Mary's Room: A philosophical thought experiment - Eleanor Nelsen
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0:07 - 0:11Imagine a brilliant neuroscientist
named Mary. -
0:11 - 0:14Mary lives in a black and white room,
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0:14 - 0:16she only reads black and white books,
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0:16 - 0:21and her screens only display
black and white. -
0:21 - 0:26But even though she has never seen color,
Mary is an expert in color vision -
0:26 - 0:31and knows everything ever discovered
about its physics and biology. -
0:31 - 0:33She knows how different
wavelengths of light -
0:33 - 0:37stimulate three types of cone cells
in the retina, -
0:37 - 0:39and she knows how electrical signals
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0:39 - 0:43travel down the optic nerve
into the brain. -
0:43 - 0:45There, they create patterns
of neural activity -
0:45 - 0:51that correspond to the millions
of colors most humans can distinguish. -
0:51 - 0:52Now imagine that one day,
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0:52 - 0:55Mary's black and white screen
malfunctions -
0:55 - 0:58and an apple appears in color.
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0:58 - 0:59For the first time,
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0:59 - 1:04she can experience something
that she's known about for years. -
1:04 - 1:05Does she learn anything new?
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1:05 - 1:10Is there anything about perceiving color
that wasn't captured in all her knowledge? -
1:10 - 1:13Philosopher Frank Jackson proposed
this thought experiment, -
1:13 - 1:17called Mary's room, in 1982.
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1:17 - 1:21He argued that if Mary already knew
all the physical facts about color vision, -
1:21 - 1:25and experiencing color still teaches
her something new, -
1:25 - 1:27then mental states, like color perception,
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1:27 - 1:32can't be completely described
by physical facts. -
1:32 - 1:33The Mary's room thought experiment
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1:33 - 1:37describes what philosophers call
the knowledge argument, -
1:37 - 1:40that there are non-physical properties
and knowledge -
1:40 - 1:45which can only be discovered
through conscious experience. -
1:45 - 1:48The knowledge argument contradicts
the theory of physicalism, -
1:48 - 1:51which says that everything,
including mental states, -
1:51 - 1:54has a physical explanation.
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1:54 - 1:56To most people hearing Mary's story,
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1:56 - 1:59it seems intuitively obvious
that actually seeing color -
1:59 - 2:03will be totally different
than learning about it. -
2:03 - 2:06Therefore, there must be some quality
of color vision -
2:06 - 2:09that transcends its physical description.
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2:09 - 2:13The knowledge argument isn't just
about color vision. -
2:13 - 2:18Mary's room uses color vision
to represent conscious experience. -
2:18 - 2:22If physical science can't entirely
explain color vision, -
2:22 - 2:27then maybe it can't entirely explain
other conscious experiences either. -
2:27 - 2:29For instance, we could know every
physical detail -
2:29 - 2:33about the structure and function
of someone else's brain, -
2:33 - 2:38but still not understand
what it feels like to be that person. -
2:38 - 2:42These ineffable experiences
have properties called qualia, -
2:42 - 2:48subjective qualities that you can't
accurately describe or measure. -
2:48 - 2:50Qualia are unique to the person
experiencing them, -
2:50 - 2:52like having an itch,
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2:52 - 2:53being in love,
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2:53 - 2:55or feeling bored.
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2:55 - 2:59Physical facts can't completely explain
mental states like this. -
2:59 - 3:02Philosophers interested
in artificial intelligence -
3:02 - 3:04have used the knowledge argument
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3:04 - 3:07to theorize that recreating
a physical state -
3:07 - 3:11won't necessarily recreate
a corresponding mental state. -
3:11 - 3:13In other words,
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3:13 - 3:16building a computer which mimicked
the function of every single neuron -
3:16 - 3:18of the human brain
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3:18 - 3:23won't necessarily create a conscious
computerized brain. -
3:23 - 3:27Not all philosophers agree that
the Mary's room experiment is useful. -
3:27 - 3:30Some argue that her extensive knowledge
of color vision -
3:30 - 3:33would have allowed her to create
the same mental state -
3:33 - 3:35produced by actually seeing the color.
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3:35 - 3:40The screen malfunction wouldn't
show her anything new. -
3:40 - 3:43Others say that her knowledge
was never complete in the first place -
3:43 - 3:46because it was based only
on those physical facts -
3:46 - 3:49that can be conveyed in words.
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3:49 - 3:50Years after he proposed it,
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3:50 - 3:54Jackson actually reversed his own
stance on his thought experiment. -
3:54 - 3:57He decided that even
Mary's experience of seeing red -
3:57 - 4:02still does correspond to a measurable
physical event in the brain, -
4:02 - 4:06not unknowable qualia beyond
physical explanation. -
4:06 - 4:08But there still isn't a definitive answer
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4:08 - 4:11to the question of whether Mary would
learn anything new -
4:11 - 4:13when she sees the apple.
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4:13 - 4:16Could it be that there are fundamental
limits to what we can know -
4:16 - 4:19about something we can't experience?
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4:19 - 4:22And would this mean there are certain
aspects of the universe -
4:22 - 4:25that lie permanently beyond
our comprehension? -
4:25 - 4:31Or will science and philosophy allow
us to overcome our mind's limitations?
- Title:
- Mary's Room: A philosophical thought experiment - Eleanor Nelsen
- Speaker:
- Eleanor Nelsen
- Description:
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View full lesson: http://ed.ted.com/lessons/mary-s-room-a-philosophical-thought-experiment-eleanor-nelsen
Imagine a neuroscientist who has only ever seen black and white things, but she is an expert in color vision and knows everything about its physics and biology. If, one day, she sees color, does she learn anything new? Is there anything about perceiving color that wasn’t captured in her knowledge? Eleanor Nelsen explains what this thought experiment can teach us about experience.
Lesson by Eleanor Nelsen, animation by Maxime Dupuy.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TED-Ed
- Duration:
- 04:52
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