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it says kilo newtons
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and after this video you will have much
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better understanding than probably 99
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of the rest of the climbers what these
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kilonewtons
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actually mean and what forces are
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involved in real climbing falls
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and then i will explain why big big
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whippers
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are often much softer than small falls
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but first let's find out what is force
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i like to play with my instagram
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followers so i decided to ask them
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what comes to their mind when we hear a
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word
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force half of the people said that it
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has something to do with star wars
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fair enough and then before you start
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thinking that
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half of my instagram followers are
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really smart
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i have to say that majority of them
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didn't vote it at all
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so i imagined something like what is
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force
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okay but those who wanted to sound smart
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said that
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force is mass times acceleration which
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is the formula that newton
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this guy came up with and that's why we
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measure
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force in newtons which to me is a little
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bit funny when you think about it
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imagine newton
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so we measure mass in kilograms
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and we measure acceleration
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in meters per second squared
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and we should measure force
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in newtons
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so to put this formula into perspective
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it's like
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one newton this guy is pushing
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one kilogram of mass and that
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makes that mass to accelerate by one
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meter per second
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every second so here i have a carabiner
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and if i put all my weight on it
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like so the question is what's the force
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right now into this carabiner
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so if we look back to the formula we can
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say that
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mass is my mass multiplied by
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acceleration what acceleration i'm
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hanging on a tree there is no
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movement no acceleration or
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is there an acceleration
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okay so you've probably seen this
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experiment before
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i have heavy object and a light object
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and the question is if i let go both of
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them at the same time
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which one is going to hit the ground
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first
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let's try
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so yes we fell at the same time because
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that's what gravity does it makes
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objects fall at exactly the same
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acceleration of 9.8 meters per second
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per second
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so when i'm hanging on this carabiner
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gravity is pulling me down
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but in order for me to not move down
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there must be
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opposite force which would be pulling me
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up
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here i have a spring while the gravity
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is pulling the rock down the spring is
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pulling the rock
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up so the carabiner is actually like a
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very very stiff spring
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which is pulling me up the molecules of
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the carabiner when i'm hanging on it
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are being spread apart but they like to
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stay together so we kind of
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pull back you can't see this expansion
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of the quick draw on low forces
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but you can on big ones
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and so it turns out that this carabiner
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has to accelerate
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my weight up at the same 9.8 meters per
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second
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squared which turns out to be about 600
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newtons
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yep 600 of these need to
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hold one skinny guy like me
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okay moving on this quick draw says
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that it can hold up to 26 kilonewtons
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kilonewton is basically a thousand
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newtons
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so it means that it could hold about
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40 me i wish i would have a clone
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machine so i could
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demonstrate this to you
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and then imagine how many videos all of
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this
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me could create
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so if you want to see us create more
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videos like this
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click the join button it really helps
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and i promise i will spend every single
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penny i get from you guys
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on buying a clone machine
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okay so you can hang 40 me
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on one single carabiner that's pretty
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impressive
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although there are things that you must
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know first of all
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all of these ratings are for new
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equipment
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wear and tear does not go into that
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rating
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how bad is that well i asked my friend
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ryan from youtube channel how not to
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highline because he has a hobby
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of breaking stuff and according to his
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tests most of the metals tend to last
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pretty well
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although with soft things things are
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totally different black diamond sling
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with a
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22 kilonewton mbs
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what what was the mbs on is 22
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kilonewtons yeah
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yep a sling rated at 22 kilonewtons
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broke at six and here's another one
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that's a great condition would not whip
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no not whip i would tie my dog to this
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though
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all right i wouldn't tie a very big dog
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to that
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hold on let's see how big of a dog could
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you have tied
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with this oh uh
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chihuahua yeah so if you're one of these
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people who like to save money
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and use very old worn down slings
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good luck 24 kilonewtons
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that did not stretch that much oh i
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guess
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guess four kilonewtons
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what z [ __ ] man 4
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000 newtons okay how much does
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such sling can hold well that's pretty
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easy just divide 4 000 newtons by
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9.8 or if you want easier by 10
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and you get 400 kilograms
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that sounds quite a lot no 400 kilograms
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well all of these conversions from
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force to kilograms that i have been
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talking so far
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are based on the fact that the weight is
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hanging statically
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once the thing starts falling everything
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changes
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so what you have just seen is a clip
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from dmm
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where they dropped 80 kilograms of mass
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and that broke a brand new dyneema sling
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now my goal is not to scare you it's the
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opposite i want to bring the awareness
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that climbing gear is
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not magic and if you use it incorrectly
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it might fail
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fun fact do you know this joke that
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climbers like to say when they fail on
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their climbs
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but today is a high gravity day
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well turns out that's true gravity does
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change from month to month
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so if you are one of those people who
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like to complain that
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today is a bad humidity or bad
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temperature now you have a right to
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complain that today is a bad gravity day
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yay okay let's see what happens when
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objects like us climbers start
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falling
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that was a 10 meters fall
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let's see how much force such fall would
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generate to the climber
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the formula for that would be similar to
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what we had before
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except that we need to multiply this by
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the distance the climber was
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falling and divide by the distance the
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climber was slowing
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down
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and did you actually notice how soft the
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fall for the climber was
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so imagine driving a car in the highway
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and pressing on the brake gently
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while you come to a stop no problems
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right
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now imagine you're not driving so fast
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you're in a city you're
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driving slowly but you slam on a brick
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that would not feel very nice right
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so here is the first thing i want you to
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remember out of this video
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the impact to the climber will always be
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the product of the distance the climber
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was falling
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divided by the distance of the slowdown
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phase
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so let's calculate the falling distance
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was about
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four quick draws and the slow down
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distance
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was about two and a half quickdraws and
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we get about 860 newtons
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or if we would replace her with a
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standard 80 kilogram climber
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that would be about 1.3
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kilonewtons which is not much although
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this formula has a little problem
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because it will always give you
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the value which is slightly lower than
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it would be in
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real life but showing you how to
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calculate more precisely would mean that
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most of you would probably just leave
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this video right here
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but we don't need to do that because we
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can rely on real life
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experimental data and who is the boss at
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providing such data for us
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hi i'm ryan jinx and and that's enough
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advertisement for you
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what we did in this video they put a
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device measuring the force on the
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climber
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and made a series of falls
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that puts me in 1.87
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so most of the falls that in my opinion
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would be a good delaying example
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where below 2 kilonewtons now let's take
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a look at these two
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extreme examples climber on the left is
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5 meters above the bolt
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so that would be 10 meters full plus the
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slack in the system
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the belayer probably has about one meter
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of slack
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and then there is probably one more
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meter of slack
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in between the quick draws so in total
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we are looking at
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12 meters fall while climber on the
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right is only one meter above the bolt
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and let's say that the belayer is really
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afraid and he's going to give a very
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hard catch for the climber
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so we are looking at 2 meters fall
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so a massive 12 meters fall or a small
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2 meters fall which one do you think is
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gonna be softer for the climber
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well let's see we know how much the
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climbers will fall but now we need to
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find out the
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slow down distances for both of the
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cases
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and that depends mainly on two things
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first
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is the displacement of the belayer on a
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big big whipper
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the belayer will probably fly about 2
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meters
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while on a small fall let's assume very
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common mistake for beginners
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where the belayer just takes the slack
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out and delays very hard
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and the second factor is the stretch of
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the rope
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rope manufacturers claim that if you put
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80 kilogram
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mass on a dynamic rope statically
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like so without movement the rope will
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stretch
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10 percent and dynamic stretch when you
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take elite fall
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is up to 30 percent well
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up to 30 percent is not very helpful for
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us what we need to know
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is the stretch of this rope from two to
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four kilonewtons force that's where the
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lead falls are
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and yet again i was texting ryan so i'm
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gonna pull
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some dynamic rope to see how much it
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stretches at first we thought it's gonna
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be very easy just go to the park stretch
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the rope to different forces
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and measure the elongation of the rope
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well sometimes easy is
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hard when you stretch the rope to
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certain force and leave it there
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the force will start dropping on the
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rope the rope kind of just
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gives up while this is very interesting
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it's not critical for us
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the only thing he needed to do is to
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pull the rope as fast as he can to
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desired force
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and measure the stretch okay
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oh my god that's the seven mark
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6.9 meters
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it stretches when you pull it a dynamic
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rope
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to four kilonewtons but then there is
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another interesting factor
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once you load the rope to high forces it
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takes
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some time for the rope to get back to
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its original length
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this is what's known as rope resting and
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it was really cool to see this in action
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see the graveyard getting pulled back
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slowly
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super interesting probably way more
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interesting
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to me than it is to you right now so
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after he spent like four hours in the
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park pulling the ropes
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the results were that on forces from two
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to four kilonewtons
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the rope stretched to about 20 percent
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great so let's use that in our
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calculations
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on a big fall we have 27 meters of rope
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in total
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so that would be 5.4 meters of stretch
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while in a small fall we have 5 meters
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of rope
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and that would be 1 meter of stretch
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however our belayer is panicking and
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taking heart
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so he will take half of that stretch for
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himself
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leaving only half a meter of stretch for
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the climber
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and tadam the big big whipper
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will be two and a half times softer for
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the climber than a small fall
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oh i love fun facts here's another one
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imagine that you were climbing
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and failed but humidity was good
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temperature was good even the gravity
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was good that day
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you can still blame the moon negligibly
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but truly you weigh about a millionth of
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your weight
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less when the moon is directly above you
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so if you want to send
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climb when the moon is directly above
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you
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you're welcome i remember i was
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projecting this really long route of
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35 meters and the first time i managed
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to link all the cruxes and arrive at the
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anchor
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the moment when i was pulling the rope
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up to clip the anchor
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my belayer couldn't see me very well so
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he just gave me a lot of slack
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and on top of that the bolt before the
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anchor
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was really far really ran out
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so while i was dragging the rope up i
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lost my balance
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and took a fall the wall is flying in
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front of me and i'm thinking why i'm
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still
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falling this is unusual when i stopped
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and looked up it was maybe five or six
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quick draws above me probably about
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15 meters of fall but
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the fall was super soft it's like riding
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an
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elevator so here is another takeaway out
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of this video
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if the climber is really high up he has
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a lot of rope to absorb the fall
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so as long as he doesn't fall onto
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something
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the fall will be soft no matter how you
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blade that
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however if the climber is not so high he
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doesn't have so much rope to absorb the
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fall
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then soft dynamic bling is really
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important and you can ask any light
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climber how many times we had their
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ankles
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broken due to hard catches okay let's
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switch gears a little bit let's talk
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about
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friction because the more friction you
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have
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the harder the fall for the climber will
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be
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and here is very extreme example of that
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as you can see right here
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we z dragged it and so we're gonna have
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a lot of friction
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when i fall for science
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so when you have a lot of friction the
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rope close to the climber
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stretches normally but the rope closer
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to belayer
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doesn't stretch that much it's like
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having shorter rope and heavier belayer
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at the same time
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and although the force to the harness
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was only two and a half kilonewtons
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a lot of the force went pendulum into
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the wall
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and that's how we break ankles so
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extending the quickdraws not only helps
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you to clip and avoid situations like
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this
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but also reduces the impact forces for
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the climbers
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ok let's circle back to dmm test
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breaking the sling the nema slings are
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very static they don't stretch
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at all and i hope that by now you
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understand that this sudden stop can
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create a
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huge forces if not ask somebody to slap
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you
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this stop on the face will be basically
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what you need to understand so
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let's make a very wild and probably very
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inaccurate guess
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but this sling would stretch to about 5
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centimeters so if we drop 80 kilograms
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of mass
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the distance of 120 centimeters
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and the absorption distance is only 5
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centimeters
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we are looking at 19 kilo newtons
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if that is not gonna break the sling
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it's definitely gonna break
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you whoa if you're still watching that
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probably means that you should be
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at least a little bit geeky so here is a
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dessert for you
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there is no gravity yeah
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objects don't attract each other there
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is
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only space time you feel as though
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you're being pushed
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into the ground not because of a force
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called gravity
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but because time is moving faster for
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your head
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than for your feet this and all the
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other resources that i use to create
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