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This mountain of rubble is a monument
to the 1100 lives lost here last April,
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when this garment factory
collapsed in Bangladesh,
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unleashing the stories that
has long been locked inside.
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A thousand people died and
no one said a thing.
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Do you recognize these shorts?
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We meet the people who make your clothes,
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and find out where those cloths were made.
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This your address.
This is where this came from.
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The truth that retailers don't
want you to know.
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You've been hit. You've been hit.
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Do any of you worry that one day
you may die in your factory?
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Of course. Of course.
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Dangerous factories.
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And dark secrets.
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Hi, I'm Mark Kelly and welcome
to "The Fifth Estate."
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I'm standing by the rubble
of what was once Rana Plaza.
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When the 8-story factory
collapsed in April,
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a frantic search for survivors began.
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So too did the search for answers.
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How, the world wondered, could a
disaster like this happen?
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We'll join that search when
we learned many of the victims
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died here making cloths for
Canadian consumers.
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Along the way, we uncovered this ledger
pulled from the rubble
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and using the information inside here
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we spent months piecing together clues
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that would reveal how and where
your cloths are being made.
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And what we would also discover is that
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the disaster that happened here
was no accident.
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Fashion is built on an image
of beauty, glamour and style.
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Creations that not only make you
look good, but feel good.
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Cloths without a conscience.
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The reality of the fashion
industry is far less glamorous.
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A reality Canadian retailers
don't want you to know about.
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It's known as the race to the bottom,
where the cheapest prices win.
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A race that created fast fashion.
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And that's why today, many of your cloths
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bear the label made in Bangladesh.
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It was that glamour
of the fashion industry
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that spoke to Sujeet Sennik.
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Even as a teenager Growing up in
the suburb in Toronto.
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I'm from a South Asian family.
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My father is a doctor.
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And they wanted me to sort of
follow that path.
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I was super creative,
so it was a way for me to say,
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hey listen, there's a job for me.
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It's an actual commercial career.
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He went to a couture school and
turned a dream into a dream job:
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designing for Christian Dior and
Balenciaga in Paris.
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It was like a fish finding a pond.
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It gave me a way out,
a way to, you know, lead my own life.
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It gave me my freedom,
and it gave me everything.
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But the growing popularity and
increasing demand for fast fashion
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led him back to Toronto to design
$20 blouses for Walmart.
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Instead of Paris, his fashion
focus was Bangladesh.
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There was a natural flow
towards Bangladesh
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because of fast fashion
in the last ten years.
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And trying to get clothes
cheaper and cheaper.
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But I think when the recession
hit people ran for the price,
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you know, it was Mecca.
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It was Mecca.
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But the road to Mecca decimated
Canada's garment industry.
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From 2001 to 2010, 75,000 jobs
were lost here.
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Many deep-rooted manufacturers
had a stark choice...
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Move or close.
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My great-grandfather was a rag dealer.
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He used to go from Sherbrooke to
Montreal in a horse and buggy,
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buying rags from the farmers.
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Barry Laxer's family has been
in the garments business
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in Montreal and Toronto
for 3 generations
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but he was forced to
pack it all up for price.
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My single largest customer
that at the time in Canada
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accounted for over 50% of our volume
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told us that to continue doing business
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we need to find a lower cost
manufacturing base somewhere else.
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And that was Bangladesh.
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It turned out to be Bangladesh.
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Companies around the world were
now beating a path to Bangladesh.
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From H&M to Walmart, Nike and the GAP.
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Barry Laxer joined that garment Gold Rush.
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Today, his company Radical Designs
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runs two factories outside Dhaka,
the capital of Bangladesh.
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At least half the machines in
this factory all came from Canada.
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We had like 80 containers of
machinery that came here.
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You just rushed it over
here to do business.
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We just, it wasn't doing
anything in Toronto.
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Now he employed more than 1000 people
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and he pays them 3 times the minimum wage.
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When you own a factory,
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nothing is better than walking
through and seeing it full.
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And busy.
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And busy, yeah.
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You've built quite an empire here, Barry.
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What's the allure for companies
to come to Bangladesh?
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Here, the real allure is labour.
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The workers will work for wages
that most countries won't,
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because there's no alternative.
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Working for next to nothing is
better than working for nothing.
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In real terms, next to nothing
is $38 a month...
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or 24 cents an hour.
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The lowest garment worker
wage on the planet.
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The floodgates for
Canadian business opened
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when Ottawa dropped import duties
from Bangladesh in 2003.
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Canadian companies like Lululemon,
HBC and Walmart Canada
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climbed aboard the Bangladeshi band wagon.
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The result, imports grew by 618%.
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Some say the front-runner
in the race to the bottom
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was Loblaw brand Joe Fresh.
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These TV ads shows the appeal of
its cheap and cheerful clothing line.
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The line has bounced its way to
one of the top spots
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in the children's wear market in Canada.
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Speaking to the CBC in 2010
the company president said
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he's just giving consumers
what they want.
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They wanted fashion,
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and they wanted fashion
that would play across the country
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and they needed it
at amazing price points.
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Joseph Mimran was now
a fast fashion icon.
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But just how low could prices go?
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Well look at this TV Ad for Walmart.
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Clearly, the lower the better.
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Now more styles, and more stylish
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all at unbelievable prices
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Exclusively at Walmart.
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For designers like Sujeet Sennik,
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beauty took a backseat to price.
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What was the pressure put on you
to make cheaper and cheaper clothes?
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Price is the starting point.
It's everything.
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It was down to...
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You got 6 buttons on your shirt,
take it down to 5.
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Can we take it down to 4?
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Sennik says he felt the pressure
from retailers to cut costs,
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and so did the factory owners.
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They can't say no to, to a
hundred thousand units.
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That means a very long time that
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the factory is going to be sitting idle
if they don't get that order.
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So they needed you.
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They need you. They need you.
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And, you know, at the end of the day,
that's not my decision,
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but, like...
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I started wondering, Mark,
I really started wondering,
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how is it possible for clothing to be
made at these low prices?
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It's a good question.
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Because while price was the priority,
there was signs worker safety was not.
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In the decade before Rana Plaza,
hundreds of people died
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in factory fires and building
collapses in Bangladesh.
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Tragedy after tragedy, year after year,
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and no one in Canada
seemed to notice.
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That changed in the morning of April 24,
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when the eight-storey
Rana Plaza collapsed.
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More than 1100 people were killed.
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Hundreds are still missing,
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believed to be buried in the rubble.
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Tell me what happened when
you learned about Rana Plaza.
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It was like, if you start
having nightmares
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and then they become real,
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that was what Rana Plaza was for me.
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The search for survivors
seemed to drag on and on.
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Save us brother, I beg you brother.
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I want to live.
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Sujeet remembers being called into
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one particular meeting
after the collapse,
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where profits were put ahead of people.
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We were in a room full of people
when we were told we were connected.
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And no one said anything
about 1000 people.
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1000 people died, no one said a thing.
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They didn't, they didn't say
anything about them,
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they just talked about their --
the loss in terms of units,
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how are they going to
make up their margins.
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People were talking about that.
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And I sat there, I said nothing.
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Shame on me.
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Walmart was just one of
dozens of companies
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that had used Rana Plaza.
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At the time of the collapse the
biggest company in the building
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was making clothes for Joe Fresh.
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Their pink and red pants were
found in the rubble
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along with the bodies
of the workers who made them.
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One week after the collapse,
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Joseph Mimran and
Loblaw chairman Gale Weston
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faced the glare of the media.
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This has been a -- quite a tragic event...
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ummm, and it's something that
has touched all of our hearts --
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It's been a very difficult
week for everybody.
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I'm troubled that despite
a clear commitment
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to the highest standards
of ethical sourcing
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our company can still be a part
of such an unspeakable tragedy.
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But just how deep was that
commitment to ethical sourcing?
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What did Canadian companies know about
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how their clothes were
being made in Bangladesh.
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And what did they do to find out?
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Sujeet wanted to find the truth.
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So he made a life-changing decision
and quit his job.
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I thought, I don't want to be
a part of this anymore.
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I can't be a part of this.
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So, I stopped.
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When we come back,
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Sueet's journey.
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Are we sending people to factories
knowing that there's a huge danger?
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And a teenaged garment worker
who survived the collapse.
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Welcome to the wild west
of the global garment industry.
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Bangladesh has one of the
world's densest populations,
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political instability and
world class corruption.
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And since the 90's, the economy has
grown by double digits,
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fueled by fast fashion.
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Factories sit unfinished,
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Just waiting for new floors to be added
to accommodate new business.
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And every morning, scenes like this
play out through the capital Dhaka,
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as 4 million garment workers
quietly file into work.
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They carry with them
memories of Rana Plaza,
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wondering if a tragedy like this
could happen to them.
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The Rana collapse
put Sujeet Sennik on a mission.
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The former fashion designer
from Walmart Canada
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now wanted to learn the truth
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about how the clothes
he designed were made.
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I had to find out for myself.
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Is this what my industry has been doing?
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Are we doing this on purpose?
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Are we sending people to factories
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knowing that there's a huge danger?
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Sujeet traveled with us to Bangladesh.
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First stop, a residential
neighborhood in Dhaka,
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an unlikely backdrop for the deadliest
accident in the garment industry
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before Rana Plaza.
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This is Tazreen.
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It's massive.
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November 2012.
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Fire broke out in the
Tazreen fashion factory,
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a 9-storey building, though the
owner only had a permit for 3 storeys.
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There were no fire escapes.
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Many doors were blocked by boxes.
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Windows were barred shut.
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Months before the blaze,
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the factory's fire safety
certificate had been revoked.
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Most of the 112 victims here
were burned alive.
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When the Tazreen factory fire
happened, I was horrified.
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All these fingers were
pointing all everywhere,
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and no one was saying, hey listen, maybe,
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maybe, we might have just a little bit
to do with this.
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Walmart did indeed have something
to do with this factory.
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Their Faded Glory shorts were
pulled from the ashes.
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The company tried to distance
itself from the tragedy,
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insisting Tazreen was not an
authorized Walmart factory.
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There's bars on every single window.
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How were these people
supposed to get out of here?
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There's no escaping.
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I wonder for you, Sujeet,
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what is this building...,
what is this a symbol of to you?
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I think it's shame.
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We should be ashamed of ourselves
to let something like this happen.
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How was it possible that
people didn't know that
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this factory was built this way?
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This woman emerged from
the crowd of the curious
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to tell us her story
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how workers knocked out
a ventilation fan,
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and how she survived by jumping
3 stories to the ground.
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Will you ever work again?
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Will you ever have another job
after your injuries here?
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How am I supposed to work?
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I'm afraid to work and
no one wants to take me.
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I cannot sit or lie down for a long time.
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I get better when I take medicine,
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but when I don't it's painful.
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With few prospects,
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she appears as disposable as the
fast fashion she once made here.
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This could have been one of my prints.
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You know, snakeskin's in.
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There it is.
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It could have been a shirt, a dress.
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Is it that important
that you have to bar people
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into a building to meet our deadlines?
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It's not, not for me.
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It's disgusting.
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So how did Walmart's clothes
end up at such a dangerous factory?
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An investigation by Walmart
concluded one of its suppliers
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subcontracted part of the order
to Tazreen without their permission.
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But how hard would it be for
Canadian retailers to find out
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where their clothes are being made?
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We wanted to find out,
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so we bought a Walmart shirt in Canada
that Sujeet had designed.
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Shipping records led us to a factory
on the outskirts of Dhaka.
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The record named the factory:
Hasan Tanvir.
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Walmart publishes a list of
banned factories in Bangladesh,
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factories that have failed
the company's audits.
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And this factory has been
on that list since June.
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We made repeated requests
to visit the factory,
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but it wasn't until we showed up
with our camera
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that the manager would even talk to us.
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Hi, my name is Mark.
I'm from Canada.
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Canadian television, how are you?
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Fine.
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We want to see where
our clothes are being made
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and how they are being made.
And that's why we came over here.
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I want to go inside and visit.
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But even he wouldn't let us in.
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Instead, he passed us off
to another manager.
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Have you made this here?
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We have a shipping record here
that shows that it was made here.
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Hasan Tanvir Fashion Wears.
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This is your address.
This is where this came from.
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That's not mine.
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Hello?
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Excuse me.
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He says he's never seen this before,
doesn't recognize it,
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despite the fact that
we showed it was in fact made
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right there at
Hasan Tanvir Fashion Wears.
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Walmart puts it this way:
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they do make shirts here,
but not our shirt.
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In fact 3 months after
blacklisting this factory,
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Walmart admits they are still
making clothes here...
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one last order they say.
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Since we couldn't get in
to meet the workers,
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then we would take Sujeet to meet them
at home after work.
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In this entire area here,
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everyone who lives here
works in a garment factory.
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It's like a compound of
garment factory workers,
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so we're going to go in and
meet some of them tonight.
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Okay.
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We'll be there tonight.
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Wow.
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These are, 9 people
who work at the factory.
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They asked us to hide their faces,
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fearing they'd lose their jobs
simply for talking to us...
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I want to know who are you
making garments for now
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inside the factory.
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Canada, Canada, Canada.
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We hear that there are problems
working inside Hasan Tanvir
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and we had reports that there was a fire
at the factory recently.
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Can they tell us what happened?
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When the fire really started to spread,
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all the workers started to protest,
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they broke the gates and escaped.
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They didn't wanna let us out.
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They never wanna let us out.
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They just want to turn off the
lights and keep us in there
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and say "sit down, shut up and work."
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Do any of you worry that one day
you may die in your factory?
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Of course. Of course.
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And it happened all the time.
It happened regularly.
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Yeah, it happened all the time.
Every few days there's a fire.
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I want to know if...
if you recognize this shirt?
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If any of you recognize having made
this shirt over the past few months?
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Is this something that you
made in the factory?
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We showed them Sujeet's shirt
that we bought in Canada.
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Yeah, it's from the 5th floor.
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I made it when I used to
work on the 5th floor.
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So she worked on this garment?
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Yes.
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I designed this garment.
I drew this garment.
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Look, I did this...
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So you put these two pieces together.
So you put the sleeve in.
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Thank you.
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How do you feel meeting
the woman who made your design?
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I'm grateful to meet you.
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I wanted to meet you.
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It's nice to finally be able to see you
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and tell you that I think that
you should have a better life.
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Coming up...
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Why were Joe Fresh clothes being made in
the death trap that was Rana Plaza?
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We go inside a prison in Bangladesh
looking for answers.
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Every piece of clothing we wear
has a silent story stitched into it.
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The story of who made it and where.
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When Rana Plaza collapsed in April,
those stories came spilling out.
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So, did the clothes from the ill fated
factory ever make it to Canada?
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Well, we visited 6 stores in the
Toronto area, with a hidden camera,
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3 months after the Rana Plaza collapse.
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We found clothes made in Rana Plaza,
in sore after store.
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So I have a question...
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But you wouldn't know it
by asking the sales associates.
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There was really like, there was
really only one product
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that we were making in that
particular factory.
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It was like this line of
pants that we did
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We never ended up getting them.
Like obviously,
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like we just like, got rid of it
and everything.
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It's doubtful that it was
from that factory.
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That stuff that was made in that place
never even made it here.
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Loblaw's shipping records
revealed all these styles,
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hundreds of thousands of garments were
made in Rana Plaza before the collapse,
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and sold in Joe Fresh sores this summer.
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So how did clothes for Joe Fresh
end up beingmade
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in the death-trap that was Rana Plaza?
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Well, that's a question we had
for the factory owner.
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The problem is he's behind bars,
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charged with negligence
in the deaths of the workers.
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So "The Fifth Estate" petitioned
the Bangladeshi government
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for permission to speak with him.
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The government eventually agreed
but with one condition.
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Our camera would not be allowed
inside the prison.
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As public outrage grew after the collapse,
Bazlus Adnan surrendered to police.
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His three factories occupied
almost half of Rana Plaza.
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We arrived at Dhaka Central Jail,
where he's waiting trial.
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He began our interview saying
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how he parlayed an $8000 loan
from his dad in 1992,
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and turned it into a
$15 million a year business,
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thanks in large part
to his best customer, Joe Fresh.
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Joe Fresh was my biggest client,
about $6 million year.
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That is why I was going bigger.
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He says he was eager to
please his biggest client,
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so work had begun on Rana Plaza to add
a ninth floor for his booming business.
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I asked whether he was under pressure
to make clothes cheaper... and faster...
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Everybody is doing this.
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They all squeezed me.
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But Joe Fresh was a very good customer.
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Their policy was just ship it on time.
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Before my time was up for the interview,
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I asked him to name one Loblaw employee
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who had ever visited his factory at
Rana Plaza before the collapse.
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He couldn't.
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This ledger helps explain
how that could happen.
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From the entries here, we
learned Loblaw placed orders
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with a buying house in India
called House of Pearl,
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who, in turn, placed Joe Fresh orders
with the factory at Rana Plaza.
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House of Pearl, we learned,
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hired inspectors to check the quality
of the clothes made in Rana Plaza,
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but not to inspect building safety.
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Outsourcing ethical
responsibilities to third parties,
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enables companies like
Loblaw to distance themselves
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from the work being done on the ground,
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according to our
Canadian factory owner Barry Laxer.
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You know, after Rana Plaza happened
all these realities were saying,
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"well we didn't know."
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Is that true? Did they not know
what was going on in this country?
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A lot of companies just want
cheap manufacturing.
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So, they don't really look.
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Or ask the tough questions.
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Or ask the questions,
because if you don't ask the questions,
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you don't get the answers
that you don't want to hear.
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Was the Rana Plaza collapse a
wakeup call?
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I mean, do you really believe this
going to change anything here?
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I think in the end a lot of
companies are continuing
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just to look for margin and cost.
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And -- and...
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Ultimately that's why
they're here, right?
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That's why they're here.
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If that wasn't the issue,
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they could be buying products
made in the United States or Canada.
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We wanted to know more about the
working conditions inside Rana Plaza.
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Who better to tell us than the
people who worked there.
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After the collapse,
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cameras captured this footage
of survivors recovering in a hospital.
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We were intrigued by this girl, who was
trapped in the rubble for three days
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pinned under two dead bodies.
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She lost her mother, as well as her leg.
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Both mother and daughter were
making clothes for Joe Fresh.
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Months after the collapse,
we finally found her.
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Her name is Aruti.
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She tells us she is 17, though
her grandmother says she is really 15.
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A kid making kids clothes for Canadians.
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Do you recognize these shorts?
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Like these shorts.
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Yeah.
These pants were there.
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She sewed pocket seams,
150 pockets an hour.
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How do you feel
when you look at these pants?
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I feel sad.
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If I didn't work in that factory,
this would not have happened.
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I feel very bad seeing these pants.
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She says she's been working
in the industry for three years,
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meaning she started
when she was just 12.
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Like many women in Bangladesh,
she felt it was her only hope.
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When I was little, I thought I would grow
up, go to school, study, and have a job.
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If you study, you have a job,
a doctor, a teacher.
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You can have any job.
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But I couldn't do it, because
I'm poor, I have to work to eat.
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That's why I went into garment work.
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Aruti's shift was punishing,
12 hours a day, 7 days a week.
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And when a rush order was placed,
overtime was demanded.
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How did your bosses treat you
and the other workers?
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If the others didn't know how to do
the work, they used to yell and swear.
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If I can't work fast enough and meet
the target, they'll swear at me as well.
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I would feel really bad.
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She also remembers how cracks had been
spotted inside Rana Plaza
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the day before the tragedy.
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The building was evacuated.
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She didn't believe the building owner,
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who insisted everything was safe,
just hours before the collapse.
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This is not a crack, it's just that
the plaster came off
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a little bit. They made it
seem a big thing.
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The next day, April 24th,
her boss phoned her home
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and ordered her to get back to work,
or she'd be fired.
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On that day that they told you
to go back to work,
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were you afraid? Were you worried that
that building was dangerous?
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There were many of us
who didn't want to go.
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But they forced us. They said,
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"Don't worry, nothing will happen.
And if you die we'll die, too."
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But they didn't go inside.
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They made us to start work and then left.
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I was scared.
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But there was nothing I could do.
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If I stopped working, the line would stop,
and I would be in trouble.
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She and her fellow workers returned.
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An hour later, the building collapsed.
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Aruti was on the 6th floor.
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What do you remember about the moment
the building collapsed?
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When it collapsed, I thought,
I wouldn't survive.
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Two dead bodied fell on my leg
and my leg was stuck there.
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The roof fell on top of the bodies.
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I didn't know then that I would
actually come out alive.
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Her family received some compensation
from the government
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for the death of her mother
and the loss of her leg.
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When asked what she received from Loblaw,
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she told us she is still hoping.
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When we come back,
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we expose an even uglier side of the
fashion industry in Bangladesh.
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You've been hit. You've been hit.
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After the collapse of Rana Plaza,
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the Bangladeshi government scrambled
to assure nervous retailers and consumers
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that the country was a safe
place to do business.
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But even Loblaw,
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who had been making Joe Fresh
clothes in this country for 7 years,
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wondered how garment workers
could be exposed
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to what it called unacceptable risk.
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So we took a closer look...
and discovered within 3 hours,
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how easy it was to find the ugly
side of fast fashion.
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A factory dumping technicolored
waste water directly into a river.
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A river that now runs black.
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Then we saw a jute factory with
an open door that caught our eye.
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Inside, the air was tick with dust;
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dust from a toxic dye.
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Yet no one here wore a mask.
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Within minutes, we were kicked out
by the owner and his thugs.
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Finally, we went into one last factory
with a hidden camera.
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I'll show you a very good factory.
Everything in one place.
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And found these children operating looms.
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One manager admitted some factory owners
hire kids under the age of 10 for menial jobs,
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and paid them about a dollar a day.
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The garment industry has made some
people in this country fabulously rich,
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but poverty is still
everywhere you look.
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Some of the poorest are these squatters
who live next to the railway tracks,
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in the shadow of wealth.
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This gleaming tower is home to the BGMEA.
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That's the business group
that represents the titans
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of the garment industry in Bangladesh.
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We arrived to find a thousand
angry workers protesting outside.
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They say they haven't been paid
by their employer in a month.
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They work for a factory that,
until last fall,
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made clothes for Canadians.
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So what happened?
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Shoom, shoom, shoom.
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You've been hit. You've been hit.
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He'd been hit.
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He'd been hit. He'd been hit.
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Who did this to you?
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Bamboo.
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Yes, yes, bamboo.
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Who did this?
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The owners hired gangsters?
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Yes, yes, gangster.
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And what were you doing?
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You were just protesting?
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Yes.
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You were protesting because you
wanted your back-wages.
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Yes.
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And you make clothes for Canada?
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Yes.
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We had some questions for the
powerful head of the garment industry,
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the top man Canadian retailers deal with.
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Atiqul Islam is a prominent
factory owner in his own right.
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He's made clothes for Walmart
Canada, Loblaw and HBC.
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I asked him about the protest
outside his window.
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This is completely open industry.
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If you don't like there you can
go the other work there.
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We have a 25% worker shortage in
the industry, still today.
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In other words, if workers are abused,
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his advice? Quit and work somewhere else.
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When I ask him about the
bad factories we saw,
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the child labor, the pollution,
the dangerous working conditions,
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he wasn't alarmed.
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A lot of factories that are
state of the art.
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We've seen the nice ones.
We've seen the state of the art.
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We've seen the example of where
the industry is moving.
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But you're at a point right now
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where there are some
shining examples but...
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So for that,
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sometimes the shiny is covered
by the cloud of this kind of thing.
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So we need to clean the cloud.
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But what about illegal subcontracting,
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when one factory gives order
to another without approval?
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If the factories are overbooked, they
must say no, I'm overbooked.
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And as well as from the outside,
the retailers side also.
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But you're a businessman.
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Are they really going to say I'm
overbooked and I can't take the business?
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Yah, yah, yah.
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Everybody wants the business.
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No, no, no.
It's not like that.
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Things are completely changed.
It is not like that.
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We had spoken with some sources
who work for Walmart Canada.
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They placed an order with your group,
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and they said that that order
was then ended up being
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made at factory that was not approved.
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Hasan Tanvir.
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Hasan?
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Hasan Tanvir.
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Remember that Walmart shirt --
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Well, we had questions about
who exactly made it.
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We showed it to workers and
they said "yah", they made it.
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It is very difficult for me to know
whether I'm making this, number one.
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And number two, there's no way that
we're giving the goods to the outside.
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It's absolutely no way.
Our all garments is made in our factory.
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But Walmart told us Mr. Islam did indeed
have the contract to make Sujeet's shirt.
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But at his own factory,
not not Hasan Tanvir.
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Thank you. Thank you, I'll take that.
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You don't need that.
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Can I just see this one thing.
Just have a seat and I, uh....
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Absolutely.
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And then something extraordinary
happened after our interview wrapped up...
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Look in the background,
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as Mr. Islam conceals the garment
behind his desk with a pen in hand.
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After we left we noticed the tag
on the shirt had been defaced.
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The barcode and the Canadian
import number that could connect
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their shirt to Atiqul Islam's
company were blacked out.
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We asked him the next day if he
did it. He denied it.
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As for Loblaw and Joe Fresh --
the Canadian company insists
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it will help lead lead the way
to clean up the industry in Bangladesh.
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Our industry can be a force for good.
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Properly inspected, well built
factories play (an) important role
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in the development of
countries such as Bangladesh.
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Did Loblaw properly inspect before
Rana Plaza before the collapse?
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They say they did visit the factory.
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So why were they still
making clothes there?
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That's what we wanted to ask Joe Mimran,
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but we were told he wasn't
available for an interview.
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I am troubled by the deafening silence
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from other apparel retailers
on this issue.
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And while Loblaw CEO Galen Weston
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publicly criticizes other companies
for their deafening silence,
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he declined to be interviewed
for this story.
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Loblaw did send us an email
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outlining their efforts to
help workers in Bangladesh.
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They say since the collapse
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they've contributed a million
dollars to two charities,
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and joined a compliance accord
with other retailers
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aimed at improving working
conditions in Bangladesh,
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and the company will now
put "boots on the ground"
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somewhere "in the region"
to inspect factories.
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But there's another way.
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Canadian factory owner Barry
Laxer wanted a safe factory,
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so he built one.
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It's run by a Canadian team.
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And he visits it regularly.
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But what are the effects then
of paying the cheapest possible price
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in a country like Bangladesh?
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Sooner or later there'll be
another Rana Plaza.
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It's just a matter of time.
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Sooner or later there'll be
another fire somewhere
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that will claim more lives.
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Because Bangladesh is just the
floor and the testing ground
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for how cheap products can be sold.
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Before former Walmart designer
Sujeet Sennik left Bangladesh,
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we had one more stop to make.
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There's one last thing I wanted
to show you before you go.
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This is where Rana Plaza once stood.
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Oh my god.
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There's nothing left.
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There are people walking around.
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And in Canada wearing clothes that
were made by these people who died here.
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This is kind of a monument to greed.
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This is a product of
the race to the bottom.
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So what are consumers to do?
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Boycott clothes made in Bangladesh?
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The jobs are pulling millions of
women out of poverty.
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Like Aruti who, despite her loss, knows
has to go back to work.
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Especially now that her mother is gone
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and she'll have to support her
younger sisters and her grandmother.
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Do you want to go back and work
inside a garment factory now?
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If I wanted to work in the factory,
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it's not possible to walk back and forth
and go up and down the stairs.
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I can't do it yet.
That's the issue now.
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I will be able to go back,
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but I'm afraid.
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Well, after watching tonight's episode,
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you may be wondering more
about the clothe you buy
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and how they were made.
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Well for some of the brands
and lines of clothing
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that we mentioned on tonight's program,
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you can find out more information
by going to our website.
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That's at cbc.ca/fifth.
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Of course we'll continue
to update that website
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with the developments on this story
in the weeks and months ahead.
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Stay with us.
We'll be right back after this.