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Gloria Spindle – Peng! Collective: Intelexit

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    Angel: Now I am very happy to have you all here
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    for the next talk on a really important topic.
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    And we all called last year for
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    more creative campaigns on all our issues,
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    that we talk about here at congress.
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    And so the Peng! Collective thought about a
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    really creative campaign that also got
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    a lot of attention in the last year.
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    And because they call for all
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    the intelligence officers to really exit
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    their careers and to find some other
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    more valuable service to our society,
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    I'm very honoured to introduce
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    Gloria Spindle to you,
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    who is a former Google nest employee,
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    —You might remember that great campaign—
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    and will now present the "Intelexit" to you.
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    Thank you! Your Applause!
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    applause
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    silence on the audio stream
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    Gloria: Hello!
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    And hello to all the live streaming people
    out there as well.
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    Blubb blubb we can see you!
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    I hear they're a lot, maybe more than
    what's in this room.
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    All the lights are dimming.
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    Okay, so! I don't know if anyone else
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    is as interested in the parts
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    of the Snowdon documents as I am,
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    which are the kind of little cultural titbits
    that you find that give you a sense of
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    what it's like to be within the Secret Service.
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    I'm really kind of fascinated
    by this particular gentleman.
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    The SIGINT Philosopher, who was a columnist
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    for the NSA on the internal news letter
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    and he is really quite creative
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    and he writes a lot of pieces
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    about the ethical quandaries of working
    in the Secret Services.
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    And most of them end with just like:
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    "You should just like keep your head down
    and you should just keep doing
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    what you're supposed to be doing,
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    'cause that's the best way to go ahead
    and protect your county."
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    So this quote is really the kind of crux
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    of what the “Intelexit” Initiative
    is founded on.
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    We recognise that people who are working
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    in the Secret Services, and I'm sure
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    some of you in the audience tonight
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    are working in the Secret Services
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    — pretty certain there are some disgruntled, maybe unhappy,
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    maybe ethically confused people
    working in spy agencies,
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    maybe you're just a contractor
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    and you feel like: Oh I'm not so involved,
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    but I still feel like
    I have blood on my hands.
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    And those are the people
    that “Intelexit” is talking to.
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    very mild applause
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    That was like have a clap.
    I mean come on, people!
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    applause
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    Thank you! Thank you! Jesus!
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    Don't be afraid of clapping!
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    So those are the people that “Intelexit”
    is really talking to.
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    And we wanted to reach out to those people,
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    because there hasn't been a campaign yet
    that has actually recognised,
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    that they are humans working,
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    thousands and thousands of people
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    going every day to their surveillance jobs,
    operating drones
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    and even the people who are just
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    answering emails or you know pushing paper,
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    running the photocopy machine,
    if they even have those.
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    — Who knows what they have in there —
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    Those People,
    they are people who obviously
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    have ethical issues about working
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    in these systems
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    and feel responsible
    for mass surveillance,
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    drone warfare and the slow, maybe fast,
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    degradation of democracy as we know it.
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    So, introducing “Intelexit”!
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    applause
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    So what Intelexit does is
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    it's an initiative, a civil initiative
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    grounded in the idea that we
    need to find a way
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    to support people who want to leave
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    their jobs at the Secret Services
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    and we need to normalise
    the idea of quitting.
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    applause
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    Because actually it's a very just and
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    sometimes honourable thing to do,
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    just to follow your ethics and
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    give up your job,
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    if you don't feel like you're contributing
    to society in a good way.
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    applause
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    So that’s why Intelexit pitch.
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    Some of you might know:
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    I'm from Peng! as it was introduced earlier
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    and we are known for our hoaxes
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    and our media hacks and our culture jamming.
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    So intelexit is been a really, really
    interesting campaign for us
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    and I’ll explain it as I go.
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    Because of course you see it's a bit of
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    performance and it's a bit of humour
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    but it's also very serious at the same time.
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    So, just to introduce Peng! to you,
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    for those who don't know.
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    Here we were... this was at re:publica
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    impersonating Google managers and
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    presenting some really creepy,
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    data collecting products.
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    A personal drone for daily life,
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    an app that monitors your well-being,
    emotional well being,
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    and matches you with other people
    who also need a hug
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    and creepy thing about that is most
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    of this distopian visions have now actually
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    come to light and are existing
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    in the real world today.
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    Actually people do use drones
    to follow their children to school.
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    That's a real thing.
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    So and here we are impersonating the
    leading party of Germany
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    and here we are in live television,
    cracking an egg over the head of a presenter
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    of a very dodgy television program
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    and this was our program to self....
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    provide self help for trolls,
    sexist trolls on twitter
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    and that was our self help coach.
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    We had a bot army which was analyse...
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    we had a language analysis
    happening on twitter
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    and then we had an army of 160 bots
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    which were going out and enrolling trolls
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    on twitter into our self help program
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    and sending them nice inspirational videos
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    every day to help cure them.
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    applause
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    So as you can see we have a...
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    we utilise a range
    of tactics and techniques
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    in what we call campaigning.
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    Some people call it art,
    some people call it theatre,
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    some people call it a joke,
    some call it entertainment,
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    but we see it as campaigning
    and what we are constantly trying to do
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    is to shift the narrative.
    We look at...
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    shift the narrative around
    various social justice issues.
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    We look at issues we think that really need
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    a kind of different spin
    happening in the media
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    and we take them and find a way to
    reframe them and then we push them out
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    and hope that we get a lot of attention.
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    So we started looking at the issue of
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    surveillance and the Secret Services.
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    And, well, quickly one runs into the obstacle
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    of how do you talk about this.
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    Like we have this clichés of, you know,
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    the eye and, you know, Edward Snowden’s face
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    and we have these visuals that kind of
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    don't really mean anything anymore
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    and everyone really struggles
    to actually understand
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    what the issue means and how do we talk about
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    the Secret Services,
    when they're completely inaccessible to us?
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    So this a photo, for example, of the regulations
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    for taking photographs at Fort Meade.
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    You see, you’re not really allowed
    to take photographs of the buildings.
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    So if you start with that as a kind of metaphor
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    for the inaccessibility of the Secret Services
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    to our general culture.
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    We don't even have visuals for them.
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    We've got like one photo of the NSA
    that floats around the internet
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    and just gets repurposed and repurposed.
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    We can't access these people,
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    we can't access their structures,
    we can't access their information.
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    Yes we have leaks now,
    but how do we actually open it up more?
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    And that was the question,
    we kept asking ourselves.
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    You've got this issue of intangibility
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    and then you also got the issue that
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    everything is so secret.
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    I mean even if a Christmas card
    is sent internally in the NSA,
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    it's classified as top secret.
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    Then you've got technology which is so complicated
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    the general public can't understand it
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    and it's like all these acronyms and these
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    weird flow charts and bad design
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    and it's just really complicated.
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    And then of course there is fear.
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    And Fear is really crippling for activists
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    like ourselves, for civil society.
    It is really difficult.
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    We don't want to broach this issue.
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    We don't want to step into it,
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    because it's scary,
    because once you step into it,
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    it means that you are
    a target, of course.
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    And also, funny enough, fear is also the way
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    the narrative is often shaped.
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    This is what we use,
    to try and raise awareness
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    about surveillance.
    We make people afraid.
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    We, you know, we talk about this invincible,
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    dark danger of surveillance
    creeping in on us.
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    No one knows,
    if they’re being watched or not.
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    And this, we think, is a narrative
    that really needs to be shifted.
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    So we wanted to find a way to bring hope,
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    to bring a positive image to this narrative
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    and also to bring it down to humans
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    like not to talk about technology,
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    not to talk about these
    dark and complex systems
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    but to talk about the people
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    and talk to the people who are upholding
    these structures.
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    So this is what we came up with:
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    off-voice from video:
    Right now, thousands of people work
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    in the shadows
    of the intelligence community.
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    They don't ask questions.
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    They follow orders.
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    Keep their heads down,
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    do their work.
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    But what happens,
    when you see something you can't forget?
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    And you realise that the system you are
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    part of is chipping away our democracy
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    every hour, every day.
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    You feel stuck,
    overwhelmed.
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    Some people have already made
    the decision to leave.
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    Others are thinking about it every day.
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    Intelexit helps people break free
    from the intelligence community
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    and build a new life.
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    You expose yourself within the system,
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    you ultimately end up
    being forced out of the system.
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    I remember confronting my immediate supervisor
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    the number 3 person: What are we doing?
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    We are violating the constitution!
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    – Many Secret Service employees are disillusioned.
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    – Why are we taking equipment
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    —it is traditionally for foreign facing,
    outward facing—
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    and we're now instrumenting our networks
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    within the United States of America?
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    - If you're surveilling the population,
    you're all on the same side.
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    Right? You want all the data and you want to
    talk to people who have the most data.
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    So the NSA is a
    nexus of surveillance for the world.
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    – It's what ever you can get away with.
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    That was part of the "game".
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    And whatever would serve
    as the interest of "national security".
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    – When one is forced to act against one's
    moral values, they can experience
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    extreme levels of
    what we call cognitive dissonance.
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    – I was radioactive because
    I'm questioning what are we doing.
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    Where do you then go?
    Where does your life then …
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    Where do you recreate your life?
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    – What Intelexit does is help individuals
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    transition from the world on the inside
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    to the world on the outside.
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    – The more you can move
    from the inside to the outside,
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    the better you'll integrate
    into the real world.
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    – What is really great about Intelexit is
    that it helps people to confront their fears.
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    – So take it from me:
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    If you're looking to get out,
    try Intelexit!
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    – Be smart. Exit intelligence now.
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    roaring applause
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    I was really impressed
    with Bruce Schneier there.
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    Bruce Schneier is just amazing without end.
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    I mean, who knew he had those talents?
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    Someone take him to acting school.
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    Like, it's amazing!
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    Okay, so then we made the video,
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    but of course we knew, we know
    that the people that we are talking to
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    the spies, are some of the
    most introverted people in the world.
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    And probably some of them the people
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    most stuck in a filter bubble in the world.
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    So we knew we had to kind of
    take our preach further
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    and we had to go to where they are.
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    So you know we thought big and we pretended
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    we just forgot about that we didn't really
    have a budget.
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    And so we just hired a van.
    Because that's what you do.
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    So we just hired this van and drove around
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    Fort Meade and the NSA buildings,
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    tried as much as we could to get
    as close as possible to them as we could.
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    applause
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    So this is outside Lockheed Martin
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    on a national business parkway.
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    The main area of all the NSA contractors
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    and they are really best friend with the NSA
    and now they started making drones as well.
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    They’ve been supplying technology
    to the military and the CIA and NSA forever.
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    So that’s us parked outside there,
    giving them a strong moral punch
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    with the slogan.
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    And then we went to one of the most popular
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    cafes where NSA officers and contractors
    like to go for lunch.
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    This Café JOE.
    And we parked out there
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    during lunch time as well.
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    applause
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    And then of course, because you can't talk
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    about the Secret Services in one country
    without talking about the other ones,
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    'cause they are all in bed with each other,
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    we of course had to go to the UK as well.
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    So here we are outside the "Donut" and
    this is us trying …
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    okay, to be honest
    laughing
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    that's trying to hand out flyer, brochures
    to the people.
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    Like that was our plan.
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    We were gonna hand them out
    to the employees on their way to work.
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    And they were just like imitates engine roar
    they had, like, been briefed..
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    or I don't know.
    They were just ignoring us.
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    And also maybe we didn't brief that guy
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    very well on what to dress
    as an Intelexit ambassador.
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    And then we hit all the …
    laughter in the audience
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    applause
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    This is outside the Dagger Complex in Germany.
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    One of the lesser known spots for the NSA
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    where they kind of have a central hub
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    for the signal's intelligence
    gathering in Europe,
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    it's been written about in the Spiegel.
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    Very secret, very difficult
    to get there as well.
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    And there we are, again,
    from the other side.
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    And that is the antenna
    from the Dagger Complex.
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    And then we also went to Wiesbaden,
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    which is the traditional
    home of the US military in Germany
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    And the Clay Kaserne Building!
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    This is where supposedly, forthcoming
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    is going to be
    one of the NSA’s biggest buildings
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    and operations in Europe,
    also all very secret.
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    No one knows what's going on.
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    And then we went to the
    US Embassy in Berlin.
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    And this for non German speakers just says:
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    "Enough with paranoia!"
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    This is why we had the like
    dadaistic pineapple on there.
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    "We’re helping you to
    get out of the Secret Services!"
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    And then we went to the
    German Secret Services as well.
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    This is there new office block,
    the Bundesnachrichtendienst
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    applause
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    and we also went
    to the old offices, just in case.
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    laughter and applause
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    And then we went to …
    —we did a lot in a week—
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    we went to the Verfassungsschutz which is
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    the domestic intelligence in Germany.
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    And this is located in Köln,
    to remind them about
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    —so the Verfassungsschutz actually
    stands for roughly translated in English is:
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    Protectors of the constitution—
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    and in order to remind them about
    the constitution
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    we stuck the constitution on their wall there.
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    applause
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    And then there they are ripping it up.
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    This was like a dream we had
    for a very long time
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    and finally we have realized it. laughing
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    And then we thought we take a bigger step...
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    music
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    laughter in the audience
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    music
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    applause in the audience
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    According to sources, Intelexit website
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    was blocked on the internal network
    after that dropped.
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    So that was our week and that was Intelexit.
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    And I just want to
    share a few learnings with you,
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    because it was a very
    interesting campaign for us
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    and one of a kind, really.
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    So I think the first thing
    on a very kind of
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    just basic level is that it is possible
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    to talk about this issue
    without creating fear,
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    without making everyone, you know,
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    really worried about their information
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    and the data and their general feeling
    of well-being.
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    There is a way of kind of shift the narrative
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    and look more at the outside and stop
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    holding the defensive.
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    Okay, then second thing is that
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    they are just as good in faking as we are.
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    This was the response from the GCHQ to a
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    journalist question for an article about
    Intelexit, which is amazing,
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    because they basically just said
    that they don’t do
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    anything unlawful and they actively encourage
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    staff to discuss any concerns that they have
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    inside, which we all know is not true.
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    And they also they really pride themselves
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    on the structures they have in place
    to support this.
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    So I think this was
    the biggest surprise for us.
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    Like we are always dealing in this kind of
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    projecting of either utopias or distopias
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    out into the world
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    and sometimes when you have a vision
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    and you project something out,
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    actually it kind of turns into reality.
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    And that's what happened.
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    You know, we played this line of
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    yes it's sort of a fake, but at the same time
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    we really mean what we’re putting out here.
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    Yes, we actually think there should be
    an Intelexit Foundation created.
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    And there should be loads of money
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    flowing in for people who want to get out.
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    And there should be a civil way to exit.
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    applause
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    But, you know, what can we do?
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    We're just like a small art collective
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    in Berlin. You know.
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    We can make a big wave, but we're
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    quite limited on our resources.
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    But actually we got responses,
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    we got people coming to us
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    and that was a real surprise
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    and we realised we have
    a lot of responsibility, too.
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    And so, this is the other learning that
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    there is no clear line
    between insanity and reality.
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    So you kind of constantly, when you get
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    people contacting you this like,
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    of course you get people who think that
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    they are pursued by the CIA
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    or think that they used to work at the secret
    service
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    and then there is people who talk to aliens
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    and these kinds of things
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    and then you get people with really legitimate
    stories
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    and there is a kind of constant balance
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    and we really had to learn how to
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    assess these.
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    And luckily we had amazing support from
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    investigative journalists, particularly from
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    whistle-blower platforms who have experience
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    with this and help us.
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    But that's just part of the game.
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    Okay, I think this is our other learning,
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    that we realised, that
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    at the end of this week,
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    there really is a need for this.
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    There is a need to respond to kind of
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    discourse that's out there
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    and create a new one
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    and then there is also really a need to
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    provide this kind of support and
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    actually reach out to people who are
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    trapped in these structures and want to get
    out.
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    So we've been working really hard and trying
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    to build up networks of support with people
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    who have legal skills,
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    who have psychological training
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    and who can also help, if people want to
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    get out and leak or blow the whistle,
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    who can help with that.
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    So we kind of at the moment when people come
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    we are trying to direct them to the right
    resources.
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    Because of cause we're not
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    a whistle blowing platform.
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    And we are not a legal organisation,
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    so we can't provide a lot of things,
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    but we have good networks and we can try
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    and connect people with them.
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    So what's coming next?
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    We are trying to build up our infrastructure
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    so that people can actually have a very secure
    way
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    to contact us.
  • 22:56 - 22:58
    We are building up this network of support
  • 22:58 - 23:02
    and we want to create a list of future
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    employers for people who actually do leave
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    the secret services so that they can find
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    places to get jobs afterwards.
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    And we want to continue doing more
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    outreach and more campaigning on this issue
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    and I think that that is our main goal.
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    applause
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    That's a safe within a safe,
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    which is now part of our kind of secure
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    infrastructure in our offices,
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    thanks to the support of very experienced
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    and knowledgeable expert people
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    who can help us set up the kind of
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    the best way for people to kind of
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    to enter the risk assessment to enter the
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    best means of communicating with us.
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    And then on our outreach plans
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    we really want to create a way to talk to
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    people who're working in the secret services
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    for an every day person in this audience
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    or on the stage just to call up the NSA
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    or the BND or the GCHQ and get through
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    to someone who is sitting in their office
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    on their phone and have a conversation
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    with them like callcenter-style.
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    You know like: How are you doing today?
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    Can we talk about your job?
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    How do you feel about working at the
  • 24:20 - 24:26
    secret services?
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    We want to create an anonymous reaching
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    system for someone to call completely
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    anonymously to a set of numbers
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    which we can't reveal the source of
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    and to reach out to these people.
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    So of course we need support and help.
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    And these are all the things you can help
    us with.
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    If you got skills, we need all kinds of skills,
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    we need skills to build up this call center
  • 25:01 - 25:03
    operation of ours, so that people can actually
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    anonymously call and we can have something
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    that is very exciting and we can premier at
  • 25:11 - 25:11
    events.
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    So that you can actually have
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    call center operations on stage calling up
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    doing it live.
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    And then we also need people who will
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    translate our materials.
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    We would like to get them into other
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    languages, we only have English and German
    atm.
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    And we would like to kind of reach out more
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    internationally.
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    And if you've got connections,
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    well that's also always good,
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    if you've got people who are lawyers,
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    who have experience working with people
  • 25:46 - 25:49
    who are either in trauma or
  • 25:49 - 25:51
    people who have been in the secret service
  • 25:51 - 25:54
    for example.
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    Legal skills, psychological skills,
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    journalists - we need all those kinds of
  • 25:58 - 25:59
    connections in different jurisdictions.
  • 25:59 - 26:03
    We are pretty well set up in Berlin and
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    in Germany, but we really need help
  • 26:06 - 26:09
    in the UK and the US as well for now.
  • 26:09 - 26:11
    And then if you've got ideas for outreach
  • 26:11 - 26:13
    for new actions we are also really open
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    to hearing those.
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    We've got the call center idea at the moment.
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    Calling up the spies.
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    We want new ideas and if you know people
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    who are working there just have that
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    conversation with them.
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    Just start a conversation about you know,
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    ethics of the workplace.
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    applause
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    And now... the big question...
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    And I even do that to say how important it
    is.
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    If you like Peng!'s work we are not ashamed
  • 26:48 - 26:49
    any more. We were ashamed for a long time
  • 26:49 - 26:50
    to ask for money,
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    but we're not ashamed any more.
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    We live of idealism alone, people,
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    and we need help to keep our actions going!
  • 26:57 - 26:59
    This year I think we did 6 actions or something
  • 26:59 - 27:04
    really large campaigns and we need help to
  • 27:04 - 27:07
    kind of support our infrastructure,
  • 27:07 - 27:09
    to support our staff,
  • 27:09 - 27:12
    to support our projects more than anything,
  • 27:12 - 27:17
    so that we can keep on doing what we are doing.
  • 27:17 - 27:19
    So we've developed a way for you to become
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    a monkey donator which I highly recommend
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    great feelings of positivity and love will
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    travel with you for many years after
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    you have done this.
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    Mother Theresa said:
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    If you can't feed a hundred penguins,
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    then just feed one."
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    So, feed one of us!
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    Even if it's just like the pinky finger of
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    one of us and sign up for a year to
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    keep seeing great action coming out
  • 27:51 - 27:54
    from Peng!
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    And that's me.
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    And we've got one more thing,
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    surprise!
    Where are you? Hello!
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    So we have one other way to donate,
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    which is that you can buy one of the
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    awesome Intelexit T-shirts,
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    which Paul is gonna come here and model
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    for us quickly.
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    laughing and applause
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    And there's a run for your life!
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    That's the kind of lame one...
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    but these ones are cool!
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    Thank you!
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    Are we meeting afterwards?
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    I think we're going to have...
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    We don't have time for questions
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    and answers now.
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    But we really want to get feedback
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    from people.
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    I think there is an IRC Chat or Radio happening,
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    but if people want to come we're going
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    to meet.
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    Where are we meeting?
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    In front!
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    laughing
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    Of this huge hall.
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    Can someone give me a location,
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    I only got here today...
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    Can you give us a location?
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    Herald: Okay, So it's sensible to meet
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    at the tea tent I suppose.
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    Gloria: Tea tent!
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    In 15 minutes!
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    Herald: In front of hall 2, there is a big
    tea tent,
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    where you get tea, where you also
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    meet many other people who are working
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    in this direction therefore, right?
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    Gloria: Yes!
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    Herald: And I have one question still,
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    because you told we can support on the Internet
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    is there also a way to donate anonymously?
  • 29:18 - 29:21
    Gloria: Well, you can donate with bitcoin
  • 29:21 - 29:23
    or you can just give us cash.
  • 29:23 - 29:25
    Herald: Everybody, big piles of cash,
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    bring them here!
  • 29:28 - 29:32
    Gloria: Not saying no to cash...
  • 29:32 - 29:34
    Herald: Thank you, Gloria!
  • 29:34 - 29:35
    Gloria: Ah, they got a bag!
  • 29:35 - 29:38
    Herald: And there is a bag for cash!
  • 29:38 - 29:39
    laughing
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    Gloria: You can put it in very anonymously
    here.
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    laughing
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    Herald: Bring your blocking for your face
  • 29:50 - 29:52
    if you really want to be anonymous.
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    Thank you, Gloria!
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    Everybody who wants to come,
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    please go to the tea tent!
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Gloria Spindle – Peng! Collective: Intelexit
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