Electronic Interactions Reform Bill- Committee Stage- Second Reading - Video 3

did this afternoon in a vague and
incoherent

did this afternoon in a vague and
incoherent manner,

did this afternoon in a vague and
incoherent manner, but really

did this afternoon in a vague and
incoherent manner, but really cut

incoherent manner, but really cut to
the chase,

incoherent manner, but really cut to
the chase,

incoherent manner, but really cut to
the chase, say what needs to be

incoherent manner, but really cut to
the chase, say what needs to be

the chase, say what needs to be said
and commend the

the chase, say what needs to be said
and commend the bill

the chase, say what needs to be said
and commend the bill to the

the chase, say what needs to be said
and commend the bill to the

the chase, say what needs to be said
and commend the bill to the House.

and commend the bill to the House.
The

and commend the bill to the House.
The Hon Clare

and commend the bill to the House.
The Hon Clare

and commend the bill to the House.
The Hon Clare Curran. For

and commend the bill to the House.
The Hon Clare Curran. For

and commend the bill to the House.
The Hon Clare Curran. For someone

The Hon Clare Curran. For someone
who professes not

The Hon Clare Curran. For someone
who professes not

The Hon Clare Curran. For someone
who professes not to

The Hon Clare Curran. For someone
who professes not to

who professes not to like Wagnarian
operas he did

who professes not to like Wagnarian
operas he did

who professes not to like Wagnarian
operas he did tend

who professes not to like Wagnarian
operas he did tend to

who professes not to like Wagnarian
operas he did tend to whittle on

who professes not to like Wagnarian
operas he did tend to whittle on

operas he did tend to whittle on a
bit

operas he did tend to whittle on a
bit

operas he did tend to whittle on a
bit during that speech.

operas he did tend to whittle on a
bit during that speech. I'm

bit during that speech. I'm pleased
to speak

bit during that speech. I'm pleased
to speak on

bit during that speech. I'm pleased
to speak on the second

bit during that speech. I'm pleased
to speak on the second

to speak on the second reading of
the Electronic

to speak on the second reading of
the Electronic

to speak on the second reading of
the Electronic Interactions

the Electronic Interactions Reform
Bill, which

the Electronic Interactions Reform
Bill, which

the Electronic Interactions Reform
Bill, which they describe

the Electronic Interactions Reform
Bill, which they describe

the Electronic Interactions Reform
Bill, which they describe as an

the Electronic Interactions Reform
Bill, which they describe as an

Bill, which they describe as an
omnibus bill because

Bill, which they describe as an
omnibus bill because

Bill, which they describe as an
omnibus bill because it amend a

omnibus bill because it amend a
whole

omnibus bill because it amend a
whole bunch

omnibus bill because it amend a
whole bunch

omnibus bill because it amend a
whole bunch of different bills.

whole bunch of different bills.
Behind

whole bunch of different bills.
Behind that

whole bunch of different bills.
Behind that

whole bunch of different bills.
Behind that lies a

whole bunch of different bills.
Behind that lies a

whole bunch of different bills.

whole bunch of different bills.

significant purpose which this new
Government

significant purpose which this new
Government supports in

significant purpose which this new
Government supports in principle

Government supports in principle and
in terms

Government supports in principle and
in terms of

Government supports in principle and
in terms of the

Government supports in principle and
in terms of the populous

Government supports in principle and
in terms of the populous and

in terms of the populous and
citizens being

in terms of the populous and
citizens being

in terms of the populous and
citizens being able

in terms of the populous and
citizens being able to

in terms of the populous and
citizens being able to

in terms of the populous and
citizens being able to interact

in terms of the populous and
citizens being able to interact more

in terms of the populous and
citizens being able to interact more

citizens being able to interact more
through

citizens being able to interact more
through electronic means

citizens being able to interact more
through electronic means with

through electronic means with its
Government.

through electronic means with its
Government.

through electronic means with its
Government. However,

through electronic means with its
Government. However, along

through electronic means with its
Government. However, along

through electronic means with its
Government. However, along with that

through electronic means with its
Government. However, along with that

Government. However, along with that
goes a

Government. However, along with that
goes a

Government. However, along with that
goes a responsibility of

Government. However, along with that
goes a responsibility of

goes a responsibility of Government
to

goes a responsibility of Government
to

goes a responsibility of Government
to ensure that no

goes a responsibility of Government
to ensure that no

goes a responsibility of Government
to ensure that no bid is left

goes a responsibility of Government
to ensure that no bid is left

nobody is left behind and nobody is
disenfranchised

nobody is left behind and nobody is
disenfranchised and

nobody is left behind and nobody is
disenfranchised and

nobody is left behind and nobody is
disenfranchised and unable to

nobody is left behind and nobody is
disenfranchised and unable to

disenfranchised and unable to access
the

disenfranchised and unable to access
the technology

disenfranchised and unable to access
the technology and therefore

disenfranchised and unable to access
the technology and therefore

the technology and therefore unable
to

the technology and therefore unable
to

the technology and therefore unable
to communicate with its

the technology and therefore unable
to communicate with its

the technology and therefore unable

the technology and therefore unable

Government. Unfortunately, that part
of

Government. Unfortunately, that part
of the

Government. Unfortunately, that part
of the

Government. Unfortunately, that part
of the ation has

Government. Unfortunately, that part
of the ation has

Government. Unfortunately, that part
of the ation has been

of the ation has been woefully
ignored by

of the ation has been woefully
ignored by the

of the ation has been woefully
ignored by the previous

of the ation has been woefully
ignored by the previous

of the ation has been woefully
ignored by the previous Government

ignored by the previous Government
in

ignored by the previous Government
in

ignored by the previous Government
in its approach right

ignored by the previous Government
in its approach right throughout

ignored by the previous Government
in its approach right throughout the

in its approach right throughout the
last nine years.

in its approach right throughout the
last nine years.

in its approach right throughout the
last nine years. You will not

in its approach right throughout the

there listening tonight will notice
a

there listening tonight will notice
a significant, in

there listening tonight will notice
a significant, in fact,

a significant, in fact, massive
difference

a significant, in fact, massive
difference

a significant, in fact, massive
difference in approach from

a significant, in fact, massive
difference in approach from

a significant, in fact, massive
difference in approach from this

a significant, in fact, massive
difference in approach from this new

difference in approach from this new
Government,

difference in approach from this new
Government,

difference in approach from this new
Government, which

difference in approach from this new
Government, which takes

difference in approach from this new
Government, which takes a

difference in approach from this new
Government, which takes a

difference in approach from this new
Government, which takes a very

Government, which takes a very
progressive,

Government, which takes a very
progressive, modern

Government, which takes a very
progressive, modern

Government, which takes a very
progressive, modern approach to

Government, which takes a very
progressive, modern approach to

Government, which takes a very
progressive, modern approach to how

progressive, modern approach to how

progressive, modern approach to how

progressive, modern approach to how

progressive, modern approach to how

Government but importantly, one that
does

Government but importantly, one that
does not

Government but importantly, one that
does not leave

Government but importantly, one that
does not leave people behind.

Government but importantly, one that
does not leave people behind. And

does not leave people behind. And
this is an important

does not leave people behind. And

does not leave people behind. And

does not leave people behind. And

does not leave people behind. And

the Minister of Internal Affairs
made

the Minister of Internal Affairs
made reference

the Minister of Internal Affairs
made reference

the Minister of Internal Affairs
made reference to this in

the Minister of Internal Affairs
made reference to this in

made reference to this in her speech
made reference to this in her speech

made reference to this in her speech
and I'm

made reference to this in her speech
and I'm sure that

made reference to this in her speech
and I'm sure that we

made reference to this in her speech
and I'm sure that we will be

made reference to this in her speech
and I'm sure that we will be working

made reference to this in her speech
and I'm sure that we will be working

and I'm sure that we will be working
in accord on

and I'm sure that we will be working
in accord on

and I'm sure that we will be working
in accord on that

and I'm sure that we will be working
in accord on that very

and I'm sure that we will be working
in accord on that very matter

and I'm sure that we will be working

along with other ministers as we go
forward

along with other ministers as we go
forward into

along with other ministers as we go
forward into this

along with other ministers as we go
forward into this new

along with other ministers as we go
forward into this new era

along with other ministers as we go
forward into this new era of hope

forward into this new era of hope
and

forward into this new era of hope
and what

forward into this new era of hope
and what I

forward into this new era of hope
and what I describe

forward into this new era of hope
and what I describe

and what I describe as digital
inclusion,

and what I describe as digital
inclusion,

and what I describe as digital
inclusion, which

and what I describe as digital
inclusion, which is

and what I describe as digital
inclusion, which is

inclusion, which is an extremely
important place for us

inclusion, which is an extremely
important place for us

inclusion, which is an extremely
important place for us to be.

inclusion, which is an extremely
important place for us to be. Mr

important place for us to be. Mr
Speaker, as

important place for us to be. Mr
Speaker, as

important place for us to be. Mr
Speaker, as the

important place for us to be. Mr
Speaker, as the

important place for us to be. Mr
Speaker, as the new

important place for us to be. Mr
Speaker, as the new minister for

Speaker, as the new minister for
Government

Speaker, as the new minister for
Government digital services, I,

Speaker, as the new minister for
Government digital services, I,

Government digital services, I, of
course, support

Government digital services, I, of
course, support

Government digital services, I, of
course, support any moves

Government digital services, I, of
course, support any moves that

Government digital services, I, of
course, support any moves that make

course, support any moves that make
it easier

course, support any moves that make
it easier

course, support any moves that make
it easier for New Zealanders

course, support any moves that make
it easier for New Zealanders

it easier for New Zealanders to
access public

it easier for New Zealanders to
access public

it easier for New Zealanders to
access public services which include

it easier for New Zealanders to
access public services which include

access public services which include
that drive

access public services which include
that drive

access public services which include
that drive towards more

access public services which include
that drive towards more

that drive towards more effective
digital

that drive towards more effective
digital

that drive towards more effective
digital services across

that drive towards more effective
digital services across Government

digital services across Government
because the

digital services across Government
because the

because the digital transformation
of Government is

because the digital transformation
of Government is

because the digital transformation
of Government is part

because the digital transformation
of Government is part of

because the digital transformation
of Government is part of

because the digital transformation
of Government is part of a

because the digital transformation
of Government is part of a wider

because the digital transformation
of Government is part of a wider

because the digital transformation
of Government is part of a wider and

of Government is part of a wider and
critical

of Government is part of a wider and
critical transformation

of Government is part of a wider and
critical transformation

of Government is part of a wider and
critical transformation of our whole

of Government is part of a wider and
critical transformation of our whole

critical transformation of our whole
society from increased

critical transformation of our whole
society from increased

critical transformation of our whole
society from increased use

society from increased use of
digital technologies for

society from increased use of
digital technologies for our

digital technologies for our economy
as well as

digital technologies for our economy
as well as

digital technologies for our economy
as well as the

digital technologies for our economy
as well as the way that Government

digital technologies for our economy
as well as the way that Government

as well as the way that Government
communicates and

as well as the way that Government
communicates and

as well as the way that Government
communicates and does business

as well as the way that Government
communicates and does business

as well as the way that Government
communicates and does business with

communicates and does business with
communicates

You

You know, I

You know, I

You know, I want to

You know, I want to

You know, I want to reiterate ha the

You know, I want to reiterate ha the

You know, I want to reiterate ha the
previous Government was

You know, I want to reiterate ha the
previous Government was

previous Government was all about
pushing

previous Government was all about
pushing

previous Government was all about
pushing New Zealanders to

previous Government was all about
pushing New Zealanders to

pushing New Zealanders to interact
with the

pushing New Zealanders to interact
with the Government

pushing New Zealanders to interact
with the Government digitally, which

pushing New Zealanders to interact
with the Government digitally, which

with the Government digitally, which
this bill represents,

with the Government digitally, which
this bill represents,

with the Government digitally, which
this bill represents, but not at

with the Government digitally, which
this bill represents, but not at all

this bill represents, but not at all
about ensuring

this bill represents, but not at all
about ensuring

about ensuring that all New
Zealanders were

about ensuring that all New
Zealanders were able

about ensuring that all New
Zealanders were able to do so.

about ensuring that all New
Zealanders were able to do so. And

Zealanders were able to do so. And
in the

Zealanders were able to do so. And
in the

Zealanders were able to do so. And
in the commentary

Zealanders were able to do so. And
in the commentary on

Zealanders were able to do so. And
in the commentary on this

Zealanders were able to do so. And
in the commentary on this bill,

in the commentary on this bill, the
Labour and Coalition

in the commentary on this bill, the
Labour and Coalition

Labour and Coalition Government
members,

Labour and Coalition Government
members,

Labour and Coalition Government
members, who

Labour and Coalition Government
members, who were then

Labour and Coalition Government
members, who were then

Labour and Coalition Government
members, who were then in

members, who were then in
Opposition,

members, who were then in
Opposition, made mention of this

members, who were then in
Opposition, made mention of this

members, who were then in
Opposition, made mention of this in

Opposition, made mention of this in
the commentary to this

Opposition, made mention of this in
the commentary to this piece

the commentary to this piece of
legislation,

the commentary to this piece of
legislation, where

the commentary to this piece of
legislation, where the

the commentary to this piece of
legislation, where the impact

the commentary to this piece of
legislation, where the impact of

the commentary to this piece of
legislation, where the impact of the

legislation, where the impact of the
digital

legislation, where the impact of the
digital divide

legislation, where the impact of the
digital divide was raised

legislation, where the impact of the
digital divide was raised

legislation, where the impact of the
digital divide was raised as

digital divide was raised as a
significant issue and

digital divide was raised as a
significant issue and

significant issue and questions were
asked about

significant issue and questions were
asked about

significant issue and questions were
asked about what this

significant issue and questions were
asked about what this

asked about what this Government was
going to do

asked about what this Government was
going to do about

asked about what this Government was
going to do about it. So

asked about what this Government was
going to do about it. So

going to do about it. So I want to
spend

going to do about it. So I want to
spend

going to do about it. So I want to
spend a

going to do about it. So I want to
spend a few

going to do about it. So I want to
spend a few minutes,

going to do about it. So I want to
spend a few minutes, Mr Speaker,

spend a few minutes, Mr Speaker,
actually

spend a few minutes, Mr Speaker,
actually speaking about that

spend a few minutes, Mr Speaker,
actually speaking about that

actually speaking about that very
matter

actually speaking about that very
matter

actually speaking about that very
matter and just

actually speaking about that very
matter and just

actually speaking about that very
matter and just exactly what the

actually speaking about that very
matter and just exactly what the

matter and just exactly what the
digital divide is.

matter and just exactly what the
digital divide is.

matter and just exactly what the
digital divide is. Of course,

matter and just exactly what the
digital divide is. Of course, there

digital divide is. Of course, there
hasn't been a great

digital divide is. Of course, there
hasn't been a great

digital divide is. Of course, there
hasn't been a great deal of

digital divide is. Of course, there
hasn't been a great deal of research

hasn't been a great deal of research
done

hasn't been a great deal of research
done in

hasn't been a great deal of research
done in this country

hasn't been a great deal of research
done in this country

hasn't been a great deal of research
done in this country on

done in this country on this because
the Opposition

done in this country on this because
the Opposition now,

done in this country on this because
the Opposition now, the

done in this country on this because
the Opposition now, the previous

the Opposition now, the previous
the Opposition now, the previous

the Opposition now, the previous
Government, really did not put

the Opposition now, the previous
Government, really did not put

Government, really did not put any
weight

Government, really did not put any
weight

Government, really did not put any
weight on it, was

Government, really did not put any
weight on it, was

Government, really did not put any
weight on it, was not interested in

Government, really did not put any
weight on it, was not interested in

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it but the

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it but the

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it but the world

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it but the world Internet

weight on it, was not interested in
pursuing it but the world Internet

pursuing it but the world Internet
Project estimates

pursuing it but the world Internet
Project estimates that

pursuing it but the world Internet

pursuing it but the world Internet

New Zealanders, or around 1 in every
11

New Zealanders, or around 1 in every
11 people, are not

New Zealanders, or around 1 in every
11 people, are not

New Zealanders, or around 1 in every
11 people, are not regular users

New Zealanders, or around 1 in every
11 people, are not regular users

11 people, are not regular users of
the internet,

11 people, are not regular users of
the internet,

11 people, are not regular users of
the internet, while a

11 people, are not regular users of
the internet, while a

11 people, are not regular users of
the internet, while a further

that adds up to one in every five
who

that adds up to one in every five
who use the

that adds up to one in every five
who use the

that adds up to one in every five
who use the enter net sparingly

that adds up to one in every five
who use the enter net sparingly

who use the enter net sparingly or
not at all.

who use the enter net sparingly or
not at all. That

who use the enter net sparingly or
not at all. That is just the

who use the enter net sparingly or
not at all. That is just the

not at all. That is just the basis
of the

not at all. That is just the basis
of the

not at all. That is just the basis
of the research that we have now.

not at all. That is just the basis
of the research that we have now.

of the research that we have now.
There needs to

of the research that we have now.
There needs to be

of the research that we have now.
There needs to be a

of the research that we have now.
There needs to be a lot

There needs to be a lot more
research

There needs to be a lot more
research on

There needs to be a lot more
research on this.

There needs to be a lot more
research on this. The

There needs to be a lot more
research on this. The 2020

There needs to be a lot more
research on this. The 2020

research on this. The 2020 trust
estimates that

research on this. The 2020 trust
estimates that

research on this. The 2020 trust
estimates that around

estimates that around 40,000

estimates that around 40,000

don't have access to the internet.
Affordability,

don't have access to the internet.
Affordability, a

don't have access to the internet.
Affordability, a key

don't have access to the internet.
Affordability, a key issue. It

don't have access to the internet.
Affordability, a key issue. It

Affordability, a key issue. It is
great to

Affordability, a key issue. It is
great to

Affordability, a key issue. It is
great to see

Affordability, a key issue. It is
great to see that organisations

Affordability, a key issue. It is
great to see that organisations

great to see that organisations like
the 2020

great to see that organisations like
the 2020

great to see that organisations like
the 2020 Trust,

the 2020 Trust, which runs computers
in

the 2020 Trust, which runs computers
in

the 2020 Trust, which runs computers
in homes, have

the 2020 Trust, which runs computers
in homes, have

the 2020 Trust, which runs computers
in homes, have been

the 2020 Trust, which runs computers
in homes, have been doing

in homes, have been doing such
important

in homes, have been doing such
important work

in homes, have been doing such
important work in

in homes, have been doing such
important work in this

in homes, have been doing such
important work in this space.

in homes, have been doing such
important work in this space. Of

important work in this space. Of
course the previous

important work in this space. Of
course the previous

course the previous Government axed
the funding to

course the previous Government axed
the funding to

course the previous Government axed
the funding to them,

course the previous Government axed
the funding to them, which is one

course the previous Government axed
the funding to them, which is one

course the previous Government axed
the funding to them, which is one of

the funding to them, which is one of
the very few

the funding to them, which is one of
the very few

the funding to them, which is one of
the very few programmes that

the funding to them, which is one of
the very few programmes that

that were out there trying to close
the

that were out there trying to close
the digital

that were out there trying to close
the digital

that were out there trying to close
the digital divide and,

that were out there trying to close
the digital divide and, of

the digital divide and, of course,
they axed the

the digital divide and, of course,
they axed the funding

the digital divide and, of course,
they axed the funding to them. We,

the digital divide and, of course,
they axed the funding to them. We,

they axed the funding to them. We,
of course,

they axed the funding to them. We,
of course,

they axed the funding to them. We,
of course, will be

they axed the funding to them. We,
of course, will be going

they axed the funding to them. We,
of course, will be going in

they axed the funding to them. We,
of course, will be going in

of course, will be going in the
opposite direction. Otago

of course, will be going in the
opposite direction. Otago

opposite direction. Otago university
has done

opposite direction. Otago university
has done

opposite direction. Otago university
has done work on

opposite direction. Otago university
has done work on

opposite direction. Otago university
has done work on a

has done work on a social
deprivation inTex, which

has done work on a social
deprivation inTex, which

has done work on a social

has done work on a social

index, which has identified the lack
of

index, which has identified the lack
of internet access

index, which has identified the lack
of internet access at

index, which has identified the lack
of internet access at home

index, which has identified the lack
of internet access at home as

index, which has identified the lack
of internet access at home as being

index, which has identified the lack
of internet access at home as being

of internet access at home as being
the

of internet access at home as being
the highestweighted factor

of internet access at home as being
the highestweighted factor

the highestweighted factor for
social deprivation

the highestweighted factor for
social deprivation for

the highestweighted factor for
New Zealanders. What

the highestweighted factor for
New Zealanders. What

the highestweighted factor for
New Zealanders. What that

New Zealanders. What that hells us

New Zealanders. What that hells us

New Zealanders. What that hells us

New Zealanders. What that hells us

access to the internet is rapidly
becoming

access to the internet is rapidly
becoming and

access to the internet is rapidly
becoming and

access to the internet is rapidly
becoming and has already become

access to the internet is rapidly
becoming and has already become a

becoming and has already become a
new measure of

becoming and has already become a
new measure of poverty

new measure of poverty in this
country.

new measure of poverty in this
country. So

new measure of poverty in this
country. So when we

new measure of poverty in this
country. So when we

new measure of poverty in this
country. So when we have

new measure of poverty in this
country. So when we have a

country. So when we have a bill
before

country. So when we have a bill
before the

country. So when we have a bill
before the House tonight,

country. So when we have a bill
before the House tonight, which

before the House tonight, which we
support, it is

before the House tonight, which we
support, it is

before the House tonight, which we

before the House tonight, which we

before the House tonight, which we

without the work being done to close
the

without the work being done to close
the

without the work being done to close
the digital

without the work being done to close
the digital divides,

without the work being done to close
the digital divides, to widen

without the work being done to close
the digital divides, to widen

the digital divides, to widen those
divides

the digital divides, to widen those
divides

the digital divides, to widen those
divides in our country

the digital divides, to widen those
divides in our country as

the digital divides, to widen those
divides in our country as more

the digital divides, to widen those
divides in our country as more and

divides in our country as more and
more

divides in our country as more and
more interactions are

divides in our country as more and
more interactions are

divides in our country as more and
more interactions are being

divides in our country as more and
more interactions are being done

more interactions are being done
electronically

more interactions are being done
electronically between

more interactions are being done
electronically between

electronically between Government
and

electronically between Government
and

electronically between Government
and citizens and

electronically between Government
and citizens and

electronically between Government
and citizens and yet the gaps

electronically between Government
and citizens and yet the gaps

and citizens and yet the gaps are
not

and citizens and yet the gaps are
not

and citizens and yet the gaps are
not being identified, they

and citizens and yet the gaps are
not being identified, they

not being identified, they are not
being

not being identified, they are not
being

not being identified, they are not
being measured and

not being identified, they are not
being measured and nothing

being measured and nothing is being
done about them.

being measured and nothing is being
done about them.

being measured and nothing is being
done about them. In fact,

being measured and nothing is being
done about them. In fact,

being measured and nothing is being
done about them. In fact, under

done about them. In fact, under this
Government,

done about them. In fact, under this
Government,

done about them. In fact, under this
Government, the

done about them. In fact, under this
Government, the

Government, the previous Government,
they

Government, the previous Government,
they

Government, the previous Government,
they were

Government, the previous Government,
they were being

Government, the previous Government,
they were being

Government, the previous Government,

Government, the previous Government,

being axed. So of course we raised
this

being axed. So of course we raised
this

being axed. So of course we raised
this when we were in

being axed. So of course we raised
this when we were in

being axed. So of course we raised
this when we were in opposition. Get

being axed. So of course we raised
this when we were in opposition. Get

this when we were in opposition. Get
into Government and

this when we were in opposition. Get
into Government and discover

into Government and discover that
that certainly is the

into Government and discover that
that certainly is the

into Government and discover that
that certainly is the case and

into Government and discover that
that certainly is the case and

into Government and discover that
that certainly is the case and that

that certainly is the case and that
the

that certainly is the case and that
the research

that certainly is the case and that
the research is very light,

that certainly is the case and that
the research is very light,

that certainly is the case and that
the research is very light, the

the research is very light, the
emphasis

the research is very light, the
emphasis

the research is very light, the
emphasis that the previous

the research is very light, the
emphasis that the previous

emphasis that the previous
Government paid

emphasis that the previous
Government paid

emphasis that the previous
Government paid was

Government paid was almost
negligible and that there

Government paid was almost
negligible and that there

Government paid was almost
negligible and that there is a lot

negligible and that there is a lot
of

negligible and that there is a lot
of work

negligible and that there is a lot
of work to

negligible and that there is a lot
of work to be done.

negligible and that there is a lot
of work to be done. This

of work to be done. This Government
is

of work to be done. This Government
is

of work to be done. This Government
is committed

of work to be done. This Government
is committed to

of work to be done. This Government
is committed to

of work to be done. This Government

of work to be done. This Government

of work to be done. This Government

digital inclusion blueprint for New
digital inclusion blueprint for New

digital inclusion blueprint for New
Zealand to

digital inclusion blueprint for New
Zealand to be

digital inclusion blueprint for New
Zealand to be

digital inclusion blueprint for New
Zealand to be doing

digital inclusion blueprint for New
Zealand to be doing the research

digital inclusion blueprint for New
Zealand to be doing the research

Zealand to be doing the research on
where those

Zealand to be doing the research on
where those

Zealand to be doing the research on
where those digital divides

Zealand to be doing the research on
where those digital divides

where those digital divides are
between

where those digital divides are
between

where those digital divides are
between rural

where those digital divides are
between rural and urban

where those digital divides are
between rural and urban communities.

between rural and urban communities.
Inside

between rural and urban communities.
Inside urban communities,

between rural and urban communities.
Inside urban communities,

Inside urban communities, where
people do

Inside urban communities, where
people do

Inside urban communities, where

Inside urban communities, where

Inside urban communities, where

Inside urban communities, where

afford internet access at home,
where

afford internet access at home,
where our

afford internet access at home,
where our children

afford internet access at home,
where our children are going

afford internet access at home,
where our children are going

where our children are going to
school, where

where our children are going to
school, where

where our children are going to
school, where there is

where our children are going to
school, where there is

school, where there is computer
access,

school, where there is computer
access,

school, where there is computer
access, going home

school, where there is computer
access, going home at

access, going home at night with an
expectation

access, going home at night with an
expectation

access, going home at night with an
expectation that they will

access, going home at night with an
expectation that they will

access, going home at night with an
expectation that they will do

access, going home at night with an
expectation that they will do their

access, going home at night with an
expectation that they will do their

expectation that they will do their
homework online,

expectation that they will do their
homework online,

expectation that they will do their
homework online, but are unable to

expectation that they will do their
homework online, but are unable to

homework online, but are unable to
because mum

homework online, but are unable to
because mum

homework online, but are unable to
because mum and dad have

homework online, but are unable to
because mum and dad have a

because mum and dad have a prepaid
phone

because mum and dad have a prepaid
phone with

because mum and dad have a prepaid
phone with no data access.

because mum and dad have a prepaid
phone with no data access.

because mum and dad have a prepaid
phone with no data access. Those

phone with no data access. Those
children

phone with no data access. Those
children

phone with no data access. Those
children are being

phone with no data access. Those
children are being

phone with no data access. Those
children are being denied

phone with no data access. Those
children are being denied their

children are being denied their
opportunities

children are being denied their
opportunities for the future.

children are being denied their
opportunities for the future.

children are being denied their
opportunities for the future. These

opportunities for the future. These

opportunities for the future. These

opportunities for the future. These

opportunities for the future. These

opportunities for the future. These

..are unable and do not have the
skills

..are unable and do not have the
skills to interact

..are unable and do not have the
skills to interact

skills to interact with Government
online,

skills to interact with Government
online,

skills to interact with Government
online, whether

skills to interact with Government
online, whether it is

skills to interact with Government
online, whether it is

skills to interact with Government
online, whether it is ordering a new

skills to interact with Government
online, whether it is ordering a new

online, whether it is ordering a new
birth certificate,

online, whether it is ordering a new
birth certificate, whether

birth certificate, whether it is
getting

birth certificate, whether it is
getting

birth certificate, whether it is
getting a new

birth certificate, whether it is
getting a new

birth certificate, whether it is
getting a new passport,

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where people

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where people who are

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where people who are

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where people who are on low

getting a new passport, whatever,
and where people who are on low

and where people who are on low
incomes and

and where people who are on low
incomes and

and where people who are on low
incomes and who are being

and where people who are on low
incomes and who are being

and where people who are on low
incomes and who are being required

incomes and who are being required
by Work and

incomes and who are being required
by Work and Income

incomes and who are being required
by Work and Income

incomes and who are being required
by Work and Income to

by Work and Income to interyacht
digital

by Work and Income to interyacht
digital

by Work and Income to interyacht

by Work and Income to interyacht

the Government are unable to. This
is

the Government are unable to. This
is creating

the Government are unable to. This
is creating disadvantage,

is creating disadvantage, it is
disenfranchising

is creating disadvantage, it is
disenfranchising large

is creating disadvantage, it is
disenfranchising large tracts of

is creating disadvantage, it is
disenfranchising large tracts of our

disenfranchising large tracts of our
population. The

disenfranchising large tracts of our
population. The

disenfranchising large tracts of our
population. The previous

population. The previous Government
really

population. The previous Government
really

population. The previous Government
really didn't give a

population. The previous Government
really didn't give a stuff.

really didn't give a stuff.

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't me
get

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't me
get up and

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't me
get up and give

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't me
get up and give a

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't me
get up and give a speech about why

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't me
get up and give a speech about why

get up and give a speech about why
the

get up and give a speech about why
the Government

get up and give a speech about why
the Government axed the

get up and give a speech about why
the Government axed the

the Government axed the funding for
computers

the Government axed the funding for
computers

the Government axed the funding for
computers in homes, which

the Government axed the funding for
computers in homes, which

the Government axed the funding for
computers in homes, which was

computers in homes, which was the
only

computers in homes, which was the
only programme

computers in homes, which was the
only programme funded by that

computers in homes, which was the
only programme funded by that

only programme funded by that
Government

only programme funded by that
Government which was

only programme funded by that
Government which was started

only programme funded by that
Government which was started by

only programme funded by that
Government which was started by

only programme funded by that
Government which was started by the

Government which was started by the
previous Labour Government...

previous Labour Government...
previous Labour Government...

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get up and

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get up and

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get up and present the

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get up and present the

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get up and present the evidence as

not you, Mr Speaker, why doesn't he
get up and present the evidence as

get up and present the evidence as
to how his previous

get up and present the evidence as
to how his previous Government

get up and present the evidence as
to how his previous Government was

to how his previous Government was
committed

to how his previous Government was
committed

to how his previous Government was
committed to

to how his previous Government was
committed to closing

committed to closing the digital
committed to closing the digital

committed to closing the digital

committed to closing the digital

committed to closing the digital

committed to closing the digital

committed to closing the digital

bill that goes to digital
transformation

bill that goes to digital
transformation but

bill that goes to digital
transformation but if

transformation but if you want to
transform

transformation but if you want to
transform

transformation but if you want to
transform the country, you have

transformation but if you want to
transform the country, you have

transform the country, you have to
take

transform the country, you have to
take

transform the country, you have to
take the whole country with

transform the country, you have to
take the whole country with

take the whole country with you in
order to

take the whole country with you in
order to

take the whole country with you in
order to be effective. If

take the whole country with you in
order to be effective. If

take the whole country with you in
order to be effective. If you

order to be effective. If you are
widening the

order to be effective. If you are
widening the

order to be effective. If you are
widening the gap and

order to be effective. If you are
widening the gap and

order to be effective. If you are
widening the gap and making

order to be effective. If you are
widening the gap and making our

widening the gap and making our
society more

widening the gap and making our
society more

widening the gap and making our
society more unequal and

widening the gap and making our
society more unequal and

society more unequal and making
digital inequality

society more unequal and making
digital inequality

society more unequal and making
digital inequality the

society more unequal and making
digital inequality the new

society more unequal and making
digital inequality the new

digital inequality the new measure
of poverty,

digital inequality the new measure
of poverty,

digital inequality the new measure
of poverty, then

digital inequality the new measure
of poverty, then that's a fail.

digital inequality the new measure
of poverty, then that's a fail. This

of poverty, then that's a fail. This
Government,

of poverty, then that's a fail. This
Government,

of poverty, then that's a fail. This
Government, this

Government, this new Government,
will not

Government, this new Government,
will not

Government, this new Government,

Government, this new Government,

digital divide and make it a
priority.

digital divide and make it a
priority.

digital divide and make it a
priority. I

digital divide and make it a
priority. I call

digital divide and make it a
priority. I call

digital divide and make it a
priority. I call Simeon

Simeon Brown. It is great to be able
to

Simeon Brown. It is great to be able
to take a

Simeon Brown. It is great to be able
to take a

to take a call on the Electronic
Interactions

to take a call on the Electronic
Interactions Reform

Interactions Reform Bill. I think
one of

Interactions Reform Bill. I think
one of

Interactions Reform Bill. I think
one of the great reasons why it

Interactions Reform Bill. I think
one of the great reasons why it

one of the great reasons why it is
so good to be

one of the great reasons why it is
so good to be

one of the great reasons why it is
so good to be able to

one of the great reasons why it is
so good to be able to

so good to be able to talk about
this piece of legislation

so good to be able to talk about
this piece of legislation

this piece of legislation is because
we continue

this piece of legislation is because
we continue

this piece of legislation is because
we continue to progress

this piece of legislation is because
we continue to progress

we continue to progress National's
legislative

we continue to progress National's
legislative

we continue to progress National's
legislative agenda through the

we continue to progress National's
legislative agenda through the

we continue to progress National's
legislative agenda through the House

legislative agenda through the House
this evening. While

legislative agenda through the House
this evening. While