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Welcome back to "The Prayer Link".
And there is no doubt
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that we are heading into darker times,
and some might even say
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that we're heading into the last days.
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Some do say, but one man is crying out
for the church to wake up
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and become light in the darkness.
And he is kickstarting believers
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to heal the sick, preach the gospel,
cast out demons
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and be led by the Holy Spirit.
Take a look.
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What does it mean that the tomb is empty?
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It means that He's alive.
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So, if He's alive, than we can have
a relationship?
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Yeah.
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Lungs be restored again.
Grow in the name of Jesus Christ.
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- Can you... (inhale)?
- Oh, Allah!
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Ladies and gentlemen,
this is Mambo No. 5.
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I knew that me, my family and
everyone around me
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needed to be baptized, needed to
draw closer to Jesus.
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The Last Reformation
The Life
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And Torben Sondergaard produced
"The Last Reformation"
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and it started a global movement
by the same name
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and he joins us to share more.
Torben, welcome to the "Prayer Link".
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Thank you!
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"The Last Reformation - The Life"
is a sequel to your first movie. Right?
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Tell us about it.
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First, the reason we call it
"The Last Reformation" is because...
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The first reformation was with Martin Luther.
We saw that from Germany.
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But Martin Luther did not reform
the Catholic Church back to the Book of Acts.
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We saw few changes here and there,
but where is the life?
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Where is the power of God?
Where is being led by the Holy Spirit?
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Where is the healing?
Where is the casting out demons?
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Where is the preaching?
Where is the baptism with full immersion?
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All of this, Martin Luther did not reform.
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And we need a new reformation,
and hopefully, it's the last one
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before Jesus comes back,
because He's coming back soon.
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And there is just a longing to come back
to the real life we read about in the Bible.
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Torben, you said this has kickstarted
a global movement. Tell us about that.
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God took us on a journey, me and my wife,
many years ago, and we are still
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on a journey today. But on that journey
we started to ask a lot of questions.
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Why do we do the church the way we do it?
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Like, I've been working as an evangelist,
I've done church plant,
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but out in that desert, we looked back at
our life and looked at the church from outside
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and then we had the Bible. And we looked
at the early church, the Book of Acts,
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how they were living, and I:
"Something is wrong."
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Like, I do ministry, I preach, but
I didn't see this life.
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At one time in our life
we came to a point we lost everything
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and we came to that point:
We have nothing more to lose.
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Let's just say it as it is.
Let's just give it out.
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And then we found out that when you
start to say it, it just...
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...did something in people's hearts.
And many people, actually,
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came to me and said: Torben, you just put
words on what we already had on our hearts.
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Something is wrong,
something is happening right now.
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And it started with a book I wrote
called "The Last Reformation"
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and suddenly became a movement
there's all over the world,
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and now we see hundreds of thousands
people healed,
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we see ten thousands of people
come to faith.
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And what is beautiful is -
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it's for every believer.
And I think that is the main thing.
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We have lost, first, the gospel,
we have lost the life,
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we have lost the focus on discipleship
and the understanding that God
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wants to use every believer.
You don't have to be ordained,
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you don't have to be on a seminary
and the Bible school.
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You can learn, learn through discipleship
to preach the gospel.
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You can learn through discipleship
to heal the sick, to cast out demons.
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And it doesn't have to happen
in a platform in a church.
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It can happen in a living room,
it can happen all over.
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I was in Paris a year ago.
We were standing outside the Eiffel Tower.
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And a girl came and we started
to preach the gospel
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and a demon manifested. She fell down,
she got set free from a demon,
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outside the Eiffel Tower, with a group
of 300-400 people who came
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and were standing around...
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You're just standing outside the Eiffel Tower
public?
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Public. When we saw the deliverance
public there,
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I was like...
But at the same time,
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if you just take the Bible, it happened
out there, it happened among the people.
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They never took it inside the room
and said:
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Now deliverance has to be ten hours
of counseling, in a room.
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No, we counsel when it needs counseling,
but when we need to cast out demons -
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we cast out demons. I think that
have been lost. And it's happening now.
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So, tell me this, Torben.
You are facing some persecution in Denmark.
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Tell us what's been happening?
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I love Jesus and we have looked a lot
about the discipleship
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and Jesus have sent us to go out,
preach the gospel, heal the sick,
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cast out demons, all of that.
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Together with that comes the persecution.
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Jesus said: They will whip you in
their synagogues.
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That is the religious people who are
persecuting us. We have done that.
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The next thing He said is that they will
put us in front of counselors in court cases.
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We haven't experienced that, but
it's been crazy in Denmark, so...
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In the beginning of January
we experienced a massive persecution.
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And it, actually, ended up that we are
seeking asylum in America now.
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The 24th of January me and my family
packed eight suitcases
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and we left Denmark. They have now
put a law in Denmark.
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They talked about me in the Danish
government.
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They've put a law. By law it's illegal
to cast out demons in front of kids.
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Unbelievable! Oh wow!
In front of kids?
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Yeah, in front of kids or handicap.
Just in front of and do it,
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plus, they adopted the mental violence law...
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It's just so crazy because...
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It's what Jesus said to do?
It's in the Bible.
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Yeah, it is. And then they have
the mental violence law,
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and how do you define the mental violence.
Physical violence you know
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if you hit somebody. Mental violence,
they are actually saying in the Danish law
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that if you ground kids on a longer period
that could be mental violence.
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Wow!
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If you have kids who think they are
homosexual and you, as parents, go...
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That could be mental violence.
But the only thing they put in the law
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to define it - it was casting demons out.
- Wow!
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- But does it look you'll be able to come here?
- It's amazing!
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- We don't know yet.
- We're gonna pray for him.
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I would say, I'm smiling, I'm excited
about what God is doing,
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but the last half of the year have been
the most crazy experience, like...
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I've always been proud of being Danish,
have a Danish passport.
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We've traveled to 30 countries...
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Sure. You don't wanna leave your country.
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No. And I never imagined that
this could happen.
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And I think also, my message to America
is that, if you never imagined it could happen,
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if nothing is changing now,
what I've experienced in Denmark,
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with changing of laws and leaving
the country, and persecution,
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it's also going to happen in America,
if nothing is changing.
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I wish we have more time,
but we will be praying
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and our viewers will be praying for you
as well.
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Definitely praying for Torben.
That's right. Thanks so much...