To solve old problems, study new species
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0:01 - 0:02For the past few years,
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0:02 - 0:06I've been spending my summers
in the marine biological laboratory -
0:06 - 0:08in Woods Hole, Massachusetts.
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0:09 - 0:13And there, what I've been doing
is essentially renting a boat. -
0:13 - 0:16What I would like to do is ask you
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0:16 - 0:18to come on a boat ride with me tonight.
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0:20 - 0:25So, we ride off from Eel Pond
into Vineyard Sound, -
0:25 - 0:27right off the coast of Martha's Vineyard,
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0:27 - 0:31equipped with a drone
to identify potential spots -
0:31 - 0:33from which to peer into the Atlantic.
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0:33 - 0:36Earlier, I was going to say
into the depths of the Atlantic, -
0:36 - 0:40but we don't have to go too deep
to reach the unknown. -
0:40 - 0:43Here, barely two miles away
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0:43 - 0:47from what is arguably the greatest
marine biology lab in the world, -
0:47 - 0:51we lower a simple
plankton net into the water -
0:51 - 0:53and bring up to the surface
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0:53 - 0:56things that humanity rarely
pays any attention to, -
0:56 - 0:59and oftentimes has never seen before.
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0:59 - 1:02Here's one of the organisms
that we caught in our net. -
1:02 - 1:03This is a jellyfish.
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1:04 - 1:05But look closely,
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1:05 - 1:08and living inside of this animal
is another organism -
1:08 - 1:11that is very likely
entirely new to science. -
1:11 - 1:13A complete new species.
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1:13 - 1:16Or how about this other transparent beauty
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1:16 - 1:17with a beating heart,
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1:17 - 1:21asexually growing on top of its head,
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1:21 - 1:24progeny that will move on
to reproduce sexually. -
1:25 - 1:26Let me say that again:
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1:26 - 1:30this animal is growing asexually
on top of its head, -
1:30 - 1:34progeny that is going to reproduce
sexually in the next generation. -
1:35 - 1:36A weird jellyfish?
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1:37 - 1:38Not quite.
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1:38 - 1:39This is an ascidian.
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1:40 - 1:41This is a group of animals
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1:41 - 1:45that now we know we share
extensive genomic ancestry with, -
1:45 - 1:50and it is perhaps the closest
invertebrate species to our own. -
1:50 - 1:52Meet your cousin,
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1:52 - 1:53Thalia democratica.
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1:53 - 1:55(Laughter)
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1:55 - 1:59I'm pretty sure you didn't save a spot
at your last family reunion -
1:59 - 2:01for Thalia,
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2:01 - 2:02but let me tell you,
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2:02 - 2:06these animals are profoundly related to us
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2:06 - 2:09in ways that we're just
beginning to understand. -
2:10 - 2:14So, next time you hear anybody
derisively telling you -
2:14 - 2:18that this type of research
is a simple fishing expedition, -
2:18 - 2:21I hope that you'll remember
the trip that we just took. -
2:22 - 2:26Today, many of the biological
sciences only see value -
2:26 - 2:28in studying deeper what we already know --
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2:28 - 2:31in mapping already-discovered continents.
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2:31 - 2:34But some of us are much more
interested in the unknown. -
2:35 - 2:39We want to discover
completely new continents, -
2:39 - 2:42and gaze at magnificent
vistas of ignorance. -
2:43 - 2:47We crave the experience
of being completely baffled -
2:47 - 2:49by something we've never seen before.
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2:49 - 2:50And yes, I agree
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2:50 - 2:54there's a lot of little ego satisfaction
in being able to say, -
2:54 - 2:57"Hey, I was the first one
to discover that." -
2:57 - 3:00But this is not
a self-aggrandizing enterprise, -
3:00 - 3:03because in this type
of discovery research, -
3:03 - 3:06if you don't feel like a complete
idiot most of the time, -
3:06 - 3:09you're just not sciencing hard enough.
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3:09 - 3:11(Laughter)
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3:12 - 3:18So every summer I bring onto the deck
of this little boat of ours -
3:18 - 3:21more and more things
that we know very little about. -
3:23 - 3:26I would like tonight
to tell you a story about life -
3:26 - 3:30that rarely gets told
in an environment like this. -
3:31 - 3:36From the vantage point of our 21st-century
biological laboratories, -
3:36 - 3:40we have begun to illuminate
many mysteries of life with knowledge. -
3:41 - 3:45We sense that after centuries
of scientific research, -
3:45 - 3:47we're beginning to make
significant inroads -
3:47 - 3:51into understanding some of the most
fundamental principles of life. -
3:51 - 3:56Our collective optimism is reflected
by the growth of biotechnology -
3:56 - 3:58across the globe,
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3:58 - 4:03striving to utilize scientific knowledge
to cure human diseases. -
4:04 - 4:09Things like cancer, aging,
degenerative diseases; -
4:09 - 4:13these are but some
of the undesirables we wish to tame. -
4:14 - 4:15I often wonder:
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4:15 - 4:18Why is it that we are having
so much trouble -
4:18 - 4:21trying to solve the problem of cancer?
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4:21 - 4:24Is it that we're trying to solve
the problem of cancer, -
4:24 - 4:27and not trying to understand life?
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4:28 - 4:31Life on this planet
shares a common origin, -
4:31 - 4:36and I can summarize 3.5 billion years
of the history of life on this planet -
4:36 - 4:37in a single slide.
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4:37 - 4:41What you see here are representatives
of all known species in our planet. -
4:41 - 4:45In this immensity of life
and biodiversity, -
4:45 - 4:48we occupy a rather unremarkable position.
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4:48 - 4:49(Laughter)
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4:49 - 4:50Homo sapiens.
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4:51 - 4:53The last of our kind.
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4:54 - 4:57And though I don't really want
to disparage at all -
4:57 - 4:59the accomplishments of our species,
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4:59 - 5:04as much as we wish it to be so
and often pretend that it is, -
5:04 - 5:07we are not the measure of all things.
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5:07 - 5:11We are, however, the measurers
of many things. -
5:11 - 5:15We relentlessly quantify,
analyze and compare, -
5:15 - 5:19and some of this is absolutely invaluable
and indeed necessary. -
5:20 - 5:26But this emphasis today on forcing
biological research to specialize -
5:26 - 5:29and to produce practical outcomes
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5:29 - 5:32is actually restricting our ability
to interrogate life -
5:32 - 5:36to unacceptably narrow confines
and unsatisfying depths. -
5:37 - 5:42We are measuring an astonishingly
narrow sliver of life, -
5:42 - 5:46and hoping that those numbers
will save all of our lives. -
5:46 - 5:48How narrow do you ask?
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5:48 - 5:49Well, let me give you a number.
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5:49 - 5:54The National Oceanic and Atmospheric
Administration recently estimated -
5:54 - 5:58that about 95 percent of our oceans
remain unexplored. -
5:59 - 6:00Now let that sink in for a second.
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6:01 - 6:0595 percent of our oceans
remain unexplored. -
6:06 - 6:08I think it's very safe to say
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6:08 - 6:13that we don't even know
how much about life we do not know. -
6:14 - 6:17So, it's not surprising
that every week in my field -
6:17 - 6:20we begin to see the addition
of more and more new species -
6:20 - 6:22to this amazing tree of life.
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6:22 - 6:24This one for example --
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6:24 - 6:26discovered earlier this summer,
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6:26 - 6:27new to science,
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6:27 - 6:30and now occupying its lonely branch
in our family tree. -
6:31 - 6:32What is even more tragic
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6:32 - 6:36is that we know about a bunch
of other species of animals out there, -
6:36 - 6:39but their biology remains
sorely under-studied. -
6:39 - 6:42I'm sure some of you
have heard about the fact -
6:42 - 6:46that a starfish can actually
regenerate its arm after it's lost. -
6:46 - 6:47But some of you might not know
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6:47 - 6:52that the arm itself can actually
regenerate a complete starfish. -
6:53 - 6:57And there are animals out there
that do truly astounding things. -
6:57 - 6:59I'm almost willing to bet
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6:59 - 7:04that many of you have never heard
of the flatworm, Schmidtea mediterranea. -
7:04 - 7:07This little guy right here
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7:07 - 7:10does things that essentially
just blow my mind. -
7:10 - 7:14You can grab one of these animals
and cut it into 18 different fragments, -
7:14 - 7:18and each and every one of those fragments
will go on to regenerate -
7:18 - 7:19a complete animal
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7:19 - 7:21in under two weeks.
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7:22 - 7:2618 heads, 18 bodies, 18 mysteries.
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7:26 - 7:29For the past decade and a half or so,
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7:29 - 7:32I've been trying to figure out
how these little dudes do what they do, -
7:33 - 7:35and how they pull this magic trick off.
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7:35 - 7:36But like all good magicians,
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7:36 - 7:39they're not really releasing
their secrets readily to me. -
7:39 - 7:41(Laughter)
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7:41 - 7:42So here we are,
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7:42 - 7:46after 20 years of essentially
studying these animals, -
7:46 - 7:49genome mapping, chin scratching,
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7:49 - 7:52and thousands of amputations
and thousands of regenerations, -
7:52 - 7:56we still don't fully understand
how these animals do what they do. -
7:56 - 8:00Each planarian an ocean unto itself,
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8:00 - 8:01full of unknowns.
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8:02 - 8:04One of the common characteristics
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8:04 - 8:07of all of these animals
I've been talking to you about -
8:07 - 8:10is that they did not appear
to have received the memo -
8:10 - 8:12that they need to behave
according to the rules -
8:12 - 8:16that we have derived from a handful
of randomly selected animals -
8:16 - 8:19that currently populate the vast majority
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8:19 - 8:22of biomedical laboratories
across the world. -
8:22 - 8:24Meet our Nobel Prize winners.
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8:24 - 8:26Seven species, essentially,
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8:26 - 8:30that have produced for us the brunt
of our understanding -
8:30 - 8:32of biological behavior today.
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8:33 - 8:35This little guy right here --
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8:35 - 8:37three Nobel Prizes in 12 years.
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8:38 - 8:41And yet, after all the attention
they have garnered, -
8:41 - 8:43and all the knowledge they have generated,
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8:43 - 8:45as well as the lion's share
of the funding, -
8:45 - 8:49here we are standing [before] the same
litany of intractable problems -
8:49 - 8:51and many new challenges.
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8:51 - 8:53And that's because, unfortunately,
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8:53 - 8:56these seven animals essentially correspond
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8:56 - 9:02to 0.0009 percent of all of the species
that inhabit the planet. -
9:04 - 9:06So I'm beginning to suspect
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9:06 - 9:11that our specialization is beginning
to impede our progress at best, -
9:11 - 9:14and at worst, is leading us astray.
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9:14 - 9:17That's because life
on this planet and its history -
9:17 - 9:19is the history of rule breakers.
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9:19 - 9:23Life started on the face of this planet
as single-cell organisms, -
9:23 - 9:25swimming for millions
of years in the ocean, -
9:25 - 9:27until one of those creatures decided,
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9:27 - 9:30"I'm going to do things differently today;
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9:30 - 9:33today I would like to invent
something called multicellularity, -
9:33 - 9:34and I'm going to do this."
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9:34 - 9:37And I'm sure it wasn't a popular
decision at the time -- -
9:37 - 9:38(Laughter)
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9:38 - 9:39but somehow, it managed to do it.
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9:39 - 9:42And then, multicellular
organisms began to populate -
9:42 - 9:43all these ancestral oceans,
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9:43 - 9:44and they thrived.
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9:44 - 9:46And we have them here today.
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9:47 - 9:50Land masses began to emerge
from the surface of the oceans, -
9:50 - 9:51and another creature thought,
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9:51 - 9:54"Hey, that looks like a really nice
piece of real estate. -
9:54 - 9:55I'd like to move there."
-
9:55 - 9:57"Are you crazy?
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9:57 - 10:00You're going to desiccate out there.
Nothing can live out of water." -
10:00 - 10:01But life found a way,
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10:01 - 10:03and there are organisms
now that live on land. -
10:03 - 10:06Once on land, they may have
looked up into the sky -
10:06 - 10:08and said, "It would be nice
to go to the clouds, -
10:08 - 10:09I'm going to fly."
-
10:09 - 10:12"You can't break the law of gravity,
there's no way you can fly." -
10:12 - 10:15And yet, nature has invented --
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10:15 - 10:17multiple and independent times --
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10:17 - 10:18ways to fly.
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10:18 - 10:21I love to study these animals
that break the rules, -
10:21 - 10:25because every time they break a rule,
they invent something new -
10:25 - 10:28that made it possible for us
to be able to be here today. -
10:29 - 10:31These animals did not get the memo.
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10:31 - 10:33They break the rules.
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10:33 - 10:35So if we're going to study animals
that break the rules, -
10:35 - 10:38shouldn't how we study them
also break the rules? -
10:40 - 10:43I think we need to renew
our spirit of exploration. -
10:43 - 10:46Rather than bring nature
into our laboratories -
10:46 - 10:47and interrogate it there,
-
10:47 - 10:49we need to bring our science
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10:49 - 10:52into the majestic laboratory
that is nature, -
10:52 - 10:56and there, with our modern
technological armamentarium, -
10:56 - 10:59interrogate every new form
of life we find, -
10:59 - 11:02and any new biological attribute
that we may find. -
11:02 - 11:07We actually need to bring
all of our intelligence -
11:07 - 11:09to becoming stupid again --
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11:09 - 11:13clueless [before] the immensity
of the unknown. -
11:13 - 11:14Because after all,
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11:15 - 11:17science is not really about knowledge.
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11:17 - 11:19Science is about ignorance.
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11:19 - 11:21That's what we do.
-
11:21 - 11:24Once, Antoine de Saint-Exupéry wrote,
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11:24 - 11:26"If you want to build a ship,
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11:26 - 11:28don't drum up people to collect wood
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11:28 - 11:30and don't assign them tasks and work,
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11:30 - 11:34but rather teach them to long
for the endless immensity of the sea ..." -
11:35 - 11:36As a scientist and a teacher,
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11:36 - 11:38I like to paraphrase this to read
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11:38 - 11:42that we scientists need
to teach our students -
11:42 - 11:44to long for the endless
immensity of the sea -
11:44 - 11:45that is our ignorance.
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11:47 - 11:51We Homo sapiens are the only
species we know of -
11:51 - 11:53that is driven to scientific inquiry.
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11:54 - 11:56We, like all other species on this planet,
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11:56 - 12:00are inextricably woven
into the history of life on this planet. -
12:01 - 12:04And I think I'm a little wrong
when I say that life is a mystery, -
12:04 - 12:07because I think that life
is actually an open secret -
12:07 - 12:11that has been beckoning our species
for millennia to understand it. -
12:11 - 12:13So I ask you:
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12:13 - 12:17Aren't we the best chance
that life has to know itself? -
12:17 - 12:18And if so,
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12:18 - 12:20what the heck are we waiting for?
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12:20 - 12:22Thank you.
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12:22 - 12:25(Applause)
- Title:
- To solve old problems, study new species
- Speaker:
- Alejandro Sánchez Alvarado
- Description:
-
Nature is wonderfully abundant, diverse and mysterious — but biological research today tends to focus on only seven species, including rats, chickens, fruit flies and us. We're studying an astonishingly narrow sliver of life, says biologist Alejandro Sánchez Alvarado, and hoping it'll be enough to solve the oldest, most challenging problems in science, like cancer. In this visually captivating talk, Alvarado calls on us to interrogate the unknown and shows us the remarkable discoveries that surface when we do.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 12:39
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