DNA clues to our inner neanderthal
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0:00 - 0:03What I want to talk to you about
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0:03 - 0:05is what we can learn from studying the genomes
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0:05 - 0:07of living people
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0:07 - 0:09and extinct humans.
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0:09 - 0:11But before doing that,
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0:11 - 0:14I just briefly want to remind you about what you already know:
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0:14 - 0:16that our genomes, our genetic material,
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0:16 - 0:19are stored in almost all cells in our bodies in chromosomes
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0:19 - 0:21in the form of DNA,
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0:21 - 0:24which is this famous double-helical molecule.
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0:24 - 0:26And the genetic information
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0:26 - 0:28is contained in the form of a sequence
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0:28 - 0:30of four bases
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0:30 - 0:33abbreviated with the letters A, T, C and G.
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0:33 - 0:35And the information is there twice --
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0:35 - 0:37one on each strand --
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0:37 - 0:39which is important,
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0:39 - 0:41because when new cells are formed, these strands come apart,
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0:41 - 0:44new strands are synthesized with the old ones as templates
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0:44 - 0:47in an almost perfect process.
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0:47 - 0:49But nothing, of course, in nature
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0:49 - 0:51is totally perfect,
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0:51 - 0:53so sometimes an error is made
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0:53 - 0:56and a wrong letter is built in.
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0:56 - 0:58And we can then see the result
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0:58 - 1:00of such mutations
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1:00 - 1:02when we compare DNA sequences
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1:02 - 1:05among us here in the room, for example.
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1:05 - 1:08If we compare my genome to the genome of you,
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1:08 - 1:12approximately every 1,200, 1,300 letters
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1:12 - 1:14will differ between us.
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1:14 - 1:16And these mutations accumulate
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1:16 - 1:19approximately as a function of time.
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1:19 - 1:22So if we add in a chimpanzee here, we will see more differences.
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1:22 - 1:25Approximately one letter in a hundred
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1:25 - 1:27will differ from a chimpanzee.
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1:27 - 1:29And if you're then interested in the history
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1:29 - 1:31of a piece of DNA, or the whole genome,
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1:31 - 1:34you can reconstruct the history of the DNA
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1:34 - 1:36with those differences you observe.
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1:36 - 1:40And generally we depict our ideas about this history
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1:40 - 1:42in the form of trees like this.
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1:42 - 1:44In this case, it's very simple.
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1:44 - 1:46The two human DNA sequences
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1:46 - 1:49go back to a common ancestor quite recently.
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1:49 - 1:53Farther back is there one shared with chimpanzees.
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1:53 - 1:56And because these mutations
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1:56 - 1:58happen approximately as a function of time,
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1:58 - 2:00you can transform these differences
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2:00 - 2:02to estimates of time,
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2:02 - 2:04where the two humans, typically,
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2:04 - 2:08will share a common ancestor about half a million years ago,
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2:08 - 2:10and with the chimpanzees,
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2:10 - 2:13it will be in the order of five million years ago.
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2:13 - 2:15So what has now happened in the last few years
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2:15 - 2:17is that there are account technologies around
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2:17 - 2:21that allow you to see many, many pieces of DNA very quickly.
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2:21 - 2:23So we can now, in a matter of hours,
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2:23 - 2:26determine a whole human genome.
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2:26 - 2:29Each of us, of course, contains two human genomes --
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2:29 - 2:32one from our mothers and one from our fathers.
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2:32 - 2:36And they are around three billion such letters long.
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2:36 - 2:38And we will find that the two genomes in me,
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2:38 - 2:40or one genome of mine we want to use,
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2:40 - 2:43will have about three million differences
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2:43 - 2:45in the order of that.
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2:45 - 2:47And what you can then also begin to do
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2:47 - 2:49is to say, "How are these genetic differences
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2:49 - 2:51distributed across the world?"
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2:51 - 2:53And if you do that,
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2:53 - 2:57you find a certain amount of genetic variation in Africa.
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2:57 - 3:00And if you look outside Africa,
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3:00 - 3:03you actually find less genetic variation.
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3:03 - 3:05This is surprising, of course,
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3:05 - 3:08because in the order of six to eight times fewer people
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3:08 - 3:11live in Africa than outside Africa.
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3:11 - 3:14Yet the people inside Africa
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3:14 - 3:17have more genetic variation.
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3:17 - 3:19Moreover, almost all these genetic variants
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3:19 - 3:21we see outside Africa
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3:21 - 3:23have closely related DNA sequences
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3:23 - 3:25that you find inside Africa.
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3:25 - 3:27But if you look in Africa,
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3:27 - 3:30there is a component of the genetic variation
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3:30 - 3:33that has no close relatives outside.
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3:33 - 3:36So a model to explain this
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3:36 - 3:39is that a part of the African variation, but not all of it,
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3:39 - 3:43[has] gone out and colonized the rest of the world.
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3:43 - 3:47And together with the methods to date these genetic differences,
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3:47 - 3:49this has led to the insight
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3:49 - 3:51that modern humans --
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3:51 - 3:54humans that are essentially indistinguishable from you and me --
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3:54 - 3:57evolved in Africa, quite recently,
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3:57 - 4:01between 100 and 200,000 years ago.
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4:01 - 4:05And later, between 100 and 50,000 years ago or so,
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4:05 - 4:07went out of Africa
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4:07 - 4:09to colonize the rest of the world.
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4:09 - 4:11So what I often like to say
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4:11 - 4:13is that, from a genomic perspective,
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4:13 - 4:15we are all Africans.
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4:15 - 4:18We either live inside Africa today,
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4:18 - 4:20or in quite recent exile.
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4:20 - 4:22Another consequence
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4:22 - 4:25of this recent origin of modern humans
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4:25 - 4:27is that genetic variants
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4:27 - 4:29are generally distributed widely in the world,
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4:29 - 4:31in many places,
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4:31 - 4:34and they tend to vary as gradients,
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4:34 - 4:38from a bird's-eye perspective at least.
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4:38 - 4:40And since there are many genetic variants,
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4:40 - 4:43and they have different such gradients,
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4:43 - 4:46this means that if we determine a DNA sequence --
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4:46 - 4:49a genome from one individual --
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4:49 - 4:51we can quite accurately estimate
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4:51 - 4:53where that person comes from,
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4:53 - 4:55provided that its parents or grandparents
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4:55 - 4:58haven't moved around too much.
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4:58 - 5:00But does this then mean,
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5:00 - 5:02as many people tend to think,
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5:02 - 5:05that there are huge genetic differences between groups of people --
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5:05 - 5:07on different continents, for example?
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5:07 - 5:10Well we can begin to ask those questions also.
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5:10 - 5:13There is, for example, a project that's underway
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5:13 - 5:15to sequence a thousand individuals --
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5:15 - 5:18their genomes -- from different parts of the world.
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5:18 - 5:21They've sequenced 185 Africans
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5:21 - 5:24from two populations in Africa.
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5:24 - 5:27[They've] sequenced approximately equally [as] many people
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5:27 - 5:30in Europe and in China.
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5:30 - 5:33And we can begin to say how much variance do we find,
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5:33 - 5:36how many letters that vary
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5:36 - 5:39in at least one of those individual sequences.
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5:39 - 5:43And it's a lot: 38 million variable positions.
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5:43 - 5:46But we can then ask: Are there any absolute differences
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5:46 - 5:48between Africans and non-Africans?
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5:48 - 5:50Perhaps the biggest difference
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5:50 - 5:52most of us would imagine existed.
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5:52 - 5:54And with absolute difference --
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5:54 - 5:56and I mean a difference
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5:56 - 5:59where people inside Africa at a certain position,
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5:59 - 6:02where all individuals -- 100 percent -- have one letter,
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6:02 - 6:06and everybody outside Africa has another letter.
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6:06 - 6:09And the answer to that, among those millions of differences,
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6:09 - 6:12is that there is not a single such position.
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6:14 - 6:16This may be surprising.
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6:16 - 6:19Maybe a single individual is misclassified or so.
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6:19 - 6:21So we can relax the criterion a bit
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6:21 - 6:23and say: How many positions do we find
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6:23 - 6:25where 95 percent of people in Africa have
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6:25 - 6:27one variant,
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6:27 - 6:2995 percent another variant,
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6:29 - 6:31and the number of that is 12.
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6:31 - 6:33So this is very surprising.
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6:33 - 6:35It means that when we look at people
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6:35 - 6:38and see a person from Africa
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6:38 - 6:41and a person from Europe or Asia,
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6:41 - 6:45we cannot, for a single position in the genome with 100 percent accuracy,
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6:45 - 6:47predict what the person would carry.
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6:47 - 6:49And only for 12 positions
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6:49 - 6:53can we hope to be 95 percent right.
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6:53 - 6:55This may be surprising,
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6:55 - 6:57because we can, of course, look at these people
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6:57 - 7:01and quite easily say where they or their ancestors came from.
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7:01 - 7:03So what this means now
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7:03 - 7:05is that those traits we then look at
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7:05 - 7:07and so readily see --
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7:07 - 7:10facial features, skin color, hair structure --
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7:10 - 7:14are not determined by single genes with big effects,
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7:14 - 7:17but are determined by many different genetic variants
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7:17 - 7:19that seem to vary in frequency
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7:19 - 7:21between different parts of the world.
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7:21 - 7:24There is another thing with those traits
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7:24 - 7:27that we so easily observe in each other
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7:27 - 7:29that I think is worthwhile to consider,
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7:29 - 7:32and that is that, in a very literal sense,
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7:32 - 7:35they're really on the surface of our bodies.
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7:35 - 7:37They are what we just said --
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7:37 - 7:40facial features, hair structure, skin color.
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7:40 - 7:42There are also a number of features
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7:42 - 7:44that vary between continents like that
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7:44 - 7:48that have to do with how we metabolize food that we ingest,
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7:48 - 7:50or that have to do
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7:50 - 7:53with how our immune systems deal with microbes
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7:53 - 7:55that try to invade our bodies.
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7:55 - 7:57But so those are all parts of our bodies
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7:57 - 8:00where we very directly interact with our environment,
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8:00 - 8:04in a direct confrontation, if you like.
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8:04 - 8:06It's easy to imagine
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8:06 - 8:08how particularly those parts of our bodies
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8:08 - 8:11were quickly influenced by selection from the environment
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8:11 - 8:13and shifted frequencies of genes
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8:13 - 8:15that are involved in them.
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8:15 - 8:18But if we look on other parts of our bodies
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8:18 - 8:20where we don't directly interact with the environment --
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8:20 - 8:23our kidneys, our livers, our hearts --
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8:23 - 8:25there is no way to say,
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8:25 - 8:27by just looking at these organs,
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8:27 - 8:30where in the world they would come from.
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8:31 - 8:33So there's another interesting thing
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8:33 - 8:36that comes from this realization
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8:36 - 8:40that humans have a recent common origin in Africa,
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8:40 - 8:43and that is that when those humans emerged
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8:43 - 8:45around 100,000 years ago or so,
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8:45 - 8:47they were not alone on the planet.
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8:47 - 8:50There were other forms of humans around,
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8:50 - 8:53most famously perhaps, Neanderthals --
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8:53 - 8:55these robust forms of humans,
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8:55 - 8:57compared to the left here
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8:57 - 9:01with a modern human skeleton on the right --
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9:01 - 9:04that existed in Western Asia and Europe
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9:04 - 9:06since several hundreds of thousands of years.
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9:06 - 9:08So an interesting question is,
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9:08 - 9:10what happened when we met?
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9:10 - 9:12What happened to the Neanderthals?
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9:12 - 9:14And to begin to answer such questions,
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9:14 - 9:18my research group -- since over 25 years now --
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9:18 - 9:20works on methods to extract DNA
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9:20 - 9:22from remains of Neanderthals
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9:22 - 9:24and extinct animals
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9:24 - 9:27that are tens of thousands of years old.
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9:27 - 9:30So this involves a lot of technical issues
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9:30 - 9:32in how you extract the DNA,
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9:32 - 9:35how you convert it to a form you can sequence.
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9:35 - 9:37You have to work very carefully
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9:37 - 9:40to avoid contamination of experiments
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9:40 - 9:43with DNA from yourself.
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9:43 - 9:46And this then, in conjunction with these methods
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9:46 - 9:50that allow very many DNA molecules to be sequenced very rapidly,
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9:50 - 9:52allowed us last year
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9:52 - 9:55to present the first version of the Neanderthal genome,
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9:55 - 9:57so that any one of you
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9:57 - 9:59can now look on the Internet, on the Neanderthal genome,
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9:59 - 10:02or at least on the 55 percent of it
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10:02 - 10:05that we've been able to reconstruct so far.
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10:05 - 10:07And you can begin to compare it to the genomes
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10:07 - 10:10of people who live today.
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10:10 - 10:12And one question
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10:12 - 10:14that you may then want to ask
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10:14 - 10:16is, what happened when we met?
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10:16 - 10:18Did we mix or not?
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10:18 - 10:20And the way to ask that question
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10:20 - 10:23is to look at the Neanderthal that comes from Southern Europe
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10:23 - 10:25and compare it to genomes
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10:25 - 10:27of people who live today.
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10:27 - 10:29So we then look
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10:29 - 10:31to do this with pairs of individuals,
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10:31 - 10:33starting with two Africans,
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10:33 - 10:35looking at the two African genomes,
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10:35 - 10:38finding places where they differ from each other,
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10:38 - 10:41and in each case ask: What is a Neanderthal like?
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10:41 - 10:44Does it match one African or the other African?
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10:44 - 10:47We would expect there to be no difference,
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10:47 - 10:49because Neanderthals were never in Africa.
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10:49 - 10:52They should be equal, have no reason to be closer
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10:52 - 10:55to one African than another African.
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10:55 - 10:57And that's indeed the case.
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10:57 - 10:59Statistically speaking, there is no difference
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10:59 - 11:03in how often the Neanderthal matches one African or the other.
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11:03 - 11:05But this is different
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11:05 - 11:09if we now look at the European individual and an African.
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11:09 - 11:12Then, significantly more often,
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11:12 - 11:14does a Neanderthal match the European
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11:14 - 11:16rather than the African.
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11:16 - 11:19The same is true if we look at a Chinese individual
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11:19 - 11:21versus an African,
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11:21 - 11:25the Neanderthal will match the Chinese individual more often.
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11:25 - 11:27This may also be surprising
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11:27 - 11:29because the Neanderthals were never in China.
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11:29 - 11:33So the model we've proposed to explain this
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11:33 - 11:35is that when modern humans came out of Africa
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11:35 - 11:38sometime after 100,000 years ago,
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11:38 - 11:40they met Neanderthals.
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11:40 - 11:43Presumably, they did so first in the Middle East,
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11:43 - 11:45where there were Neanderthals living.
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11:45 - 11:47If they then mixed with each other there,
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11:47 - 11:49then those modern humans
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11:49 - 11:51that became the ancestors
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11:51 - 11:53of everyone outside Africa
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11:53 - 11:56carried with them this Neanderthal component in their genome
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11:56 - 11:58to the rest of the world.
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11:58 - 12:01So that today, the people living outside Africa
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12:01 - 12:04have about two and a half percent of their DNA
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12:04 - 12:06from Neanderthals.
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12:06 - 12:09So having now a Neanderthal genome
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12:09 - 12:11on hand as a reference point
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12:11 - 12:13and having the technologies
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12:13 - 12:15to look at ancient remains
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12:15 - 12:17and extract the DNA,
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12:17 - 12:21we can begin to apply them elsewhere in the world.
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12:21 - 12:24And the first place we've done that is in Southern Siberia
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12:24 - 12:26in the Altai Mountains
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12:26 - 12:28at a place called Denisova,
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12:28 - 12:30a cave site in this mountain here,
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12:30 - 12:33where archeologists in 2008
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12:33 - 12:35found a tiny little piece of bone --
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12:35 - 12:37this is a copy of it --
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12:37 - 12:41that they realized came from the last phalanx
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12:41 - 12:44of a little finger of a pinky of a human.
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12:44 - 12:46And it was well enough preserved
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12:46 - 12:49so we could determine the DNA from this individual,
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12:49 - 12:51even to a greater extent
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12:51 - 12:53than for the Neanderthals actually,
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12:53 - 12:55and start relating it to the Neanderthal genome
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12:55 - 12:58and to people today.
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12:58 - 13:00And we found that this individual
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13:00 - 13:03shared a common origin for his DNA sequences
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13:03 - 13:07with Neanderthals around 640,000 years ago.
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13:07 - 13:10And further back, 800,000 years ago
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13:10 - 13:12is there a common origin
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13:12 - 13:14with present day humans.
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13:14 - 13:16So this individual comes from a population
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13:16 - 13:19that shares an origin with Neanderthals,
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13:19 - 13:22but far back and then have a long independent history.
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13:22 - 13:24We call this group of humans,
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13:24 - 13:26that we then described for the first time
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13:26 - 13:28from this tiny, tiny little piece of bone,
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13:28 - 13:30the Denisovans,
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13:30 - 13:33after this place where they were first described.
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13:33 - 13:36So we can then ask for Denisovans
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13:36 - 13:38the same things as for the Neanderthals:
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13:38 - 13:42Did they mix with ancestors of present day people?
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13:42 - 13:44If we ask that question,
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13:44 - 13:46and compare the Denisovan genome
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13:46 - 13:48to people around the world,
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13:48 - 13:50we surprisingly find
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13:50 - 13:52no evidence of Denisovan DNA
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13:52 - 13:57in any people living even close to Siberia today.
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13:57 - 13:59But we do find it in Papua New Guinea
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13:59 - 14:03and in other islands in Melanesia and the Pacific.
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14:03 - 14:05So this presumably means
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14:05 - 14:08that these Denisovans had been more widespread in the past,
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14:08 - 14:11since we don't think that the ancestors of Melanesians
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14:11 - 14:13were ever in Siberia.
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14:13 - 14:15So from studying
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14:15 - 14:18these genomes of extinct humans,
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14:18 - 14:21we're beginning to arrive at a picture of what the world looked like
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14:21 - 14:24when modern humans started coming out of Africa.
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14:24 - 14:27In the West, there were Neanderthals;
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14:27 - 14:29in the East, there were Denisovans --
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14:29 - 14:31maybe other forms of humans too
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14:31 - 14:33that we've not yet described.
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14:33 - 14:36We don't know quite where the borders between these people were,
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14:36 - 14:38but we know that in Southern Siberia,
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14:38 - 14:40there were both Neanderthals and Denisovans
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14:40 - 14:43at least at some time in the past.
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14:43 - 14:46Then modern humans emerged somewhere in Africa,
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14:46 - 14:49came out of Africa, presumably in the Middle East.
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14:49 - 14:52They meet Neanderthals, mix with them,
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14:52 - 14:55continue to spread over the world,
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14:55 - 14:58and somewhere in Southeast Asia,
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14:58 - 15:00they meet Denisovans and mix with them
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15:00 - 15:03and continue on out into the Pacific.
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15:03 - 15:06And then these earlier forms of humans disappear,
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15:06 - 15:09but they live on a little bit today
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15:09 - 15:11in some of us --
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15:11 - 15:14in that people outside of Africa have two and a half percent of their DNA
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15:14 - 15:16from Neanderthals,
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15:16 - 15:18and people in Melanesia
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15:18 - 15:21actually have an additional five percent approximately
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15:21 - 15:24from the Denisovans.
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15:24 - 15:26Does this then mean that there is after all
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15:26 - 15:28some absolute difference
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15:28 - 15:31between people outside Africa and inside Africa
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15:31 - 15:33in that people outside Africa
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15:33 - 15:35have this old component in their genome
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15:35 - 15:37from these extinct forms of humans,
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15:37 - 15:39whereas Africans do not?
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15:39 - 15:42Well I don't think that is the case.
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15:42 - 15:44Presumably, modern humans
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15:44 - 15:46emerged somewhere in Africa.
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15:46 - 15:49They spread across Africa also, of course,
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15:49 - 15:52and there were older, earlier forms of humans there.
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15:52 - 15:54And since we mixed elsewhere,
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15:54 - 15:56I'm pretty sure that one day,
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15:56 - 15:58when we will perhaps have a genome
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15:58 - 16:00of also these earlier forms in Africa,
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16:00 - 16:02we will find that they have also mixed
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16:02 - 16:05with early modern humans in Africa.
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16:06 - 16:08So to sum up,
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16:08 - 16:10what have we learned from studying genomes
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16:10 - 16:12of present day humans
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16:12 - 16:14and extinct humans?
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16:14 - 16:16We learn perhaps many things,
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16:16 - 16:21but one thing that I find sort of important to mention
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16:21 - 16:24is that I think the lesson is that we have always mixed.
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16:24 - 16:26We mixed with these earlier forms of humans,
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16:26 - 16:28wherever we met them,
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16:28 - 16:32and we mixed with each other ever since.
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16:32 - 16:34Thank you for your attention.
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16:34 - 16:40(Applause)
- Title:
- DNA clues to our inner neanderthal
- Speaker:
- Svante Pääbo
- Description:
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Sharing the results of a massive, worldwide study, geneticist Svante Pääbo shows the DNA proof that early humans mated with Neanderthals after we moved out of Africa. (Yes, many of us have Neanderthal DNA.) He also shows how a tiny bone from a baby finger was enough to identify a whole new humanoid species.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
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- Duration:
- 16:41
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