[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:06.66,0:00:11.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This mountain of rubble is a monument\Nto the 1100 lives lost here last April, Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.49,0:00:16.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when this garment factory \Ncollapsed in Bangladesh, Dialogue: 0,0:00:18.30,0:00:22.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unleashing the stories that \Nhas long been locked inside. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.26,0:00:27.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A thousand people died and\Nno one said a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:00:27.00,0:00:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you recognize these shorts? Dialogue: 0,0:00:29.14,0:00:32.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We meet the people who make your clothes, Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.40,0:00:36.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and find out where those cloths were made. Dialogue: 0,0:00:36.11,0:00:39.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This your address.\NThis is where this came from. Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.11,0:00:43.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The truth that retailers don't \Nwant you to know. Dialogue: 0,0:00:43.32,0:00:46.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've been hit. You've been hit. Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.61,0:00:52.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do any of you worry that one day\Nyou may die in your factory? Dialogue: 0,0:00:52.53,0:00:55.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course. Of course. Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.31,0:00:57.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dangerous factories. Dialogue: 0,0:00:57.38,0:00:59.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And dark secrets. Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.51,0:01:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, I'm Mark Kelly and welcome\Nto "The Fifth Estate." Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.66,0:01:09.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm standing by the rubble\Nof what was once Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:01:09.30,0:01:11.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the 8-story factory \Ncollapsed in April, Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.88,0:01:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a frantic search for survivors began. Dialogue: 0,0:01:14.43,0:01:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So too did the search for answers. Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.82,0:01:20.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How, the world wondered, could a\Ndisaster like this happen? Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.36,0:01:23.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll join that search when\Nwe learned many of the victims Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.87,0:01:27.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,died here making cloths for\NCanadian consumers. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.24,0:01:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Along the way, we uncovered this ledger\Npulled from the rubble Dialogue: 0,0:01:31.22,0:01:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and using the information inside here Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.46,0:01:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we spent months piecing together clues Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.22,0:01:40.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that would reveal how and where \Nyour cloths are being made. Dialogue: 0,0:01:40.15,0:01:42.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what we would also discover is that Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.55,0:01:45.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the disaster that happened here \Nwas no accident. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.18,0:01:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fashion is built on an image \Nof beauty, glamour and style. Dialogue: 0,0:01:54.70,0:01:58.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Creations that not only make you\Nlook good, but feel good. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.81,0:02:02.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Cloths without a conscience. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.69,0:02:06.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality of the fashion\Nindustry is far less glamorous. Dialogue: 0,0:02:06.74,0:02:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A reality Canadian retailers\Ndon't want you to know about. Dialogue: 0,0:02:11.46,0:02:16.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's known as the race to the bottom,\Nwhere the cheapest prices win. Dialogue: 0,0:02:16.55,0:02:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A race that created fast fashion. Dialogue: 0,0:02:20.48,0:02:23.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that's why today, many of your cloths Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.17,0:02:26.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bear the label made in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.94,0:02:32.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was that glamour \Nof the fashion industry Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.41,0:02:34.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that spoke to Sujeet Sennik. Dialogue: 0,0:02:34.46,0:02:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even as a teenager Growing up in\Nthe suburb in Toronto. Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.05,0:02:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm from a South Asian family. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.72,0:02:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My father is a doctor. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.34,0:02:46.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And they wanted me to sort of\Nfollow that path. Dialogue: 0,0:02:46.42,0:02:50.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was super creative, \Nso it was a way for me to say, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.52,0:02:52.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hey listen, there's a job for me. Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.48,0:02:55.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an actual commercial career. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.17,0:02:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He went to a couture school and\Nturned a dream into a dream job: Dialogue: 0,0:02:59.63,0:03:04.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,designing for Christian Dior and\NBalenciaga in Paris. Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.76,0:03:09.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like a fish finding a pond. Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.41,0:03:14.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gave me a way out, \Na way to, you know, lead my own life. Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.34,0:03:18.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It gave me my freedom, \Nand it gave me everything. Dialogue: 0,0:03:18.38,0:03:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the growing popularity and \Nincreasing demand for fast fashion Dialogue: 0,0:03:22.13,0:03:26.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,led him back to Toronto to design \N$20 blouses for Walmart. Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.96,0:03:31.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead of Paris, his fashion\Nfocus was Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:03:31.56,0:03:34.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was a natural flow \Ntowards Bangladesh Dialogue: 0,0:03:34.22,0:03:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because of fast fashion \Nin the last ten years. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.02,0:03:41.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And trying to get clothes\Ncheaper and cheaper. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.38,0:03:45.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I think when the recession\Nhit people ran for the price, Dialogue: 0,0:03:45.17,0:03:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you know, it was Mecca. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.62,0:03:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was Mecca. Dialogue: 0,0:03:50.32,0:03:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But the road to Mecca decimated \NCanada's garment industry. Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.32,0:04:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From 2001 to 2010, 75,000 jobs\Nwere lost here. Dialogue: 0,0:04:00.46,0:04:03.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many deep-rooted manufacturers\Nhad a stark choice... Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.79,0:04:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Move or close. Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.38,0:04:09.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My great-grandfather was a rag dealer. Dialogue: 0,0:04:09.62,0:04:14.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He used to go from Sherbrooke to\NMontreal in a horse and buggy, Dialogue: 0,0:04:14.91,0:04:18.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,buying rags from the farmers. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.23,0:04:22.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Barry Laxer's family has been \Nin the garments business Dialogue: 0,0:04:22.16,0:04:24.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in Montreal and Toronto \Nfor 3 generations Dialogue: 0,0:04:24.71,0:04:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but he was forced to \Npack it all up for price. Dialogue: 0,0:04:28.93,0:04:31.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,My single largest customer\Nthat at the time in Canada Dialogue: 0,0:04:31.55,0:04:34.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,accounted for over 50% of our volume Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.67,0:04:37.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,told us that to continue doing business Dialogue: 0,0:04:37.47,0:04:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we need to find a lower cost \Nmanufacturing base somewhere else. Dialogue: 0,0:04:41.86,0:04:43.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.37,0:04:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It turned out to be Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.46,0:04:51.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Companies around the world were \Nnow beating a path to Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.49,0:04:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From H&M to Walmart, Nike and the GAP. Dialogue: 0,0:04:56.63,0:04:59.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Barry Laxer joined that garment Gold Rush. Dialogue: 0,0:04:59.71,0:05:02.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, his company Radical Designs Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.42,0:05:06.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,runs two factories outside Dhaka,\Nthe capital of Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.100,0:05:12.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At least half the machines in\Nthis factory all came from Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.02,0:05:14.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had like 80 containers of\Nmachinery that came here. Dialogue: 0,0:05:14.92,0:05:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You just rushed it over\Nhere to do business. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.04,0:05:20.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We just, it wasn't doing\Nanything in Toronto. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.29,0:05:23.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now he employed more than 1000 people Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.16,0:05:27.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he pays them 3 times the minimum wage. Dialogue: 0,0:05:27.17,0:05:28.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When you own a factory, Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.77,0:05:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nothing is better than walking\Nthrough and seeing it full. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.68,0:05:33.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And busy. Dialogue: 0,0:05:33.77,0:05:35.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And busy, yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.36,0:05:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've built quite an empire here, Barry. Dialogue: 0,0:05:38.31,0:05:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What's the allure for companies\Nto come to Bangladesh? Dialogue: 0,0:05:41.42,0:05:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here, the real allure is labour. Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.13,0:05:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The workers will work for wages\Nthat most countries won't, Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.92,0:05:51.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because there's no alternative. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.80,0:05:56.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Working for next to nothing is\Nbetter than working for nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.93,0:06:02.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In real terms, next to nothing \Nis $38 a month... Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.14,0:06:04.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or 24 cents an hour. Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.20,0:06:08.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The lowest garment worker \Nwage on the planet. Dialogue: 0,0:06:10.90,0:06:13.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The floodgates for \NCanadian business opened Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.77,0:06:18.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Ottawa dropped import duties \Nfrom Bangladesh in 2003. Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.45,0:06:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canadian companies like Lululemon, \NHBC and Walmart Canada Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.81,0:06:26.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,climbed aboard the Bangladeshi band wagon. Dialogue: 0,0:06:26.17,0:06:30.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The result, imports grew by 618%. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.32,0:06:34.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some say the front-runner \Nin the race to the bottom Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.81,0:06:37.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was Loblaw brand Joe Fresh. Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.50,0:06:42.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These TV ads shows the appeal of\Nits cheap and cheerful clothing line. Dialogue: 0,0:06:42.35,0:06:45.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The line has bounced its way to\None of the top spots Dialogue: 0,0:06:45.70,0:06:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the children's wear market in Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.42,0:06:53.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Speaking to the CBC in 2010\Nthe company president said Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.65,0:06:56.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he's just giving consumers \Nwhat they want. Dialogue: 0,0:06:56.82,0:06:58.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They wanted fashion, Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.38,0:07:00.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they wanted fashion \Nthat would play across the country Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.77,0:07:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they needed it \Nat amazing price points. Dialogue: 0,0:07:05.09,0:07:08.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joseph Mimran was now \Na fast fashion icon. Dialogue: 0,0:07:08.61,0:07:11.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just how low could prices go? Dialogue: 0,0:07:12.76,0:07:15.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well look at this TV Ad for Walmart. Dialogue: 0,0:07:15.48,0:07:17.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Clearly, the lower the better. Dialogue: 0,0:07:17.88,0:07:20.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now more styles, and more stylish Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.61,0:07:22.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all at unbelievable prices Dialogue: 0,0:07:22.61,0:07:25.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Exclusively at Walmart. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.19,0:07:27.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For designers like Sujeet Sennik, Dialogue: 0,0:07:27.66,0:07:30.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,beauty took a backseat to price. Dialogue: 0,0:07:30.86,0:07:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the pressure put on you\Nto make cheaper and cheaper clothes? Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.74,0:07:37.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Price is the starting point.\NIt's everything. Dialogue: 0,0:07:37.19,0:07:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was down to... Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.79,0:07:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You got 6 buttons on your shirt,\Ntake it down to 5. Dialogue: 0,0:07:41.80,0:07:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can we take it down to 4? Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.06,0:07:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sennik says he felt the pressure \Nfrom retailers to cut costs, Dialogue: 0,0:07:47.94,0:07:50.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so did the factory owners. Dialogue: 0,0:07:50.21,0:07:54.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can't say no to, to a\Nhundred thousand units. Dialogue: 0,0:07:54.40,0:07:56.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That means a very long time that Dialogue: 0,0:07:56.14,0:08:00.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the factory is going to be sitting idle\Nif they don't get that order. Dialogue: 0,0:08:00.11,0:08:01.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So they needed you. Dialogue: 0,0:08:01.42,0:08:03.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They need you. They need you. Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.50,0:08:07.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And, you know, at the end of the day,\Nthat's not my decision, Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.71,0:08:10.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but, like... Dialogue: 0,0:08:10.80,0:08:13.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I started wondering, Mark,\NI really started wondering, Dialogue: 0,0:08:13.76,0:08:19.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how is it possible for clothing to be\Nmade at these low prices? Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.40,0:08:20.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a good question. Dialogue: 0,0:08:20.95,0:08:26.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because while price was the priority,\Nthere was signs worker safety was not. Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.89,0:08:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the decade before Rana Plaza,\Nhundreds of people died Dialogue: 0,0:08:30.74,0:08:35.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in factory fires and building \Ncollapses in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:08:36.75,0:08:39.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tragedy after tragedy, year after year, Dialogue: 0,0:08:39.53,0:08:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one in Canada\Nseemed to notice. Dialogue: 0,0:08:42.51,0:08:45.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That changed in the morning of April 24, Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.95,0:08:54.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when the eight-storey \NRana Plaza collapsed. Dialogue: 0,0:08:58.20,0:09:01.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,More than 1100 people were killed. Dialogue: 0,0:09:03.51,0:09:06.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hundreds are still missing,\N Dialogue: 0,0:09:07.60,0:09:10.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,believed to be buried in the rubble. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.76,0:09:15.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell me what happened when\Nyou learned about Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:09:15.28,0:09:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like, if you start \Nhaving nightmares Dialogue: 0,0:09:20.32,0:09:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then they become real, Dialogue: 0,0:09:23.54,0:09:27.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was what Rana Plaza was for me. Dialogue: 0,0:09:27.93,0:09:31.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The search for survivors \Nseemed to drag on and on. Dialogue: 0,0:09:33.44,0:09:36.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Save us brother, I beg you brother. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.24,0:09:38.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to live. Dialogue: 0,0:09:38.52,0:09:40.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sujeet remembers being called into \N Dialogue: 0,0:09:40.65,0:09:42.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one particular meeting \Nafter the collapse, Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.90,0:09:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where profits were put ahead of people. Dialogue: 0,0:09:46.63,0:09:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were in a room full of people\Nwhen we were told we were connected. Dialogue: 0,0:09:51.17,0:09:55.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And no one said anything \Nabout 1000 people. Dialogue: 0,0:09:55.49,0:09:59.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1000 people died, no one said a thing. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.84,0:10:02.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't, they didn't say\Nanything about them, Dialogue: 0,0:10:02.44,0:10:06.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they just talked about their -- \Nthe loss in terms of units, Dialogue: 0,0:10:06.30,0:10:08.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how are they going to \Nmake up their margins. Dialogue: 0,0:10:08.55,0:10:10.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People were talking about that. Dialogue: 0,0:10:10.27,0:10:13.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I sat there, I said nothing. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.85,0:10:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Shame on me. Dialogue: 0,0:10:20.12,0:10:22.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walmart was just one of \Ndozens of companies Dialogue: 0,0:10:22.77,0:10:24.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that had used Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.68,0:10:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the time of the collapse the\Nbiggest company in the building Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.92,0:10:30.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was making clothes for Joe Fresh. Dialogue: 0,0:10:30.69,0:10:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their pink and red pants were\Nfound in the rubble Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.91,0:10:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with the bodies \Nof the workers who made them. Dialogue: 0,0:10:42.66,0:10:44.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One week after the collapse, Dialogue: 0,0:10:44.34,0:10:47.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joseph Mimran and \NLoblaw chairman Gale Weston Dialogue: 0,0:10:47.56,0:10:49.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,faced the glare of the media. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.40,0:10:53.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This has been a -- quite a tragic event... Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.16,0:10:57.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ummm, and it's something that \Nhas touched all of our hearts -- Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.36,0:11:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's been a very difficult \Nweek for everybody. Dialogue: 0,0:11:00.32,0:11:03.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm troubled that despite \Na clear commitment Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.59,0:11:06.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the highest standards \Nof ethical sourcing Dialogue: 0,0:11:06.59,0:11:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our company can still be a part\Nof such an unspeakable tragedy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:11.80,0:11:15.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But just how deep was that \Ncommitment to ethical sourcing? Dialogue: 0,0:11:15.43,0:11:17.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What did Canadian companies know about Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.75,0:11:20.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how their clothes were \Nbeing made in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:11:20.87,0:11:23.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what did they do to find out? Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.35,0:11:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sujeet wanted to find the truth. Dialogue: 0,0:11:29.50,0:11:33.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So he made a life-changing decision\Nand quit his job. Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.64,0:11:37.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I thought, I don't want to be\Na part of this anymore. Dialogue: 0,0:11:37.35,0:11:39.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't be a part of this. Dialogue: 0,0:11:39.47,0:11:41.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, I stopped. Dialogue: 0,0:11:43.76,0:11:45.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we come back, Dialogue: 0,0:11:45.07,0:11:46.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sueet's journey. Dialogue: 0,0:11:46.58,0:11:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we sending people to factories\Nknowing that there's a huge danger? Dialogue: 0,0:11:53.14,0:11:57.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a teenaged garment worker \Nwho survived the collapse. Dialogue: 0,0:12:12.73,0:12:17.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome to the wild west \Nof the global garment industry. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.41,0:12:21.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bangladesh has one of the\Nworld's densest populations, Dialogue: 0,0:12:21.89,0:12:26.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,political instability and \Nworld class corruption. Dialogue: 0,0:12:26.03,0:12:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And since the 90's, the economy has\Ngrown by double digits, Dialogue: 0,0:12:29.49,0:12:32.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fueled by fast fashion. Dialogue: 0,0:12:32.72,0:12:34.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Factories sit unfinished, Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.36,0:12:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just waiting for new floors to be added\Nto accommodate new business. Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.96,0:12:44.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And every morning, scenes like this\Nplay out through the capital Dhaka, Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.83,0:12:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as 4 million garment workers\Nquietly file into work. Dialogue: 0,0:12:53.61,0:12:58.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They carry with them \Nmemories of Rana Plaza, Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.62,0:13:03.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondering if a tragedy like this \Ncould happen to them. Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.86,0:13:17.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Rana collapse \Nput Sujeet Sennik on a mission. Dialogue: 0,0:13:17.16,0:13:20.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The former fashion designer \Nfrom Walmart Canada Dialogue: 0,0:13:20.00,0:13:22.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,now wanted to learn the truth Dialogue: 0,0:13:22.29,0:13:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about how the clothes \Nhe designed were made. Dialogue: 0,0:13:25.90,0:13:28.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had to find out for myself. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.21,0:13:31.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this what my industry has been doing? Dialogue: 0,0:13:31.44,0:13:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we doing this on purpose? Dialogue: 0,0:13:33.70,0:13:37.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are we sending people to factories Dialogue: 0,0:13:37.84,0:13:41.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,knowing that there's a huge danger? Dialogue: 0,0:13:41.50,0:13:44.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sujeet traveled with us to Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:13:44.62,0:13:47.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First stop, a residential \Nneighborhood in Dhaka, Dialogue: 0,0:13:47.98,0:13:52.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an unlikely backdrop for the deadliest\Naccident in the garment industry Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.42,0:13:55.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.46,0:13:57.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is Tazreen. Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.46,0:14:03.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's massive. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.72,0:14:07.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,November 2012. Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.10,0:14:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fire broke out in the \NTazreen fashion factory, Dialogue: 0,0:14:11.09,0:14:17.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a 9-storey building, though the\Nowner only had a permit for 3 storeys. Dialogue: 0,0:14:17.00,0:14:18.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were no fire escapes. Dialogue: 0,0:14:18.91,0:14:21.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many doors were blocked by boxes. Dialogue: 0,0:14:21.66,0:14:24.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Windows were barred shut. Dialogue: 0,0:14:24.37,0:14:25.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Months before the blaze, Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.79,0:14:30.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the factory's fire safety\Ncertificate had been revoked. Dialogue: 0,0:14:30.37,0:14:35.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most of the 112 victims here\Nwere burned alive. Dialogue: 0,0:14:37.07,0:14:41.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the Tazreen factory fire\Nhappened, I was horrified. Dialogue: 0,0:14:41.80,0:14:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All these fingers were \Npointing all everywhere, Dialogue: 0,0:14:44.46,0:14:46.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and no one was saying, hey listen, maybe, Dialogue: 0,0:14:46.99,0:14:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe, we might have just a little bit\Nto do with this. Dialogue: 0,0:14:52.41,0:14:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walmart did indeed have something \Nto do with this factory. Dialogue: 0,0:14:56.21,0:15:00.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their Faded Glory shorts were\Npulled from the ashes. Dialogue: 0,0:15:00.70,0:15:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The company tried to distance\Nitself from the tragedy, Dialogue: 0,0:15:03.62,0:15:08.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,insisting Tazreen was not an\Nauthorized Walmart factory. Dialogue: 0,0:15:09.24,0:15:12.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's bars on every single window. Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.59,0:15:15.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How were these people \Nsupposed to get out of here? Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.96,0:15:18.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's no escaping. Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.20,0:15:29.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wonder for you, Sujeet, Dialogue: 0,0:15:29.04,0:15:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what is this building...,\Nwhat is this a symbol of to you? Dialogue: 0,0:15:34.10,0:15:36.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's shame. Dialogue: 0,0:15:36.09,0:15:42.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We should be ashamed of ourselves\Nto let something like this happen. Dialogue: 0,0:15:42.36,0:15:45.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How was it possible that \Npeople didn't know that Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.04,0:15:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this factory was built this way? Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.44,0:15:52.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This woman emerged from \Nthe crowd of the curious Dialogue: 0,0:15:52.78,0:15:54.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tell us her story Dialogue: 0,0:15:54.25,0:15:56.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how workers knocked out \Na ventilation fan, Dialogue: 0,0:15:56.69,0:16:01.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how she survived by jumping \N3 stories to the ground. Dialogue: 0,0:16:01.01,0:16:02.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will you ever work again? Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.59,0:16:04.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will you ever have another job\Nafter your injuries here? Dialogue: 0,0:16:05.81,0:16:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How am I supposed to work? Dialogue: 0,0:16:07.58,0:16:10.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm afraid to work and \Nno one wants to take me. Dialogue: 0,0:16:10.79,0:16:13.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I cannot sit or lie down for a long time. Dialogue: 0,0:16:13.47,0:16:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I get better when I take medicine, Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.46,0:16:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but when I don't it's painful. Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.43,0:16:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With few prospects, Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.92,0:16:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she appears as disposable as the\Nfast fashion she once made here. Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.96,0:16:30.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This could have been one of my prints. Dialogue: 0,0:16:30.32,0:16:32.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, snakeskin's in. Dialogue: 0,0:16:32.88,0:16:35.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There it is. Dialogue: 0,0:16:35.91,0:16:40.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It could have been a shirt, a dress. Dialogue: 0,0:16:40.79,0:16:44.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is it that important \Nthat you have to bar people Dialogue: 0,0:16:44.25,0:16:47.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a building to meet our deadlines? Dialogue: 0,0:16:47.12,0:16:49.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not, not for me. Dialogue: 0,0:16:49.84,0:16:52.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's disgusting. Dialogue: 0,0:16:54.17,0:16:58.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how did Walmart's clothes \Nend up at such a dangerous factory? Dialogue: 0,0:16:58.19,0:17:01.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An investigation by Walmart\Nconcluded one of its suppliers Dialogue: 0,0:17:01.68,0:17:07.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,subcontracted part of the order\Nto Tazreen without their permission. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.07,0:17:14.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But how hard would it be for\NCanadian retailers to find out Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.18,0:17:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where their clothes are being made? Dialogue: 0,0:17:16.96,0:17:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wanted to find out, Dialogue: 0,0:17:18.40,0:17:22.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we bought a Walmart shirt in Canada \Nthat Sujeet had designed. Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.60,0:17:27.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Shipping records led us to a factory \Non the outskirts of Dhaka. Dialogue: 0,0:17:28.40,0:17:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The record named the factory:\NHasan Tanvir. Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.39,0:17:36.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walmart publishes a list of\Nbanned factories in Bangladesh, Dialogue: 0,0:17:36.29,0:17:39.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,factories that have failed \Nthe company's audits. Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.42,0:17:43.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And this factory has been \Non that list since June. Dialogue: 0,0:17:44.02,0:17:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We made repeated requests \Nto visit the factory, Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.07,0:17:50.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but it wasn't until we showed up \Nwith our camera Dialogue: 0,0:17:50.01,0:17:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the manager would even talk to us. Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.24,0:17:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hi, my name is Mark.\NI'm from Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:17:54.73,0:17:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canadian television, how are you? Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.79,0:17:58.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fine. Dialogue: 0,0:17:58.01,0:18:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We want to see where\Nour clothes are being made Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.18,0:18:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they are being made.\NAnd that's why we came over here. Dialogue: 0,0:18:03.26,0:18:05.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to go inside and visit. Dialogue: 0,0:18:05.34,0:18:07.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even he wouldn't let us in. Dialogue: 0,0:18:07.13,0:18:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Instead, he passed us off \Nto another manager. Dialogue: 0,0:18:10.06,0:18:12.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Have you made this here? Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.09,0:18:25.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a shipping record here\Nthat shows that it was made here. Dialogue: 0,0:18:25.08,0:18:27.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hasan Tanvir Fashion Wears. Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.82,0:18:30.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is your address.\NThis is where this came from. Dialogue: 0,0:18:30.82,0:18:33.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not mine. Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.35,0:18:34.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello? Dialogue: 0,0:18:39.52,0:18:40.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Excuse me. Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.90,0:18:49.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says he's never seen this before,\Ndoesn't recognize it, Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.37,0:18:53.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,despite the fact that \Nwe showed it was in fact made Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.47,0:18:57.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,right there at\NHasan Tanvir Fashion Wears. Dialogue: 0,0:18:58.57,0:19:00.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walmart puts it this way: Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.17,0:19:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they do make shirts here, \Nbut not our shirt. Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.23,0:19:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact 3 months after \Nblacklisting this factory, Dialogue: 0,0:19:06.50,0:19:09.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Walmart admits they are still \Nmaking clothes here... Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.99,0:19:12.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one last order they say. Dialogue: 0,0:19:19.44,0:19:21.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Since we couldn't get in \Nto meet the workers, Dialogue: 0,0:19:21.92,0:19:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then we would take Sujeet to meet them\Nat home after work. Dialogue: 0,0:19:28.79,0:19:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this entire area here, Dialogue: 0,0:19:31.31,0:19:35.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone who lives here \Nworks in a garment factory. Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.44,0:19:37.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like a compound of \Ngarment factory workers, Dialogue: 0,0:19:37.93,0:19:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we're going to go in and \Nmeet some of them tonight. Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.41,0:19:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay. Dialogue: 0,0:19:43.98,0:19:45.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'll be there tonight. Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.45,0:19:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow. Dialogue: 0,0:19:47.96,0:19:53.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are, 9 people \Nwho work at the factory. Dialogue: 0,0:19:53.91,0:19:55.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They asked us to hide their faces, Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.94,0:20:00.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,fearing they'd lose their jobs \Nsimply for talking to us... Dialogue: 0,0:20:00.03,0:20:03.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to know who are you \Nmaking garments for now Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.18,0:20:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inside the factory. Dialogue: 0,0:20:05.20,0:20:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canada, Canada, Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.17,0:20:11.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We hear that there are problems\Nworking inside Hasan Tanvir Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.57,0:20:15.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we had reports that there was a fire\Nat the factory recently. Dialogue: 0,0:20:15.71,0:20:17.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can they tell us what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:20:18.90,0:20:22.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When the fire really started to spread, Dialogue: 0,0:20:22.07,0:20:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all the workers started to protest, Dialogue: 0,0:20:24.38,0:20:26.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they broke the gates and escaped. Dialogue: 0,0:20:26.38,0:20:28.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They didn't wanna let us out. Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.05,0:20:29.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They never wanna let us out. Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.56,0:20:32.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They just want to turn off the\Nlights and keep us in there Dialogue: 0,0:20:32.62,0:20:35.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and say "sit down, shut up and work." Dialogue: 0,0:20:35.40,0:20:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do any of you worry that one day\Nyou may die in your factory? Dialogue: 0,0:20:43.84,0:20:45.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course. Of course. Dialogue: 0,0:20:45.80,0:20:48.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it happened all the time.\NIt happened regularly. Dialogue: 0,0:20:48.53,0:20:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it happened all the time.\NEvery few days there's a fire. Dialogue: 0,0:20:53.40,0:20:56.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want to know if...\Nif you recognize this shirt? Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.29,0:21:03.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If any of you recognize having made\Nthis shirt over the past few months? Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.21,0:21:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this something that you \Nmade in the factory? Dialogue: 0,0:21:05.90,0:21:09.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We showed them Sujeet's shirt\Nthat we bought in Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:21:11.84,0:21:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it's from the 5th floor. Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.66,0:21:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I made it when I used to \Nwork on the 5th floor. Dialogue: 0,0:21:20.89,0:21:24.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So she worked on this garment? Dialogue: 0,0:21:24.28,0:21:26.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.28,0:21:33.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I designed this garment.\NI drew this garment. Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.17,0:21:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, I did this... Dialogue: 0,0:21:37.58,0:21:43.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you put these two pieces together.\NSo you put the sleeve in. Dialogue: 0,0:21:43.79,0:21:46.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.57,0:21:52.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you feel meeting\Nthe woman who made your design? Dialogue: 0,0:21:52.73,0:21:56.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm grateful to meet you. Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.03,0:21:58.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wanted to meet you. Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.14,0:22:08.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's nice to finally be able to see you Dialogue: 0,0:22:08.46,0:22:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tell you that I think that \Nyou should have a better life. Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.49,0:22:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Coming up... Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.05,0:22:28.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why were Joe Fresh clothes being made in \Nthe death trap that was Rana Plaza? Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.10,0:22:33.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We go inside a prison in Bangladesh\Nlooking for answers. Dialogue: 0,0:22:53.20,0:23:00.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every piece of clothing we wear \Nhas a silent story stitched into it. Dialogue: 0,0:23:00.37,0:23:05.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The story of who made it and where. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.79,0:23:11.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When Rana Plaza collapsed in April,\Nthose stories came spilling out. Dialogue: 0,0:23:11.44,0:23:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, did the clothes from the ill fated \Nfactory ever make it to Canada? Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.34,0:23:22.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, we visited 6 stores in the\NToronto area, with a hidden camera, Dialogue: 0,0:23:22.05,0:23:26.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,3 months after the Rana Plaza collapse. Dialogue: 0,0:23:26.13,0:23:30.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We found clothes made in Rana Plaza, \Nin sore after store. Dialogue: 0,0:23:30.98,0:23:32.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I have a question... Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.54,0:23:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you wouldn't know it \Nby asking the sales associates. Dialogue: 0,0:23:35.45,0:23:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was really like, there was \Nreally only one product Dialogue: 0,0:23:38.31,0:23:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we were making in that\Nparticular factory. Dialogue: 0,0:23:40.93,0:23:43.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was like this line of\Npants that we did Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.26,0:23:45.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We never ended up getting them.\NLike obviously, Dialogue: 0,0:23:45.24,0:23:48.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like we just like, got rid of it\Nand everything. Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.49,0:23:51.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's doubtful that it was\Nfrom that factory. Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.39,0:23:55.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That stuff that was made in that place\Nnever even made it here. Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.55,0:23:59.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Loblaw's shipping records \Nrevealed all these styles, Dialogue: 0,0:23:59.04,0:24:04.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hundreds of thousands of garments were \Nmade in Rana Plaza before the collapse, Dialogue: 0,0:24:04.24,0:24:08.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and sold in Joe Fresh sores this summer. Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.08,0:24:16.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how did clothes for Joe Fresh \Nend up beingmade Dialogue: 0,0:24:16.09,0:24:18.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the death-trap that was Rana Plaza? Dialogue: 0,0:24:18.44,0:24:20.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, that's a question we had\Nfor the factory owner. Dialogue: 0,0:24:20.67,0:24:23.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is he's behind bars, Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.00,0:24:25.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,charged with negligence\Nin the deaths of the workers. Dialogue: 0,0:24:25.70,0:24:28.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So "The Fifth Estate" petitioned \Nthe Bangladeshi government Dialogue: 0,0:24:28.60,0:24:30.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for permission to speak with him. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.14,0:24:33.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The government eventually agreed\Nbut with one condition. Dialogue: 0,0:24:33.58,0:24:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our camera would not be allowed\Ninside the prison. Dialogue: 0,0:24:39.01,0:24:44.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As public outrage grew after the collapse,\NBazlus Adnan surrendered to police. Dialogue: 0,0:24:44.30,0:24:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,His three factories occupied\Nalmost half of Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:24:48.90,0:24:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We arrived at Dhaka Central Jail,\Nwhere he's waiting trial. Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.44,0:24:55.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He began our interview saying Dialogue: 0,0:24:55.07,0:24:59.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how he parlayed an $8000 loan \Nfrom his dad in 1992, Dialogue: 0,0:24:59.27,0:25:02.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and turned it into a \N$15 million a year business, Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.77,0:25:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thanks in large part \Nto his best customer, Joe Fresh. Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.36,0:25:12.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joe Fresh was my biggest client, \Nabout $6 million year. Dialogue: 0,0:25:12.33,0:25:14.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is why I was going bigger. Dialogue: 0,0:25:14.63,0:25:17.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He says he was eager to \Nplease his biggest client, Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.52,0:25:23.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so work had begun on Rana Plaza to add \Na ninth floor for his booming business. Dialogue: 0,0:25:23.07,0:25:26.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked whether he was under pressure \Nto make clothes cheaper... and faster... Dialogue: 0,0:25:26.88,0:25:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody is doing this. Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.88,0:25:30.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They all squeezed me. Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.70,0:25:33.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Joe Fresh was a very good customer. Dialogue: 0,0:25:33.13,0:25:36.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Their policy was just ship it on time. Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.60,0:25:39.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before my time was up for the interview, Dialogue: 0,0:25:39.55,0:25:42.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked him to name one Loblaw employee Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.11,0:25:47.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had ever visited his factory at\NRana Plaza before the collapse. Dialogue: 0,0:25:48.46,0:25:50.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He couldn't. Dialogue: 0,0:25:51.86,0:25:55.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This ledger helps explain \Nhow that could happen. Dialogue: 0,0:25:55.00,0:25:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the entries here, we\Nlearned Loblaw placed orders Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.06,0:26:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a buying house in India\Ncalled House of Pearl, Dialogue: 0,0:26:00.89,0:26:06.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who, in turn, placed Joe Fresh orders\Nwith the factory at Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.19,0:26:07.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,House of Pearl, we learned, Dialogue: 0,0:26:07.83,0:26:12.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hired inspectors to check the quality\Nof the clothes made in Rana Plaza, Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.17,0:26:15.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but not to inspect building safety. Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.70,0:26:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Outsourcing ethical\Nresponsibilities to third parties, Dialogue: 0,0:26:20.80,0:26:24.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,enables companies like\NLoblaw to distance themselves Dialogue: 0,0:26:24.29,0:26:26.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the work being done on the ground, Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.70,0:26:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,according to our \NCanadian factory owner Barry Laxer. Dialogue: 0,0:26:30.96,0:26:34.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, after Rana Plaza happened\Nall these realities were saying, Dialogue: 0,0:26:34.17,0:26:35.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"well we didn't know." Dialogue: 0,0:26:35.68,0:26:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that true? Did they not know \Nwhat was going on in this country? Dialogue: 0,0:26:39.14,0:26:42.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of companies just want\Ncheap manufacturing. Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.51,0:26:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, they don't really look. Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.30,0:26:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or ask the tough questions. Dialogue: 0,0:26:48.82,0:26:51.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or ask the questions,\Nbecause if you don't ask the questions, Dialogue: 0,0:26:51.16,0:26:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't get the answers \Nthat you don't want to hear. Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.05,0:26:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Was the Rana Plaza collapse a\Nwakeup call? Dialogue: 0,0:26:56.18,0:26:58.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I mean, do you really believe this \Ngoing to change anything here? Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.97,0:27:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think in the end a lot of \Ncompanies are continuing Dialogue: 0,0:27:03.01,0:27:06.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just to look for margin and cost. Dialogue: 0,0:27:06.50,0:27:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And -- and... Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.04,0:27:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ultimately that's why\Nthey're here, right? Dialogue: 0,0:27:12.03,0:27:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why they're here. Dialogue: 0,0:27:13.53,0:27:15.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If that wasn't the issue, Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.45,0:27:19.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they could be buying products\Nmade in the United States or Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.37,0:27:28.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wanted to know more about the \Nworking conditions inside Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:27:28.75,0:27:32.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who better to tell us than the\Npeople who worked there. Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.13,0:27:34.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the collapse, Dialogue: 0,0:27:34.55,0:27:38.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cameras captured this footage \Nof survivors recovering in a hospital. Dialogue: 0,0:27:40.10,0:27:45.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were intrigued by this girl, who was \Ntrapped in the rubble for three days Dialogue: 0,0:27:45.15,0:27:48.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,pinned under two dead bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:27:48.76,0:27:51.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She lost her mother, as well as her leg. Dialogue: 0,0:27:53.02,0:27:58.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Both mother and daughter were\Nmaking clothes for Joe Fresh. Dialogue: 0,0:28:06.41,0:28:10.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Months after the collapse,\Nwe finally found her. Dialogue: 0,0:28:10.45,0:28:12.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her name is Aruti. Dialogue: 0,0:28:12.52,0:28:18.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She tells us she is 17, though\Nher grandmother says she is really 15. Dialogue: 0,0:28:18.02,0:28:21.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A kid making kids clothes for Canadians. Dialogue: 0,0:28:23.97,0:28:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you recognize these shorts? Dialogue: 0,0:28:26.74,0:28:28.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like these shorts. Dialogue: 0,0:28:30.00,0:28:32.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah.\NThese pants were there. Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.56,0:28:37.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She sewed pocket seams,\N150 pockets an hour. Dialogue: 0,0:28:38.06,0:28:41.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do you feel \Nwhen you look at these pants? Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.57,0:28:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel sad. Dialogue: 0,0:28:46.07,0:28:51.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I didn't work in that factory, \Nthis would not have happened. Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.87,0:28:55.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I feel very bad seeing these pants. Dialogue: 0,0:28:55.46,0:28:58.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She says she's been working \Nin the industry for three years, Dialogue: 0,0:28:58.89,0:29:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meaning she started\Nwhen she was just 12. Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.23,0:29:06.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like many women in Bangladesh,\Nshe felt it was her only hope. Dialogue: 0,0:29:08.04,0:29:13.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I was little, I thought I would grow\Nup, go to school, study, and have a job. Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.28,0:29:17.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you study, you have a job, \Na doctor, a teacher. Dialogue: 0,0:29:17.31,0:29:19.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can have any job. Dialogue: 0,0:29:19.51,0:29:24.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But I couldn't do it, because\NI'm poor, I have to work to eat. Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.32,0:29:27.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why I went into garment work. Dialogue: 0,0:29:28.56,0:29:33.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aruti's shift was punishing, \N12 hours a day, 7 days a week. Dialogue: 0,0:29:33.42,0:29:37.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when a rush order was placed, \Novertime was demanded. Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.40,0:29:41.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How did your bosses treat you\Nand the other workers? Dialogue: 0,0:29:43.23,0:29:48.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the others didn't know how to do\Nthe work, they used to yell and swear. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.04,0:29:53.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I can't work fast enough and meet \Nthe target, they'll swear at me as well. Dialogue: 0,0:29:53.06,0:29:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would feel really bad. Dialogue: 0,0:29:59.35,0:30:03.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She also remembers how cracks had been \Nspotted inside Rana Plaza Dialogue: 0,0:30:03.94,0:30:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the day before the tragedy. Dialogue: 0,0:30:05.95,0:30:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The building was evacuated. Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.78,0:30:09.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She didn't believe the building owner, Dialogue: 0,0:30:09.88,0:30:14.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who insisted everything was safe,\Njust hours before the collapse. Dialogue: 0,0:30:15.68,0:30:19.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is not a crack, it's just that \Nthe plaster came off Dialogue: 0,0:30:19.61,0:30:23.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit. They made it \Nseem a big thing. Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.78,0:30:29.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next day, April 24th, \Nher boss phoned her home Dialogue: 0,0:30:29.77,0:30:33.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and ordered her to get back to work, \Nor she'd be fired. Dialogue: 0,0:30:34.56,0:30:37.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On that day that they told you\Nto go back to work, Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.77,0:30:40.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,were you afraid? Were you worried that \Nthat building was dangerous? Dialogue: 0,0:30:44.00,0:30:46.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were many of us \Nwho didn't want to go. Dialogue: 0,0:30:46.62,0:30:49.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they forced us. They said, Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.27,0:30:55.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Don't worry, nothing will happen.\NAnd if you die we'll die, too." Dialogue: 0,0:30:55.03,0:30:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But they didn't go inside. Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.29,0:31:00.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They made us to start work and then left. Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.21,0:31:01.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was scared. Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.85,0:31:04.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there was nothing I could do. Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.02,0:31:09.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I stopped working, the line would stop,\Nand I would be in trouble. Dialogue: 0,0:31:12.18,0:31:14.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She and her fellow workers returned. Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.52,0:31:18.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,An hour later, the building collapsed. Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.95,0:31:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Aruti was on the 6th floor. Dialogue: 0,0:31:23.33,0:31:27.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What do you remember about the moment \Nthe building collapsed? Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.50,0:31:31.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When it collapsed, I thought, \NI wouldn't survive. Dialogue: 0,0:31:31.92,0:31:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two dead bodied fell on my leg\Nand my leg was stuck there. Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.42,0:31:39.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The roof fell on top of the bodies. Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.79,0:31:44.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know then that I would\Nactually come out alive. Dialogue: 0,0:31:46.58,0:31:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her family received some compensation \Nfrom the government Dialogue: 0,0:31:49.52,0:31:52.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the death of her mother \Nand the loss of her leg. Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.61,0:31:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When asked what she received from Loblaw, Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.43,0:31:58.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she told us she is still hoping. Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.34,0:32:01.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When we come back, Dialogue: 0,0:32:01.70,0:32:06.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we expose an even uglier side of the \Nfashion industry in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:32:08.44,0:32:11.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've been hit. You've been hit. Dialogue: 0,0:32:22.61,0:32:24.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After the collapse of Rana Plaza, Dialogue: 0,0:32:24.65,0:32:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Bangladeshi government scrambled \Nto assure nervous retailers and consumers Dialogue: 0,0:32:29.59,0:32:33.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the country was a safe \Nplace to do business. Dialogue: 0,0:32:34.71,0:32:35.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But even Loblaw, Dialogue: 0,0:32:35.85,0:32:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who had been making Joe Fresh \Nclothes in this country for 7 years, Dialogue: 0,0:32:39.57,0:32:42.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondered how garment workers \Ncould be exposed Dialogue: 0,0:32:42.20,0:32:45.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to what it called unacceptable risk. Dialogue: 0,0:32:46.58,0:32:50.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we took a closer look...\Nand discovered within 3 hours, Dialogue: 0,0:32:50.44,0:32:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how easy it was to find the ugly\Nside of fast fashion. Dialogue: 0,0:32:57.25,0:33:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A factory dumping technicolored\Nwaste water directly into a river. Dialogue: 0,0:33:06.06,0:33:08.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A river that now runs black. Dialogue: 0,0:33:11.62,0:33:16.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we saw a jute factory with\Nan open door that caught our eye. Dialogue: 0,0:33:17.36,0:33:20.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Inside, the air was tick with dust; Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.67,0:33:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dust from a toxic dye. Dialogue: 0,0:33:24.57,0:33:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yet no one here wore a mask. Dialogue: 0,0:33:31.34,0:33:35.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Within minutes, we were kicked out \Nby the owner and his thugs. Dialogue: 0,0:33:38.10,0:33:42.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Finally, we went into one last factory \Nwith a hidden camera. Dialogue: 0,0:33:42.66,0:33:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll show you a very good factory. \NEverything in one place. Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.48,0:33:49.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And found these children operating looms. Dialogue: 0,0:33:49.92,0:33:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One manager admitted some factory owners \Nhire kids under the age of 10 for menial jobs, Dialogue: 0,0:33:55.14,0:33:57.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and paid them about a dollar a day. Dialogue: 0,0:33:59.48,0:34:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The garment industry has made some \Npeople in this country fabulously rich, Dialogue: 0,0:34:04.49,0:34:07.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but poverty is still \Neverywhere you look. Dialogue: 0,0:34:09.06,0:34:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some of the poorest are these squatters\Nwho live next to the railway tracks, Dialogue: 0,0:34:13.55,0:34:16.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the shadow of wealth. Dialogue: 0,0:34:18.76,0:34:22.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This gleaming tower is home to the BGMEA. Dialogue: 0,0:34:22.42,0:34:25.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's the business group \Nthat represents the titans Dialogue: 0,0:34:25.24,0:34:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the garment industry in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:34:32.02,0:34:36.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We arrived to find a thousand \Nangry workers protesting outside. Dialogue: 0,0:34:37.48,0:34:41.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say they haven't been paid\Nby their employer in a month. Dialogue: 0,0:34:42.24,0:34:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They work for a factory that, \Nuntil last fall, Dialogue: 0,0:34:45.03,0:34:47.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made clothes for Canadians. Dialogue: 0,0:34:49.78,0:34:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what happened? Dialogue: 0,0:34:51.23,0:34:52.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Shoom, shoom, shoom. Dialogue: 0,0:34:52.89,0:34:55.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've been hit. You've been hit. Dialogue: 0,0:34:55.02,0:34:56.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd been hit. Dialogue: 0,0:34:56.63,0:34:59.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'd been hit. He'd been hit. Dialogue: 0,0:34:59.08,0:35:00.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who did this to you? Dialogue: 0,0:35:00.64,0:35:01.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bamboo. Dialogue: 0,0:35:01.43,0:35:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, yes, bamboo. Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.58,0:35:03.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who did this? Dialogue: 0,0:35:03.58,0:35:05.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The owners hired gangsters? Dialogue: 0,0:35:05.32,0:35:06.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, yes, gangster. Dialogue: 0,0:35:06.57,0:35:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what were you doing? Dialogue: 0,0:35:08.01,0:35:09.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were just protesting? Dialogue: 0,0:35:09.61,0:35:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.32,0:35:13.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You were protesting because you \Nwanted your back-wages. Dialogue: 0,0:35:13.79,0:35:14.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:35:14.43,0:35:16.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you make clothes for Canada? Dialogue: 0,0:35:16.69,0:35:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:35:19.52,0:35:23.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had some questions for the \Npowerful head of the garment industry, Dialogue: 0,0:35:23.22,0:35:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the top man Canadian retailers deal with. Dialogue: 0,0:35:26.50,0:35:30.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Atiqul Islam is a prominent \Nfactory owner in his own right. Dialogue: 0,0:35:30.35,0:35:34.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He's made clothes for Walmart\NCanada, Loblaw and HBC. Dialogue: 0,0:35:35.36,0:35:38.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I asked him about the protest \Noutside his window. Dialogue: 0,0:35:40.03,0:35:42.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is completely open industry. Dialogue: 0,0:35:42.56,0:35:45.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you don't like there you can\Ngo the other work there. Dialogue: 0,0:35:45.60,0:35:49.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a 25% worker shortage in\Nthe industry, still today. Dialogue: 0,0:35:49.96,0:35:52.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In other words, if workers are abused, Dialogue: 0,0:35:52.80,0:35:55.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his advice? Quit and work somewhere else. Dialogue: 0,0:35:55.98,0:35:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I ask him about the \Nbad factories we saw, Dialogue: 0,0:35:58.98,0:36:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the child labor, the pollution, \Nthe dangerous working conditions, Dialogue: 0,0:36:02.96,0:36:04.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wasn't alarmed. Dialogue: 0,0:36:04.77,0:36:07.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of factories that are \Nstate of the art. Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.05,0:36:09.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've seen the nice ones.\NWe've seen the state of the art. Dialogue: 0,0:36:09.95,0:36:13.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've seen the example of where\Nthe industry is moving. Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.30,0:36:15.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you're at a point right now Dialogue: 0,0:36:15.07,0:36:17.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where there are some \Nshining examples but... Dialogue: 0,0:36:17.55,0:36:18.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So for that, Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.64,0:36:21.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sometimes the shiny is covered \Nby the cloud of this kind of thing. Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.99,0:36:25.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we need to clean the cloud. Dialogue: 0,0:36:25.45,0:36:27.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what about illegal subcontracting, Dialogue: 0,0:36:27.96,0:36:31.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when one factory gives order \Nto another without approval? Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.75,0:36:35.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If the factories are overbooked, they \Nmust say no, I'm overbooked. Dialogue: 0,0:36:35.45,0:36:38.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as well as from the outside, \Nthe retailers side also. Dialogue: 0,0:36:38.65,0:36:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But you're a businessman. Dialogue: 0,0:36:40.41,0:36:43.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are they really going to say I'm \Noverbooked and I can't take the business? Dialogue: 0,0:36:43.27,0:36:44.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yah, yah, yah. Dialogue: 0,0:36:44.21,0:36:45.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everybody wants the business. Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.35,0:36:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, no, no.\NIt's not like that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:46.87,0:36:49.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Things are completely changed.\NIt is not like that. Dialogue: 0,0:36:49.41,0:36:53.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had spoken with some sources \Nwho work for Walmart Canada. Dialogue: 0,0:36:53.13,0:36:56.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They placed an order with your group, Dialogue: 0,0:36:56.02,0:36:59.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they said that that order \Nwas then ended up being Dialogue: 0,0:36:59.18,0:37:02.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,made at factory that was not approved. Dialogue: 0,0:37:02.33,0:37:04.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hasan Tanvir. Dialogue: 0,0:37:04.27,0:37:05.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hasan? Dialogue: 0,0:37:05.12,0:37:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hasan Tanvir. Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.36,0:37:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember that Walmart shirt -- Dialogue: 0,0:37:08.57,0:37:12.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, we had questions about \Nwho exactly made it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:16.84,0:37:20.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We showed it to workers and\Nthey said "yah", they made it. Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.35,0:37:27.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is very difficult for me to know \Nwhether I'm making this, number one. Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.38,0:37:30.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And number two, there's no way that\Nwe're giving the goods to the outside. Dialogue: 0,0:37:30.96,0:37:36.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's absolutely no way.\NOur all garments is made in our factory. Dialogue: 0,0:37:36.74,0:37:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Walmart told us Mr. Islam did indeed \Nhave the contract to make Sujeet's shirt. Dialogue: 0,0:37:42.38,0:37:46.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at his own factory, \Nnot not Hasan Tanvir. Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.18,0:37:50.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Thank you, I'll take that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:50.65,0:37:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't need that. Dialogue: 0,0:37:52.25,0:37:55.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can I just see this one thing.\NJust have a seat and I, uh.... Dialogue: 0,0:37:55.80,0:37:56.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Absolutely. Dialogue: 0,0:37:56.78,0:38:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then something extraordinary\Nhappened after our interview wrapped up... Dialogue: 0,0:38:02.11,0:38:03.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look in the background, Dialogue: 0,0:38:03.52,0:38:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as Mr. Islam conceals the garment\Nbehind his desk with a pen in hand. Dialogue: 0,0:38:15.64,0:38:20.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,After we left we noticed the tag\Non the shirt had been defaced. Dialogue: 0,0:38:20.02,0:38:24.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The barcode and the Canadian\Nimport number that could connect Dialogue: 0,0:38:24.49,0:38:27.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their shirt to Atiqul Islam's\Ncompany were blacked out. Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.97,0:38:32.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We asked him the next day if he\Ndid it. He denied it. Dialogue: 0,0:38:33.66,0:38:37.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As for Loblaw and Joe Fresh --\Nthe Canadian company insists Dialogue: 0,0:38:37.56,0:38:41.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it will help lead lead the way \Nto clean up the industry in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:38:41.62,0:38:45.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our industry can be a force for good. Dialogue: 0,0:38:45.25,0:38:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Properly inspected, well built\Nfactories play (an) important role Dialogue: 0,0:38:51.14,0:38:54.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the development of\Ncountries such as Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:38:55.26,0:38:59.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did Loblaw properly inspect before \NRana Plaza before the collapse? Dialogue: 0,0:38:59.47,0:39:02.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say they did visit the factory. Dialogue: 0,0:39:02.20,0:39:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So why were they still \Nmaking clothes there? Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.00,0:39:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what we wanted to ask Joe Mimran, Dialogue: 0,0:39:08.58,0:39:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we were told he wasn't \Navailable for an interview. Dialogue: 0,0:39:12.85,0:39:15.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am troubled by the deafening silence Dialogue: 0,0:39:15.99,0:39:19.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from other apparel retailers \Non this issue. Dialogue: 0,0:39:19.43,0:39:22.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And while Loblaw CEO Galen Weston Dialogue: 0,0:39:22.52,0:39:25.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,publicly criticizes other companies \Nfor their deafening silence, Dialogue: 0,0:39:25.82,0:39:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he declined to be interviewed \Nfor this story. Dialogue: 0,0:39:32.20,0:39:33.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Loblaw did send us an email \N Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.93,0:39:37.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outlining their efforts to \Nhelp workers in Bangladesh. Dialogue: 0,0:39:37.00,0:39:38.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They say since the collapse Dialogue: 0,0:39:38.58,0:39:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've contributed a million\Ndollars to two charities, Dialogue: 0,0:39:41.65,0:39:44.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and joined a compliance accord \Nwith other retailers Dialogue: 0,0:39:44.48,0:39:48.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aimed at improving working \Nconditions in Bangladesh, Dialogue: 0,0:39:48.31,0:39:51.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the company will now \Nput "boots on the ground" Dialogue: 0,0:39:51.17,0:39:54.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somewhere "in the region" \Nto inspect factories. Dialogue: 0,0:39:57.11,0:39:58.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But there's another way. Dialogue: 0,0:39:58.63,0:40:01.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Canadian factory owner Barry\NLaxer wanted a safe factory, Dialogue: 0,0:40:01.94,0:40:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so he built one. Dialogue: 0,0:40:03.62,0:40:06.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's run by a Canadian team. Dialogue: 0,0:40:06.38,0:40:09.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he visits it regularly. Dialogue: 0,0:40:09.80,0:40:15.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what are the effects then \Nof paying the cheapest possible price Dialogue: 0,0:40:15.21,0:40:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a country like Bangladesh? Dialogue: 0,0:40:17.32,0:40:19.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sooner or later there'll be\Nanother Rana Plaza. Dialogue: 0,0:40:19.56,0:40:20.100,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just a matter of time. Dialogue: 0,0:40:20.100,0:40:23.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sooner or later there'll be\Nanother fire somewhere Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.83,0:40:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that will claim more lives. Dialogue: 0,0:40:25.86,0:40:30.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because Bangladesh is just the\Nfloor and the testing ground Dialogue: 0,0:40:30.07,0:40:33.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for how cheap products can be sold. Dialogue: 0,0:40:36.24,0:40:39.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before former Walmart designer \NSujeet Sennik left Bangladesh, Dialogue: 0,0:40:39.82,0:40:42.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had one more stop to make. Dialogue: 0,0:40:43.67,0:40:46.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's one last thing I wanted\Nto show you before you go. Dialogue: 0,0:40:47.56,0:40:51.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is where Rana Plaza once stood. Dialogue: 0,0:40:53.12,0:40:55.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Oh my god. Dialogue: 0,0:40:57.43,0:40:59.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's nothing left. Dialogue: 0,0:40:59.100,0:41:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are people walking around. Dialogue: 0,0:41:01.62,0:41:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in Canada wearing clothes that\Nwere made by these people who died here. Dialogue: 0,0:41:08.76,0:41:12.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is kind of a monument to greed. Dialogue: 0,0:41:15.53,0:41:18.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a product of \Nthe race to the bottom. Dialogue: 0,0:41:21.19,0:41:23.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what are consumers to do? Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.24,0:41:26.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Boycott clothes made in Bangladesh? Dialogue: 0,0:41:26.24,0:41:30.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The jobs are pulling millions of\Nwomen out of poverty. Dialogue: 0,0:41:31.21,0:41:37.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Aruti who, despite her loss, knows \Nhas to go back to work. Dialogue: 0,0:41:37.04,0:41:39.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Especially now that her mother is gone Dialogue: 0,0:41:39.38,0:41:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she'll have to support her \Nyounger sisters and her grandmother. Dialogue: 0,0:41:44.88,0:41:49.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you want to go back and work\Ninside a garment factory now? Dialogue: 0,0:41:50.07,0:41:52.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I wanted to work in the factory, Dialogue: 0,0:41:52.86,0:41:57.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's not possible to walk back and forth\Nand go up and down the stairs. Dialogue: 0,0:41:57.93,0:42:02.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't do it yet.\NThat's the issue now. Dialogue: 0,0:42:02.34,0:42:04.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I will be able to go back, Dialogue: 0,0:42:04.99,0:42:08.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'm afraid. Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.11,0:42:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, after watching tonight's episode, Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.74,0:42:17.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you may be wondering more \Nabout the clothe you buy Dialogue: 0,0:42:17.72,0:42:19.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how they were made. Dialogue: 0,0:42:19.75,0:42:22.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well for some of the brands \Nand lines of clothing Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.09,0:42:24.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we mentioned on tonight's program, Dialogue: 0,0:42:24.11,0:42:27.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you can find out more information \Nby going to our website. Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.37,0:42:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's at cbc.ca/fifth. Dialogue: 0,0:42:30.36,0:42:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Of course we'll continue \Nto update that website Dialogue: 0,0:42:32.70,0:42:36.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the developments on this story \Nin the weeks and months ahead. Dialogue: 0,0:42:36.31,0:42:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Stay with us. \NWe'll be right back after this.