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Angel: Now I am very happy to have you all here
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for the next talk on a really important topic.
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And we all called last year for
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more creative campaigns on all our issues,
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that we talk about here at congress.
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And so the Peng! Collective thought about a
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really creative campaign that also got
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a lot of attention in the last year.
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And because they call for all
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the intelligence officers to really exit
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their careers and to find some other
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more valuable service to our society,
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I'm very honoured to introduce
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Gloria Spindle to you,
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who is a former Google nest employee,
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—You might remember that great campaign—
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and will now present the "Intelexit" to you.
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Thank you! Your Applause!
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applause
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silence on the audio stream
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Gloria: Hello!
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And hello to all the live streaming people
out there as well.
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Blubb blubb we can see you!
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I hear they're a lot, maybe more than
what's in this room.
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All the lights are dimming.
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Okay, so! I don't know if anyone else
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is as interested in the parts
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of the Snowdon documents as I am,
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which are the kind of little cultural titbits
that you find that give you a sense of
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what it's like to be within the Secret Service.
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I'm really kind of fascinated
by this particular gentleman.
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The SIGINT Philosopher, who was a columnist
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for the NSA on the internal news letter
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and he is really quite creative
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and he writes a lot of pieces
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about the ethical quandaries of working
in the Secret Services.
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And most of them end with just like:
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"You should just like keep your head down
and you should just keep doing
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what you're supposed to be doing,
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'cause that's the best way to go ahead
and protect your county."
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So this quote is really the kind of crux
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of what the “Intelexit” Initiative
is founded on.
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We recognise that people who are working
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in the Secret Services, and I'm sure
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some of you in the audience tonight
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are working in the Secret Services
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— pretty certain there are some disgruntled, maybe unhappy,
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maybe ethically confused people
working in spy agencies,
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maybe you're just a contractor
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and you feel like: Oh I'm not so involved,
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but I still feel like
I have blood on my hands.
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And those are the people
that “Intelexit” is talking to.
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very mild applause
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That was like have a clap.
I mean come on, people!
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applause
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Thank you! Thank you! Jesus!
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Don't be afraid of clapping!
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So those are the people that “Intelexit”
is really talking to.
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And we wanted to reach out to those people,
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because there hasn't been a campaign yet
that has actually recognised,
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that they are humans working,
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thousands and thousands of people
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going every day to their surveillance jobs,
operating drones
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and even the people who are just
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answering emails or you know pushing paper,
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running the photocopy machine,
if they even have those.
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— Who knows what they have in there —
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Those People,
they are people who obviously
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have ethical issues about working
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in these systems
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and feel responsible
for mass surveillance,
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drone warfare and the slow, maybe fast,
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degradation of democracy as we know it.
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So, introducing “Intelexit”!
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applause
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So what Intelexit does is
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it's an initiative, a civil initiative
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grounded in the idea that we
need to find a way
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to support people who want to leave
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their jobs at the Secret Services
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and we need to normalise
the idea of quitting.
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applause
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Because actually it's a very just and
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sometimes honourable thing to do,
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just to follow your ethics and
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give up your job,
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if you don't feel like you're contributing
to society in a good way.
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applause
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So that’s why Intelexit pitch.
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Some of you might know:
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I'm from Peng! as it was introduced earlier
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and we are known for our hoaxes
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and our media hacks and our culture jamming.
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So intelexit is been a really, really
interesting campaign for us
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and I’ll explain it as I go.
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Because of course you see it's a bit of
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performance and it's a bit of humour
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but it's also very serious at the same time.
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So, just to introduce Peng! to you,
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for those who don't know.
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Here we were... this was at re:publica
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impersonating Google managers and
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presenting some really creepy,
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data collecting products.
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A personal drone for daily life,
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an app that monitors your well-being,
emotional well being,
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and matches you with other people
who also need a hug
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and creepy thing about that is most
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of this distopian visions have now actually
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come to light and are existing
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in the real world today.
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Actually people do use drones
to follow their children to school.
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That's a real thing.
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So and here we are impersonating the
leading party of Germany
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and here we are in live television,
cracking an egg over the head of a presenter
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of a very dodgy television program
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and this was our program to self....
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provide self help for trolls,
sexist trolls on twitter
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and that was our self help coach.
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We had a bot army which was analyse...
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we had a language analysis
happening on twitter
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and then we had an army of 160 bots
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which were going out and enrolling trolls
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on twitter into our self help program
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and sending them nice inspirational videos
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every day to help cure them.
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applause
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So as you can see we have a...
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we utilise a range
of tactics and techniques
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in what we call campaigning.
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Some people call it art,
some people call it theatre,
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some people call it a joke,
some call it entertainment,
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but we see it as campaigning
and what we are constantly trying to do
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is to shift the narrative.
We look at...
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shift the narrative around
various social justice issues.
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We look at issues we think that really need
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a kind of different spin
happening in the media
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and we take them and find a way to
reframe them and then we push them out
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and hope that we get a lot of attention.
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So we started looking at the issue of
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surveillance and the Secret Services.
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And, well, quickly one runs into the obstacle
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of how do you talk about this.
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Like we have this clichés of, you know,
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the eye and, you know, Edward Snowden’s face
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and we have these visuals that kind of
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don't really mean anything anymore
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and everyone really struggles
to actually understand
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what the issue means and how do we talk about
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the Secret Services,
when they're completely inaccessible to us?
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So this a photo, for example, of the regulations
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for taking photographs at Fort Meade.
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You see, you’re not really allowed
to take photographs of the buildings.
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So if you start with that as a kind of metaphor
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for the inaccessibility of the Secret Services
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to our general culture.
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We don't even have visuals for them.
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We've got like one photo of the NSA
that floats around the internet
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and just gets repurposed and repurposed.
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We can't access these people,
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we can't access their structures,
we can't access their information.
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Yes we have leaks now,
but how do we actually open it up more?
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And that was the question,
we kept asking ourselves.
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You've got this issue of intangibility
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and then you also got the issue that
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everything is so secret.
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I mean even if a Christmas card
is sent internally in the NSA,
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it's classified as top secret.
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Then you've got technology which is so complicated
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the general public can't understand it
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and it's like all these acronyms and these
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weird flow charts and bad design
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and it's just really complicated.
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And then of course there is fear.
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And Fear is really crippling for activists
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like ourselves, for civil society.
It is really difficult.
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We don't want to broach this issue.
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We don't want to step into it,
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because it's scary,
because once you step into it,
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it means that you are
a target, of course.
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And also, funny enough, fear is also the way
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the narrative is often shaped.
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This is what we use,
to try and raise awareness
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about surveillance.
We make people afraid.
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We, you know, we talk about this invincible,
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dark danger of surveillance
creeping in on us.
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No one knows,
if they’re being watched or not.
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And this, we think, is a narrative
that really needs to be shifted.
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So we wanted to find a way to bring hope,
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to bring a positive image to this narrative
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and also to bring it down to humans
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like not to talk about technology,
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not to talk about these
dark and complex systems
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but to talk about the people
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and talk to the people who are upholding
these structures.
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So this is what we came up with:
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off-voice from video:
Right now, thousands of people work
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in the shadows
of the intelligence community.
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They don't ask questions.
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They follow orders.
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Keep their heads down,
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do their work.
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But what happens,
when you see something you can't forget?
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And you realise that the system you are
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part of is chipping away our democracy
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every hour, every day.
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You feel stuck,
overwhelmed.
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Some people have already made
the decision to leave.
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Others are thinking about it every day.
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Intelexit helps people break free
from the intelligence community
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and build a new life.
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You expose yourself within the system,
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you ultimately end up
being forced out of the system.
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I remember confronting my immediate supervisor
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the number 3 person: What are we doing?
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We are violating the constitution!
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– Many Secret Service employees are disillusioned.
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– Why are we taking equipment
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—it is traditionally for foreign facing,
outward facing—
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and we're now instrumenting our networks
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within the United States of America?
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- If you're surveilling the population,
you're all on the same side.
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Right? You want all the data and you want to
talk to people who have the most data.
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So the NSA is a
nexus of surveillance for the world.
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– It's what ever you can get away with.
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That was part of the "game".
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And whatever would serve
as the interest of "national security".
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– When one is forced to act against one's
moral values, they can experience
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extreme levels of
what we call cognitive dissonance.
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– I was radioactive because
I'm questioning what are we doing.
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Where do you then go?
Where does your life then …
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Where do you recreate your life?
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– What Intelexit does is help individuals
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transition from the world on the inside
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to the world on the outside.
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– The more you can move
from the inside to the outside,
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the better you'll integrate
into the real world.
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– What is really great about Intelexit is
that it helps people to confront their fears.
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– So take it from me:
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If you're looking to get out,
try Intelexit!
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– Be smart. Exit intelligence now.
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roaring applause
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I was really impressed
with Bruce Schneier there.
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Bruce Schneier is just amazing without end.
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I mean, who knew he had those talents?
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Someone take him to acting school.
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Like, it's amazing!
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Okay, so then we made the video,
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but of course we knew, we know
that the people that we are talking to
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the spies, are some of the
most introverted people in the world.
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And probably some of them the people
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most stuck in a filter bubble in the world.
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So we knew we had to kind of
take our preach further
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and we had to go to where they are.
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So you know we thought big and we pretended
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we just forgot about that we didn't really
have a budget.
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And so we just hired a van.
Because that's what you do.
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So we just hired this van and drove around
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Fort Meade and the NSA buildings,
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tried as much as we could to get
as close as possible to them as we could.
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applause
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So this is outside Lockheed Martin
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on a national business parkway.
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The main area of all the NSA contractors
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and they are really best friend with the NSA
and now they started making drones as well.
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They’ve been supplying technology
to the military and the CIA and NSA forever.
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So that’s us parked outside there,
giving them a strong moral punch
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with the slogan.
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And then we went to one of the most popular
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cafes where NSA officers and contractors
like to go for lunch.
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This Café JOE.
And we parked out there
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during lunch time as well.
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applause
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And then of course, because you can't talk
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about the Secret Services in one country
without talking about the other ones,
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'cause they are all in bed with each other,
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we of course had to go to the UK as well.
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So here we are outside the "Donut" and
this is us trying …
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okay, to be honest
laughing
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that's trying to hand out flyer, brochures
to the people.
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Like that was our plan.
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We were gonna hand them out
to the employees on their way to work.
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And they were just like imitates engine roar
they had, like, been briefed..
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or I don't know.
They were just ignoring us.
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And also maybe we didn't brief that guy
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very well on what to dress
as an Intelexit ambassador.
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And then we hit all the …
laughter in the audience
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applause
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This is outside the Dagger Complex in Germany.
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One of the lesser known spots for the NSA
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where they kind of have a central hub
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for the signal's intelligence
gathering in Europe,
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it's been written about in the Spiegel.
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Very secret, very difficult
to get there as well.
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And there we are, again,
from the other side.
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And that is the antenna
from the Dagger Complex.
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And then we also went to Wiesbaden,
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which is the traditional
home of the US military in Germany
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And the Clay Kaserne Building!
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This is where supposedly, forthcoming
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is going to be
one of the NSA’s biggest buildings
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and operations in Europe,
also all very secret.
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No one knows what's going on.
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And then we went to the
US Embassy in Berlin.
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And this for non German speakers just says:
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"Enough with paranoia!"
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This is why we had the like
dadaistic pineapple on there.
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"We’re helping you to
get out of the Secret Services!"
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And then we went to the
German Secret Services as well.
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This is there new office block,
the Bundesnachrichtendienst
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applause
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and we also went
to the old offices, just in case.
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laughter and applause
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And then we went to …
—we did a lot in a week—
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we went to the Verfassungsschutz which is
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the domestic intelligence in Germany.
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And this is located in Köln,
to remind them about
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—so the Verfassungsschutz actually
stands for roughly translated in English is:
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Protectors of the constitution—
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and in order to remind them about
the constitution
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we stuck the constitution on their wall there.
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applause
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And then there they are ripping it up.
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This was like a dream we had
for a very long time
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and finally we have realized it. laughing
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And then we thought we take a bigger step...
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music
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laughter in the audience
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music
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applause in the audience
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According to sources, Intelexit website
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was blocked on the internal network
after that dropped.
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So that was our week and that was Intelexit.
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And I just want to
share a few learnings with you,
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because it was a very
interesting campaign for us
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and one of a kind, really.
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So I think the first thing
on a very kind of
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just basic level is that it is possible
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to talk about this issue
without creating fear,
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without making everyone, you know,
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really worried about their information
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and the data and their general feeling
of well-being.
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There is a way of kind of shift the narrative
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and look more at the outside and stop
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holding the defensive.
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Okay, then second thing is that
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they are just as good in faking as we are.
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This was the response from the GCHQ to a
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journalist question for an article about
Intelexit, which is amazing,
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because they basically just said
that they don’t do
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anything unlawful and they actively encourage
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staff to discuss any concerns that they have
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inside, which we all know is not true.
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And they also they really pride themselves
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on the structures they have in place
to support this.
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So I think this was
the biggest surprise for us.
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Like we are always dealing in this kind of
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projecting of either utopias or distopias
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out into the world
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and sometimes when you have a vision
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and you project something out,
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actually it kind of turns into reality.
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And that's what happened.
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You know, we played this line of
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yes it's sort of a fake, but at the same time
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we really mean what we’re putting out here.
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Yes, we actually think there should be
an Intelexit Foundation created.
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And there should be loads of money
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flowing in for people who want to get out.
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And there should be a civil way to exit.
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applause
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But, you know, what can we do?
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We're just like a small art collective
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in Berlin. You know.
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We can make a big wave, but we're
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quite limited on our resources.
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But actually we got responses,
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we got people coming to us
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and that was a real surprise
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and we realised we have
a lot of responsibility, too.
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And so, this is the other learning that
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there is no clear line
between insanity and reality.
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So you kind of constantly, when you get
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people contacting you this like,
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of course you get people who think that
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they are pursued by the CIA
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or think that they used to work at the secret
service
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and then there is people who talk to aliens
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and these kinds of things
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and then you get people with really legitimate
stories
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and there is a kind of constant balance
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and we really had to learn how to
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assess these.
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And luckily we had amazing support from
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investigative journalists, particularly from
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whistle-blower platforms who have experience
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with this and help us.
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But that's just part of the game.
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Okay, I think this is our other learning,
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that we realised, that
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at the end of this week,
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there really is a need for this.
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There is a need to respond to kind of
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discourse that's out there
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and create a new one
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and then there is also really a need to
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provide this kind of support and
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actually reach out to people who are
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trapped in these structures and want to get
out.
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So we've been working really hard and trying
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to build up networks of support with people
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who have legal skills,
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who have psychological training
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and who can also help, if people want to
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get out and leak or blow the whistle,
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who can help with that.
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So we kind of at the moment when people come
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we are trying to direct them to the right
resources.
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Because of cause we're not
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a whistle blowing platform.
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And we are not a legal organisation,
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so we can't provide a lot of things,
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but we have good networks and we can try
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and connect people with them.
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So what's coming next?
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We are trying to build up our infrastructure
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so that people can actually have a very secure
way
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to contact us.
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We are building up this network of support
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and we want to create a list of future
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employers for people who actually do leave
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the secret services so that they can find
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places to get jobs afterwards.
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And we want to continue doing more
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outreach and more campaigning on this issue
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and I think that that is our main goal.
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applause
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That's a safe within a safe,
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which is now part of our kind of secure
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infrastructure in our offices,
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thanks to the support of very experienced
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and knowledgeable expert people
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who can help us set up the kind of
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the best way for people to kind of
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to enter the risk assessment to enter the
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best means of communicating with us.
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And then on our outreach plans
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we really want to create a way to talk to
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people who're working in the secret services
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for an every day person in this audience
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or on the stage just to call up the NSA
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or the BND or the GCHQ and get through
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to someone who is sitting in their office
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on their phone and have a conversation
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with them like callcenter-style.
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You know like: How are you doing today?
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Can we talk about your job?
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How do you feel about working at the
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secret services?
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We want to create an anonymous reaching
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system for someone to call completely
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anonymously to a set of numbers
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which we can't reveal the source of
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and to reach out to these people.
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So of course we need support and help.
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And these are all the things you can help
us with.
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If you got skills, we need all kinds of skills,
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we need skills to build up this call center
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operation of ours, so that people can actually
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anonymously call and we can have something
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that is very exciting and we can premier at
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events.
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So that you can actually have
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call center operations on stage calling up
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doing it live.
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And then we also need people who will
00:25:22.289 --> 00:25:25.659
translate our materials.
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We would like to get them into other
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languages, we only have English and German
atm.
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And we would like to kind of reach out more
00:25:32.379 --> 00:25:35.320
internationally.
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And if you've got connections,
00:25:37.840 --> 00:25:39.460
well that's also always good,
00:25:39.460 --> 00:25:42.919
if you've got people who are lawyers,
00:25:42.919 --> 00:25:46.129
who have experience working with people
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who are either in trauma or
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people who have been in the secret service
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for example.
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Legal skills, psychological skills,
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journalists - we need all those kinds of
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connections in different jurisdictions.
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We are pretty well set up in Berlin and
00:26:03.039 --> 00:26:05.919
in Germany, but we really need help
00:26:05.919 --> 00:26:09.090
in the UK and the US as well for now.
00:26:09.090 --> 00:26:10.889
And then if you've got ideas for outreach
00:26:10.889 --> 00:26:12.879
for new actions we are also really open
00:26:12.879 --> 00:26:14.330
to hearing those.
00:26:14.330 --> 00:26:16.279
We've got the call center idea at the moment.
00:26:16.279 --> 00:26:17.070
Calling up the spies.
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We want new ideas and if you know people
00:26:20.980 --> 00:26:22.509
who are working there just have that
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conversation with them.
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Just start a conversation about you know,
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ethics of the workplace.
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applause
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And now... the big question...
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And I even do that to say how important it
is.
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If you like Peng!'s work we are not ashamed
00:26:47.759 --> 00:26:49.409
any more. We were ashamed for a long time
00:26:49.409 --> 00:26:49.970
to ask for money,
00:26:49.970 --> 00:26:51.509
but we're not ashamed any more.
00:26:51.509 --> 00:26:54.350
We live of idealism alone, people,
00:26:54.350 --> 00:26:57.320
and we need help to keep our actions going!
00:26:57.320 --> 00:26:59.200
This year I think we did 6 actions or something
00:26:59.200 --> 00:27:03.950
really large campaigns and we need help to
00:27:03.950 --> 00:27:06.619
kind of support our infrastructure,
00:27:06.619 --> 00:27:09.289
to support our staff,
00:27:09.289 --> 00:27:12.480
to support our projects more than anything,
00:27:12.480 --> 00:27:16.580
so that we can keep on doing what we are doing.
00:27:16.580 --> 00:27:19.049
So we've developed a way for you to become
00:27:19.049 --> 00:27:22.230
a monkey donator which I highly recommend
00:27:22.230 --> 00:27:26.450
great feelings of positivity and love will
00:27:26.450 --> 00:27:28.830
travel with you for many years after
00:27:28.830 --> 00:27:35.299
you have done this.
00:27:35.299 --> 00:27:37.399
Mother Theresa said:
00:27:37.399 --> 00:27:39.100
If you can't feed a hundred penguins,
00:27:39.100 --> 00:27:40.669
then just feed one."
00:27:40.669 --> 00:27:43.629
So, feed one of us!
00:27:43.629 --> 00:27:45.470
Even if it's just like the pinky finger of
00:27:45.470 --> 00:27:49.429
one of us and sign up for a year to
00:27:49.429 --> 00:27:51.330
keep seeing great action coming out
00:27:51.330 --> 00:27:54.070
from Peng!
00:27:54.070 --> 00:27:55.200
And that's me.
00:27:55.200 --> 00:27:57.169
And we've got one more thing,
00:27:57.169 --> 00:28:01.919
surprise!
Where are you? Hello!
00:28:01.919 --> 00:28:03.989
So we have one other way to donate,
00:28:03.989 --> 00:28:05.289
which is that you can buy one of the
00:28:05.289 --> 00:28:07.149
awesome Intelexit T-shirts,
00:28:07.149 --> 00:28:09.379
which Paul is gonna come here and model
00:28:09.379 --> 00:28:13.029
for us quickly.
00:28:13.029 --> 00:28:15.950
laughing and applause
00:28:15.950 --> 00:28:19.460
And there's a run for your life!
00:28:19.460 --> 00:28:20.609
That's the kind of lame one...
00:28:20.609 --> 00:28:24.409
but these ones are cool!
00:28:24.409 --> 00:28:26.840
Thank you!
00:28:26.840 --> 00:28:30.609
Are we meeting afterwards?
00:28:30.609 --> 00:28:31.999
I think we're going to have...
00:28:31.999 --> 00:28:33.019
We don't have time for questions
00:28:33.019 --> 00:28:33.669
and answers now.
00:28:33.669 --> 00:28:35.080
But we really want to get feedback
00:28:35.080 --> 00:28:35.499
from people.
00:28:35.499 --> 00:28:38.029
I think there is an IRC Chat or Radio happening,
00:28:38.029 --> 00:28:39.509
but if people want to come we're going
00:28:39.509 --> 00:28:41.090
to meet.
00:28:41.090 --> 00:28:43.580
Where are we meeting?
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In front!
00:28:45.290 --> 00:28:47.139
laughing
00:28:47.139 --> 00:28:50.980
Of this huge hall.
00:28:50.980 --> 00:28:51.940
Can someone give me a location,
00:28:51.940 --> 00:28:54.470
I only got here today...
00:28:54.470 --> 00:28:55.799
Can you give us a location?
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Herald: Okay, So it's sensible to meet
00:28:56.989 --> 00:28:58.269
at the tea tent I suppose.
00:28:58.269 --> 00:28:58.940
Gloria: Tea tent!
00:28:58.940 --> 00:28:59.619
In 15 minutes!
00:28:59.619 --> 00:29:02.139
Herald: In front of hall 2, there is a big
tea tent,
00:29:02.139 --> 00:29:05.249
where you get tea, where you also
00:29:05.249 --> 00:29:06.820
meet many other people who are working
00:29:06.820 --> 00:29:08.649
in this direction therefore, right?
00:29:08.649 --> 00:29:09.289
Gloria: Yes!
00:29:09.289 --> 00:29:11.679
Herald: And I have one question still,
00:29:11.679 --> 00:29:14.789
because you told we can support on the Internet
00:29:14.789 --> 00:29:17.850
is there also a way to donate anonymously?
00:29:17.850 --> 00:29:20.960
Gloria: Well, you can donate with bitcoin
00:29:20.960 --> 00:29:22.759
or you can just give us cash.
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Herald: Everybody, big piles of cash,
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bring them here!
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Gloria: Not saying no to cash...
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Herald: Thank you, Gloria!
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Gloria: Ah, they got a bag!
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Herald: And there is a bag for cash!
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laughing
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Gloria: You can put it in very anonymously
here.
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laughing
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Herald: Bring your blocking for your face
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if you really want to be anonymous.
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Thank you, Gloria!
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Everybody who wants to come,
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please go to the tea tent!
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applause
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music
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