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What young women believe about their own sexual pleasure

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    For several years now,
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    we've been engaged in a national debate
    about sexual assault on campus.
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    No question --
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    it's crucial that young people understand
    the ground rules for consent,
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    but that's where the conversation
    about sex is ending.
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    And in that vacuum of information --
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    the media and the Internet,
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    that new digital street corner --
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    are educating our kids for us.
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    If we truly want young people
    to engage safely, ethically,
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    and yes --
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    enjoyably,
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    it's time to have open honest discussion
    about what happens after "yes,"
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    and that includes breaking
    the biggest taboo of all,
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    and talking to young people about
    women's capacity for and entitlement
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    to sexual pleasure.
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    Yeah.
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    (Applause)
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    Come on, ladies.
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    (Applause)
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    I spent three years talking
    to girls ages 15 to 20
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    about their attitudes
    and experience of sex.
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    What I found was
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    that while young women may feel
    entitled to engage in sexual behavior,
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    they don't necessarily
    feel entitled to enjoy it.
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    Take this sophomore
    at the Ivy League college
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    who told me,
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    "I come from a long line
    of smart strong women.
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    My grandmother was a firecracker,
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    my mom is a professional,
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    my sister and I are loud,
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    and that's our form of feminine power."
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    She then proceeded
    to describe her sex life to me:
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    a series of one-off hookups,
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    starting when she was 13,
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    that were ...
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    not especially responsible,
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    not especially reciprocal
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    and not especially enjoyable.
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    She shrugged.
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    "I guess we girls are just socialized
    to be these docile creatures,
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    who don't express our wants or needs."
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    "Wait a minute," I replied.
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    "Didn't you just tell me what a smart
    strong woman you are?"
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    She hemmed and hawed.
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    "I guess," she finally said,
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    "no one told me that that smart
    strong image applies to sex."
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    I should probably say right up top
    that despite the hype,
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    teenagers are not engaging in intercourse
    more often or at a younger age
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    than they were 25 years ago.
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    They are however,
    engaging in other behavior.
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    And when we ignore that,
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    when we label that as "not sex,"
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    that opens the door to risky
    behavior and disrespect.
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    That's particularly true of oral sex,
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    which teenagers consider to be
    less intimate than intercourse.
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    GIrls would tell me "it's no big deal,"
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    like they'd all read the same
    instruction manual --
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    at least if boys were
    on the receiving end.
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    Young women have lots
    of reasons for participating.
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    It made them feel desired;
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    it was a way to boost social status.
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    Sometimes, it was a way to get out
    of an uncomfortable situation.
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    As a freshman at a West Coast
    college said to me,
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    "A girl will give a guy a blow job
    at the end of the night
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    because she doesn't
    want to have sex with him,
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    and he expects to be satisfied.
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    So, if I want him to leave
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    and I don't want anything to happen ... "
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    I heard so many stories of girls
    performing one-sided oral sex
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    that I started asking,
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    "What if every time you were
    alone with a guy,
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    he told you to get him a glass
    of water from the kitchen,
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    and he never got you a glass of water --
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    or if he did it was like ...
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    'you want me to uh ...?'"
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    You know, totally begrudging.
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    You wouldn't stand for it.
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    But it wasn't always
    that boys didn't want to.
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    It was that girls didn't want them to.
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    Girls expressed a sense of shame
    around their genitals.
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    A sense that they were
    simultaneously icky and sacred.
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    Women's feelings about their genitals
    have been directly linked
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    to their enjoyment of sex.
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    Yet, Debby Herbenick,
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    a researcher at Indiana University,
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    believes that girls' genital
    self-image is under siege,
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    with more pressure than ever
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    to see them as unacceptable
    in their natural state.
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    According to research,
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    about three-quarters of college women
    remove their pubic hair --
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    all of it --
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    at least on occasion,
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    and more than half do so regularly.
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    Girls would tell me that hair
    removal made them feel cleaner,
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    that it was a personal choice.
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    Though, I kind of wondered
    if left alone on a desert island
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    if this was how they would
    choose to spend their time.
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    (Laughter)
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    And when I pushed further,
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    a darker motivation emerged:
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    avoiding humiliation.
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    "Guys act like they
    would be disgusted by it,"
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    one young woman told me.
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    "No one wants to be
    talked about like that."
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    The rising pubic hair removal
    reminded me of the 1920s,
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    when women first started regularly
    shaving their armpits and their legs.
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    That's when flapper dresses
    came into style,
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    and women's limbs were suddenly visible,
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    open to public scrutiny.
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    There's a way that I think
    that this too is a sign
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    that a girl's most intimate part
    is open to public scrutiny,
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    open to critique,
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    to becoming more about how
    it looks to someone else
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    than how it feels to her.
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    The shaving trend has sparked
    another rise in labiaplasty.
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    Labiaplasty, which is the trimming
    of the inner and outer labia,
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    is the fastest-growing cosmetic
    surgery among teenage girls.
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    It rose 80 percent between 2014 and 2015,
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    and whereas girls under 18 comprise
    two percent of all cosmetic surgeries,
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    they are five percent of labiaplasty.
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    The most sought-after look incidentally,
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    in which the outer labia appear
    fused like a clam shell,
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    is called ...
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    wait for it ...
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    "The Barbie."
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    (Groan)
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    I trust I don't have to tell you
    that Barbie is a) made of plastic
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    and b) has no genitalia.
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    (Laughter)
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    The labiaplasty trend
    has become so worrisome
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    that the American College
    of Obstetricians and Gynecologists
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    has issued a statement on the procedure,
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    which is rarely medically indicated,
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    has not been proven safe
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    and whose side effects include
    scarring, numbness, pain
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    and diminished sexual sensation.
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    Now, admittedly,
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    and blessedly,
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    the number of girls involved
    is still quite small,
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    but you could see them
    as canaries in a coal mine,
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    telling us something important
    about the way girls see their bodies.
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    Sara McClellan,
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    a psychologist at the
    University of Michigan,
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    coined what is my favorite phrase ever
    in talking about all of this:
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    "Intimate justice."
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    That's the idea that sex has political
    as well as personal implications,
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    just like, who does
    the dishes in your house,
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    or who vacuums the rug.
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    And it raises similar
    issues about inequality,
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    about economic disparity,
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    violence,
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    phsyical and mental health.
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    Intimate justice asks us to consider
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    who is entitled to engage
    in an experience.
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    Who is entitled to enjoy it?
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    Who is the primary beneficiary?
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    And how does each partner
    define "good enough?"
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    Honestly, I think those questions
    are tricky and sometimes traumatic
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    for adult women to confront,
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    but when we're talking about girls,
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    I just kept coming back to the idea
    that their early sexual experience
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    shouldn't have to be
    something that they get over.
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    In her work,
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    McClellan found that young women
    were more likely than young men
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    to use their partner's pleasure
    as a measure of their satisfaction.
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    So they'd say things like,
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    "If he's sexually satisfied,
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    then I'm sexually satisfied."
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    Young men were more likely to measure
    their satisfaction by their own orgasm.
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    Young women also defined
    bad sex differently.
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    In the largest ever survey
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    ever conducted on American
    sexual behavior,
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    they reported pain in their sexual
    encounters 30 percent of the time.
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    They also used words like "depressing,"
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    "humiliating,"
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    "degrading."
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    The young men never used that language.
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    So when young women report sexual
    satisfaction levels that are equal to
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    or greater than young men's --
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    and they do in research --
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    that can be deceptive.
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    If a girl goes into an encounter
    hoping that it won't hurt,
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    wanting to feel close to her partner,
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    and expecting him to have an orgasm,
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    she'll be satisfied
    if those criteria are met.
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    And there's nothing wrong with wanting
    to feel close to your partner,
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    or wanting him to be happy,
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    and orgasm isn't the only
    measure of an experience ...
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    but absence of pain --
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    that's a very low bar
    for your own sexual fulfillment.
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    Listening to all of this
    and thinking about it,
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    I began to realize that we performed
    a kind of psychological clitoridectomy
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    on American girls.
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    Starting in infancy,
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    parents of baby boys are more likely
    to name all their body parts,
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    at least they'll say,
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    "Here's your pee-pee."
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    Parents of baby girls go right
    from navel to knees,
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    and they leave this whole
    situation in here unnamed.
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    (Laughter)
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    There's no better way to make
    something unspeakable
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    than not to name it.
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    Then kids go into their
    puberty education classes,
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    and they learn that boys have
    erections and ejaculations,
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    and girls have ...
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    periods and unwanted pregnancy.
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    And they see that internal diagram
    of a woman's reproductive system --
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    you know the one that looks
    kind of like a steer head --
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    (Laughter)
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    And it always grays out between the legs.
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    So we never say vulva,
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    we certainly never say clitoris.
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    No surpise,
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    fewer than half of teenage
    girls age 14 to 17
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    have ever masturbated.
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    And then they go into
    their partnered experience,
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    and we expect that somehow
    they'll think sex is about them,
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    that they'll be able to articulate
    their needs, their desires, their limits.
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    It's unrealistic.
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    Here's something though.
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    Girls' investment in their
    partner's pleasure remains
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    regardless of the gender of the partner.
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    So in same-sex encounters,
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    the orgasm gap disappears.
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    And young women climax
    at the same rate as men.
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    Lesbian and bisexual girls would tell me
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    that they felt liberated
    to get off the script --
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    free to create an encounter
    that worked for them.
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    Gay girls also challenged
    the idea of first intercourse
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    as the definition of virginity.
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    Not because intercourse isn't a big deal,
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    but it's worth questioning
    why we consider this one act,
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    which most girls associate
    with discomfort or pain,
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    to be the line in the sand
    of sexual adulthood --
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    so much more meaningful,
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    so much more transformative
    than anything else.
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    And it's worth considering
    how this is serving girls;
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    whether it's keeping them
    safer from disease,
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    coercion, betrayal, assault.
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    Whether it's encouraging
    mutuality and caring;
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    what it means about the way
    they see other sex acts;
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    whether it's giving them more control
    over and joy in their experience,
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    and what it means about gay teens,
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    who can have multiple sex partners
    without heterosexual intercourse.
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    So I asked a gay girl that I met,
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    "How'd you know you weren't
    a virgin anymore?"
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    She said she had to Google it.
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    (Laughter)
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    And Google wasn't sure.
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    (Laughter)
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    She finally decided that she
    wasn't a virgin anymore
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    after she'd had her first
    orgasm with a partner.
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    And I thought --
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    woah.
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    What if just for a second,
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    we imagined that was the definition?
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    Again, not because
    intercourse isn't a big deal --
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    of course it is --
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    but it isn't the only big deal,
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    and rather than thinking about sex
    as a race to a goal,
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    this helps us reconceptualize it
    as a pool of experiences
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    that include warmth, affection, arousal,
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    desire, touch, intimacy.
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    And it's worth asking young people:
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    who's really the more sexually
    experienced person?
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    The one who makes out
    with a partner for three hours
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    and experiments with sensual
    tension and communication,
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    or the one who gets wasted at a party
    and hooks up with a random
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    in order to dump their "virginity"
    before they get to college?
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    The only way that shift
    in thinking can happen though,
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    is if we talk to young people
    more about sex --
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    if we normalize those discussions,
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    integrating them into everyday life,
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    talking about those intimate acts
    in a different way --
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    the way we mostly have changed
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    in the way that we talk about
    women in the public realm.
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    Consider a survey of 300
    randomly chosen girls
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    from a Dutch and an American university,
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    two similar universities,
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    talking about their early
    experience of sex.
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    The Dutch girls embodied everything
    we say we want from our girls.
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    They had fewer negative consequences,
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    like disease, pregnancy, regret --
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    more positive outcomes like being
    able to communicate with their partner,
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    who they said they knew very well;
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    preparing for the experience responsibly;
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    enjoying themselves.
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    What was their secret?
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    The Dutch girls said that their doctors,
    teachers and parents
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    talked to them candidly,
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    from an early age,
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    about sex, pleasure and
    the importance of mutual trust.
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    What's more,
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    while American parents weren't necessarily
    less comfortable talking about sex,
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    we tend to frame those conversations
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    entirely in terms or risk and danger,
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    whereas Dutch parents talk about
    balancing responsibility and joy.
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    I have to tell you,
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    as a parent myself,
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    that hit me hard,
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    becuase I know,
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    had I not delved into that research,
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    I would have talked to my own child
    about contraception,
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    about disease protection,
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    about consent because
    I'm a modern parent,
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    and I would have thought ...
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    job well done.
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    Now, I know that's not enough.
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    I also know what I hope for for our girls.
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    I want them to see sexuality
    as a source of self-knowledge,
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    creativity and communication,
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    despite its potential risks.
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    I want them to be able to revel
    in their bodies' sensuality
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    without being reduced to it.
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    I want them to be able to ask
    for what they want in bed,
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    and to get it.
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    I want them to be safe from
    unwanted pregnancy,
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    disease,
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    cruelty,
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    dehumanization,
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    violence.
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    If they are assualted,
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    I want them to have recourse
    from their schools,
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    their employers,
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    the courts.
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    It's a lot to ask,
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    but it's not too much.
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    As parents, teachers,
    advocates and activists,
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    we have raised a generation
    of girls to have a voice,
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    to expect egalitarian
    treatment in the home,
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    in the classroom,
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    in the workplace.
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    Now it's time to demand
    that intimate justice
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    in their personal lives as well.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
What young women believe about their own sexual pleasure
Speaker:
Peggy Orenstein
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Video Language:
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