An Armenian Genocide survivor's story | Lucine Z. Kinoian | TEDxBergenCommunityCollege
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0:04 - 0:09In 1913, the Ottoman Empire
came to be ruled -
0:09 - 0:13by Talaat, Enver and Djemal Pasha.
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0:13 - 0:14Under their leadership,
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0:14 - 0:19a national movement was orchestrated
to unify the Turkic people in the region, -
0:19 - 0:23and ultimately remove
all non-Muslims from the land. -
0:24 - 0:28The presence of the Armenian people,
as well as other Christian minorities, -
0:28 - 0:31was not conducive
to this new Turkish ideology, -
0:31 - 0:36and thus the Armenians were subjected
to systematic decapitalization, -
0:36 - 0:39deportation and ultimate extermination.
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0:40 - 0:42Over a hundred years have passed
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0:42 - 0:45since the events that marked
the start of the Armenian Genocide. -
0:46 - 0:50From 1915 into the early 1920s,
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0:50 - 0:55over 1.5 million Armenians
lost their lives -
0:55 - 0:57at the hands of the Ottoman
Turkish government. -
0:58 - 1:01Over 1.5 million lives cut prematurely,
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1:01 - 1:05over 1.5 million stories were never told.
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1:06 - 1:07But I'm here today
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1:07 - 1:10to tell one story of
an Armenian Genocide survivor, -
1:11 - 1:13my great-grandmother, Anna Tutundjian.
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1:15 - 1:22Anna's story begins in Sivas, Turkey,
where she was born in 1903. -
1:22 - 1:26She was 11 years old in the summer of 1915
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1:26 - 1:30when Ottoman Turkish
officials came into town -
1:30 - 1:32and rounded up all of the Armenians.
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1:33 - 1:38The men and young boys
were soon separated from the group, -
1:38 - 1:39and Anna watched
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1:39 - 1:44as her father, uncles and beloved cousins
were shot to death. -
1:45 - 1:49Shortly after the men were
removed and killed, -
1:49 - 1:52the infant babies were taken
from their mothers, -
1:52 - 1:55including Anna's baby brother.
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1:55 - 2:02These babies were then buried
in the ground only up to their shoulders, -
2:02 - 2:06and Anna watched
as horses trampled over them. -
2:07 - 2:09All that remained at the end of the day
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2:08 - 2:12were the women, the young girls,
and the elderly. -
2:13 - 2:16But fate wouldn't spare them much longer.
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2:16 - 2:20Soon after, the officials came back,
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2:20 - 2:22and they ordered
all of the Armenian women, -
2:22 - 2:23and all who remained,
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2:23 - 2:25that they needed to evacuate their homes.
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2:26 - 2:31Anna remembers helping her mother
tie whatever belongings they could -
2:31 - 2:33into sheets,
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2:33 - 2:35and sew their belongings into sheets.
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2:36 - 2:42And very soon, the women, including Anna,
her mother and her sisters, -
2:42 - 2:44began a march, a death march,
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2:44 - 2:48ultimately through Turkey
into and through the Syrian desert. -
2:54 - 2:56On this march, they had no food,
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2:56 - 2:59other than whatever
they had carried from home. -
2:59 - 3:02And, as you can imagine,
it didn't last very long. -
3:02 - 3:05They walked all day,
and only stopped at night. -
3:05 - 3:08Water was scarce.
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3:08 - 3:12Anna says that whenever they saw
a spring or a well, -
3:12 - 3:14they would try to go to it
and fill their jugs. -
3:14 - 3:17But that's only if they were able
to get away from the caravan -
3:17 - 3:19without being noticed.
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3:19 - 3:24Anna says she was with hundreds
of women - women, children alike, -
3:24 - 3:27and she remembers
it took about two or three days -
3:27 - 3:31before the first of these women
began to drop out of formation. -
3:33 - 3:37One morning, early one morning,
before the march began again, -
3:37 - 3:41Anna and her sisters were at a well
filling their water jug. -
3:41 - 3:45While at the well, a man grabbed her.
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3:46 - 3:48Anna screamed and kicked and cried out,
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3:48 - 3:51and her sisters ran back
to get their mother. -
3:51 - 3:55But by the time their mother returned,
by the time the sisters returned, -
3:55 - 3:57Anna had been taken.
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3:58 - 4:01Anna does not know
where her abductor took her, -
4:01 - 4:06but, at 11 years old,
he chose her to be his new wife. -
4:07 - 4:09He already had a wife though.
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4:09 - 4:10Many, in fact,
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4:10 - 4:14and she became one of about 15 or 20
other young Armenian girls, -
4:14 - 4:17just like herself, in his harem.
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4:18 - 4:22Anna says that he would
pretty much leave her alone, -
4:22 - 4:26but that he also called her
his "pretty one". -
4:27 - 4:32Within the year,
Anna had given birth to a daughter. -
4:32 - 4:38And by the time Anna was 13 years old,
she had given birth to another. -
4:40 - 4:42Although she loved her children,
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4:42 - 4:44day after day, she thought
only about running away, -
4:44 - 4:46she missed her mother and her sisters,
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4:46 - 4:50and wanted more than anything
to leave this man. -
4:51 - 4:53The problem was she was never alone.
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4:53 - 4:57There was never a window of opportunity
for her to do anything by herself, -
4:57 - 4:59let alone escape.
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4:59 - 5:02The girls always had
to accompany each other -
5:02 - 5:05no matter where they went,
or what they did. -
5:05 - 5:11If a girl stepped out of line,
or tried to do anything on her own, -
5:11 - 5:13the girls would squeal on one another
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5:13 - 5:16in hopes of being rewarded
by their captor. -
5:19 - 5:24One night, the girl who was supposed
to accompany Anna to the outhouse -
5:24 - 5:26was too tired to do so.
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5:26 - 5:28She let Anna go alone,
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5:28 - 5:32figuring probably
that Anna has two daughters, -
5:32 - 5:34she's going to go,
do her business, and come back. -
5:34 - 5:37But Anna took that
as an opportunity to escape. -
5:38 - 5:39And she did.
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5:39 - 5:41She ran and managed to escape ...
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5:42 - 5:43although alone.
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5:44 - 5:46She ran through the night,
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5:46 - 5:50and eventually made her way
to an Armenian church. -
5:51 - 5:54However, the church couldn't help her,
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5:54 - 5:57and she ended up running away
from them as well. -
5:57 - 6:01She's still only 13 years old.
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6:01 - 6:05She found an Armenian priest
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6:05 - 6:08who took her in, gave her a refuge,
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6:08 - 6:12and ultimately helped her
to get to Aleppo, Syria, -
6:12 - 6:16which at the time was becoming
a makeshift resettlement community -
6:16 - 6:18for all of the Armenians
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6:18 - 6:21who were surviving
the death marches through the desert. -
6:22 - 6:25Anna lived in an orphanage for years.
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6:25 - 6:29She worked with other survivors,
other girls her age, -
6:29 - 6:31working, and weaving rugs.
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6:32 - 6:34And every Armenian she met, she'd ask,
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6:34 - 6:36"Do you know my family?
Do you know my mother? -
6:36 - 6:38Have you heard what happened to them?"
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6:38 - 6:41And one day, her question was answered.
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6:41 - 6:43"Yes, I know your mother.
I know your sisters. -
6:43 - 6:45They're alive. They survived.
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6:45 - 6:47They're living in Marseilles, France."
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6:49 - 6:55With the help of the AGBU,
the Armenian General Benevolent Union, -
6:55 - 6:58an Armenian humanitarian organization,
still very active today, -
6:58 - 7:01Anna was able to go to France,
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7:01 - 7:05and was finally reunited with her mother.
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7:05 - 7:08At this point, she was in her early 20s.
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7:09 - 7:11This reunion, however, was short-lived
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7:11 - 7:13because, unbeknown to Anna,
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7:13 - 7:15halfway around the world in America,
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7:15 - 7:19her future husband
was making his way to France. -
7:19 - 7:24Now, by 1925, my great-grandfather,
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7:24 - 7:26Kevork Malikyan,
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7:26 - 7:28had been living in America
for over 20 years. -
7:28 - 7:30He was married
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7:30 - 7:32and had two daughters of his own.
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7:32 - 7:34One of them was a newborn,
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7:34 - 7:37and his wife was having a hard time
producing milk for the newborn -
7:37 - 7:40and was given the advice
that she should ice her chest. -
7:41 - 7:44This, however, caused her
to get pneumonia, -
7:44 - 7:45and she died,
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7:45 - 7:49leaving Kevork alone
to care for his two girls. -
7:49 - 7:53And he was able to get by for a while
with the help of some relatives. -
7:53 - 7:56But after some time,
these relatives were saying, -
7:56 - 7:57"This is too much for us.
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7:57 - 7:59You need to remarry.
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7:59 - 8:02You need to find a wife
and someone to take care of your girls." -
8:02 - 8:05He was told that there was
a large Armenian community -
8:05 - 8:07living in Marseilles.
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8:07 - 8:11He should go there, find a wife,
bring one home. -
8:12 - 8:13So he did.
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8:13 - 8:16In 1925, my great-grandfather
went to Marseilles. -
8:16 - 8:20He went to the rug factory
where Anna was working, -
8:20 - 8:21and admired her.
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8:21 - 8:25He then found her mother,
told her of his intentions, -
8:25 - 8:28By the time Anna came home
from work that night, -
8:28 - 8:30the arrangements were all made.
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8:30 - 8:32Kevork and Anna were married the next day.
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8:32 - 8:37Shortly after their little
wedding ceremony, -
8:37 - 8:40they boarded a ship and came to America.
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8:41 - 8:45Kevork and Anna went on
to have three more children. -
8:45 - 8:48Their first, born in 1927,
is my grandmother. -
8:49 - 8:51Growing up, my grandmother knew
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8:51 - 8:54that her mother was
an Armenian Genocide survivor. -
8:54 - 8:56However, the genocide
was never spoken about, -
8:56 - 8:58except in very generalized terms,
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8:58 - 9:02like, "The horrors we Armenians saw",
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9:02 - 9:06or, "The crimes the Turks,
the Ottoman Turks, did to us". -
9:08 - 9:12After Kevork's passing in 1962,
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9:13 - 9:17Anna started receiving letters
from relatives in Turkey. -
9:18 - 9:20When my grandmother questioned her
about these letters, -
9:20 - 9:23she would say that they were
from sisters of hers. -
9:24 - 9:28But these were sisters that Anna
had never previously spoken about. -
9:28 - 9:30These were sisters that, growing up,
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9:30 - 9:33my grandmother never even knew existed.
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9:33 - 9:37In the beginning of the summer of 1964,
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9:37 - 9:40Anna announced
that she was going to go visit them. -
9:41 - 9:43This caused my grandmother great stress
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9:43 - 9:46because Anna had never traveled
anywhere alone in her adult life, -
9:46 - 9:49let alone to another country.
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9:49 - 9:53And she hadn't been to Turkey
since she was an 11-year-old child. -
9:54 - 9:57But Anna was a stubborn woman,
and she persisted, -
9:57 - 9:59and in the beginning of
the summer of 1964, -
10:00 - 10:01she went back to Turkey.
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10:03 - 10:09When she returned
at the end of the summer of 1964, -
10:09 - 10:12she sat my grandmother down
and admitted to her -
10:13 - 10:16that the sister she had gone to visit,
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10:17 - 10:21the relative she had gone to visit,
the women she was calling her "sisters", -
10:21 - 10:22weren't actually her sisters.
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10:22 - 10:24They were her two daughters,
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10:24 - 10:27the two daughters she had abandoned
when she was 13 years old. -
10:29 - 10:30In the letters of correspondence
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10:30 - 10:32she had been sending
back and forth to Turkey, -
10:33 - 10:36she found out that her abductor had died.
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10:36 - 10:38So for the first time in nearly 50 years,
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10:38 - 10:42she felt it was safe to go back
and to go find these girls, -
10:42 - 10:45who, of course, themselves
were women at the time. -
10:47 - 10:51It took Anna 50 years to speak the truth
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10:51 - 10:55of what she witnessed with the massacres
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10:55 - 10:58and with her experience
of being abducted and the rape. -
11:00 - 11:02And ...
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11:04 - 11:08while I could have chosen to tell -
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11:08 - 11:10While I chose to tell Anna's story,
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11:10 - 11:14I could just as well have told
any of my great-grandparents' story, -
11:14 - 11:16all of whom survived the genocide,
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11:16 - 11:20all of whom experienced
equally incomprehensible hardships. -
11:23 - 11:27I am here today because of
the strength that they had, -
11:27 - 11:30and I see that strength
continue to be embodied every day -
11:30 - 11:32in my parents and in my grandparents.
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11:33 - 11:39I say that I'm an Armenian-American,
a third-generation Armenian-American, -
11:39 - 11:41but it might be more fitting to say
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11:41 - 11:46that I am a third-generation
Armenian Genocide survivor, -
11:47 - 11:51because I am the great-great-grandchild
of men and women -
11:51 - 11:55who never even had an opportunity
to dream that I would exist. -
11:56 - 11:59So I like to think
it's my duty and my obligation -
11:59 - 12:00to tell their story
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12:00 - 12:04and to keep the history of all of those
who came before me alive. -
12:04 - 12:06Thank you.
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12:06 - 12:09(Applause)
- Title:
- An Armenian Genocide survivor's story | Lucine Z. Kinoian | TEDxBergenCommunityCollege
- Description:
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Lucine Z. Kinoian's talk is on the circumstance and luck that allowed her paternal great-grandparents to survive the Armenian Genocide in spite of the demoralizing suffering they endured, and the looming, inevitable fate that took the lives of their relatives and loved ones. Kinoian's talk will focus specifically on her great-grandmother, whose story is that of abduction and abuse. Kinoian believes that who we are as individuals is a product of all those who came before us, and that we have an obligation to ourselves, to our society, and to the world at large, to know, acknowledge, and learn from the stories of our past. Over a century has passed since the events that mark the start of the Armenian Genocide, and in telling her great- grandmother's story, Kinoian hopes to be the voice of a generation that is long gone and in danger of being forgotten.
Lucine Z. Kinoian is a third-generation Armenian-American who is active in the respective New York and New Jersey Armenian communities. She holds a Bachelor's degree in Comparative Literature and Philosophy from Rutgers University and a Master’s degree in English Education from Columbia University. Kinoian currently works as an English teacher in the Tenafly, NJ school district.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 12:14