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Appello a Beppe Grillo e gli attivisti M5S per il futuro dell'Italia: Democrazia Liquida ADESSO!

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    Hi guys, my name's Federico Pistono and I'd like to talk about something I really care
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    which is the Italian political situation, also because I think that we're really trough an historical moment,
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    and we could be an example for all the civilized world.
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    As you know I'm a 5 Stelle activist since the beginning, and what's going on now is crucial.
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    So, everyone's talking about doing or not doing the deal, [blah blah] which are the points.
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    I don't want to talk about that, I'd like to talk as I've been doing for years and
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    in particular some months ago with a video I made, about the method, that is:
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    even though the M5S talks about collaboration, participation and choice from the base
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    this does happen in municipalities and regions where M5S has some representants
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    and this is something extraordinary, that NOBODY ELSE does
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    however at the national level this thing doesn't happen, and this is why we have these
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    huge discussions: 10.000 comments on facebook, 20.000 comments on Grillo's blog
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    450 answers on "La Cosa"'s videos, others on twitter...
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    Is it really possible that we still don't have a national platform like Liquid Feedback, Airesis, or a wiki
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    where we can discuss together about the program, projects and decisions?
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    I mean, they've been saying for years that "we'll do that!"(3x) and it still didn't happen.
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    It was already a shame that we didn't have it to lay down the electoral program, and now that
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    we have people going into the parliament and represent us, and we've become the
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    first political power in the country, and that we've made all our electoral campaign saying
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    "there will be democracy from the base, participated"
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    well we still don't have these instruments and decisions are taken...
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    well, we don't know how
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    one or two people that say "we do that way" or the other, and then 50.000 people lost in the blog
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    and people goes crazy when somebody starts a petition
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    they say "ohh she's from Pirate Party", and then actually she...
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    this is what's called "character assassination"
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    we attack this poor woman that, by the way, from what I've seen belonged to the other Pirate Party
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    the one that has many points in common with M5S
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    and that by the way Rick Falkvinge, who started swedish Pirate Party, baptised M5S
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    when it was created. So I don't know if you get it, they looked for her address, they said they'd kill her,
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    really crazy things! Guys, let's take a deep breath
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    let's say: "we need to make some decisions together"
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    "in a collaborative way", we had this need years ago, it was a HUGE need few months ago, and now
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    it's unacceptable that we don't have such a platform.
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    In the last post Beppe said "they're working on it"...
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    4 years they've been saying that, and also, who is working on that?? Casaleggio and so on...
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    Let's make it in community, managed by the community like Wikipedia. Is it that hard?
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    There are hundreds of people offering their efforts for free.
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    We made some encounters, talked with activists from Bergamo, Sicily, Puglia,
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    and also developers from Airesis who said they'll change their platform DEPENDING on M5S needs,
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    for free. We have a great knowledge and intellectual power, immense, that we can use for free
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    and we're not using it because the staff won't answer our requests.
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    We've written to hundreds of M5S activists, among which some are in municipal or regional councils,
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    and we've talked even to people elected into the parliament, and everyone agrees with us that
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    we need a platform of this kind, and that it must be managed by the community
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    NOT that Casaleggio will make it someday, with his servers, his ways, his timings
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    who knows where, how, who manages it.
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    It must be made by the community, managed by the community
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    we need it now, we have to do it together
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    and we have to stop to focus on what a random guy says or does, it's foolish,
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    we have to talk about the system and the community. So let's get together and say:
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    Staff.. Beppe, I agree with 99% of what you say. What you say is not what you do!
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    Because you say that the movement makes decision all together, from the base, we discuss,
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    but it's not happening and this thing must change. So please, guys, we have to make them listen us and
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    say: do we all agree? so we have to do it all together as a community.
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    We've created a FB group to discuss and participate, the link is in the video description.
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    Participate, there's a tweet, @DemLiquida (?), which is going around, let's make it Top Trend
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    so that it.... it will explode(!) and come on, let's make us heard, and take the leads of this Italy.
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    I don't know what's the future of Italy and I don't know what decisions we'll take.
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    But the one thing I know is that if we want to do the right things, we have to take them together.
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    Bye.
Title:
Appello a Beppe Grillo e gli attivisti M5S per il futuro dell'Italia: Democrazia Liquida ADESSO!
Description:

Vogliamo che i cittadini italiani decidano il futuro del loro paese o vogliamo lasciare tutto in mano a pochi?

Partecipa al Gruppo di Lavoro per la Democrazia Liquida 5 Stelle:
https://www.facebook.com/groups/493220350740995/c

Dettagli, documenti e link sul progetto: http://it.federicopistono.org/democraziaLiquida

Quando un paese si trova in grande difficoltà economica, molto spesso regimi autoritari e gruppi estremisti si fanno avanti e raccolgono consensi velocemente, promettendo un vago senso di sicurezza, se solo ci fidiamo di loro e abbandoniamo un po' della nostra libertà.

La storia è fin troppo chiara a riguardo, queste storie non finiscono mai bene. Oggi, per la prima volta nella storia registrata, l'Italia ha una grandissima opportunità: quella di passare ad un sistema dove l'onestà diventa di moda, dove i cittadini partecipano attivamente alla vita politica e prendono decisioni utilizzando l'intelligenza collettiva, dove le parole chiave sono collaborazione, partecipazione, comunità, sostenibilità, felicità; invece di lavoro, crescita, finanza, segretezza, appalti, cemento, tangenti e corruzione.

Il Movimento 5 Stelle ha come obiettivo proprio la transizione verso questo nuovo sistema e a livello locale hanno già dimostrato di essere in grado di farlo, rifiutando i rimborsi elettorali, riducendosi lo stipendio e parlando direttamente con i cittadini, prendendo decisioni insieme.

A livello nazionale, purtroppo, questo non avviene. Tra le piattaforme di collaborazione più utilizzate (Liquid Feedback, Airesis, MediaWiki), il movimento nazionale non ne adotta alcuna, e le decisioni sembrano venire sempre dai garante e ispiratori politici Beppe Grillo e Giancarlo Casaleggio, piuttosto che dai cittadini e gli attivisti.

Noi vogliamo cambiare questa situazione! Da diversi anni moltissimi attivisti stanno lavorando affinché anche a livello nazionale si adottino gli strumenti democratici e partecipativi che il movimento dice di voler adottare.

p.s. Per chi se lo stesso chiedendo, abbiamo già fatto degli incontri con gruppi di attivisti 5 stelle di tutta Italia e abbiamo contattato lo staff diverse volte negli ultimi mesi, portando alla luce la nostra determinazione nello sviluppare una piattaforma nazionale insieme, mettendoci a disposizione perché questo avvenga, collaborando insieme allo staff.

Dopo mesi di email e richieste, nessuno delle centinaia di attivisti ha ancora ricevuto alcun tipo di risposta.

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Video Language:
Italian
Duration:
06:11
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