The way we think about charity is dead wrong
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0:01 - 0:04I want to talk about social innovation
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0:04 - 0:08and social entrepreneurship.
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0:08 - 0:11I happen to have triplets.
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0:11 - 0:13They're little. They're five years old.
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0:13 - 0:14Sometimes I tell people I have triplets.
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0:14 - 0:18They say, "Really? How many?"
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0:18 - 0:19Here's a picture of the kids.
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0:19 - 0:23That's Sage and Annalisa and Rider.
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0:23 - 0:28Now, I also happen to be gay.
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0:28 - 0:30Being gay and fathering triplets is by far
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0:30 - 0:33the most socially innovative, socially entrepreneurial thing
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0:33 - 0:35I have ever done.
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0:35 - 0:40(Laughter) (Applause)
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0:40 - 0:43The real social innovation I want to talk about
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0:43 - 0:44involves charity.
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0:44 - 0:47I want to talk about how the things we've been taught to think
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0:47 - 0:50about giving and about charity
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0:50 - 0:52and about the nonprofit sector
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0:52 - 0:55are actually undermining the causes we love
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0:55 - 0:59and our profound yearning to change the world.
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0:59 - 1:02But before I do that, I want to ask if we even believe
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1:02 - 1:05that the nonprofit sector has any serious role to play
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1:05 - 1:07in changing the world.
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1:07 - 1:11A lot of people say now that business will lift up the developing economies,
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1:11 - 1:14and social business will take care of the rest.
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1:14 - 1:16And I do believe that business will move
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1:16 - 1:19the great mass of humanity forward.
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1:19 - 1:23But it always leaves behind that 10 percent or more
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1:23 - 1:28that is most disadvantaged or unlucky.
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1:28 - 1:29And social business needs markets,
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1:29 - 1:32and there are some issues for which you just can't develop
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1:32 - 1:35the kind of money measures that you need for a market.
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1:35 - 1:38I sit on the board of a center for the developmentally disabled,
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1:38 - 1:41and these people want laughter
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1:41 - 1:45and compassion and they want love.
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1:45 - 1:48How do you monetize that?
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1:48 - 1:51And that's where the nonprofit sector
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1:51 - 1:53and philanthropy come in.
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1:53 - 1:57Philanthropy is the market for love.
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1:57 - 1:59It is the market for all those people
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1:59 - 2:02for whom there is no other market coming.
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2:02 - 2:05And so if we really want, like Buckminster Fuller said,
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2:05 - 2:07a world that works for everyone,
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2:07 - 2:09with no one and nothing left out,
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2:09 - 2:12then the nonprofit sector has to be
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2:12 - 2:14a serious part of the conversation.
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2:14 - 2:17But it doesn't seem to be working.
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2:17 - 2:19Why have our breast cancer charities
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2:19 - 2:21not come close to finding a cure for breast cancer,
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2:21 - 2:23or our homeless charities not come close
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2:23 - 2:26to ending homelessness in any major city?
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2:26 - 2:30Why has poverty remained stuck at 12 percent
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2:30 - 2:33of the U.S. population for 40 years?
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2:33 - 2:37And the answer is, these social problems
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2:37 - 2:39are massive in scale,
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2:39 - 2:42our organizations are tiny up against them,
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2:42 - 2:45and we have a belief system that keeps them tiny.
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2:45 - 2:47We have two rulebooks.
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2:47 - 2:49We have one for the nonprofit sector
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2:49 - 2:52and one for the rest of the economic world.
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2:52 - 2:54It's an apartheid, and it discriminates
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2:54 - 2:57against the [nonprofit] sector in five different areas,
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2:57 - 2:59the first being compensation.
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2:59 - 3:02So in the for-profit sector, the more value you produce,
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3:02 - 3:04the more money you can make.
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3:04 - 3:06But we don't like nonprofits to use money
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3:06 - 3:10to incentivize people to produce more in social service.
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3:10 - 3:13We have a visceral reaction to the idea that anyone
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3:13 - 3:16would make very much money helping other people.
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3:16 - 3:18Interesting that we don't have a visceral reaction
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3:18 - 3:22to the notion that people would make a lot of money not helping other people.
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3:22 - 3:24You know, you want to make 50 million dollars
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3:24 - 3:27selling violent video games to kids, go for it.
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3:27 - 3:29We'll put you on the cover of Wired magazine.
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3:29 - 3:31But you want to make half a million dollars
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3:31 - 3:32trying to cure kids of malaria,
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3:32 - 3:40and you're considered a parasite yourself. (Applause)
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3:40 - 3:43And we think of this as our system of ethics,
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3:43 - 3:45but what we don't realize is that this system
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3:45 - 3:48has a powerful side effect, which is,
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3:48 - 3:52it gives a really stark, mutually exclusive choice
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3:52 - 3:55between doing very well for yourself and your family
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3:55 - 3:58or doing good for the world
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3:58 - 4:01to the brightest minds coming out of our best universities,
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4:01 - 4:03and sends tens of thousands of people
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4:03 - 4:05who could make a huge difference in the nonprofit sector
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4:05 - 4:08marching every year directly into the for-profit sector
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4:08 - 4:13because they're not willing to make that kind of lifelong economic sacrifice.
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4:13 - 4:16Businessweek did a survey, looked at the compensation packages
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4:16 - 4:19for MBAs 10 years of business school,
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4:19 - 4:22and the median compensation for a Stanford MBA,
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4:22 - 4:27with bonus, at the age of 38, was 400,000 dollars.
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4:27 - 4:29Meanwhile, for the same year, the average salary
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4:29 - 4:32for the CEO of a $5 million-plus medical charity in the U.S.
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4:32 - 4:37was 232,000 dollars, and for a hunger charity, 84,000 dollars.
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4:37 - 4:39Now, there's no way you're going to get a lot of people
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4:39 - 4:44with $400,000 talent to make a $316,000 sacrifice
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4:44 - 4:48every year to become the CEO of a hunger charity.
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4:48 - 4:51Some people say, "Well, that's just because those MBA types are greedy."
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4:51 - 4:54Not necessarily. They might be smart.
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4:54 - 4:56It's cheaper for that person to donate
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4:56 - 5:00100,000 dollars every year to the hunger charity,
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5:00 - 5:02save 50,000 dollars on their taxes,
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5:02 - 5:06so still be roughly 270,000 dollars a year ahead of the game,
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5:06 - 5:09now be called a philanthropist because they donated
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5:09 - 5:11100,000 dollars to charity,
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5:11 - 5:13probably sit on the board of the hunger charity,
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5:13 - 5:15indeed, probably supervise the poor SOB
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5:15 - 5:18who decided to become the CEO of the hunger charity,
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5:18 - 5:22and have a lifetime of this kind of power and influence
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5:22 - 5:26and popular praise still ahead of them.
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5:26 - 5:29The second area of discrimination is advertising and marketing.
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5:29 - 5:33So we tell the for-profit sector, "Spend, spend, spend on advertising
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5:33 - 5:36until the last dollar no longer produces a penny of value."
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5:36 - 5:40But we don't like to see our donations spent on advertising in charity.
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5:40 - 5:44Our attitude is, "Well, look, if you can get the advertising donated,
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5:44 - 5:47you know, at four o'clock in the morning, I'm okay with that.
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5:47 - 5:49But I don't want my donations spent on advertising.
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5:49 - 5:51I want it go to the needy."
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5:51 - 5:53As if the money invested in advertising
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5:53 - 5:56could not bring in dramatically greater sums of money
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5:56 - 5:58to serve the needy.
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5:58 - 6:00In the 1990s, my company created
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6:00 - 6:03the long distance AIDSRide bicycle journeys
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6:03 - 6:08and the 60-mile-long breast cancer three-day walks,
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6:08 - 6:11and over the course of nine years,
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6:11 - 6:16we had 182,000 ordinary heroes participate,
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6:16 - 6:20and they raised a total of 581 million dollars.
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6:20 - 6:25They raised more money more quickly for these causes
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6:25 - 6:27than any events in history,
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6:27 - 6:30all based on the idea that people are weary
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6:30 - 6:33of being asked to do the least they can possibly do.
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6:33 - 6:35People are yearning to measure
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6:35 - 6:37the full distance of their potential
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6:37 - 6:41on behalf of the causes that they care about deeply.
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6:41 - 6:44But they have to be asked.
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6:44 - 6:45We got that many people to participate
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6:45 - 6:48by buying full-page ads in The New York Times,
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6:48 - 6:51in The Boston Globe, in primetime radio and TV advertising.
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6:51 - 6:53Do you know how many people we would have gotten
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6:53 - 6:56if we put up flyers in the laundromat?
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6:56 - 7:00Charitable giving has remained stuck, in the U.S.,
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7:00 - 7:04at two percent of GDP ever since we started measuring it in the 1970s.
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7:04 - 7:06That's an important fact, because it tells us
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7:06 - 7:09that in 40 years, the nonprofit sector
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7:09 - 7:12has not been able to wrestle any market share
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7:12 - 7:15away from the for-profit sector.
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7:15 - 7:17And if you think about it, how could one sector
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7:17 - 7:20possibly take market share away from another sector
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7:20 - 7:23if it isn't really allowed to market?
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7:23 - 7:25And if we tell the consumer brands,
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7:25 - 7:28"You may advertise all the benefits of your product,"
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7:28 - 7:31but we tell charities, "You cannot advertise all the good that you do,"
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7:31 - 7:35where do we think the consumer dollars are going to flow?
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7:35 - 7:38The third area of discrimination is the taking of risk
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7:38 - 7:42in pursuit of new ideas for generating revenue.
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7:42 - 7:46So Disney can make a new $200 million movie that flops,
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7:46 - 7:48and nobody calls the attorney general.
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7:48 - 7:52But you do a little $1 million community fundraiser
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7:52 - 7:55for the poor, and it doesn't produce a 75 percent profit
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7:55 - 7:57to the cause in the first 12 months,
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7:57 - 7:59and your character is called into question.
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7:59 - 8:02So nonprofits are really reluctant to attempt any brave,
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8:02 - 8:06daring, giant-scale new fundraising endeavors
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8:06 - 8:08for fear that if the thing fails, their reputations
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8:08 - 8:10will be dragged through the mud.
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8:10 - 8:12Well, you and I know when you prohibit failure,
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8:12 - 8:13you kill innovation.
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8:13 - 8:16If you kill innovation in fundraising, you can't raise more revenue.
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8:16 - 8:18If you can't raise more revenue, you can't grow.
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8:18 - 8:23And if you can't grow, you can't possibly solve large social problems.
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8:23 - 8:26The fourth area is time.
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8:26 - 8:30So Amazon went for six years without returning any profit to investors,
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8:30 - 8:32and people had patience.
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8:32 - 8:34They knew that there was a long-term objective down the line
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8:34 - 8:36of building market dominance.
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8:36 - 8:39But if a nonprofit organization ever had a dream
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8:39 - 8:43of building magnificent scale that required that for six years,
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8:43 - 8:45no money was going to go to the needy,
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8:45 - 8:47it was all going to be invested in building this scale,
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8:47 - 8:50we would expect a crucifixion.
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8:50 - 8:52And the last area is profit itself.
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8:52 - 8:55So the for-profit sector can pay people profits
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8:55 - 8:57in order to attract their capital for their new ideas,
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8:57 - 9:00but you can't pay profits in a nonprofit sector,
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9:00 - 9:05so the for-profit sector has a lock on the multi-trillion-dollar capital markets,
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9:05 - 9:07and the nonprofit sector is starved for growth
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9:07 - 9:10and risk and idea capital.
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9:10 - 9:14Well, you put those five things together -- you can't use money
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9:14 - 9:16to lure talent away from the for-profit sector,
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9:16 - 9:18you can't advertise on anywhere near the scale
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9:18 - 9:21the for-profit sector does for new customers,
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9:21 - 9:23you can't take the kinds of risks in pursuit of those customers
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9:23 - 9:25that the for-profit sector takes,
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9:25 - 9:27you don't have the same amount of time to find them
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9:27 - 9:29as the for-profit sector,
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9:29 - 9:31and you don't have a stock market with which to fund any of this,
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9:31 - 9:34even if you could do it in the first place,
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9:34 - 9:36and you've just put the nonprofit sector
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9:36 - 9:39at an extreme disadvantage to the for-profit sector
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9:39 - 9:41on every level.
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9:41 - 9:45If we have any doubts about the effects of this separate rule book,
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9:45 - 9:47this statistic is sobering:
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9:47 - 9:49From 1970 to 2009,
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9:49 - 9:51the number of nonprofits that really grew,
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9:51 - 9:55that crossed the $50 million annual revenue barrier,
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9:55 - 9:57is 144.
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9:57 - 9:59In the same time, the number of for-profits that crossed it
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9:59 - 10:03is 46,136.
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10:03 - 10:06So we're dealing with social problems that are massive in scale,
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10:06 - 10:09and our organizations can't generate any scale.
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10:09 - 10:13All of the scale goes to Coca-Cola and Burger King.
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10:13 - 10:16So why do we think this way?
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10:16 - 10:20Well, like most fanatical dogma in America,
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10:20 - 10:23these ideas come from old Puritan beliefs.
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10:23 - 10:26The Puritans came here for religious reasons, or so they said,
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10:26 - 10:30but they also came here because they wanted to make a lot of money.
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10:30 - 10:32They were pious people but they were also
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10:32 - 10:34really aggressive capitalists,
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10:34 - 10:38and they were accused of extreme forms of profit-making tendencies
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10:38 - 10:40compared to the other colonists.
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10:40 - 10:43But at the same time, the Puritans were Calvinists,
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10:43 - 10:46so they were taught literally to hate themselves.
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10:46 - 10:49They were taught that self-interest was a raging sea
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10:49 - 10:52that was a sure path to eternal damnation.
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10:52 - 10:55Well, this created a real problem for these people, right?
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10:55 - 10:57Here they've come all the way across the Atlantic to make all this money.
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10:57 - 11:01Making all this money will get you sent directly to Hell.
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11:01 - 11:03What were they to do about this?
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11:03 - 11:05Well, charity became their answer.
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11:05 - 11:07It became this economic sanctuary
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11:07 - 11:11where they could do penance for their profit-making tendencies
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11:11 - 11:14at five cents on the dollar.
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11:14 - 11:16So of course, how could you make money in charity
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11:16 - 11:19if charity was your penance for making money?
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11:19 - 11:23Financial incentive was exiled from the realm of helping others
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11:23 - 11:26so that it could thrive in the area of making money for yourself,
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11:26 - 11:29and in 400 years, nothing has intervened
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11:29 - 11:35to say, "That's counterproductive and that's unfair."
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11:35 - 11:39Now this ideology gets policed by this one very dangerous question,
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11:39 - 11:43which is, "What percentage of my donation goes to the cause versus overhead?"
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11:43 - 11:45There are a lot of problems with this question.
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11:45 - 11:47I'm going to just focus on two.
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11:47 - 11:51First, it makes us think that overhead is a negative,
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11:51 - 11:55that it is somehow not part of the cause.
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11:55 - 12:00But it absolutely is, especially if it's being used for growth.
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12:00 - 12:02Now, this idea that overhead is somehow
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12:02 - 12:04an enemy of the cause
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12:04 - 12:07creates this second, much larger problem, which is,
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12:07 - 12:10it forces organizations to go without the overhead things
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12:10 - 12:12they really need to grow
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12:12 - 12:15in the interest of keeping overhead low.
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12:15 - 12:17So we've all been taught that charities should spend
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12:17 - 12:20as little as possible on overhead things like fundraising
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12:20 - 12:24under the theory that, well, the less money you spend on fundraising,
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12:24 - 12:27the more money there is available for the cause.
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12:27 - 12:30Well, that's true if it's a depressing world
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12:30 - 12:33in which this pie cannot be made any bigger.
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12:33 - 12:37But if it's a logical world in which investment in fundraising
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12:37 - 12:40actually raises more funds and makes the pie bigger,
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12:40 - 12:42then we have it precisely backwards,
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12:42 - 12:45and we should be investing more money, not less,
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12:45 - 12:47in fundraising, because fundraising is the one thing
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12:47 - 12:50that has the potential to multiply the amount of money
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12:50 - 12:54available for the cause that we care about so deeply.
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12:54 - 12:57I'll give you two examples. We launched the AIDSRides
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12:57 - 13:00with an initial investment of 50,000 dollars in risk capital.
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13:00 - 13:05Within nine years, we had multiplied that 1,982 times
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13:05 - 13:11into 108 million dollars after all expenses for AIDS services.
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13:11 - 13:13We launched the breast cancer three-days
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13:13 - 13:17with an initial investment of 350,000 dollars in risk capital.
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13:17 - 13:21Within just five years, we had multiplied that 554 times
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13:21 - 13:25into 194 million dollars after all expenses
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13:25 - 13:27for breast cancer research.
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13:27 - 13:30Now, if you were a philanthropist really interested in breast cancer,
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13:30 - 13:31what would make more sense:
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13:31 - 13:35go out and find the most innovative researcher in the world
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13:35 - 13:38and give her 350,000 dollars for research,
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13:38 - 13:42or give her fundraising department the 350,000 dollars
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13:42 - 13:47to multiply it into 194 million dollars for breast cancer research?
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13:47 - 13:512002 was our most successful year ever.
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13:51 - 13:54We netted for breast cancer alone, that year alone,
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13:54 - 13:5871 million dollars after all expenses.
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13:58 - 14:00And then we went out of business,
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14:00 - 14:03suddenly and traumatically.
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14:03 - 14:08Why? Well, the short story is, our sponsor split on us.
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14:08 - 14:10They wanted to distance themselves from us
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14:10 - 14:13because we were being crucified in the media
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14:13 - 14:16for investing 40 percent of the gross in recruitment
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14:16 - 14:19and customer service and the magic of the experience
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14:19 - 14:23and there is no accounting terminology to describe
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14:23 - 14:25that kind of investment in growth and in the future,
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14:25 - 14:30other than this demonic label of overhead.
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14:30 - 14:36So on one day, all 350 of our great employees
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14:36 - 14:40lost their jobs
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14:40 - 14:44because they were labeled overhead.
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14:44 - 14:46Our sponsor went and tried the events on their own.
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14:46 - 14:47The overhead went up.
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14:47 - 14:50Net income for breast cancer research went down
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14:50 - 14:56by 84 percent, or 60 million dollars in one year.
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14:56 - 14:59This is what happens when we confuse
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14:59 - 15:03morality with frugality.
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15:03 - 15:06We've all been taught that the bake sale with five percent overhead
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15:06 - 15:11is morally superior to the professional fundraising enterprise with 40 percent overhead,
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15:11 - 15:14but we're missing the most important piece of information,
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15:14 - 15:18which is, what is the actual size of these pies?
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15:18 - 15:22Who cares if the bake sale only has five percent overhead if it's tiny?
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15:22 - 15:25What if the bake sale only netted 71 dollars for charity
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15:25 - 15:27because it made no investment in its scale
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15:27 - 15:29and the professional fundraising enterprise netted
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15:29 - 15:3271 million dollars because it did?
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15:32 - 15:34Now which pie would we prefer, and which pie
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15:34 - 15:38do we think people who are hungry would prefer?
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15:38 - 15:42Here's how all of this impacts the big picture.
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15:42 - 15:45I said that charitable giving is two percent of GDP in the United States.
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15:45 - 15:48That's about 300 billion dollars a year.
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15:48 - 15:52But only about 20 percent of that, or 60 billion dollars,
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15:52 - 15:54goes to health and human services causes.
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15:54 - 15:57The rest goes to religion and higher education and hospitals
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15:57 - 16:00and that 60 billion dollars is not nearly enough
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16:00 - 16:02to tackle these problems.
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16:02 - 16:04But if we could move charitable giving
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16:04 - 16:10from two percent of GDP up just one step
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16:10 - 16:13to three percent of GDP, by investing in that growth,
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16:13 - 16:17that would be an extra 150 billion dollars a year in contributions,
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16:17 - 16:20and if that money could go disproportionately
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16:20 - 16:22to health and human services charities,
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16:22 - 16:25because those were the ones we encouraged to invest in their growth,
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16:25 - 16:29that would represent a tripling of contributions to that sector.
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16:29 - 16:31Now we're talking scale.
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16:31 - 16:34Now we're talking the potential for real change.
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16:34 - 16:37But it's never going to happen by forcing
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16:37 - 16:39these organizations to lower their horizons
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16:39 - 16:45to the demoralizing objective of keeping their overhead low.
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16:45 - 16:48Our generation does not want its epitaph to read,
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16:48 - 16:51"We kept charity overhead low."
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16:51 - 16:59(Laughter) (Applause)
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16:59 - 17:01We want it to read that we changed the world,
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17:01 - 17:03and that part of the way we did that
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17:03 - 17:06was by changing the way we think about these things.
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17:06 - 17:08So the next time you're looking at a charity,
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17:08 - 17:10don't ask about the rate of their overhead.
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17:10 - 17:12Ask about the scale of their dreams,
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17:12 - 17:16their Apple-, Google-, Amazon-scale dreams,
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17:16 - 17:18how they measure their progress toward those dreams,
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17:18 - 17:21and what resources they need to make them come true
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17:21 - 17:23regardless of what the overhead is.
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17:23 - 17:28Who cares what the overhead is if these problems are actually getting solved?
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17:28 - 17:31If we can have that kind of generosity,
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17:31 - 17:35a generosity of thought, then the non-profit sector can play
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17:35 - 17:39a massive role in changing the world for all those citizens
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17:39 - 17:45most desperately in need of it to change.
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17:45 - 17:50And if that can be our generation's enduring legacy,
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17:50 - 17:53that we took responsibility
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17:53 - 17:56for the thinking that had been handed down to us,
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17:56 - 17:59that we revisited it, we revised it,
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17:59 - 18:03and we reinvented the whole way humanity thinks about changing things,
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18:03 - 18:06forever, for everyone,
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18:06 - 18:11well, I thought I would let the kids sum up what that would be.
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18:11 - 18:13Annalisa Smith-Pallotta: That would be --
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18:13 - 18:15Sage Smith-Pallotta: -- a real social --
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18:15 - 18:17Rider Smith-Pallotta: -- innovation.
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18:17 - 18:20Dan Pallotta: Thank you very much. Thank you.
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18:20 - 18:30(Applause)
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18:30 - 18:34Thank you. (Applause)
- Title:
- The way we think about charity is dead wrong
- Speaker:
- Dan Pallotta
- Description:
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Activist and fundraiser Dan Pallotta calls out the double standard that drives our broken relationship to charities. Too many nonprofits, he says, are rewarded for how little they spend -- not for what they get done. Instead of equating frugality with morality, he asks us to start rewarding charities for their big goals and big accomplishments (even if that comes with big expenses). In this bold talk, he says: Let's change the way we think about changing the world.
- Video Language:
- English
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- closed TED
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Camille Martínez edited English subtitles for The way we think about charity is dead wrong | ||
Krystian Aparta commented on English subtitles for The way we think about charity is dead wrong | ||
Krystian Aparta edited English subtitles for The way we think about charity is dead wrong | ||
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Krystian Aparta
The English transcript was updated on 6/25/2015.