,983 --> 00:09:30,349 Sunday fulfills the spiritual truth of the Jewish Sabbath and announces 117 00:09:30,350 --> 00:09:33,516 man’s eternal rest in God.” And it comes from “tradition” 118 00:09:33,516 --> 00:09:37,716 this all stands in their catechism, I’m not going to go into the detail. 119 00:09:37,716 --> 00:09:40,516 So now if you’re not going to have the Bible as basis, 120 00:09:40,516 --> 00:09:44,682 then you better give the people something else. “Music celebrations” 121 00:09:44,683 --> 00:09:48,783 this is page 83, Vatican documents, “actively participate 122 00:09:48,783 --> 00:09:52,916 more willingly… format of the celebration and the degree of 123 00:09:52,916 --> 00:09:56,616 participation in it should be varies as much as possible.” 124 00:09:56,616 --> 00:10:00,116 “The liturgy,” now the liturgy is everything that happens in the 125 00:10:00,116 --> 00:10:04,549 church beside the sermon, “marvelously increases their 126 00:10:04,550 --> 00:10:08,550 (church members) power to preach Christ” so now let’s put more 127 00:10:08,550 --> 00:10:13,816 emphasis on the liturgy, and less emphasis on the what? 128 00:10:13,816 --> 00:10:15,649 The preaching. 129 00:10:15,650 --> 00:10:20,450 And they even call it in some documents the “holy liturgy”. 130 00:10:20,450 --> 00:10:24,783 “A sign lifted up among nation” and to gather the children that 131 00:10:24,783 --> 00:10:27,716 are “scattered until there is one fold, one shepherd.” 132 00:10:27,716 --> 00:10:31,449 Of course that has to be the Pope. How are we going to do this? 133 00:10:31,450 --> 00:10:36,683 This is Vatican II, their documentation, Documents of Vatican II, quote 134 00:10:36,683 --> 00:10:39,516 “In all popular devotions the psalms will be especially 135 00:10:39,516 --> 00:10:43,382 useful, and also works of sacred music drawn from both the old and 136 00:10:43,383 --> 00:10:47,316 the more recent heritage of sacred music, popular religious songs, 137 00:10:47,316 --> 00:10:50,949 organ, other instruments characteristic of a particular 138 00:10:50,950 --> 00:10:53,516 people.” (p. 91). “The participation in the Celebration 139 00:10:53,516 --> 00:10:55,649 should be internal, but “Must be, on the other hand, 140 00:10:55,650 --> 00:11:01,216 external also… internal participation by gestures and 141 00:11:01,216 --> 00:11:05,782 bodily attitudes, by the acclamations, responses and singing. 142 00:11:05,783 --> 00:11:11,316 ” In other words, Vatican II says, “let’s make the service lively, 143 00:11:11,316 --> 00:11:15,449 let’s start moving, let’s have some bodily attitudes, let’s shake the 144 00:11:15,450 --> 00:11:20,183 arms,” you know; then it’s not so important whether you have your 145 00:11:20,183 --> 00:11:22,416 Bible, in fact it’s hard to hold your Bible if your arms are 146 00:11:22,416 --> 00:11:27,082 swinging around like cartwheels. How must the songs be? 147 00:11:27,083 --> 00:11:30,849 Let’s go again to the Catechism. Article 1157, 148 00:11:30,850 --> 00:11:33,616 “Song and music fulfill their function as signs in a manner all 149 00:11:33,616 --> 00:11:36,382 the more significant” that’s fine, there’s nothing wrong with singing, 150 00:11:36,383 --> 00:11:39,383 singing must be beautiful and to the glory of God. 151 00:11:39,383 --> 00:11:44,383 But they say that music must be emotional, quote, Vatican 152 00:11:44,383 --> 00:11:49,116 Catechism, “How I wept, deeply moved by your hymns, songs and the 153 00:11:49,116 --> 00:11:52,582 voices that echoed through your Church! What emotion I experienced 154 00:11:52,583 --> 00:11:55,183 in them! Those sounds flowed into my ears, distilling the truth in my 155 00:11:55,183 --> 00:11:59,516 heart. A feeling of devotion surged within me, and tears streamed down 156 00:11:59,516 --> 00:12:03,516 my face – tears that did me good.” So the more tears and the more 157 00:12:03,516 --> 00:12:08,049 emotion, the better; switch the mind off and switch on something 158 00:12:08,050 --> 00:12:12,916 else. And so the papacy started using pop groups, and the pope 159 00:12:12,916 --> 00:12:17,182 started singing to ‘Abba’ music, and all this sort of stuff started 160 00:12:17,183 --> 00:12:20,283 coming into the churches, which was unknown before. 161 00:12:20,283 --> 00:12:23,549 This is the Pope’s personal little rock band that goes with him 162 00:12:23,550 --> 00:12:27,116 sometimes when he travels. These days they have advanced to 163 00:12:27,116 --> 00:12:35,516 the more metal groups and all of those, and by 1967 the faculty and 164 00:12:35,516 --> 00:12:41,049 students of the Catholic Duquesme University started become 165 00:12:41,050 --> 00:12:49,350 charismatic. By 1968 the World Council of Churches had Catholics 166 00:12:49,350 --> 00:12:54,050 as observers, by 1975 there were observers in Nairobi. 167 00:12:54,050 --> 00:13:01,283 By 1975, a mass gathering took place at Rome, and Pope Paul the II 168 00:13:01,283 --> 00:13:06,116 actually started speaking in tongues. Here it is, Christianity 169 00:13:06,116 --> 00:13:10,049 Today, June 6, 1975, “Bishops, archbishops and 170 00:13:10,050 --> 00:13:13,516 cardinals, struggling to kept heir hats in place, sang and danced in 171 00:13:13,516 --> 00:13:17,016 ecstasy, embracing one another raising their arm to heaven – and 172 00:13:17,016 --> 00:13:22,449 Pope Paul VI address was punctuated with ecstatic.” 173 00:13:22,450 --> 00:13:28,883 So he started speaking in tongues, great example for the church. 174 00:13:28,883 --> 00:13:35,216 The Lutheran Church by 1974, the U. S. Lutheran – Roman Catholic Dialog 175 00:13:35,216 --> 00:13:39,049 published its: Papal Primacy and the Universal Church, they were 176 00:13:39,050 --> 00:13:43,050 beginning to play with the idea that Rome would again be the head 177 00:13:43,050 --> 00:13:47,216 of the churches. The Presbyterians, Congregationalists, Methodists, 178 00:13:47,216 --> 00:13:50,416 followed; Colin Buchanin writes that “The emergence of the church 179 00:13:50,416 --> 00:13:53,382 of Rome as a partner in ecumenical discussions, and the impact of the 180 00:13:53,383 --> 00:13:57,883 charismatic movement, has totally changed ecumenical relationships.” 181 00:13:57,883 --> 00:14:03,283 So this new spirit makes the talk between the various opposing 182 00:14:03,283 --> 00:14:08,649 factions more and more possible. By 1975 there was a common 183 00:14:08,650 --> 00:14:12,916 Catechism where the moral directives and the decalogue were 184 00:14:12,916 --> 00:14:17,016 questioned, where many passages in the New Testament were put in the 185 00:14:17,016 --> 00:14:21,582 mouth of Jesus, things that the historical Jesus never uttered. 186 00:14:21,583 --> 00:14:26,383 The physical resurrection is a problem full of difficulties, etc. 187 00:14:26,383 --> 00:14:32,316 etc, starting to question the Bible. By 1977, there was a joint 188 00:14:32,316 --> 00:14:36,316 Roman Catholic commission which issued, together with the Anglican 189 00:14:36,316 --> 00:14:39,316 Church, this statement: “It seems appropriate that in any 190 00:14:39,316 --> 00:14:43,016 future union a universal primacy such as has been described should 191 00:14:43,016 --> 00:14:45,982 be held by the Roman See.” So the Anglican Church said, 192 00:14:45,983 --> 00:14:51,349 “Ok, Pope shall be head.” By 1989 the Anglican Archbishop of 193 00:14:51,350 --> 00:14:55,550 Canterbury, the Revered Robert Runcy went to Rome and urged 194 00:14:55,550 --> 00:14:59,783 Christians to consider the primacy of the Pope. Better together. 195 00:14:59,783 --> 00:15:05,383 There they are, and then came the famous signing of the document 196 00:15:05,383 --> 00:15:09,583 where they actually signed, there is signing, the Pope and Runcy 197 00:15:09,583 --> 00:15:12,749 signed the declaration at Canterbury, and the Pope is now the 198 00:15:12,750 --> 00:15:17,450 head of these churches. And some nice Masonic signals, 199 00:15:17,450 --> 00:15:22,283 yes, they’re going to be together, and the queen, well; 200 00:15:22,283 --> 00:15:29,983 she and her entourage visit the Pope and say, well, what did Prince 201 00:15:29,983 --> 00:15:34,883 Charles say? “I do not want to longer by the protector of the 202 00:15:34,883 --> 00:15:42,083 faith, but just protector of faith.” So Protestantism goes, and of 203 00:15:42,083 --> 00:15:46,716 course much marching in the streets of the United Kingdom. 204 00:15:46,716 --> 00:15:53,516 The next Archbishop of Canterbury is Carey, and Carey is remarkable 205 00:15:53,516 --> 00:15:58,382 because of his charismatic renewal, and speaking in tongues. 206 00:15:58,383 --> 00:16:02,649 So the Anglican church the first to go Romward bound. 207 00:16:02,650 --> 00:16:07,816 Now this is the famous St. Paul’s Cathedral, there it is, a London bus, 208 00:16:07,816 --> 00:16:12,682 I photographed this myself, and this is a stunning picture, 209 00:16:12,683 --> 00:16:17,649 what do you see? What does it look like? 210 00:16:17,650 --> 00:16:22,450 It looks like a miniature of the Vatican, yes, in fact it is a 211 00:16:22,450 --> 00:16:27,783 replica of the Vatican; and the very amazing thing is that 212 00:16:27,783 --> 00:16:31,183 St. Paul’s Cathedral never looked like that. Never looked like that, 213 00:16:31,183 --> 00:16:35,549 in fact it used to look like that; but now it has been totally 214 00:16:35,550 --> 00:16:42,583 rebuilt, and it now looks like that. Doesn’t this sound remarkably like 215 00:16:42,583 --> 00:16:46,416 an image of the beast? And image of the beast? 216 00:16:46,416 --> 00:16:49,849 Well let’s go inside. You have to be very sneaky with 217 00:16:49,850 --> 00:16:54,350 your camera when you go in there. And, this is what it looks like 218 00:16:54,350 --> 00:16:58,183 now, there’s the min altar; wow, the main altar is an exact 219 00:16:58,183 --> 00:17:01,849 copy of Bernini’s canopy in Rome. 220 00:17:01,850 --> 00:17:06,383 That means the Protestant church here has copied Rome. 221 00:17:06,383 --> 00:17:10,483 Very interesting, there are the black and white squares, they have 222 00:17:10,483 --> 00:17:15,116 cupids with other angelic beings. Male-females, etc. 223 00:17:15,116 --> 00:17:18,749 and if you look at the ceiling and you photograph the top, you will 224 00:17:18,750 --> 00:17:24,215 find beautiful Masonic symbols. This is Masonry, this is not 225 00:17:24,215 --> 00:17:27,982 Church of England, so the Church of England has capitulated and has 226 00:17:27,983 --> 00:17:33,383 become part of Masonry, and therefore we could say Luciferian, 227 00:17:33,383 --> 00:17:38,016 sad but true. Well in front of the main altar there you have the 228 00:17:38,016 --> 00:17:42,082 typical solar symbols. Looking from the top, it’s like a 229 00:17:42,083 --> 00:17:46,349 witch’s cove, it’s been restructured; this is occultism. 230 00:17:46,350 --> 00:17:51,316 In fact it even has the black and white pentagram on the floor. 231 00:17:51,316 --> 00:17:55,282 And on the floor it has the symbol of the serpent with the tail in the 232 00:17:55,283 --> 00:17:58,749 mouth representing the sun and the moon, by the way those are my 233 00:17:58,750 --> 00:18:04,783 shoes, they were nice and clean. And the solar deities on the 234 00:18:04,783 --> 00:18:08,916 floor, so this is nothing other than Catholicism, here are symbols 235 00:18:08,916 --> 00:18:13,916 of New Age, these are the peacocks, symbols of Lucifer. 236 00:18:13,916 --> 00:18:20,216 The triangles in the circle, the hexagrams, and of course the 237 00:18:20,216 --> 00:18:26,716 corpses under the altar, and IHS on their – and sun blazes on their 238 00:18:26,716 --> 00:18:33,749 utilities, also the mythical pelican or the bird feeding its 239 00:18:33,750 --> 00:18:37,350 young to its flesh; these are occult symbols. 240 00:18:37,350 --> 00:18:41,450 No wonder Pope John Paul II could write in Crossing the Threshold of 241 00:18:41,450 --> 00:18:46,750 Hope, that by the year 2000, “we need to be more united.” 242 00:18:46,750 --> 00:18:50,950 “For unity, all churches must accept papal authority.” 243 00:18:50,950 --> 00:18:56,850 The Pope said in 1995. That’s the condition of unity. 244 00:18:56,850 --> 00:19:01,950 Now why did the Reformation split from Rome? Surely the Reformation 245 00:19:01,950 --> 00:19:06,450 had good reasons, biblical reason; Revelation 13:8 said, 246 00:19:06,450 --> 00:19:09,816 “And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are 247 00:19:09,816 --> 00:19:14,849 not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation 248 00:19:14,850 --> 00:19:19,750 of the world.” Well, they have surely corrupted that one in the 249 00:19:19,750 --> 00:19:23,250 modern translations, but never mind that’s what it says; 250 00:19:23,250 --> 00:19:27,250 they shall not be written in the book of life if they worship this 251 00:19:27,250 --> 00:19:34,483 system by obeying it. Here is the Dom zu Berlin, this is the Lutheran 252 00:19:34,483 --> 00:19:39,549 Mother church if you like in Germany, and there they have huge 253 00:19:39,550 --> 00:19:43,250 pictures of Mary with candles burning in front of it, there you 254 00:19:43,250 --> 00:19:49,050 have it, this is back to Rome, and the Weltbild published the picture 255 00:19:49,050 --> 00:19:55,950 of Martin Luther shaking hands with the Pope. Well in the 1980s, the 256 00:19:55,950 --> 00:20:00,883 Pope went to Mainz Germany, and he said “ecumenism is an urgent task.” 257 00:20:00,883 --> 00:20:05,249 And then “Christians forging accords for new era… Churches have 258 00:20:05,250 --> 00:20:10,616 a pact” and then the famous synod in the German, the Lutheran synod: 259 00:20:10,616 --> 00:20:15,016 “Heiβe Eisen und alte Zöpfe” these old bones of contention if 260 00:20:15,016 --> 00:20:18,316 you like, and they decided “Der Papst sall nicht 261 00:20:18,316 --> 00:20:23,449 merh…Antichrist genaimnt warden” the Pope will no longer be called 262 00:20:23,450 --> 00:20:27,950 Antichrist. Well that’s the end of the Reformation as far as Lutheran 263 00:20:27,950 --> 00:20:32,350 is concerned. Time Magazine then picked it up and said, 264 00:20:32,350 --> 00:20:36,716 “A half-Millennium Rift: Lutherans and Catholics reach agreement on 265 00:20:36,716 --> 00:20:40,482 the issues that once split western Christianity in two.” 266 00:20:40,483 --> 00:20:47,449 And by 1999, November 1, “churches end 500-year rift” 267 00:20:47,450 --> 00:20:53,283 so the Lutherans acknowledged the Pope. And this amazing statement: 268 00:20:53,283 --> 00:20:59,649 “Germany calls to ask: forgive Luther” for what? 269 00:20:59,650 --> 00:21:04,583 For what should he be forgiven? And the Calvinistic church, they 270 00:21:04,583 --> 00:21:09,216 said “we need to have more respect for the icons and the things, we 271 00:21:09,216 --> 00:21:14,282 cannot just go together like this.” “Lutheran leader says Pope might 272 00:21:14,283 --> 00:21:18,016 be global spokesperson for all Christians. Friday Church News 273 00:21:18,016 --> 00:21:22,982 Notes, July 6, 2001. – Ishmael Noko, general secretary of the 274 00:21:22,983 --> 00:21:25,416 Lutheran World Fellowship, said in March that Lutherans 275 00:21:25,416 --> 00:21:29,616 “‘can certainly look to the Pope’ as “one of the spiritual leaders in 276 00:21:29,616 --> 00:21:32,782 the world today.’ He went on to say that the ecumenical movement 277 00:21:32,783 --> 00:21:36,116 requires Christians to look into the possibility that the Pope 278 00:21:36,116 --> 00:21:40,316 should become the “global spokesperson for all Christians.’” 279 00:21:40,316 --> 00:21:44,449 So the Anglicans capitulate, the Lutherans capitulate, 280 00:21:44,450 --> 00:21:48,283 the Presbyterians capitulate, the Methodists capitulate, everybody 281 00:21:48,283 --> 00:21:52,049 capitulates. In Germany you have now churches such as this one which 282 00:21:52,050 --> 00:21:55,150 I find interesting, there’s the Catholic side, there’s the 283 00:21:55,150 --> 00:22:02,816 Protestant side, and they share the bell tower. And by the year 2000, 284 00:22:02,816 --> 00:22:08,016 the Knights of Columbus (which of course is Jesuit controlled) 285 00:22:08,016 --> 00:22:13,882 started sending icons of Our Lady of Guadalupe to all the churches in 286 00:22:13,883 --> 00:22:17,749 the world. “Nativity of the blessed Virgin… ‘It’s wonderful’ said Gino 287 00:22:17,750 --> 00:22:22,616 Masotti, grand knight of the Knights of Columbus Council 11608 288 00:22:22,616 --> 00:22:26,116 at Precious Blood Cathedral” that he hopes everybody bows down 289 00:22:26,116 --> 00:22:29,916 to the icon. Then came the Joint Declaration of Lutherans and 290 00:22:29,916 --> 00:22:34,716 Catholics, where they discussed the doctrine of justification, a 291 00:22:34,716 --> 00:22:38,949 brilliantly written document, which totally undermines the Protestant 292 00:22:38,950 --> 00:22:44,316 principle. Well, if the Bible goes, you better get livelier so that 293 00:22:44,316 --> 00:22:48,949 people don’t read the Bible so much. “Theologen wollen lebendiger 294 00:22:48,950 --> 00:22:54,350 warden” Theologians want to become livelier, let’s got o church to 295 00:22:54,350 --> 00:22:59,850 have some, you know, some liturgy, some movement; I don’t know, you 296 00:22:59,850 --> 00:23:03,150 know if you swing your arms, maybe you can switch the air conditioners 297 00:23:03,150 --> 00:23:07,516 off, I don’t know what the aim of it all is, but churches forge 298 00:23:07,516 --> 00:23:11,482 together. “But in recent years many leaders of national churches have 299 00:23:11,483 --> 00:23:14,716 moved from a cautious “No comment” to the view that the charismatic 300 00:23:14,716 --> 00:23:18,116 movement is the best hope for a renewal. Professor Hollenweger 301 00:23:18,116 --> 00:23:21,916 said exactly the same thing: he said, “Catholics and Protestants” 302 00:23:21,916 --> 00:23:24,882 come together because of the “charismatic movement” which 303 00:23:24,883 --> 00:23:27,083 “has worked miracles.” 304 00:23:27,083 --> 00:23:32,516 “Charismatic wave of unity among S. A. churches” then the Dutch Reform 305 00:23:32,516 --> 00:23:35,682 church says “The time is more than ripe to look at what we have in 306 00:23:35,683 --> 00:23:39,916 common and not only at what separates us.” And all these great 307 00:23:39,916 --> 00:23:44,649 people say exactly the same thing, the moderators of all these great 308 00:23:44,650 --> 00:23:50,416 churches. By 1990’s the World Council of Churches was not the 309 00:23:50,416 --> 00:23:53,949 same as it used to be. Originally the World Council of 310 00:23:53,950 --> 00:24:00,150 Churches was there to talk about Protestant unity, but of course it 311 00:24:00,150 --> 00:24:04,683 had an agenda to be led towards Rome. Why is Rome not a member of 312 00:24:04,683 --> 00:24:09,283 the ecumenical movement? Because it never separated, it’s 313 00:24:09,283 --> 00:24:13,983 the mother, it’s the kiddies that must come together to go back to 314 00:24:13,983 --> 00:24:18,716 mommy, that’s what’s got to happen. If Rome became a member of the 315 00:24:18,716 --> 00:24:22,816 ecumenical movement she would saythat she’s one of the sisters. 316 00:24:22,816 --> 00:24:27,516 She’s not, she’s the mother, so she cannot be. And at the World 317 00:24:27,516 --> 00:24:31,382 Council of Churches, they said here “come Holy Spirit… renew the Whole 318 00:24:31,383 --> 00:24:35,916 Creation” was the overall theme. Now the lady who was in charge of 319 00:24:35,916 --> 00:24:40,582 the main speech at the beginning was Ms Chung Kyung as she burns a 320 00:24:40,583 --> 00:24:44,283 list of the dead she invoked. Well she gave the address, she is 321 00:24:44,283 --> 00:24:50,449 now professor at UTS, and she arrived on the stage dancing with 322 00:24:50,450 --> 00:24:57,450 Aboriginal men, in loincloths, etc. And then she invoked the dead, she 323 00:24:57,450 --> 00:25:01,783 called up Hagar, Uriah, male babies killed by Herod, Joan of Arc, 324 00:25:01,783 --> 00:25:05,516 people killed in the gas chambers, Mahatma Gandhi, Steve Biko, Martin 325 00:25:05,516 --> 00:25:09,149 Luther King, and finally she also called up the spirit of our 326 00:25:09,150 --> 00:25:15,216 Liberator, Jesus Christ. And then she burnt the list as a 327 00:25:15,216 --> 00:25:20,449 symbol. Now let’s look at what happens here. 328 00:25:20,450 --> 00:25:24,383 “Combining verbal fireworks with a performance by Korean and 329 00:25:24,383 --> 00:25:29,083 aboriginal dancers, Chung rendered a dramatic evocation of a female 330 00:25:29,083 --> 00:25:34,216 Holy Spirit… she linked [it] to Hagar… ‘exploited and abandoned by 331 00:25:34,216 --> 00:25:37,916 Abraham and Sarah’… ‘I also know that I no longer believe in an 332 00:25:37,916 --> 00:25:42,082 omnipotent, Macho, warrior God who rescues all good guy sand punishes 333 00:25:42,083 --> 00:25:46,216 all bad guys…’ “Eighteen times Chung summoned the spirits of the 334 00:25:46,216 --> 00:25:49,682 dead who have suffered injustices and claimed that ‘without hearing 335 00:25:49,683 --> 00:25:52,283 the cries of these spirits, we cannot hear the voice of the Holy 336 00:25:52,283 --> 00:25:58,183 Spirit… Don’t bother the Spirit by calling her all the time.’ 337 00:25:58,183 --> 00:26:02,849 Added Chung, ‘I hope the presence of all our ancestors’ spirits here 338 00:26:02,850 --> 00:26:06,350 with us shall not make you uncomfortable.’” 339 00:26:06,350 --> 00:26:12,316 Well is this biblical, yes or no? Definitely not, but she is the 340 00:26:12,316 --> 00:26:17,949 minister of the biggest Protestant church in Korea, and she is now 341 00:26:17,950 --> 00:26:23,883 also Professor at UTS. Chung Hyun Kung 342 00:26:23,883 --> 00:26:27,249 “… was a graduate of the Union Theological Seminary.” 343 00:26:27,250 --> 00:26:31,383 Which I’ve already told you is Masonic, “Chung was ‘a professor of 344 00:26:31,383 --> 00:26:34,816 Korea’s Ewha Women’s University, the world’s largest university for 345 00:26:34,816 --> 00:26:39,549 women, with 20,000 students’” She said: “The three goddesses I 346 00:26:39,550 --> 00:26:42,783 want to share with you are Kali [Hindu], Kwan-in [Buddhist], and 347 00:26:42,783 --> 00:26:47,716 Enna [Philippines]… my new trinity.’ ”Interesting, “she added: 348 00:26:47,716 --> 00:26:50,149 ‘The Christian church has been very patriarchal. 349 00:26:50,150 --> 00:26:52,683 That’s why we are here together, in order to destroy this 350 00:26:52,683 --> 00:26:56,216 patriarchal idolatry of Christianity.’” 351 00:26:56,216 --> 00:27:01,516 Ok, so that’s the main spokesmen at most of the World Council of 352 00:27:01,516 --> 00:27:06,182 Church’s meetings. She explains: “I came from… a Shamanist, Buddhist 353 00:27:06,183 --> 00:27:09,849 and Confucian and Taoist and Christian tradition… when I look at 354 00:27:09,850 --> 00:27:14,916 our history of religion, we have more than 5000 years of Shamanism, 355 00:27:14,916 --> 00:27:21,016 more than 2000 years of Taoism, and almost 2000 years of Buddhism, 700 356 00:27:21,016 --> 00:27:26,749 years of Confucianism and only 100 years of Protestantism in Korea. 357 00:27:26,750 --> 00:27:31,383 Therefore, whenever I go to temples… and look at Buddha, I feel so young… 358 00:27:31,383 --> 00:27:35,816 Buddha died in his 80s and Jesus died when he was 33. 359 00:27:35,816 --> 00:27:42,416 Maybe… Jesus should be called ‘Too young to understand.’… 360 00:27:42,416 --> 00:27:49,616 Wow, “I feel like my bowel is Shamanist, my heart is Buddhist, my right 361 00:27:49,616 --> 00:27:52,982 Brain is Confucianist, and my left brain is Christian,’ Kyung 362 00:27:52,983 --> 00:27:58,816 continued. ‘I call it a family of gods and… they are together.’” 363 00:27:58,816 --> 00:28:02,016 So do you see the direction in which the World Council of Church’s 364 00:28:02,016 --> 00:28:06,449 is moving? Kyung also said: “We believe that this life-giving 365 00:28:06,450 --> 00:28:10,116 energy came from god and it is everywhere. It is in the sun, in 366 00:28:10,116 --> 00:28:16,016 the oc-” here we go again, how nauseating, what is this? Pantheism. 367 00:28:16,016 --> 00:28:19,182 “It is from the ground, and it is from the trees… If you feel very 368 00:28:19,183 --> 00:28:23,016 tired and you feel you don’t have any energy to give, what you do is 369 00:28:23,016 --> 00:28:26,282 sit in silence, maybe you go to big tree and ask… ‘give me some of your 370 00:28:26,283 --> 00:28:30,949 life energy.’ Or you ask the sun to give you some life energy.” 371 00:28:30,950 --> 00:28:35,383 Well is this Christianity, yes or no? No this is absolutely not 372 00:28:35,383 --> 00:28:39,383 Christianity. “Kyung was also a speaker at the World Council of 373 00:28:39,383 --> 00:28:43,549 Churches in Harare, Zimbabwe in November 1998 where she performed a 374 00:28:43,550 --> 00:28:47,650 sensual dance. Dr. Kyung declared that to witness about Jesus Christ 375 00:28:47,650 --> 00:28:52,483 to another person is in reality ‘an act of violence.’ 376 00:28:52,483 --> 00:28:56,483 Now let’s get to the hub of the matter, to witness about Jesus 377 00:28:56,483 --> 00:29:03,383 Christ is an act of violence, why? Because you are doing what? 378 00:29:03,383 --> 00:29:06,383 You are going against the human rights of the other individual who 379 00:29:06,383 --> 00:29:08,749 might be a Buddhist or a Hindu or a this or a that. 380 00:29:08,750 --> 00:29:12,783 He has the right to be what he is, and if you tell him something else, 381 00:29:12,783 --> 00:29:16,383 ‘that you have to believe in Jesus Christ,’ then you are committing an 382 00:29:16,383 --> 00:29:23,849 act of violence. So in other words, what I am doing is an act of violence, ok. 383 00:29:23,850 --> 00:29:28,883 “When reminded that Jesus said in John 14:6 that He is the only way, 384 00:29:28,883 --> 00:29:34,516 Kyung said Jesus ‘was mistaken.’” Ok, that’s why the World Council 385 00:29:34,516 --> 00:29:38,782 of Churches uses demons and all kinds of interesting things. 386 00:29:38,783 --> 00:29:45,916 And we have Oikoumene, Oikoumene, now what does Oikoumene mean? 387 00:29:45,916 --> 00:29:51,382 Here we have an example of Oikoumene. Well let’s ask the World Council of 388 00:29:51,383 --> 00:29:56,283 Church’s webpage what Oikoumene actually means. 389 00:29:56,283 --> 00:30:00,949 “The world ‘ecumenical’ is derived from the Greek term oikoumene, 390 00:30:00,950 --> 00:30:06,750 which may be translated as ‘the whole inhabited world’. 391 00:30:06,750 --> 00:30:11,250 It is in seeing this world as God’s that we see ourselves as one. 392 00:30:11,250 --> 00:30:14,016 It is in seeing all the world’s people as made in God’s image 393 00:30:14,016 --> 00:30:20,082 that we are called to protect the welfare of every one. Interesting. 394 00:30:20,083 --> 00:30:26,283 Now remember that I always show you that Gary Kahr said the ancient 395 00:30:26,283 --> 00:30:29,049 Babylonian religion through Kabbalism etc. through to 396 00:30:29,050 --> 00:30:32,950 Freemasonry controls Marxism, the American Secret Political 397 00:30:32,950 --> 00:30:37,583 Societies, the International Baking, and the World Council of Churches. 398 00:30:37,583 --> 00:30:40,449 Do you think he might have been right? 399 00:30:40,450 --> 00:30:45,283 With their teaching, “Jesus was wrong, he was too young 400 00:30:45,283 --> 00:30:50,516 to understand… we have nature worship” all of these things, that 401 00:30:50,516 --> 00:30:54,982 is definitely not biblical. What does - “Alice A. Bailey, 402 00:30:54,983 --> 00:30:59,716 the Foundress of Lucifer Trust, in 1919” she predicted 403 00:30:59,716 --> 00:31:03,382 “the appearance of ‘a Universal Church’ of which ‘the definitive 404 00:31:03,383 --> 00:31:07,516 outline will appear toward the end of the century’… 405 00:31:07,516 --> 00:31:12,849 “There will not be any dissociation between the Universal Church, the 406 00:31:12,850 --> 00:31:16,150 Sacred Lodge of all true Masons” see how they’re bringing it 407 00:31:16,150 --> 00:31:21,216 together? “And the inner circles of the esoteric societies… In this 408 00:31:21,216 --> 00:31:24,916 way, the goals and work of the United Nations shall be solidified 409 00:31:24,916 --> 00:31:29,749 and a new Church of God, led by all the religions and by all of the 410 00:31:29,750 --> 00:31:35,483 spiritual groups, shall put an end to the great heresy of separateness.” 411 00:31:35,483 --> 00:31:39,283 Good, this requires a whole lecture, this is heavy stuff; 412 00:31:39,283 --> 00:31:43,716 so there’s a lecture coming, “The UN & the Occult Agenda’ it’s 413 00:31:43,716 --> 00:31:49,682 on your paper, this is very heavy. She says “the churches, the lodges,” 414 00:31:49,683 --> 00:31:54,149 sacred lodge by the way, “the esoteric societies” 415 00:31:54,150 --> 00:31:57,683 by the end of the century will work together to bring about this 416 00:31:57,683 --> 00:32:03,616 New World Religion. Now as a Christian believing that Jesus is 417 00:32:03,616 --> 00:32:09,182 the only way, can I join this society, yes or no? 418 00:32:09,183 --> 00:32:14,816 You’re all so adamant, this is very strange. “Norman Vincent Peale” 419 00:32:14,816 --> 00:32:17,316 now who is Norman Vincent Peale? Probably one of the greatest 420 00:32:17,316 --> 00:32:22,416 preachers of our times, “(33rd Degree Freemason): 421 00:32:22,416 --> 00:32:25,849 Freemasonry has always welcomed men of all faiths and religious beliefs 422 00:32:25,850 --> 00:32:28,616 to enter its doors. The only requirement is for good men to 423 00:32:28,616 --> 00:32:31,949 believe in the Supreme Architect and the immortality of the soul.” 424 00:32:31,950 --> 00:32:35,983 None of which is of course biblical. “Masons, in fact, go beyond narrow 425 00:32:35,983 --> 00:32:39,016 sectarianism and limiting dogma. They agree with the statement of the 426 00:32:39,016 --> 00:32:42,616 famous statesman and writer Edmund Burke: ‘The body of all true 427 00:32:42,616 --> 00:32:46,616 religion consists, to be sure, in obedience to the will of the 428 00:32:46,616 --> 00:32:50,782 Sovereign of the world, in a confidence in His declarations, and in imitation 429 00:32:50,783 --> 00:32:55,683 of His perfection.’” That’s what Norman Vincent Peale said who is a 33 degree 430 00:32:55,683 --> 00:33:01,483 Freemason. As is Bishop Carl J. Sanders, 33°, G.C. United Methodist Church. 431 00:33:01,483 --> 00:33:05,216 Rabbi Seymour Atlas, Dr. James Wesberry, Executive Director 432 00:33:05,216 --> 00:33:07,682 and Editor of Sunday Georgia Baptist Church. 433 00:33:07,683 --> 00:33:10,849 He’s a 32° Freemason. Reverend Louis Grant, District 434 00:33:10,850 --> 00:33:14,083 Superintendent The United Methodist Church, 33° Freemason. 435 00:33:14,083 --> 00:33:18,049 Reverend blah blah blah blah, on and on and on. Well Norman Vincent 436 00:33:18,050 --> 00:33:20,850 Peale said “I have found…that the Scottish Rite and the Symbolic 437 00:33:20,850 --> 00:33:24,016 Lodge espouse the belief of no one religion, but are a respecter of 438 00:33:24,016 --> 00:33:29,282 all major religions of the world.” And Billy Graham says that Norman 439 00:33:29,283 --> 00:33:36,583 Vincent Peale is his great mentor. Interesting, he has a 33° mentor. 440 00:33:36,583 --> 00:33:40,616 Billy Graham, World’s most popular ‘Christian’ evangelist is – was 441 00:33:40,616 --> 00:33:43,849 listed on web pages as - a 33rd degree Freemason. 442 00:33:43,850 --> 00:33:46,850 By themselves, after much criticism they took them off all 443 00:33:46,850 --> 00:33:54,050 the lists. Shaw was himself a 33° freemason, revealed that Billy 444 00:33:54,050 --> 00:33:58,983 Graham was at his initiation ceremony, but in his book, 445 00:33:58,983 --> 00:34:05,849 The Deception, he talks about a prominent evangelist who attended it, 446 00:34:05,850 --> 00:34:09,382 so that he could get his book published. Norman Vincent Peale 447 00:34:09,382 --> 00:34:16,149 is a definite 33° Freemason, ex Grand Chaplain of the Grand Lodge of New 448 00:34:16,150 --> 00:34:20,550 York, this is the one that Billy Graham said is his mentor. 449 00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:25,916 Robert Schuller, 33° Freemason, these are webpage sites where you 450 00:34:25,916 --> 00:34:29,681 can look it up, but of course there are many many writings which 451 00:34:29,683 --> 00:34:33,248 confirm this, so this is not the only source; I’m just quoting from 452 00:34:33,250 --> 00:34:38,250 the sources. Oral Roberts, Jesse Jackson, most of the early founding 453 00:34:38,250 --> 00:34:41,016 Mormons, we know that; Jehovah’s witness, we know all 454 00:34:41,016 --> 00:34:45,782 that. Peale, let’s have a look at Norman Vincent Peale, endorsed the 455 00:34:45,783 --> 00:34:48,483 channeled messages called the “Jesus Letters”, 456 00:34:48,483 --> 00:34:52,983 written by Jane Palzere and Anna Brown. So he endorsed channeled 457 00:34:52,983 --> 00:34:57,183 letters. “The amazing holy letters where written on each day over a t 458 00:34:57,183 --> 00:35:01,449 wo-year period that began on a morning in 1978. 459 00:35:01,450 --> 00:35:04,850 She said the letters were dictated by a ‘nonliving spirit’ who 460 00:35:04,850 --> 00:35:08,616 identified Himself through her pen as Jesus Christ.” 461 00:35:08,616 --> 00:35:12,916 There’s the quote: …Peale’s response… He adds: “it little matters if these 462 00:35:12,916 --> 00:35:17,249 writings came from Jesus of Nazareth or Jesus of Jane, they are 463 00:35:17,250 --> 00:35:20,816 all the same consciousness and that consciousness is God. 464 00:35:20,816 --> 00:35:25,616 I am part of God and Jane and Anna are part of that same God.” 465 00:35:25,616 --> 00:35:31,082 Right, that’s what Norman Vincent Peale taught, this is the mentor of 466 00:35:31,083 --> 00:35:37,183 Billy Graham. Interesting. …speaking of occultist Kreskin… 467 00:35:37,183 --> 00:35:39,816 “All he’s doing” says Norman Vincent Peale 468 00:35:39,816 --> 00:35:44,516 “is dramatizing what I’ve been preaching in my writing for years.” 469 00:35:44,516 --> 00:35:48,416 Another book, The Dead Are Alive! They Can and Do Communicate with 470 00:35:48,416 --> 00:35:52,249 You, was also promoted by Peale. He gushed: “A masterpiece!... 471 00:35:52,250 --> 00:35:57,750 I hope it will be widely read.” Ok, this is the mentor of Billy 472 00:35:57,750 --> 00:36:00,850 Graham, just remember that. “The book’s author is Harold 473 00:36:00,850 --> 00:36:03,850 Sherman, a psychic and spirit medium who also wrote a companion 474 00:36:03,850 --> 00:36:06,050 book, You live after death.” 475 00:36:06,050 --> 00:36:11,050 Pope John Paul II visit the Jewish Synagogue by 1986, ’87 476 00:36:11,050 --> 00:36:15,750 he tours the US, meets with Protestants and Orthodox, ‘88-’89: 477 00:36:15,750 --> 00:36:19,583 Russia opens the door to the charismatic movement, and so 478 00:36:19,583 --> 00:36:24,516 they’re all coming together in one big happy family. 479 00:36:24,516 --> 00:36:28,316 The Southern Cross, the Catholic Newspaper write, 480 00:36:28,316 --> 00:36:32,849 “Israel’s chief rabbi pays visit to Pope” The patriarch of course of 481 00:36:32,850 --> 00:36:37,516 the Orthodox church and the Pope also meet with much Masonic 482 00:36:37,516 --> 00:36:41,749 signaling going over there. “Israel invites the Pope to visit 483 00:36:41,750 --> 00:36:47,216 the Holy Land” and the Pope honors Shindler’s widow. 484 00:36:47,216 --> 00:36:54,349 This is the Rabbi, Robert Jacobs, let’s here what he has to say on this issue. 485 00:36:54,350 --> 00:37:02,750 “And in 1965 Vatican II changed that,” 486 00:37:02,750 --> 00:37:05,750 “Jacob says the second Vatican council marked an historic turn 487 00:37:05,750 --> 00:37:09,383 around for Catholic Jewish relations. And he says John Paul II 488 00:37:09,383 --> 00:37:12,483 has done extraordinary things to show respect for Judaism. 489 00:37:12,483 --> 00:37:14,983 He was the first Pope to visit a synagogue.” 490 00:37:14,983 --> 00:37:19,083 Jacobs: “No Pope in Roman history had ever 491 00:37:19,083 --> 00:37:26,716 done, has ever done, what he has done. It gives all Jews a feeling 492 00:37:26,716 --> 00:37:32,916 that for the first time in Christian church history, Judaism 493 00:37:32,916 --> 00:37:39,049 is appreciated as having its own integrity, and is not demeaned. 494 00:37:39,050 --> 00:37:46,316 I think it’s a tremendous privilege to meet this extraordinary Pope.” 495 00:37:46,316 --> 00:37:50,382 Veith: And then when the Pope visited St. Louis, this is what he 496 00:37:50,383 --> 00:37:56,516 had to say. Jacob: “We rejoice and blossom, they will blossom with 497 00:37:56,516 --> 00:38:03,982 abundant flowers and rejoice with joyful song.” 498 00:38:03,983 --> 00:38:10,483 Veith: That’s interesting, well here is Aleksy, the Russian patriarch, 499 00:38:10,483 --> 00:38:17,083 and there he is with Cardinal Cassidy, and they have much more freedom; 500 00:38:17,083 --> 00:38:20,783 this is a signal picture by the way, Oikoumene, 501 00:38:20,783 --> 00:38:23,749 the Pope and the patriarch together. 502 00:38:23,750 --> 00:38:29,783 And we have a revival of Eastern Orthodoxy. Occultism is revived, 503 00:38:29,783 --> 00:38:34,016 Asian religions are revived, Islam, Buddhism, Hinduism, Shintoism, 504 00:38:34,016 --> 00:38:38,549 Sokka Gakkai, and Spiritism. In the world there is a revival of 505 00:38:38,550 --> 00:38:43,450 religion and religious fervor and conflict is on the increase, have 506 00:38:43,450 --> 00:38:49,683 you noticed that? Yes, now why? Because through chaos and 507 00:38:49,683 --> 00:38:54,916 conflict, you will bring them together, make the pain of 508 00:38:54,916 --> 00:39:02,849 separation greater than the pain of union. Thesis, antithesis, 509 00:39:02,850 --> 00:39:08,150 synthesis is the Hegelian philosophy. “Great expectations” 510 00:39:08,150 --> 00:39:13,683 the patriarch of Constantinople says, “we will join the churches”. 511 00:39:13,683 --> 00:39:17,183 Then the opening of the Islamic Cultural Centre in Rome, Catholic 512 00:39:17,183 --> 00:39:22,683 Bishops residing; Pope John Paul greets them, Islam and Catholicism, 513 00:39:22,683 --> 00:39:25,883 we’ve dealt with it in a whole lecture, coming together. 514 00:39:25,883 --> 00:39:31,283 The problem is how to bring Judaism, Islam, Christianity all 515 00:39:31,283 --> 00:39:36,283 together. These are documents from the Catholic Academy of Trier, note 516 00:39:36,283 --> 00:39:40,783 what they are using over here, what is the symbolism they are using 517 00:39:40,783 --> 00:39:44,116 with all these strange symbols on their documents? 518 00:39:44,116 --> 00:39:49,482 Same over here, pentagrams, all the religious symbols in a circle, 519 00:39:49,483 --> 00:39:53,649 papal seminary; what is this structure here with the mystic taos 520 00:39:53,650 --> 00:39:57,350 around it, what does it mean, the emblem of the centenary of the 521 00:39:57,350 --> 00:40:01,683 Catholic Church in Cameroon. Well these are Kalyant’s and 522 00:40:01,683 --> 00:40:05,916 Mandala’s that they are using, these are symbols of Eastern 523 00:40:05,916 --> 00:40:12,282 Religions symbolizing unity of all the churches. Pope and the Dalai 524 00:40:12,283 --> 00:40:18,083 Lama together, and it is interesting that we need to study 525 00:40:18,083 --> 00:40:23,383 what the Protestant world has to say on this issue as well, and I 526 00:40:23,383 --> 00:40:28,516 would like to show you the great Protestant preachers and what they 527 00:40:28,516 --> 00:40:32,049 are actually preaching, now Robert Schuller is listed on many many 528 00:40:32,050 --> 00:40:37,183 webpages as a 33 degree Freemason. Well the proof of the pudding of course 529 00:40:37,183 --> 00:40:43,083 is always in the eating. He wrote here in The Fourth Dimension, Foreword, 530 00:40:43,083 --> 00:40:48,683 “I discovered the reality of that dynamic dimension in prayer that 531 00:40:48,683 --> 00:40:52,849 comes through visualizing… Don’t try to understand it. 532 00:40:52,850 --> 00:40:56,716 Just start to enjoy it! It’s true. It works. I tried it.” 533 00:40:56,716 --> 00:41:00,782 Now visualizing is the way in which you start visualizing 534 00:41:00,783 --> 00:41:05,583 something and it becomes part of your fantasy world, they train 535 00:41:05,583 --> 00:41:10,683 little kids to do this, this is occult technique, it’s occultism. 536 00:41:10,683 --> 00:41:16,549 Here is his famous cathedral, the crystal palace, there he is, this 537 00:41:16,550 --> 00:41:20,816 great preacher; by the way he took the plans of this cathedral and he 538 00:41:20,816 --> 00:41:25,116 took them to Rome in order to have them blessed by the Pope. 539 00:41:25,116 --> 00:41:29,082 That’s very interesting that Robert Schuller should take these 540 00:41:29,083 --> 00:41:34,949 to the Pope to have them blessed. His son is now obviously taking 541 00:41:34,950 --> 00:41:38,483 over the ministry as he gets a little bit older. 542 00:41:38,483 --> 00:41:42,449 Robert Schuller: Quotes from Self-Esteem: The New Reformation, 543 00:41:42,450 --> 00:41:47,616 he writes, “Classical theology has erred in its insistence that 544 00:41:47,616 --> 00:41:52,249 theology be ‘God-centered,’ not ‘man-centered’” (p. 64). 545 00:41:52,250 --> 00:41:57,883 That’s very interesting, that’s spoken like a true Freemason, 546 00:41:57,883 --> 00:42:02,783 wouldn’t you agree? Yes, on p. 153 he writes 547 00:42:02,783 --> 00:42:07,716 “One classical role of the pulpit in Protestantism has been to 548 00:42:07,716 --> 00:42:15,316 ‘preach sermons’ – oh - which imply indoctrination more than education. 549 00:42:15,316 --> 00:42:18,949 Within this form of communication, there is an inherent, intrinsic 550 00:42:18,950 --> 00:42:23,450 inclination to intimidate, manipulate, and, hence, offend the 551 00:42:23,450 --> 00:42:27,983 person’s most prized quality of humanness – his dignity” 552 00:42:27,983 --> 00:42:35,583 Well that sounds like Vatican II, let’s move to liturgy, let’s have 553 00:42:35,583 --> 00:42:41,649 all these wonderful things other than the preaching of the word. 554 00:42:41,650 --> 00:42:46,183 He writes on page 14, “Sin is any act or thought that 555 00:42:46,183 --> 00:42:52,183 robs myself or another human being of his or her self-esteem” 556 00:42:52,183 --> 00:42:54,683 that’s interesting because I thought the Bible said, 557 00:42:54,683 --> 00:42:59,349 “sin is the transgression of the law,” isn’t it right? 558 00:42:59,350 --> 00:43:02,983 He writes on page 26-27 “What we need is a theology of 559 00:43:02,983 --> 00:43:07,149 salvation that begins and ends with a recognition of every person’s 560 00:43:07,150 --> 00:43:18,116 hunger for glory” Oh, I thought that justification is something 561 00:43:18,116 --> 00:43:23,116 that actually lays man’s glory in the dust, that’s what I thought, it 562 00:43:23,116 --> 00:43:27,449 makes Jesus Christ more, and me less; isn’t that what the Bible 563 00:43:27,450 --> 00:43:34,816 teaches? “He must increase, I must decrease” wow, p. 68 564 00:43:34,816 --> 00:43:39,216 “To be born again means that we must be changed from a negative to 565 00:43:39,216 --> 00:43:45,882 a positive self-image – from inferiority to self-esteem, from 566 00:43:45,883 --> 00:43:49,949 fear to love, from doubt to trust”. Very interesting theology. 567 00:43:49,950 --> 00:43:57,083 Page 75 “The Cross sanctifies the ego trip. For the Cross protected 568 00:43:57,083 --> 00:44:01,483 our Lord’s perfect self-esteem from turning into sinful pride.” 569 00:44:01,483 --> 00:44:07,649 Now that is just plain blasphemy as far as I’m concerned. Page 135 570 00:44:07,650 --> 00:44:12,783 “Christ is the Ideal One, for he was Self-Esteem Incarnate”. 571 00:44:12,783 --> 00:44:17,449 I thought he came to show humility, didn’t he? 572 00:44:17,450 --> 00:44:24,050 My Bible says he was humble. “Jesus never called a person a 573 00:44:24,050 --> 00:44:28,150 sinner. … Rather he reserved his righteous rebuke for those who used 574 00:44:28,150 --> 00:44:32,916 their religious authority to generate guilt and caused people to 575 00:44:32,916 --> 00:44:38,282 lose their ability to taste and enjoy their right to dignity…” 576 00:44:38,283 --> 00:44:43,383 Interesting. I thought he said “I have not called the righteous, 577 00:44:43,383 --> 00:44:47,016 but sinners to repentance” didn’t he say that? 578 00:44:47,016 --> 00:44:49,882 So this man is obviously using some strange document, 579 00:44:49,883 --> 00:44:54,916 I don’t know which Bible he uses. He says “… the church’s problem is 580 00:44:54,916 --> 00:44:59,516 that it had a God-centered theology for centuries, when it needs a 581 00:44:59,516 --> 00:45:04,482 man-centered one; (2) we’re not bad, merely badly informed about 582 00:45:04,483 --> 00:45:11,516 how good we are;” oh, Robert Schuller, that’s a fascinating 583 00:45:11,516 --> 00:45:16,349 statement! “It would be an insult to the integrity of any human being 584 00:45:16,350 --> 00:45:20,683 to call him a sinner;” I thought when he comes, the Holy 585 00:45:20,683 --> 00:45:29,316 Spirit, he will convict us of sin and righteousness and judgment. 586 00:45:29,316 --> 00:45:34,216 “Jesus knew His wroth; His success fed His self-esteem. 587 00:45:34,216 --> 00:45:38,782 He suffered the cross to sanctify His self-esteem and He bore the 588 00:45:38,783 --> 00:45:44,383 cross to sanctify your self-esteem. The cross will sanctify the ego trip”. 589 00:45:44,383 --> 00:45:48,683 Isn’t this pathetic? This man is not a Christian, 590 00:45:48,683 --> 00:45:55,383 he’s a Mason. Now, remember when I say Mason, I mean high Mason, 591 00:45:55,383 --> 00:45:59,449 because the poor lower grades of Masons know nothing about all of this; 592 00:45:59,450 --> 00:46:04,716 high Mason, let me qualify. [Schuller further amplified this 593 00:46:04,716 --> 00:46:08,682 latter thought on the 8/12/80 Phil Donahue Show; Schuller said, 594 00:46:08,683 --> 00:46:12,983 “Jesus had an ego. He said, ‘I, if I be lifted up, will draw all 595 00:46:12,983 --> 00:46:18,683 men unto me.’ Wow, what an ego trip He was on!”] That’s disgusting. 596 00:46:18,683 --> 00:46:23,449 Questioner, this is a questioner to Schuller: “How could the cross, 597 00:46:23,450 --> 00:46:26,183 as you write, “sanctify the ego trip,” and make us proud, in the 598 00:46:26,183 --> 00:46:31,149 light of passages that say, “I hate pride and arrogance (Prov. 8:13), 599 00:46:31,150 --> 00:46:34,216 “Pride goes before destruction” (Prov. 16:18), 600 00:46:34,216 --> 00:46:38,682 “The Lord detests all the proud” (Prov. 16:5), “Do not be proud” 601 00:46:38,683 --> 00:46:43,816 (Rom. 12:16), “Love does not boast, it is not proud” (1 Cor. 13:4). 602 00:46:43,816 --> 00:46:46,416 In fact Paul warns Timothy that in the last days men 603 00:46:46,416 --> 00:46:49,616 “will be lovers of themselves” (2 Tim. 3:2). …” 604 00:46:49,616 --> 00:46:53,016 Good questioner, I like the questioner already, 605 00:46:53,016 --> 00:46:55,682 “Why should we do anything to encourage people to become 606 00:46:55,683 --> 00:46:58,949 “lovers of themselves” if Paul in fact warned others that 607 00:46:58,950 --> 00:47:03,116 that would be the state of godlessness in the last days?” 608 00:47:03,116 --> 00:47:07,449 Schuller: “I hope you don't [preach this] because you could do a lot of 609 00:47:07,450 --> 00:47:12,116 damage to a lot of beautiful people. … if you preach that text, oh man, 610 00:47:12,116 --> 00:47:16,182 I sure hop you give it the kind of interpretation that I do, or I’ll 611 00:47:16,183 --> 00:47:19,116 tell you, you’ll drive them farther away and they’ll be madder than 612 00:47:19,116 --> 00:47:21,649 hell at you and they’ll turn the Bible off, and they’ll switch you 613 00:47:21,650 --> 00:47:24,316 off, and they’ll turn on the rock music and Madonna. 614 00:47:24,316 --> 00:47:29,082 Just because it’s in the Bible doesn’t mean you should preach it. 615 00:47:29,083 --> 00:47:33,083 … it is so difficult to preach some of those texts and not come 616 00:47:33,083 --> 00:47:36,016 across as lacking humility…” 11/92 radio interview with Robert Schuller Rapidnet.com. 617 00:47:36,016 --> 00:47:38,982 See how these people turn it round? 618 00:47:38,983 --> 00:47:43,283 Robert Schuller: “… what sets me apart from fundamentalists [is that they] are 619 00:47:43,283 --> 00:47:47,316 trying to convert everybody to believe how they believe. … We know the things 620 00:47:47,316 --> 00:47:51,516 the major faiths can agree on. We try to focus on those without 621 00:47:51,516 --> 00:47:56,182 offending those with different view-points. …” (3/23/89, USA Today). There’s the quote, 622 00:47:56,183 --> 00:47:59,783 USA Today. -Schuller said: “When we know we have been redeemed 623 00:47:59,783 --> 00:48:04,083 and we know we are part of God’s family, we are ready to dream that 624 00:48:04,083 --> 00:48:09,116 great divine dream of building the kingdom of God in the world.” 625 00:48:09,116 --> 00:48:13,316 Now the Kingdom of God I thought was not of this world, 626 00:48:13,316 --> 00:48:18,116 didn’t you think so as well? Robert Schuller said after his 627 00:48:18,116 --> 00:48:22,149 thousandth telecast, when he was congratulated by Mother Theresa, 628 00:48:22,150 --> 00:48:24,650 she was still alive there; Billy Graham congratulated him, 629 00:48:24,650 --> 00:48:28,283 S. Scott King, Martin Luther [King], all the living presidents of the 630 00:48:28,283 --> 00:48:31,183 United States as well as Sammy Davis Junior – who was a Satanist. 631 00:48:31,183 --> 00:48:36,849 They all congratulated him. “What we need is to positivise the 632 00:48:36,850 --> 00:48:39,883 words that have only had a negative connotation. There is no greater 633 00:48:39,883 --> 00:48:43,949 damage that can be done than to refer to the lost sinful condition 634 00:48:43,950 --> 00:48:49,350 of man.” Let me tell you something, if man doesn’t realize that he is 635 00:48:49,350 --> 00:48:52,650 in a lost sinful condition, then he will never need a savior, and then 636 00:48:52,650 --> 00:48:58,316 he will be lost. “I don’t think anything has been done in the name 637 00:48:58,316 --> 00:49:01,149 of Christ that and under the banner of Christianity that has proven 638 00:49:01,150 --> 00:49:03,650 more destructive to human personality and, hence, 639 00:49:03,650 --> 00:49:07,683 counterproductive to the evangelism enterprise than the often crude, 640 00:49:07,683 --> 00:49:11,783 uncouth, and unchristian strategy of attempting to make people aware 641 00:49:11,783 --> 00:49:14,283 of their lost and sinful condition.” (Time, March 18, 1985). 642 00:49:14,283 --> 00:49:20,183 Wow, that’s disgusting. Well he goes further than that, 643 00:49:20,183 --> 00:49:24,249 let’s have a look at what he really consists of. “The most effective 644 00:49:24,250 --> 00:49:30,350 mantras employ the “M” sound. You can get the feel of it by 645 00:49:30,350 --> 00:49:35,416 repeating the words, “I am, I am” many times over…. 646 00:49:35,416 --> 00:49:38,916 Transcendental Meditation or TM… is not a religion nor is it 647 00:49:38,916 --> 00:49:41,249 necessarily anti-Christian.” (Peace of Mind Through Possibility 648 00:49:41,250 --> 00:49:43,250 Thinking, pp. 131-32). Wow, you can chant 649 00:49:43,250 --> 00:49:47,516 “I am, I am, I am”? What do you think about that? 650 00:49:47,516 --> 00:49:51,816 Now you’re saying I’m God, surely you don’t mean that mister 651 00:49:51,816 --> 00:49:56,082 Schuller, do you? Methodist, Anglican, all of them come 652 00:49:56,083 --> 00:49:59,949 together, they all begin to believe in life after death. 653 00:49:59,950 --> 00:50:04,316 Well here in self-esteem the new Reformation, Robert Schuller 654 00:50:04,316 --> 00:50:08,449 writes, “To be born again means that we must be changed from a 655 00:50:08,450 --> 00:50:13,416 negative to a positive self-image – from inferiority to self esteem, 656 00:50:13,416 --> 00:50:17,582 from fear to love, from doubt to trust. ……. And we can pray,” 657 00:50:17,583 --> 00:50:23,183 Note what mister Schuller says, Dr. Schuller, sorry, ‘Our Father in 658 00:50:23,183 --> 00:50:29,383 heaven, honorable is our name [emphasis in the original].” 659 00:50:29,383 --> 00:50:34,283 What is Robert Schuller saying? He’s saying he is God. 660 00:50:34,283 --> 00:50:43,149 Is this biblical or is it demonic theology, you tell me, you choose; 661 00:50:43,150 --> 00:50:49,283 it’s demonic. Who approves of his theology, who likes his theology? 662 00:50:49,283 --> 00:50:52,049 There it says, “Discover Your Possibilities” Robert Schuller, 663 00:50:52,050 --> 00:50:55,016 Positive, inspirational guidelines, who endorces it? 664 00:50:55,016 --> 00:51:01,216 “Dr. Schuller has an amazing ministry,” Dr. Billy Graham. 665 00:51:01,216 --> 00:51:09,049 Birds of a feather flock together. Who is Billy Graham? 666 00:51:09,050 --> 00:51:11,916 Here he is, one of the greatest preachers of our time, Christian in 667 00:51:11,916 --> 00:51:17,182 Winter, here he is with Nixon, “When you went into the ministry. 668 00:51:17,183 --> 00:51:21,116 Politics lost one of its potentially greatest practitioners.” 669 00:51:21,116 --> 00:51:25,449 Remember that Nixon had a Jesuit speech writer? Do you remember that? 670 00:51:25,450 --> 00:51:30,983 We showed you those quotes. And, you know if everybody loves 671 00:51:30,983 --> 00:51:36,049 you in the world, well; it gets kind of scary. 672 00:51:36,050 --> 00:51:40,783 Here he is at Madison Square Gardens, here he is at the U.S. 673 00:51:40,783 --> 00:51:44,583 Capital during the presentation of the Congressional Gold Medal that 674 00:51:44,583 --> 00:51:49,016 he received with Al Gore sitting there. “On receiving honorary 675 00:51:49,016 --> 00:51:52,916 doctorate from the Roman Catholic Belmont College, said the: 676 00:51:52,916 --> 00:51:57,016 “gospel that founded this college is the same gospel which I preach 677 00:51:57,016 --> 00:52:01,282 today.” Hello, Billy Graham, I thought you were a Protestant! 678 00:52:01,283 --> 00:52:07,683 Why are you teaching Catholicism? And please tell me, why in all 679 00:52:07,683 --> 00:52:13,216 your campaigns, do you have a team of 800 Catholic nuns and Jesuit 680 00:52:13,216 --> 00:52:16,949 priests and all kinds of people like that? And why after your 681 00:52:16,950 --> 00:52:20,650 campaign do you channel them to the Catholic priests to be incorporated 682 00:52:20,650 --> 00:52:27,550 into Catholicism? Why do you do that if you are a Protestant? 683 00:52:27,550 --> 00:52:31,350 “The Religious News Services reported on January 13, 1981, 684 00:52:31,350 --> 00:52:34,283 “Pope John Paul II was closeted for almost two hours with the 685 00:52:34,283 --> 00:52:38,149 Rev. Billy Graham, the world’s best-known Protestant evangelist.” 686 00:52:38,150 --> 00:52:41,450 Religious news service, there it is, there he is together with him, 687 00:52:41,450 --> 00:52:45,616 “the Pope is almost an evangelist” and here he is dressed in black, 688 00:52:45,616 --> 00:52:51,449 and the Pope dressed in white, talking together. 689 00:52:51,450 --> 00:52:54,750 It was through Billy Graham’s intervention that former President 690 00:52:54,750 --> 00:52:58,250 Ronald Reagan set up an ambassador to the Vatican. 691 00:52:58,250 --> 00:53:02,883 Against the Constitution of the United States. He has been the 692 00:53:02,883 --> 00:53:06,849 linking agent from the White House to Rome. Graham wrote, this is his 693 00:53:06,850 --> 00:53:10,250 own words, speaking for himself: “Reagan was the first American 694 00:53:10,250 --> 00:53:13,450 President to appoint a full ambassador to the Vatican. 695 00:53:13,450 --> 00:53:16,916 Before he made the appointment, he asked my view. I told him I thought 696 00:53:16,916 --> 00:53:20,549 it would probably be a good thing – in spite of a number of potential 697 00:53:20,550 --> 00:53:24,116 problems concerning the separation of church and state – and wrote an 698 00:53:24,116 --> 00:53:26,949 extended confidential letter outlining my reasons. 699 00:53:26,950 --> 00:53:30,483 Among other things, I told him I did not think it necessarily 700 00:53:30,483 --> 00:53:34,016 violated the separation of church and state. For whatever reasons, 701 00:53:34,016 --> 00:53:37,216 Mr. Reagan went ahead with the plan. Later my letter was leaked to the press. 702 00:53:37,216 --> 00:53:41,182 It caused some consternation among my Baptist friends.” 703 00:53:41,183 --> 00:53:45,216 Yes, of course it would cause a consternation, but his Baptist 704 00:53:45,216 --> 00:53:49,316 friends might not know what he his, because it is so well covered up in 705 00:53:49,316 --> 00:53:53,482 the world. If you want to read more about him, read Billy Graham and 706 00:53:53,483 --> 00:53:59,283 His Friends, “Robert Schuller’s 1986 Possibilities magazine had 707 00:53:59,283 --> 00:54:04,783 Templeton’s photo on the cover. ‘The lead article Templeton that 708 00:54:04,783 --> 00:54:09,316 ‘nothing exists except God’ (that’s pantheism) and that ‘the Christ 709 00:54:09,316 --> 00:54:12,616 spirit dwells in every human being whether the person knows it or not’ 710 00:54:12,616 --> 00:54:16,649 (that’s universalism).” Templeton, now who received the 711 00:54:16,650 --> 00:54:21,816 Templeton prize? Of course Billy Graham, “Graham told Schuller 712 00:54:21,816 --> 00:54:25,282 during an interview: ‘… whether they come from the Muslim world, or 713 00:54:25,283 --> 00:54:27,749 the Buddhist world, or the Christian world, they are members 714 00:54:27,750 --> 00:54:31,350 of the Body of Christ, because they’ve been called by God.’” 715 00:54:31,350 --> 00:54:35,483 Yes, you can be a member of the body of Christ in any of those 716 00:54:35,483 --> 00:54:42,383 religions if you unknowingly do what the law requires because your 717 00:54:42,383 --> 00:54:47,583 conscious dictates this, and God overlooks the ignorance of those 718 00:54:47,583 --> 00:54:55,349 who do not know. “The ignorance God winks at” but, if you know the law 719 00:54:55,350 --> 00:54:59,083 and you do it not, you will die, if you don’t know the law and you 720 00:54:59,083 --> 00:55:03,949 still break the law, you will also die; that means eternally. 721 00:55:03,950 --> 00:55:07,816 So Evangelicals and Catholics join forces eventually. 722 00:55:07,816 --> 00:55:12,416 And Pope John Paul II is decried as the Superstar of the world. 723 00:55:12,416 --> 00:55:16,216 “Pope deserves title of first citizen of the world.” 724 00:55:16,216 --> 00:55:19,849 Newsweek October 15, 1979. He said that in ’79 already. 725 00:55:19,850 --> 00:55:26,316 After September 11, ecumenism received a tremendous boost. 726 00:55:26,316 --> 00:55:29,616 All the religions stated coming together, the Moslem’s and the 727 00:55:29,616 --> 00:55:34,382 Protestant’s and the Catholics, they were all praying together. 728 00:55:34,383 --> 00:55:40,316 Death O’ Protestantism Foreseen. By 1997, the Episcopal church, 729 00:55:40,316 --> 00:55:45,316 with its bishop here, had the following to say, Bishop Adler, 730 00:55:45,316 --> 00:55:49,049 “the world of the Lord told us that what we are witnessing is the end 731 00:55:49,050 --> 00:55:52,916 of an era, that God is restoring His temple and that there would be 732 00:55:52,916 --> 00:55:58,582 a priesthood, an Episcopacy that was an apostolic succession – a 733 00:55:58,583 --> 00:56:02,216 main difference between Protestant and Catholicism.” 734 00:56:02,216 --> 00:56:08,516 Now this is this church, this is – basically the high church of 735 00:56:08,516 --> 00:56:12,249 England in the United States. Bishop Adler said 736 00:56:12,250 --> 00:56:15,550 “that after the sermon, he ‘stood up to give a prophetic word’ but 737 00:56:15,550 --> 00:56:20,383 fell on the floor and wept for 45 minutes.’ Then, he said, ‘We all 738 00:56:20,383 --> 00:56:24,216 sensed what God was saying to us – We were witnessing the end of 739 00:56:24,216 --> 00:56:29,682 Protestantism.’” And then he said “‘God’s church is Catholic!’ 740 00:56:29,683 --> 00:56:33,183 he declared. ‘It was Catholic in the beginning, and it will be 741 00:56:33,183 --> 00:56:39,083 Catholic in the end.” “Churches agree Pope has overall authority” 742 00:56:39,083 --> 00:56:43,983 isn’t that interesting? The Pope wrote this and he said in 743 00:56:43,983 --> 00:56:48,383 his Crossing the Threshold of Hope that by the year 2000 we will need 744 00:56:48,383 --> 00:56:54,683 to be more united. 1999, June: They wrote, “The Pope was recognized as 745 00:56:54,683 --> 00:56:57,549 the overall authority in the Christian world” 746 00:56:57,550 --> 00:57:02,183 in the Christian world entirely! “By an Anglican and Roman Catholic 747 00:57:02,183 --> 00:57:04,649 commission yesterday which described him as a 748 00:57:04,650 --> 00:57:11,350 “gift to be received by all the Churches”. Interesting, and then he 749 00:57:11,350 --> 00:57:14,450 has The Gift of Authority, “the 45-page document, The Gift of 750 00:57:14,450 --> 00:57:17,616 Authority, has been produced by the 18-member Anglican-Roman Catholic 751 00:57:17,616 --> 00:57:21,249 International Commission…” and it “concluded that the Bishop of Rome 752 00:57:21,250 --> 00:57:25,283 had a ‘specific ministry concerning the discernment of truth’” 753 00:57:25,283 --> 00:57:30,849 what does that mean? That he’s infallible, so the Protestant world 754 00:57:30,850 --> 00:57:37,183 has given up Protestantism. “Churches ‘should hold seances’” 755 00:57:37,183 --> 00:57:42,849 yes, who said that? This was the Anglican Church in England, now 756 00:57:42,850 --> 00:57:46,350 we’re ready for spiritism in the church, the churches are really 757 00:57:46,350 --> 00:57:52,316 falling! Falling! These are no longer prophetic words, these are 758 00:57:52,316 --> 00:57:56,082 false prophetic words, these are false prophets. 759 00:57:56,083 --> 00:58:00,483 They are preaching a lie. And in the next lecture it will 760 00:58:00,483 --> 00:58:05,416 become abundantly clear what is happening – don’t miss the next 761 00:58:05,416 --> 00:58:10,082 lecture, Strange Fire. We’ll see some videos which will 762 00:58:10,083 --> 00:58:16,249 be astounding. So, he said, what this Anglican priest said is that 763 00:58:16,250 --> 00:58:20,983 we can actually talk to the deceased, and maybe we can reach 764 00:58:20,983 --> 00:58:24,983 the atheists who died from the other side, and convince them now 765 00:58:24,983 --> 00:58:29,983 that you see there after all, you don’t have to be an atheist anymore. 766 00:58:29,983 --> 00:58:34,516 If that theology was true, couldn’t God do it? 767 00:58:34,516 --> 00:58:40,149 The Roman Catholic Controversy, James R. White, he’s a writer who 768 00:58:40,150 --> 00:58:44,183 says that “Today, well, are we coming together? 769 00:58:44,183 --> 00:58:46,783 There are many reasons why we should stay separate” 770 00:58:46,783 --> 00:58:50,416 he sees the problems. The Council of Trent said, 771 00:58:50,416 --> 00:58:54,949 “to check unbridled spirits, it decrees that no one relying on his 772 00:58:54,950 --> 00:58:58,550 own judgment shall, in matters of faith and morals pertaining to the 773 00:58:58,550 --> 00:59:02,116 edification of Christian doctrine, distorting the Holy Scriptures in 774 00:59:02,116 --> 00:59:05,282 accordance with his own conceptions, presume to interpret 775 00:59:05,283 --> 00:59:08,816 them contrary to that sense which holy mother Church, to whom it 776 00:59:08,816 --> 00:59:12,516 belongs to judge of their true sense and interpretation, has held 777 00:59:12,516 --> 00:59:16,682 and holds,” so only the church may tell you what to believe, you’re 778 00:59:16,683 --> 00:59:21,483 goyim, you’re too stupid to understand it yourself. Interesting. 779 00:59:21,483 --> 00:59:26,383 The papacy, has it changed? No, “refinement of evil” 780 00:59:26,383 --> 00:59:30,816 where the Pope outlines that every single ancient doctrine held by 781 00:59:30,816 --> 00:59:35,782 Rome will be held. Therefore can I be part of the ecumenical movement, 782 00:59:35,783 --> 00:59:41,516 yes or no? I cannot be, because I cannot accept this as my spiritual 783 00:59:41,516 --> 00:59:48,082 leader. I have one leader and his name happens to be Jesus Christ. 784 00:59:48,083 --> 00:59:52,216 He’s the only leader I have, and I have one creed, and that creed 785 00:59:52,216 --> 00:59:56,749 happens to be the Bible and the Bible alone. That’s my creed, 786 00:59:56,750 --> 01:00:00,616 otherwise I have no standard whatsoever. “Keeper of the Straight 787 01:00:00,616 --> 01:00:04,349 and Narrow” there’s Cardinal Ratzinger, German-born Cardinal 788 01:00:04,350 --> 01:00:07,683 Joseph Ratzinger, head of the “Congregation for Doctrine and 789 01:00:07,683 --> 01:00:12,816 Faith.” They make sure that every ancient Catholic doctrine remains 790 01:00:12,816 --> 01:00:18,516 and that no Protestant even recognizes it, they’re so sneaky. 791 01:00:18,516 --> 01:00:26,416 Here is Cardinal Küng, and these people Hans Küng, all they want to 792 01:00:26,416 --> 01:00:30,716 do is bring about ecumenism. So they make lots of Protestant 793 01:00:30,716 --> 01:00:35,316 noises, didn’t the Jesuits say that “if you want to win someone, make 794 01:00:35,316 --> 01:00:40,349 his noises,” yes or no? Yes, don’t trust them one little bit. 795 01:00:40,350 --> 01:00:45,983 By 1986 we had the Council of Assisi and all the religions of the 796 01:00:45,983 --> 01:00:50,816 world were present. That included Islam, Hinduism, all these 797 01:00:50,816 --> 01:00:56,049 religions; they all came together at Assisi, there’s the Pope, there 798 01:00:56,050 --> 01:01:01,216 are the patriarchs, there’s Runcy, there’s the Dalai Lama, Hinduism, 799 01:01:01,216 --> 01:01:07,549 Buddhism, every single thing was present, where? At Assisi. 800 01:01:07,550 --> 01:01:11,616 Do you know what’s interesting? After the Council of Assisi there 801 01:01:11,616 --> 01:01:17,516 came an earthquake, and the whole Cathedral collapsed, 802 01:01:17,516 --> 01:01:25,416 it’s almost like God said “gyt bmph” guess what they did, they 803 01:01:25,416 --> 01:01:31,416 instantly rebuilt it to its former glory; instantly, immediately it 804 01:01:31,416 --> 01:01:38,549 stands as an icon to Assisi, and that this Assisi meeting in ’86, 805 01:01:38,550 --> 01:01:44,083 the first rot started of accepting the papacy as the ultimate. 806 01:01:44,083 --> 01:01:48,649 By 1999 this is what happened, United Nations of Faith moved 807 01:01:48,650 --> 01:01:51,983 Mountains. Article appeared in a Belgian national newspaper “Le Soir”, 808 01:01:51,983 --> 01:01:56,383 dated 30th August 2000. “A general rehearsal is taking 809 01:01:56,383 --> 01:01:59,783 place at the highest level, in a forum where the Supreme Being, 810 01:01:59,783 --> 01:02:03,416 grand architect, - that’s Masonic language - or watchmaker of the 811 01:02:03,416 --> 01:02:07,116 universe, if he exists at all – they’re derogatory – is to 812 01:02:07,116 --> 01:02:10,116 recognize his own…” at a time when the United Nations will shortly 813 01:02:10,116 --> 01:02:14,216 host the summit of the millennium, with the presence of the heads of 814 01:02:14,216 --> 01:02:19,649 state of the entire world, all the world’s religious leaders have been 815 01:02:19,650 --> 01:02:23,216 gathering in New York” how much of the world’s religious 816 01:02:23,216 --> 01:02:29,349 leaders? All “to discuss the most important theme of world peace and 817 01:02:29,350 --> 01:02:34,616 tolerance.” “The more distant object: to create a kind of United 818 01:02:34,616 --> 01:02:38,216 Nations of Faith”. “Where the representatives of faith 819 01:02:38,216 --> 01:02:41,182 and philosophies could meet and in order to discuss the future 820 01:02:41,183 --> 01:02:46,849 together, whilst abandoning their fatwas, theses, and other terrible 821 01:02:46,850 --> 01:02:51,383 arms of excommunication and exclusion and relegating them to 822 01:02:51,383 --> 01:02:55,916 the cloak room.” Let’s get away from our separateness, let’s come 823 01:02:55,916 --> 01:03:00,549 together. “This is a very noble ‘ecumenical initiative’,” 824 01:03:00,550 --> 01:03:06,583 sponsored by whom? “Ted Turner,” A 33 degree Freemason, who hates 825 01:03:06,583 --> 01:03:10,416 Christianity, who funded the initiative. He is vice-president of 826 01:03:10,416 --> 01:03:14,316 Time Warner, founder of CNN. And “for every sin there is grace: ten 827 01:03:14,316 --> 01:03:18,149 years ago, the flamboyant boss of instantaneous television 828 01:03:18,150 --> 01:03:21,283 had declared that Christianity was nothing but an affair for ‘losers 829 01:03:21,283 --> 01:03:25,349 and freaks’…” Ok, so he still believes it, now why would Ted 830 01:03:25,350 --> 01:03:30,050 Turner finance something like that? Because he says Jane Fonda, his 831 01:03:30,050 --> 01:03:34,183 wife turned Christian, and that changed his mind? I don’t think so. 832 01:03:34,183 --> 01:03:37,849 I think it’s because he’s a 33 degree Freemason, and they have an 833 01:03:37,850 --> 01:03:44,316 agenda. Well, “2000 representatives of very well, or less known 834 01:03:44,316 --> 01:03:47,749 religions, the ones which are practiced the world over, or which 835 01:03:47,750 --> 01:03:50,883 are almost an affair of confidence, only known in the corridors of the 836 01:03:50,883 --> 01:03:56,249 UN, or the spiffing Waldorf Astoria hotel, which will be used for the 837 01:03:56,250 --> 01:04:00,450 subsequent meetings and work. The pope sent the African cardinal 838 01:04:00,450 --> 01:04:04,883 Francis Arzine, president of the pontifical council for interfaith 839 01:04:04,883 --> 01:04:09,749 dialogue, representing the Jewish faith was the Chief Rabbi Lau of 840 01:04:09,750 --> 01:04:12,616 Jerusalem, the Buddhists were deprived of the presence of the 841 01:04:12,616 --> 01:04:16,349 Dalai Lama. This shows that religion is never far removed from 842 01:04:16,350 --> 01:04:19,416 politics: China threatened to boycott the meeting if he went.” 843 01:04:19,416 --> 01:04:21,449 That’s just a game they’re playing. 844 01:04:21,450 --> 01:04:25,050 Well, the initiative, “Bishop Desmond Tutu” 845 01:04:25,050 --> 01:04:29,483 said, let’s go ahead with it, and “in the US and in particular in 846 01:04:29,483 --> 01:04:33,383 circles of the UN, the “first” initiative has been very welcomed. 847 01:04:33,383 --> 01:04:38,849 Nevertheless, one needs to render to Caesar, or rather to 848 01:04:38,850 --> 01:04:44,083 John-Paul II, his dues. It is indeed thanks to him that the way of 849 01:04:44,083 --> 01:04:48,183 reconciliation was started at Assisi in 1985.” 850 01:04:48,183 --> 01:04:55,183 Culminating in that meeting in 1986. Well the Pope then May 2001 851 01:04:55,183 --> 01:04:59,983 visited the famous Mosque in Damascus, “John Paul II made 852 01:04:59,983 --> 01:05:03,349 history on Sunday by becoming the first Pontiff ever to enter a 853 01:05:03,350 --> 01:05:07,850 mosque, and urged Christians and Muslims to forgive each other.” 854 01:05:07,850 --> 01:05:10,383 That’s the mosque, remember I showed it to you; 855 01:05:10,383 --> 01:05:18,083 the famous mosque in Damascus, and we walked through it. 856 01:05:18,083 --> 01:05:26,516 And, we look at this amazing structure with these people having 857 01:05:26,516 --> 01:05:31,749 the same rituals as in Roman Catholicism, and you will remember 858 01:05:31,750 --> 01:05:36,250 that we spoke about the head of John the Baptist that is stored in 859 01:05:36,250 --> 01:05:39,783 this mosque. So it’s significant that the Pope went to that 860 01:05:39,783 --> 01:05:44,883 particular mosque to go and seek reconciliation. 861 01:05:44,883 --> 01:05:48,683 Although reconciliation is just a word for the goyim, the outside; 862 01:05:48,683 --> 01:05:54,583 the inside has always been reconciled. And we know already 863 01:05:54,583 --> 01:05:58,816 that the pope then kissed the Koran. So the initiative is to bring all 864 01:05:58,816 --> 01:06:03,582 the religions, this is a symbol of the religions dancing together, a 865 01:06:03,583 --> 01:06:09,149 symbol of Judaism, and Buddhism, and Christianity, and Hinduism and 866 01:06:09,150 --> 01:06:13,750 all of them coming together in a one great big happy family. 867 01:06:13,750 --> 01:06:17,750 This is the title page of Rotarian Bishop Lehman’s document for 868 01:06:17,750 --> 01:06:23,183 “World Peace Day” and the emblem of the “World Conference of Religions.” 869 01:06:23,183 --> 01:06:28,449 Hinduism, Buddhism, and finally we have a parliament 870 01:06:28,450 --> 01:06:33,416 of world religions; now this parliament of world religions is an 871 01:06:33,416 --> 01:06:39,849 outcome of the Assisi meeting, and this was their Africa day; 872 01:06:39,850 --> 01:06:42,750 they have the sun symbol in the middle, there are interesting 873 01:06:42,750 --> 01:06:47,816 symbols in this. So at this interfaith meeting in 1999, 874 01:06:47,816 --> 01:06:51,782 “as reported the Associated Press, with the Dalai Lama, sitting by his 875 01:06:51,783 --> 01:06:56,783 right side, this October [1999]” there was another meeting 876 01:06:56,783 --> 01:07:01,216 “in Rome the Pope presided at a special council of some 2000 877 01:07:01,216 --> 01:07:05,649 religious leaders of various faiths, sects, and cults.” 878 01:07:05,650 --> 01:07:09,783 Now I’m going to show you a video of that in a moment of what happened there. 879 01:07:09,783 --> 01:07:13,249 “The Pontiff told the assembled Buddhist monks, Zoroastrian 880 01:07:13,250 --> 01:07:17,716 priests, Catholic cardinals, Hindu gurus, American Indian shamen, 881 01:07:17,716 --> 01:07:21,682 Jewish rabbis, and ecumenical clergy” that’s all the Protestants 882 01:07:21,683 --> 01:07:27,816 that there are, “that all must join in condemning” who? 883 01:07:27,816 --> 01:07:33,316 “The Christian fundamentalists” wow, I thought the problems were 884 01:07:33,316 --> 01:07:37,682 elsewhere, but he obviously has an inside tact so he knows who the 885 01:07:37,683 --> 01:07:43,083 real problem people are. It’s the Christian fundamentalists, why? 886 01:07:43,083 --> 01:07:48,116 Because they commit the ultimate crime of telling people about who? 887 01:07:48,116 --> 01:07:49,649 Jesus. 888 01:07:49,650 --> 01:07:52,783 Don’t you think there’s a total onslaught on Jesus Christ? 889 01:07:52,783 --> 01:07:55,483 I believe there is. 890 01:07:55,483 --> 01:08:00,416 “Christian fundamentalists who ‘abuse speech’ and whose efforts at 891 01:08:00,416 --> 01:08:04,349 converting others ‘incite hatred and violence.’” 892 01:08:04,350 --> 01:08:10,350 Didn’t Miss Kyung say the same thing, yes or no? 893 01:08:10,350 --> 01:08:13,916 She said the same thing at the World Council of Churches. 894 01:08:13,916 --> 01:08:18,216 So we want unity, but please let this unity be on a universal 895 01:08:18,216 --> 01:08:25,616 Christ, just leave Jesus out of this. This is an attack on Jesus Christ. 896 01:08:25,616 --> 01:08:31,416 “All present were in accord on two key points: (1) Pope John 897 01:08:31,416 --> 01:08:36,682 Paul II was endorsed by consensus as the planet’s chief spiritual 898 01:08:36,683 --> 01:08:42,616 guide and overseer;” that’s interesting. “And (2) Religious 899 01:08:42,616 --> 01:08:46,149 fundamentalists who refuse to go along with the global ecumenical 900 01:08:46,149 --> 01:08:53,716 movement” that would include me for example, “are to be silenced.” 901 01:08:53,716 --> 01:08:56,816 So who knows how many times you can still hear this message, 902 01:08:56,816 --> 01:09:01,316 “they must be denounced as ‘dangerous extremists full of hate.’” 903 01:09:01,316 --> 01:09:02,515 (True bible believers denounced at Papal Conference. 904 01:09:02,515 --> 01:09:03,549 Power of Prophecy (March 2000, Vol. 2000-03, p. 3). 905 01:09:03,550 --> 01:09:07,416 That’s why we have hate laws, you’re not supposed to preach this 906 01:09:07,416 --> 01:09:11,482 message, you’re not supposed to preach that Jesus Christ is Lord, 907 01:09:11,483 --> 01:09:16,383 then you are a dangerous extremist full of hate. Well I figured I better 908 01:09:16,383 --> 01:09:19,849 preach it before we can no longer preach it. 909 01:09:19,850 --> 01:09:22,515 And that’s why I’m here to tell you about these things. 910 01:09:22,515 --> 01:09:25,982 The onslaught is not against me, the onslaught is against the Lord. 911 01:09:25,983 --> 01:09:28,716 And he predicted that this was going to happen. 912 01:09:28,716 --> 01:09:32,182 Well let’s have a look at this Masonic meeting, you will see three 913 01:09:32,183 --> 01:09:36,883 candles in this meeting, that’s Masonic. They light the solar 914 01:09:36,883 --> 01:09:40,983 candles, which are little covered candles, which are used in Hinduism 915 01:09:40,983 --> 01:09:44,049 for example as solar candles, and in Buddhism and in Eastern 916 01:09:44,050 --> 01:09:50,015 mysticism. And you will see that they use all kinds of music, just 917 01:09:50,015 --> 01:09:54,782 like the Bible said. In fact the main rock band of Italy gave the 918 01:09:54,783 --> 01:09:59,016 background music at the ceremony on the one stage with the papacy on 919 01:09:59,016 --> 01:10:03,016 the other stage. And ever religious leader of note in the world was 920 01:10:03,016 --> 01:10:08,449 there of every religion to bow down and give homage to the pope. 921 01:10:08,450 --> 01:10:11,175 Interesting, let’s watch it. 922 01:11:35,116 --> 01:11:37,649 He looks so smug doesn’t he? 923 01:11:37,650 --> 01:11:43,583 Well here they all are, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, Shintuism, 924 01:11:43,583 --> 01:11:47,449 Soca Gaya, all of them, Protestantism, all of them bowing 925 01:11:47,450 --> 01:11:51,283 down acknowledging the pope. Now didn’t the Bible say that the 926 01:11:51,283 --> 01:11:56,416 whole world would wonder after him, yes or no? And that she would not 927 01:11:56,416 --> 01:11:59,216 suffer loss of children, didn’t the Bible say that? 928 01:11:59,216 --> 01:12:03,516 Judaism was there, all the religions were there. 929 01:12:03,516 --> 01:12:10,716 Now this means that we are very very close to the close of time. 930 01:12:10,716 --> 01:12:13,449 This is an interesting picture that was published once by Der 931 01:12:13,450 --> 01:12:20,716 Spiegel, Der Spiegel, and here you have a statue of Caesar showing a 932 01:12:20,716 --> 01:12:25,216 finger; that’s actually a Masonic thing, but never mind there he does it. 933 01:12:25,216 --> 01:12:29,882 Then you have Mussolini on the other side giving the finger. 934 01:12:29,883 --> 01:12:34,083 And then they have Rom here, “Der Papst, Die Kirche Und Die 935 01:12:34,083 --> 01:12:39,016 Sunde” the Pope, the Church, and the Sin, and they have the Pope 936 01:12:39,016 --> 01:12:43,616 over there in full sun worship regalia; and then they have the 937 01:12:43,616 --> 01:12:48,349 prostitute. It’s almost like they know something right? 938 01:12:48,350 --> 01:12:53,916 This prostitute, the Bible says, is the woman that rides the beast, 939 01:12:53,916 --> 01:12:59,949 the great prostituted that is over the nations; and all the kings of 940 01:12:59,950 --> 01:13:05,416 the world give their power unto the beast. We’ve seen that the ruling 941 01:13:05,416 --> 01:13:09,916 powers in the world actually come from very few families today, 942 01:13:09,916 --> 01:13:15,249 highly occult families. “And the woman which thou sawest is 943 01:13:15,250 --> 01:13:18,750 that great city, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.” 944 01:13:18,750 --> 01:13:23,916 Revelation 17:18. “And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, 945 01:13:23,916 --> 01:13:28,849 Come out of her, my people that ye be not partakers of her sins, and 946 01:13:28,850 --> 01:13:33,583 that ye receive not of her plagues.” Revelations 18:4. 947 01:13:33,583 --> 01:13:39,216 What do you think they have planned for those who harbor a 948 01:13:39,216 --> 01:13:42,982 spirit of separateness? What do you think they have 949 01:13:42,983 --> 01:13:47,083 planned for those who say, who say, like the Bible says: 950 01:13:47,083 --> 01:13:52,649 “Come out and be separate that you receive not her plagues,” 951 01:13:52,650 --> 01:13:57,550 so that you don’t take part in her sins. What do you think will be 952 01:13:57,550 --> 01:14:02,850 their conclusion about such a matter? I think this is a very very 953 01:14:02,850 --> 01:14:07,516 serious issue, and we’re going to have lectures on this when we get 954 01:14:07,516 --> 01:14:13,116 there. We’ll see what their final plans are, and who they actually 955 01:14:13,116 --> 01:14:20,549 pinpoint as opposition, that would be interesting, don’t you think? 956 01:14:20,550 --> 01:14:24,883 We’ll let them speak for themselves, in the meantime as for 957 01:14:24,883 --> 01:14:31,583 me and my house, I cannot join this ecumenical council, and I would 958 01:14:31,583 --> 01:14:37,183 like to uplift Jesus Christ to you tonight as the only Savior on this 959 01:14:37,183 --> 01:14:43,616 world and follow the biblical way and none will be lost. 960 01:14:43,616 --> 01:14:49,115 That is his promise, why not take him at his word? Amen.