1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:03,000 What I want to talk to you about 2 00:00:03,000 --> 00:00:05,000 is what we can learn from studying the genomes 3 00:00:05,000 --> 00:00:07,000 of living people 4 00:00:07,000 --> 00:00:09,000 and extinct humans. 5 00:00:09,000 --> 00:00:11,000 But before doing that, 6 00:00:11,000 --> 00:00:14,000 I just briefly want to remind you about what you already know: 7 00:00:14,000 --> 00:00:16,000 that our genomes, our genetic material, 8 00:00:16,000 --> 00:00:19,000 are stored in almost all cells in our bodies in chromosomes 9 00:00:19,000 --> 00:00:21,000 in the form of DNA, 10 00:00:21,000 --> 00:00:24,000 which is this famous double-helical molecule. 11 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:26,000 And the genetic information 12 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,000 is contained in the form of a sequence 13 00:00:28,000 --> 00:00:30,000 of four bases 14 00:00:30,000 --> 00:00:33,000 abbreviated with the letters A, T, C and G. 15 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,000 And the information is there twice -- 16 00:00:35,000 --> 00:00:37,000 one on each strand -- 17 00:00:37,000 --> 00:00:39,000 which is important, 18 00:00:39,000 --> 00:00:41,000 because when new cells are formed, these strands come apart, 19 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:44,000 new strands are synthesized with the old ones as templates 20 00:00:44,000 --> 00:00:47,000 in an almost perfect process. 21 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,000 But nothing, of course, in nature 22 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:51,000 is totally perfect, 23 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:53,000 so sometimes an error is made 24 00:00:53,000 --> 00:00:56,000 and a wrong letter is built in. 25 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,000 And we can then see the result 26 00:00:58,000 --> 00:01:00,000 of such mutations 27 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:02,000 when we compare DNA sequences 28 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:05,000 among us here in the room, for example. 29 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:08,000 If we compare my genome to the genome of you, 30 00:01:08,000 --> 00:01:12,000 approximately every 1,200, 1,300 letters 31 00:01:12,000 --> 00:01:14,000 will differ between us. 32 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,000 And these mutations accumulate 33 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:19,000 approximately as a function of time. 34 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,000 So if we add in a chimpanzee here, we will see more differences. 35 00:01:22,000 --> 00:01:25,000 Approximately one letter in a hundred 36 00:01:25,000 --> 00:01:27,000 will differ from a chimpanzee. 37 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:29,000 And if you're then interested in the history 38 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:31,000 of a piece of DNA, or the whole genome, 39 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:34,000 you can reconstruct the history of the DNA 40 00:01:34,000 --> 00:01:36,000 with those differences you observe. 41 00:01:36,000 --> 00:01:40,000 And generally we depict our ideas about this history 42 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:42,000 in the form of trees like this. 43 00:01:42,000 --> 00:01:44,000 In this case, it's very simple. 44 00:01:44,000 --> 00:01:46,000 The two human DNA sequences 45 00:01:46,000 --> 00:01:49,000 go back to a common ancestor quite recently. 46 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:53,000 Farther back is there one shared with chimpanzees. 47 00:01:53,000 --> 00:01:56,000 And because these mutations 48 00:01:56,000 --> 00:01:58,000 happen approximately as a function of time, 49 00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,000 you can transform these differences 50 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,000 to estimates of time, 51 00:02:02,000 --> 00:02:04,000 where the two humans, typically, 52 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:08,000 will share a common ancestor about half a million years ago, 53 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:10,000 and with the chimpanzees, 54 00:02:10,000 --> 00:02:13,000 it will be in the order of five million years ago. 55 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:15,000 So what has now happened in the last few years 56 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:17,000 is that there are account technologies around 57 00:02:17,000 --> 00:02:21,000 that allow you to see many, many pieces of DNA very quickly. 58 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:23,000 So we can now, in a matter of hours, 59 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,000 determine a whole human genome. 60 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:29,000 Each of us, of course, contains two human genomes -- 61 00:02:29,000 --> 00:02:32,000 one from our mothers and one from our fathers. 62 00:02:32,000 --> 00:02:36,000 And they are around three billion such letters long. 63 00:02:36,000 --> 00:02:38,000 And we will find that the two genomes in me, 64 00:02:38,000 --> 00:02:40,000 or one genome of mine we want to use, 65 00:02:40,000 --> 00:02:43,000 will have about three million differences 66 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,000 in the order of that. 67 00:02:45,000 --> 00:02:47,000 And what you can then also begin to do 68 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:49,000 is to say, "How are these genetic differences 69 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,000 distributed across the world?" 70 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,000 And if you do that, 71 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:57,000 you find a certain amount of genetic variation in Africa. 72 00:02:57,000 --> 00:03:00,000 And if you look outside Africa, 73 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:03,000 you actually find less genetic variation. 74 00:03:03,000 --> 00:03:05,000 This is surprising, of course, 75 00:03:05,000 --> 00:03:08,000 because in the order of six to eight times fewer people 76 00:03:08,000 --> 00:03:11,000 live in Africa than outside Africa. 77 00:03:11,000 --> 00:03:14,000 Yet the people inside Africa 78 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,000 have more genetic variation. 79 00:03:17,000 --> 00:03:19,000 Moreover, almost all these genetic variants 80 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,000 we see outside Africa 81 00:03:21,000 --> 00:03:23,000 have closely related DNA sequences 82 00:03:23,000 --> 00:03:25,000 that you find inside Africa. 83 00:03:25,000 --> 00:03:27,000 But if you look in Africa, 84 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:30,000 there is a component of the genetic variation 85 00:03:30,000 --> 00:03:33,000 that has no close relatives outside. 86 00:03:33,000 --> 00:03:36,000 So a model to explain this 87 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:39,000 is that a part of the African variation, but not all of it, 88 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:43,000 [has] gone out and colonized the rest of the world. 89 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:47,000 And together with the methods to date these genetic differences, 90 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:49,000 this has led to the insight 91 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:51,000 that modern humans -- 92 00:03:51,000 --> 00:03:54,000 humans that are essentially indistinguishable from you and me -- 93 00:03:54,000 --> 00:03:57,000 evolved in Africa, quite recently, 94 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,000 between 100 and 200,000 years ago. 95 00:04:01,000 --> 00:04:05,000 And later, between 100 and 50,000 years ago or so, 96 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,000 went out of Africa 97 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,000 to colonize the rest of the world. 98 00:04:09,000 --> 00:04:11,000 So what I often like to say 99 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,000 is that, from a genomic perspective, 100 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:15,000 we are all Africans. 101 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:18,000 We either live inside Africa today, 102 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:20,000 or in quite recent exile. 103 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Another consequence 104 00:04:22,000 --> 00:04:25,000 of this recent origin of modern humans 105 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,000 is that genetic variants 106 00:04:27,000 --> 00:04:29,000 are generally distributed widely in the world, 107 00:04:29,000 --> 00:04:31,000 in many places, 108 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:34,000 and they tend to vary as gradients, 109 00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:38,000 from a bird's-eye perspective at least. 110 00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,000 And since there are many genetic variants, 111 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:43,000 and they have different such gradients, 112 00:04:43,000 --> 00:04:46,000 this means that if we determine a DNA sequence -- 113 00:04:46,000 --> 00:04:49,000 a genome from one individual -- 114 00:04:49,000 --> 00:04:51,000 we can quite accurately estimate 115 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,000 where that person comes from, 116 00:04:53,000 --> 00:04:55,000 provided that its parents or grandparents 117 00:04:55,000 --> 00:04:58,000 haven't moved around too much. 118 00:04:58,000 --> 00:05:00,000 But does this then mean, 119 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,000 as many people tend to think, 120 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:05,000 that there are huge genetic differences between groups of people -- 121 00:05:05,000 --> 00:05:07,000 on different continents, for example? 122 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:10,000 Well we can begin to ask those questions also. 123 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:13,000 There is, for example, a project that's underway 124 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,000 to sequence a thousand individuals -- 125 00:05:15,000 --> 00:05:18,000 their genomes -- from different parts of the world. 126 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:21,000 They've sequenced 185 Africans 127 00:05:21,000 --> 00:05:24,000 from two populations in Africa. 128 00:05:24,000 --> 00:05:27,000 [They've] sequenced approximately equally [as] many people 129 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,000 in Europe and in China. 130 00:05:30,000 --> 00:05:33,000 And we can begin to say how much variance do we find, 131 00:05:33,000 --> 00:05:36,000 how many letters that vary 132 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,000 in at least one of those individual sequences. 133 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:43,000 And it's a lot: 38 million variable positions. 134 00:05:43,000 --> 00:05:46,000 But we can then ask: Are there any absolute differences 135 00:05:46,000 --> 00:05:48,000 between Africans and non-Africans? 136 00:05:48,000 --> 00:05:50,000 Perhaps the biggest difference 137 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:52,000 most of us would imagine existed. 138 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,000 And with absolute difference -- 139 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,000 and I mean a difference 140 00:05:56,000 --> 00:05:59,000 where people inside Africa at a certain position, 141 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,000 where all individuals -- 100 percent -- have one letter, 142 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:06,000 and everybody outside Africa has another letter. 143 00:06:06,000 --> 00:06:09,000 And the answer to that, among those millions of differences, 144 00:06:09,000 --> 00:06:12,000 is that there is not a single such position. 145 00:06:14,000 --> 00:06:16,000 This may be surprising. 146 00:06:16,000 --> 00:06:19,000 Maybe a single individual is misclassified or so. 147 00:06:19,000 --> 00:06:21,000 So we can relax the criterion a bit 148 00:06:21,000 --> 00:06:23,000 and say: How many positions do we find 149 00:06:23,000 --> 00:06:25,000 where 95 percent of people in Africa have 150 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,000 one variant, 151 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,000 95 percent another variant, 152 00:06:29,000 --> 00:06:31,000 and the number of that is 12. 153 00:06:31,000 --> 00:06:33,000 So this is very surprising. 154 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 It means that when we look at people 155 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:38,000 and see a person from Africa 156 00:06:38,000 --> 00:06:41,000 and a person from Europe or Asia, 157 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:45,000 we cannot, for a single position in the genome with 100 percent accuracy, 158 00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,000 predict what the person would carry. 159 00:06:47,000 --> 00:06:49,000 And only for 12 positions 160 00:06:49,000 --> 00:06:53,000 can we hope to be 95 percent right. 161 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,000 This may be surprising, 162 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,000 because we can, of course, look at these people 163 00:06:57,000 --> 00:07:01,000 and quite easily say where they or their ancestors came from. 164 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:03,000 So what this means now 165 00:07:03,000 --> 00:07:05,000 is that those traits we then look at 166 00:07:05,000 --> 00:07:07,000 and so readily see -- 167 00:07:07,000 --> 00:07:10,000 facial features, skin color, hair structure -- 168 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:14,000 are not determined by single genes with big effects, 169 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:17,000 but are determined by many different genetic variants 170 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,000 that seem to vary in frequency 171 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,000 between different parts of the world. 172 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,000 There is another thing with those traits 173 00:07:24,000 --> 00:07:27,000 that we so easily observe in each other 174 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:29,000 that I think is worthwhile to consider, 175 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,000 and that is that, in a very literal sense, 176 00:07:32,000 --> 00:07:35,000 they're really on the surface of our bodies. 177 00:07:35,000 --> 00:07:37,000 They are what we just said -- 178 00:07:37,000 --> 00:07:40,000 facial features, hair structure, skin color. 179 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,000 There are also a number of features 180 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:44,000 that vary between continents like that 181 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,000 that have to do with how we metabolize food that we ingest, 182 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:50,000 or that have to do 183 00:07:50,000 --> 00:07:53,000 with how our immune systems deal with microbes 184 00:07:53,000 --> 00:07:55,000 that try to invade our bodies. 185 00:07:55,000 --> 00:07:57,000 But so those are all parts of our bodies 186 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,000 where we very directly interact with our environment, 187 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:04,000 in a direct confrontation, if you like. 188 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,000 It's easy to imagine 189 00:08:06,000 --> 00:08:08,000 how particularly those parts of our bodies 190 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,000 were quickly influenced by selection from the environment 191 00:08:11,000 --> 00:08:13,000 and shifted frequencies of genes 192 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,000 that are involved in them. 193 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,000 But if we look on other parts of our bodies 194 00:08:18,000 --> 00:08:20,000 where we don't directly interact with the environment -- 195 00:08:20,000 --> 00:08:23,000 our kidneys, our livers, our hearts -- 196 00:08:23,000 --> 00:08:25,000 there is no way to say, 197 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,000 by just looking at these organs, 198 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:30,000 where in the world they would come from. 199 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:33,000 So there's another interesting thing 200 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:36,000 that comes from this realization 201 00:08:36,000 --> 00:08:40,000 that humans have a recent common origin in Africa, 202 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:43,000 and that is that when those humans emerged 203 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,000 around 100,000 years ago or so, 204 00:08:45,000 --> 00:08:47,000 they were not alone on the planet. 205 00:08:47,000 --> 00:08:50,000 There were other forms of humans around, 206 00:08:50,000 --> 00:08:53,000 most famously perhaps, Neanderthals -- 207 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,000 these robust forms of humans, 208 00:08:55,000 --> 00:08:57,000 compared to the left here 209 00:08:57,000 --> 00:09:01,000 with a modern human skeleton on the right -- 210 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:04,000 that existed in Western Asia and Europe 211 00:09:04,000 --> 00:09:06,000 since several hundreds of thousands of years. 212 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,000 So an interesting question is, 213 00:09:08,000 --> 00:09:10,000 what happened when we met? 214 00:09:10,000 --> 00:09:12,000 What happened to the Neanderthals? 215 00:09:12,000 --> 00:09:14,000 And to begin to answer such questions, 216 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:18,000 my research group -- since over 25 years now -- 217 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,000 works on methods to extract DNA 218 00:09:20,000 --> 00:09:22,000 from remains of Neanderthals 219 00:09:22,000 --> 00:09:24,000 and extinct animals 220 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:27,000 that are tens of thousands of years old. 221 00:09:27,000 --> 00:09:30,000 So this involves a lot of technical issues 222 00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:32,000 in how you extract the DNA, 223 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,000 how you convert it to a form you can sequence. 224 00:09:35,000 --> 00:09:37,000 You have to work very carefully 225 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:40,000 to avoid contamination of experiments 226 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,000 with DNA from yourself. 227 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:46,000 And this then, in conjunction with these methods 228 00:09:46,000 --> 00:09:50,000 that allow very many DNA molecules to be sequenced very rapidly, 229 00:09:50,000 --> 00:09:52,000 allowed us last year 230 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:55,000 to present the first version of the Neanderthal genome, 231 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:57,000 so that any one of you 232 00:09:57,000 --> 00:09:59,000 can now look on the Internet, on the Neanderthal genome, 233 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:02,000 or at least on the 55 percent of it 234 00:10:02,000 --> 00:10:05,000 that we've been able to reconstruct so far. 235 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,000 And you can begin to compare it to the genomes 236 00:10:07,000 --> 00:10:10,000 of people who live today. 237 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,000 And one question 238 00:10:12,000 --> 00:10:14,000 that you may then want to ask 239 00:10:14,000 --> 00:10:16,000 is, what happened when we met? 240 00:10:16,000 --> 00:10:18,000 Did we mix or not? 241 00:10:18,000 --> 00:10:20,000 And the way to ask that question 242 00:10:20,000 --> 00:10:23,000 is to look at the Neanderthal that comes from Southern Europe 243 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:25,000 and compare it to genomes 244 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:27,000 of people who live today. 245 00:10:27,000 --> 00:10:29,000 So we then look 246 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:31,000 to do this with pairs of individuals, 247 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,000 starting with two Africans, 248 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:35,000 looking at the two African genomes, 249 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:38,000 finding places where they differ from each other, 250 00:10:38,000 --> 00:10:41,000 and in each case ask: What is a Neanderthal like? 251 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:44,000 Does it match one African or the other African? 252 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:47,000 We would expect there to be no difference, 253 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,000 because Neanderthals were never in Africa. 254 00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:52,000 They should be equal, have no reason to be closer 255 00:10:52,000 --> 00:10:55,000 to one African than another African. 256 00:10:55,000 --> 00:10:57,000 And that's indeed the case. 257 00:10:57,000 --> 00:10:59,000 Statistically speaking, there is no difference 258 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:03,000 in how often the Neanderthal matches one African or the other. 259 00:11:03,000 --> 00:11:05,000 But this is different 260 00:11:05,000 --> 00:11:09,000 if we now look at the European individual and an African. 261 00:11:09,000 --> 00:11:12,000 Then, significantly more often, 262 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:14,000 does a Neanderthal match the European 263 00:11:14,000 --> 00:11:16,000 rather than the African. 264 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:19,000 The same is true if we look at a Chinese individual 265 00:11:19,000 --> 00:11:21,000 versus an African, 266 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,000 the Neanderthal will match the Chinese individual more often. 267 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,000 This may also be surprising 268 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,000 because the Neanderthals were never in China. 269 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:33,000 So the model we've proposed to explain this 270 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,000 is that when modern humans came out of Africa 271 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:38,000 sometime after 100,000 years ago, 272 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:40,000 they met Neanderthals. 273 00:11:40,000 --> 00:11:43,000 Presumably, they did so first in the Middle East, 274 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:45,000 where there were Neanderthals living. 275 00:11:45,000 --> 00:11:47,000 If they then mixed with each other there, 276 00:11:47,000 --> 00:11:49,000 then those modern humans 277 00:11:49,000 --> 00:11:51,000 that became the ancestors 278 00:11:51,000 --> 00:11:53,000 of everyone outside Africa 279 00:11:53,000 --> 00:11:56,000 carried with them this Neanderthal component in their genome 280 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,000 to the rest of the world. 281 00:11:58,000 --> 00:12:01,000 So that today, the people living outside Africa 282 00:12:01,000 --> 00:12:04,000 have about two and a half percent of their DNA 283 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:06,000 from Neanderthals. 284 00:12:06,000 --> 00:12:09,000 So having now a Neanderthal genome 285 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:11,000 on hand as a reference point 286 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,000 and having the technologies 287 00:12:13,000 --> 00:12:15,000 to look at ancient remains 288 00:12:15,000 --> 00:12:17,000 and extract the DNA, 289 00:12:17,000 --> 00:12:21,000 we can begin to apply them elsewhere in the world. 290 00:12:21,000 --> 00:12:24,000 And the first place we've done that is in Southern Siberia 291 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:26,000 in the Altai Mountains 292 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:28,000 at a place called Denisova, 293 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,000 a cave site in this mountain here, 294 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,000 where archeologists in 2008 295 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,000 found a tiny little piece of bone -- 296 00:12:35,000 --> 00:12:37,000 this is a copy of it -- 297 00:12:37,000 --> 00:12:41,000 that they realized came from the last phalanx 298 00:12:41,000 --> 00:12:44,000 of a little finger of a pinky of a human. 299 00:12:44,000 --> 00:12:46,000 And it was well enough preserved 300 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:49,000 so we could determine the DNA from this individual, 301 00:12:49,000 --> 00:12:51,000 even to a greater extent 302 00:12:51,000 --> 00:12:53,000 than for the Neanderthals actually, 303 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:55,000 and start relating it to the Neanderthal genome 304 00:12:55,000 --> 00:12:58,000 and to people today. 305 00:12:58,000 --> 00:13:00,000 And we found that this individual 306 00:13:00,000 --> 00:13:03,000 shared a common origin for his DNA sequences 307 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:07,000 with Neanderthals around 640,000 years ago. 308 00:13:07,000 --> 00:13:10,000 And further back, 800,000 years ago 309 00:13:10,000 --> 00:13:12,000 is there a common origin 310 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:14,000 with present day humans. 311 00:13:14,000 --> 00:13:16,000 So this individual comes from a population 312 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,000 that shares an origin with Neanderthals, 313 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:22,000 but far back and then have a long independent history. 314 00:13:22,000 --> 00:13:24,000 We call this group of humans, 315 00:13:24,000 --> 00:13:26,000 that we then described for the first time 316 00:13:26,000 --> 00:13:28,000 from this tiny, tiny little piece of bone, 317 00:13:28,000 --> 00:13:30,000 the Denisovans, 318 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:33,000 after this place where they were first described. 319 00:13:33,000 --> 00:13:36,000 So we can then ask for Denisovans 320 00:13:36,000 --> 00:13:38,000 the same things as for the Neanderthals: 321 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:42,000 Did they mix with ancestors of present day people? 322 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:44,000 If we ask that question, 323 00:13:44,000 --> 00:13:46,000 and compare the Denisovan genome 324 00:13:46,000 --> 00:13:48,000 to people around the world, 325 00:13:48,000 --> 00:13:50,000 we surprisingly find 326 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,000 no evidence of Denisovan DNA 327 00:13:52,000 --> 00:13:57,000 in any people living even close to Siberia today. 328 00:13:57,000 --> 00:13:59,000 But we do find it in Papua New Guinea 329 00:13:59,000 --> 00:14:03,000 and in other islands in Melanesia and the Pacific. 330 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:05,000 So this presumably means 331 00:14:05,000 --> 00:14:08,000 that these Denisovans had been more widespread in the past, 332 00:14:08,000 --> 00:14:11,000 since we don't think that the ancestors of Melanesians 333 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:13,000 were ever in Siberia. 334 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,000 So from studying 335 00:14:15,000 --> 00:14:18,000 these genomes of extinct humans, 336 00:14:18,000 --> 00:14:21,000 we're beginning to arrive at a picture of what the world looked like 337 00:14:21,000 --> 00:14:24,000 when modern humans started coming out of Africa. 338 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:27,000 In the West, there were Neanderthals; 339 00:14:27,000 --> 00:14:29,000 in the East, there were Denisovans -- 340 00:14:29,000 --> 00:14:31,000 maybe other forms of humans too 341 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,000 that we've not yet described. 342 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:36,000 We don't know quite where the borders between these people were, 343 00:14:36,000 --> 00:14:38,000 but we know that in Southern Siberia, 344 00:14:38,000 --> 00:14:40,000 there were both Neanderthals and Denisovans 345 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,000 at least at some time in the past. 346 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:46,000 Then modern humans emerged somewhere in Africa, 347 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,000 came out of Africa, presumably in the Middle East. 348 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:52,000 They meet Neanderthals, mix with them, 349 00:14:52,000 --> 00:14:55,000 continue to spread over the world, 350 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:58,000 and somewhere in Southeast Asia, 351 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,000 they meet Denisovans and mix with them 352 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:03,000 and continue on out into the Pacific. 353 00:15:03,000 --> 00:15:06,000 And then these earlier forms of humans disappear, 354 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:09,000 but they live on a little bit today 355 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,000 in some of us -- 356 00:15:11,000 --> 00:15:14,000 in that people outside of Africa have two and a half percent of their DNA 357 00:15:14,000 --> 00:15:16,000 from Neanderthals, 358 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 and people in Melanesia 359 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,000 actually have an additional five percent approximately 360 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 from the Denisovans. 361 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,000 Does this then mean that there is after all 362 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:28,000 some absolute difference 363 00:15:28,000 --> 00:15:31,000 between people outside Africa and inside Africa 364 00:15:31,000 --> 00:15:33,000 in that people outside Africa 365 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:35,000 have this old component in their genome 366 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,000 from these extinct forms of humans, 367 00:15:37,000 --> 00:15:39,000 whereas Africans do not? 368 00:15:39,000 --> 00:15:42,000 Well I don't think that is the case. 369 00:15:42,000 --> 00:15:44,000 Presumably, modern humans 370 00:15:44,000 --> 00:15:46,000 emerged somewhere in Africa. 371 00:15:46,000 --> 00:15:49,000 They spread across Africa also, of course, 372 00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:52,000 and there were older, earlier forms of humans there. 373 00:15:52,000 --> 00:15:54,000 And since we mixed elsewhere, 374 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,000 I'm pretty sure that one day, 375 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:58,000 when we will perhaps have a genome 376 00:15:58,000 --> 00:16:00,000 of also these earlier forms in Africa, 377 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,000 we will find that they have also mixed 378 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,000 with early modern humans in Africa. 379 00:16:06,000 --> 00:16:08,000 So to sum up, 380 00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:10,000 what have we learned from studying genomes 381 00:16:10,000 --> 00:16:12,000 of present day humans 382 00:16:12,000 --> 00:16:14,000 and extinct humans? 383 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,000 We learn perhaps many things, 384 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:21,000 but one thing that I find sort of important to mention 385 00:16:21,000 --> 00:16:24,000 is that I think the lesson is that we have always mixed. 386 00:16:24,000 --> 00:16:26,000 We mixed with these earlier forms of humans, 387 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:28,000 wherever we met them, 388 00:16:28,000 --> 00:16:32,000 and we mixed with each other ever since. 389 00:16:32,000 --> 00:16:34,000 Thank you for your attention. 390 00:16:34,000 --> 00:16:40,000 (Applause)