[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.83,0:00:03.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Welcome back to "The Prayer Link".\NAnd there is no doubt Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.44,0:00:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we are heading into darker times,\Nand some might even say Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.36,0:00:09.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we're heading into the last days. Dialogue: 0,0:00:09.35,0:00:13.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some do say, but one man is crying out\Nfor the church to wake up Dialogue: 0,0:00:13.14,0:00:16.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and become light in the darkness.\NAnd he is kickstarting believers Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.70,0:00:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to heal the sick, preach the gospel,\Ncast out demons Dialogue: 0,0:00:19.71,0:00:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and be led by the Holy Spirit.\NTake a look. Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.31,0:00:24.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What does it mean that the tomb is empty? Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.53,0:00:26.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It means that He's alive. Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.94,0:00:30.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, if He's alive, than we can have\Na relationship? Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.05,0:00:31.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah. Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.17,0:00:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Lungs be restored again. \NGrow in the name of Jesus Christ. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.11,0:00:36.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- Can you... (inhale)?\N- Oh, Allah! Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.45,0:00:41.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ladies and gentlemen,\Nthis is Mambo No. 5. Dialogue: 0,0:00:41.26,0:00:44.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew that me, my family and\Neveryone around me Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.81,0:00:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,needed to be baptized, needed to\Ndraw closer to Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:00:54.20,0:00:56.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Last Reformation\NThe Life Dialogue: 0,0:00:56.100,0:00:59.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Torben Sondergaard produced\N"The Last Reformation" Dialogue: 0,0:00:59.60,0:01:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it started a global movement\Nby the same name Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.38,0:01:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he joins us to share more.\NTorben, welcome to the "Prayer Link". Dialogue: 0,0:01:05.47,0:01:06.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you! Dialogue: 0,0:01:06.18,0:01:11.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"The Last Reformation - The Life"\Nis a sequel to your first movie. Right? Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.06,0:01:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us about it. Dialogue: 0,0:01:12.38,0:01:15.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,First, the reason we call it \N"The Last Reformation" is because... Dialogue: 0,0:01:16.24,0:01:20.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first reformation was with Martin Luther.\NWe saw that from Germany. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.94,0:01:26.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Martin Luther did not reform \Nthe Catholic Church back to the Book of Acts. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.64,0:01:30.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We saw few changes here and there,\Nbut where is the life? Dialogue: 0,0:01:30.73,0:01:33.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is the power of God?\NWhere is being led by the Holy Spirit? Dialogue: 0,0:01:33.43,0:01:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is the healing? \NWhere is the casting out demons? Dialogue: 0,0:01:35.30,0:01:38.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where is the preaching?\NWhere is the baptism with full immersion? Dialogue: 0,0:01:38.76,0:01:41.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All of this, Martin Luther did not reform. Dialogue: 0,0:01:41.56,0:01:45.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we need a new reformation, \Nand hopefully, it's the last one Dialogue: 0,0:01:45.31,0:01:48.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,before Jesus comes back,\Nbecause He's coming back soon. Dialogue: 0,0:01:48.67,0:01:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And there is just a longing to come back\Nto the real life we read about in the Bible. Dialogue: 0,0:01:53.81,0:01:57.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Torben, you said this has kickstarted\Na global movement. Tell us about that. Dialogue: 0,0:01:59.12,0:02:02.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God took us on a journey, me and my wife,\Nmany years ago, and we are still Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.70,0:02:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on a journey today. But on that journey \Nwe started to ask a lot of questions. Dialogue: 0,0:02:07.28,0:02:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do we do the church the way we do it? Dialogue: 0,0:02:09.90,0:02:13.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, I've been working as an evangelist,\NI've done church plant, Dialogue: 0,0:02:13.05,0:02:18.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but out in that desert, we looked back at \Nour life and looked at the church from outside Dialogue: 0,0:02:18.55,0:02:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we had the Bible. And we looked\Nat the early church, the Book of Acts, Dialogue: 0,0:02:23.54,0:02:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how they were living, and I:\N"Something is wrong." Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.34,0:02:32.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like, I do ministry, I preach, but\NI didn't see this life. Dialogue: 0,0:02:33.10,0:02:36.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At one time in our life\Nwe came to a point we lost everything Dialogue: 0,0:02:36.41,0:02:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we came to that point:\NWe have nothing more to lose. Dialogue: 0,0:02:38.94,0:02:42.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's just say it as it is. \NLet's just give it out. Dialogue: 0,0:02:42.70,0:02:47.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then we found out that when you\Nstart to say it, it just... Dialogue: 0,0:02:47.77,0:02:50.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,...did something in people's hearts. \NAnd many people, actually, Dialogue: 0,0:02:50.20,0:02:55.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,came to me and said: Torben, you just put\Nwords on what we already had on our hearts. Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.16,0:02:57.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something is wrong, \Nsomething is happening right now. Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.33,0:03:00.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it started with a book I wrote\Ncalled "The Last Reformation" Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.45,0:03:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and suddenly became a movement\Nthere's all over the world, Dialogue: 0,0:03:03.51,0:03:05.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and now we see hundreds of thousands \Npeople healed, Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.78,0:03:07.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we see ten thousands of people\Ncome to faith. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.58,0:03:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what is beautiful is -\N Dialogue: 0,0:03:09.90,0:03:13.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's for every believer.\NAnd I think that is the main thing. Dialogue: 0,0:03:13.22,0:03:17.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have lost, first, the gospel,\Nwe have lost the life, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.77,0:03:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we have lost the focus on discipleship\Nand the understanding that God Dialogue: 0,0:03:21.50,0:03:24.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wants to use every believer.\NYou don't have to be ordained, Dialogue: 0,0:03:24.87,0:03:27.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you don't have to be on a seminary\Nand the Bible school. Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.75,0:03:32.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can learn, learn through discipleship\Nto preach the gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.00,0:03:35.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can learn through discipleship\Nto heal the sick, to cast out demons. Dialogue: 0,0:03:35.38,0:03:38.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it doesn't have to happen \Nin a platform in a church. Dialogue: 0,0:03:38.02,0:03:41.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can happen in a living room,\Nit can happen all over. Dialogue: 0,0:03:41.39,0:03:44.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was in Paris a year ago.\NWe were standing outside the Eiffel Tower. Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.88,0:03:47.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And a girl came and we started \Nto preach the gospel Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.96,0:03:51.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a demon manifested. She fell down,\Nshe got set free from a demon, Dialogue: 0,0:03:51.40,0:03:55.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,outside the Eiffel Tower, with a group\Nof 300-400 people who came Dialogue: 0,0:03:55.13,0:03:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and were standing around... Dialogue: 0,0:03:56.34,0:03:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're just standing outside the Eiffel Tower\Npublic? Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.88,0:04:02.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Public. When we saw the deliverance\Npublic there, Dialogue: 0,0:04:02.89,0:04:06.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was like...\NBut at the same time, Dialogue: 0,0:04:06.88,0:04:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you just take the Bible, it happened\Nout there, it happened among the people. Dialogue: 0,0:04:12.58,0:04:15.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They never took it inside the room\Nand said: Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.55,0:04:19.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now deliverance has to be ten hours\Nof counseling, in a room. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.45,0:04:23.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, we counsel when it needs counseling,\Nbut when we need to cast out demons - Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.54,0:04:29.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we cast out demons. I think that \Nhave been lost. And it's happening now. Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.07,0:04:35.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, tell me this, Torben.\NYou are facing some persecution in Denmark. Dialogue: 0,0:04:35.82,0:04:38.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tell us what's been happening? Dialogue: 0,0:04:39.71,0:04:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I love Jesus and we have looked a lot \Nabout the discipleship Dialogue: 0,0:04:43.66,0:04:46.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Jesus have sent us to go out,\Npreach the gospel, heal the sick, Dialogue: 0,0:04:46.47,0:04:48.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,cast out demons, all of that.\N- Right.\N Dialogue: 0,0:04:48.38,0:04:50.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Together with that comes the persecution.\N Dialogue: 0,0:04:51.58,0:04:54.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jesus said: They will whip you in \Ntheir synagogues. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.38,0:04:58.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is the religious people who are \Npersecuting us. We have done that. Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.45,0:05:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The next thing He said is that they will \Nput us in front of counselors in court cases. Dialogue: 0,0:05:02.49,0:05:07.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We haven't experienced that, but\Nit's been crazy in Denmark, so... Dialogue: 0,0:05:07.36,0:05:11.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the beginning of January\Nwe experienced a massive persecution. Dialogue: 0,0:05:11.62,0:05:16.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it, actually, ended up that we are\Nseeking asylum in America now. Dialogue: 0,0:05:17.49,0:05:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The 24th of January me and my family\Npacked eight suitcases Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.67,0:05:26.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we left Denmark. They have now\Nput a law in Denmark. Dialogue: 0,0:05:26.32,0:05:28.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They talked about me in the Danish \Ngovernment. Dialogue: 0,0:05:28.36,0:05:31.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They've put a law. By law it's illegal \Nto cast out demons in front of kids. Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.46,0:05:35.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Unbelievable! Oh wow!\NIn front of kids? Dialogue: 0,0:05:35.95,0:05:39.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, in front of kids or handicap. \NJust in front of and do it, Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.20,0:05:42.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plus, they adopted the mental violence law...\N Dialogue: 0,0:05:42.25,0:05:44.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's just so crazy because... Dialogue: 0,0:05:44.56,0:05:47.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's what Jesus said to do?\NIt's in the Bible. Dialogue: 0,0:05:47.73,0:05:49.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, it is. And then they have\Nthe mental violence law, Dialogue: 0,0:05:49.70,0:05:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and how do you define the mental violence.\NPhysical violence you know Dialogue: 0,0:05:52.98,0:05:56.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you hit somebody. Mental violence,\Nthey are actually saying in the Danish law Dialogue: 0,0:05:56.13,0:06:01.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that if you ground kids on a longer period\Nthat could be mental violence. Dialogue: 0,0:06:01.08,0:06:02.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Wow! Dialogue: 0,0:06:02.00,0:06:04.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you have kids who think they are\Nhomosexual and you, as parents, go... Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.86,0:06:08.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That could be mental violence.\NBut the only thing they put in the law Dialogue: 0,0:06:08.64,0:06:11.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to define it - it was casting demons out.\N- Wow! Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.80,0:06:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- But does it look you'll be able to come here?\N- It's amazing! Dialogue: 0,0:06:14.65,0:06:16.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,- We don't know yet.\N- We're gonna pray for him. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.60,0:06:22.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would say, I'm smiling, I'm excited\Nabout what God is doing, Dialogue: 0,0:06:22.67,0:06:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the last half of the year have been\Nthe most crazy experience, like... Dialogue: 0,0:06:25.94,0:06:29.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've always been proud of being Danish,\Nhave a Danish passport. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.13,0:06:30.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We've traveled to 30 countries... Dialogue: 0,0:06:30.85,0:06:32.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sure. You don't wanna leave your country. Dialogue: 0,0:06:32.42,0:06:34.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. And I never imagined that \Nthis could happen. Dialogue: 0,0:06:34.45,0:06:39.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I think also, my message to America\Nis that, if you never imagined it could happen, Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.59,0:06:43.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if nothing is changing now, \Nwhat I've experienced in Denmark, Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.69,0:06:46.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with changing of laws and leaving\Nthe country, and persecution, Dialogue: 0,0:06:46.97,0:06:49.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's also going to happen in America,\Nif nothing is changing. Dialogue: 0,0:06:49.56,0:06:51.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I wish we have more time, \Nbut we will be praying Dialogue: 0,0:06:51.95,0:06:53.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and our viewers will be praying for you\Nas well. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.72,0:06:56.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Definitely praying for Torben.\NThat's right. Thanks so much...