Sidelined | Jenny Sealey | TEDxExeter
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0:11 - 0:16Good afternoon, I am Jenny.
I'm deaf, with speech. -
0:16 - 0:20I'm the mother of a glorious
20-year-old son called Jonah. -
0:20 - 0:25My mum did say I could do whatever I want,
but my careers officer said: -
0:25 - 0:29"Jenny, you're deaf,
you should be a librarian." -
0:29 - 0:30(Laughter)
-
0:30 - 0:35But I'm not, I'm the Artistic Director
of Graeae Theatre Company. -
0:35 - 0:38It is the best job in the world!
-
0:38 - 0:41I've got a cracking team
back in the office, -
0:41 - 0:44and I work with
the most extraordinary cohort -
0:44 - 0:46of deaf and disabled artists,
-
0:46 - 0:49and we put them center stage.
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0:49 - 0:51I love my job.
-
0:52 - 0:55What I'm going to do this afternoon,
-
0:55 - 0:58it's just a few soundbites
and the personal stories about me -
0:58 - 1:01and some of my deaf and disabled artists.
-
1:01 - 1:05About what it's like
working in this current climate. -
1:05 - 1:10Behind me in a minute,
there'll be a film showing. -
1:10 - 1:15This group of people were
my 44 deaf and disabled trainees. -
1:15 - 1:17We trained them up
for the Paralympics -
1:17 - 1:20to be center stage in that stadium.
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1:22 - 1:25This lot, and me, are dependent on
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1:25 - 1:28two governmental schemes to support us:
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1:28 - 1:32Access to Work
and Independent Living Fund. -
1:33 - 1:38Access to Work is
the government's best kept secret. -
1:38 - 1:41It was, it is, and I hope
it'll continue to be -
1:41 - 1:45the most fantastic scheme
which enables me and other deaf people, -
1:45 - 1:51and other disabled people
to enter the work force as full and equal, -
1:54 - 1:57to ful-fill - Why do I use words? -
(Laughter) -
1:57 - 2:00to fulfill our role with equality.
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2:00 - 2:03For me, it means I can have
the glorious Steve and Jeni -
2:03 - 2:05who you've all been watching today.
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2:05 - 2:08It means I can access TED Talks.
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2:09 - 2:13When deaf and disabled people
are working, they come off benefits. -
2:13 - 2:18There are about 37,000 people
who use Access to Work. -
2:18 - 2:22So we're off benefits,
we're working, we pay our taxes. -
2:22 - 2:26And in turn, we also employ
sign language interpreters, -
2:26 - 2:28support workers, and all the rest of it.
-
2:28 - 2:30And in turn, they pay their taxes.
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2:30 - 2:33Steve, Jen, do you pay your taxes?
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2:33 - 2:34(Laughter)
-
2:34 - 2:36Phew! Thank God for that!
-
2:36 - 2:38So that's Access to Work.
-
2:38 - 2:42The Independent Living Fund
is exactly what it stands for. -
2:42 - 2:45It's a fund to allow disabled people
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2:45 - 2:49to live independently
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2:49 - 2:53and choose their support worker.
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2:54 - 2:59But in December 2012, Esther McVey,
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2:59 - 3:02who was the Under Secretary of State
for Disabled People, -
3:02 - 3:04announced, just out of the blue,
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3:04 - 3:07the Independent Living Fund
was going to close. -
3:08 - 3:12It's going to close in June 2015,
-
3:12 - 3:14six weeks away.
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3:14 - 3:19It is now going to be managed
by the local authorities. -
3:19 - 3:23We all know that local authorities
are being cut to Smithers. -
3:23 - 3:27So how are they going to absorb
the cost of this, I really do not know. -
3:28 - 3:33The pot for Independent Living fund
is 320 million [pounds]. -
3:34 - 3:40And a weekly package
is around £346 a week per person. -
3:41 - 3:45That compares very favorably
with how much it costs -
3:45 - 3:49for one person per week
in a residential care home. -
3:49 - 3:53That cost is £3,500 a week.
-
3:53 - 3:57£346 per week, £3,500 a week,
-
3:57 - 4:00we can all do the maths can't we?
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4:02 - 4:05It's a very young fund actually.
-
4:05 - 4:10Only 8.7% of people who use this
are over the age of 65. -
4:12 - 4:17The closure of this fund
is breaching Human Rights, -
4:17 - 4:21Article number 19,
"A right to independent living", -
4:21 - 4:26Article 28, "The right for an adequate
standard of living and protection". -
4:29 - 4:32When Bradley Hemmings and I
started to do our work -
4:32 - 4:36on the Paralympic Opening Ceremony
of course we registered Stephen Hawking. -
4:36 - 4:40Professor Stephen Hawking
gave us our very first quote, -
4:40 - 4:42I love it, and I use it a lot:
-
4:42 - 4:48"Don't look down at your toes,
look up at the stars. Be curious." -
4:48 - 4:49Well, I am!
-
4:49 - 4:53I am very curious to know
why deaf and disabled people -
4:53 - 4:57are considered second class citizens,
why we are ghettoized, -
4:57 - 5:01discriminated against
and deemed worthless. -
5:01 - 5:04Can you just think for one single moment
-
5:04 - 5:07if Stephen Hawking had been told
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5:07 - 5:09that they couldn't meet his access costs,
-
5:09 - 5:14because of his physicality, his disability
he shouldn't be allowed to be a scientist. -
5:14 - 5:18We wouldn't know about
black holes or Hawking radiation, -
5:18 - 5:21we would not know about
our cosmic Universe. -
5:21 - 5:24If Beethoven had stopped composing
when he became deaf, -
5:24 - 5:27we wouldn't have
the 9th Symphony, "Ode to joy". -
5:28 - 5:32Roosevelt, if he hadn't been able
to stand for president, -
5:32 - 5:35because of his paralysis,
-
5:35 - 5:38he would not have got America
out of the depression, -
5:38 - 5:41and millions would not have benefited
from his New Deal scheme. -
5:43 - 5:49And Frida Kahlo, can we imagine
not having the artwork of Frida Kahlo? -
5:50 - 5:54We have so much to put
in to the fabric of civilization. -
5:55 - 5:58I've been battling personally
with Access to Work -
5:58 - 6:00for the last 18 months.
-
6:00 - 6:03My first letter was, "Dear Jenny,
-
6:03 - 6:08your hours of sign language provision
is 35 hours per week. -
6:08 - 6:12We are changing that now
to 72 hours per month. -
6:12 - 6:16Also, you are not allowed to use
-
6:16 - 6:19fully qualified level 6
sign language interpreters. -
6:19 - 6:22because your work is not deemed
'jargon based' enough." -
6:22 - 6:25Excuse me? I only work with level 6.
-
6:25 - 6:27(Laughter)
-
6:28 - 6:32"Dear Mr. S, yes, we know
you have a mobility impairment, -
6:32 - 6:35but can't you get a friend to help?"
-
6:35 - 6:38"Dear Mr. K, your ILF is being cut."
-
6:38 - 6:43"Dear Ms. G, your lip speaker hours
of 23 hours a week -
6:43 - 6:46are now going to be 23 hours a year."
-
6:48 - 6:53"Hello, is this Access to Work, this is
Graeae's Access Coordinator speaking, -
6:53 - 6:57who wanted to know about BSL provision
for some of our deaf actors." -
6:57 - 7:00"Hello, yes, this is
Access to Work. What's BSL?" -
7:00 - 7:02(laughter)
-
7:02 - 7:04I mean, hello?!
-
7:04 - 7:07In this country, there are
1,900 interpreters, -
7:07 - 7:09that includes trainee Interpreters,
-
7:09 - 7:13but 48% of them are thinking of quitting
-
7:13 - 7:18because the deaf person can't guarantee
to get their access support covered. -
7:18 - 7:20So we're going to become like Thailand,
-
7:20 - 7:24where there are only 20 interpreters
for the whole country. -
7:25 - 7:29Thailand, and other countries,
because of cultural beliefs -
7:29 - 7:34think that deaf and disabled people
did something very evil, something bad, -
7:34 - 7:36something sinful in a past life,
-
7:36 - 7:40and that's why we've born
into this life, disabled. -
7:40 - 7:42And you may remember,some of you,
-
7:42 - 7:47our very own England manager Glenn Hoddle
had that same philosophy. -
7:50 - 7:55I do find it sad that my global network
with my deaf and disabled community -
7:55 - 7:58is founded upon a shared experience
-
7:58 - 8:02of being discriminated against,
ghettoized, and sidelined. -
8:02 - 8:05We have to have skin so thick
-
8:05 - 8:09to put up with the crass attitudes
and crass comments. -
8:10 - 8:14A Bangladeshi activist, blind,
was doing some white cane training -
8:14 - 8:17in the Government's building in Bangla.
-
8:17 - 8:20He arrives, the government
people give him money. -
8:20 - 8:23They think he's a beggar
because he's blind. -
8:23 - 8:26In Africa, so much work is being done
-
8:26 - 8:29for those families who give birth
to a disabled baby -
8:29 - 8:32for that baby to not be deemed
a shame or an embarrassment, -
8:32 - 8:36for that baby to be
the glorious bundle of joy that it is. -
8:36 - 8:41And here, last year, Graeae did
a co-production of Threepenny Opera, -
8:41 - 8:44an audience member was very shocked;
-
8:44 - 8:47he thought all
the deaf and disabled actors -
8:47 - 8:50busking outside in the foyer
before the show -
8:50 - 8:52were real buskers
-
8:52 - 8:55not that they would be actors in the show.
-
8:55 - 8:58So her bottom nearly fell out
when she saw them on the stage, -
8:58 - 9:00she was like: "Oh my God,
stage management, -
9:00 - 9:03those disabled people are on the stage!"
-
9:03 - 9:04I love that story.
-
9:04 - 9:06(Laughter)
-
9:06 - 9:08"Dear Jenny, I'm M.
-
9:10 - 9:12This is what my care package
will now look like. -
9:12 - 9:17if it's only social services with
no support from Independent Living Fund. -
9:19 - 9:22I will be able to have
overnight, every night, -
9:22 - 9:26a support worker who will put me
to bed and wake me up in the morning, -
9:28 - 9:33at lunchtime someone else will come in,
give me my lunch and a cup of tea -
9:33 - 9:36and in the evening come
and give me my dinner. -
9:37 - 9:39That's every day.
-
9:39 - 9:44Per week, I will have support
for 7 hours of social activity, -
9:44 - 9:4690 minutes for shopping,
-
9:46 - 9:5145 minutes for ironing
- I don't quite get that one - -
9:51 - 9:56and I will have two 15-minute slots
for a full-body shower. -
10:00 - 10:03On a daily basis, between 9 and midday,
-
10:03 - 10:08I will have no access to go
to the bathroom, as and when I need to. -
10:08 - 10:12So when someone
arrives at 12, I will be wet, -
10:12 - 10:16so most of their time will be taken
bathing me and changing me. -
10:16 - 10:21So I'll only have time for a sandwich,
and the same will be in the evening. -
10:22 - 10:26I will be wet, I'll need to be changed,
and then it'll be a microwave meal -
10:26 - 10:29because there's no more
time left for cooking. -
10:29 - 10:30That will be my life.
-
10:31 - 10:34I need the independence
to go to the bathroom -
10:34 - 10:36when I want to go to the bathroom!"
-
10:36 - 10:39My friend, an actress I work with,
-
10:39 - 10:42who has been campaigning and fighting
for the survival of the ILF, -
10:42 - 10:46when I said to her, "Sophie, you've been
at residential school all your life -
10:46 - 10:49you don't want to go back
to a residential care home, do you?" -
10:49 - 10:53She said, "Jen, this is not
on my radar. Jen, it can't be. -
10:53 - 10:57We've been fighting for thirty-odd years.
No. No, it's not going to happen. -
10:57 - 10:59It can't happen."
-
10:59 - 11:03"Dear Jenny, I'm a deaf graduate.
-
11:03 - 11:06I've just got a first
in Business and International Studies. -
11:06 - 11:08I've just had my first job.
-
11:08 - 11:13Access to Work gave me 6 hours a day,
5 days a week so I could do my job. -
11:14 - 11:17I've just got a brand new job,
I reapplied to Access to Work. -
11:18 - 11:21They've given me 3 hours a week.
-
11:22 - 11:23I've lost my job."
-
11:24 - 11:27And for every deaf person
that loses their job, -
11:27 - 11:30so does a sign language interpreter,
or two sign language interpreters. -
11:30 - 11:34So the unemployment statistics
are getting two for the price of one. -
11:34 - 11:36Also, this one:
-
11:36 - 11:42"Dear Jenny, Access to Work don't think
it's relevant for me to have access." -
11:42 - 11:45"Dear Ms. M, we don't think
you need access. -
11:45 - 11:49Yes, you have a brain injury
and a mental health problem, -
11:49 - 11:51but you are aware of it."
-
11:52 - 11:56Also, another one,
this is actually the RNIB. -
11:56 - 11:58My blind friend phones up:
-
11:58 - 12:01"Hello RNIB, my dog had a cone
because he's had an ear operation. -
12:01 - 12:03He's managed to get the cone off.
-
12:03 - 12:07He's been scratching his ear,
I think there's blood everywhere. -
12:07 - 12:08What do I do? Help!"
-
12:08 - 12:13"Oh dear, that sounds awful.
Well, there's a number on his collar." -
12:13 - 12:14(Laughter)
-
12:14 - 12:19"How do I access that number? I'm blind!"
-
12:20 - 12:23And the government framework,
at the moment, -
12:23 - 12:26for access of deaf-blind people
-
12:26 - 12:30is that they can use
sign language interpreters on a screen. -
12:31 - 12:34Deaf-blind sign language
is a tactile language. -
12:34 - 12:38How you're tactile
with a video screen, God only knows. -
12:38 - 12:40I'm very curious about all of this.
-
12:40 - 12:42I'm curious about
-
12:42 - 12:46how do they make these decisions
to make all these cuts? How?! -
12:46 - 12:51I'm also curious about why people think
they can say what they do to us? -
12:53 - 12:57"Oh, with that arm,"
- one of the artists in the picture - -
12:57 - 13:00with that arm darling,
we'd never have you on our stage. -
13:02 - 13:06Jenny, Lorca didn't write 'Blood wedding'
for people like you to be in it." -
13:06 - 13:09Well, I'm sorry,
but when someone says no, I do it. -
13:09 - 13:12So, we do have a production
of Lorca's "Blood wedding" -
13:12 - 13:14on at the Everyman,
-
13:14 - 13:17and it's on tonight,
and the last night is tomorrow. -
13:17 - 13:20"Dear Jenny, don't you have
your own stages to go to?" -
13:20 - 13:23Yes we do, the Everyman Liverpool.
-
13:23 - 13:26"Dear Jenny, don't you see
-
13:26 - 13:29it's much more palatable
-
13:29 - 13:32when non-disabled people play
disabled characters?" -
13:32 - 13:33(Laughter)
-
13:33 - 13:38And this is my bugbear
which I've talked about a lot since 2012. -
13:38 - 13:42My glorious para-athletes,
para-performers, -
13:42 - 13:46everything about the Paralympics,
was just glorious, -
13:46 - 13:50and I really thought that phone
would be ringing off the hook; -
13:50 - 13:52and it did, Channel 4 phoned and said
-
13:52 - 13:56- well, I didn't do that,
they had to be emailing me in the end - -
13:56 - 13:59but they said, "Dear Jenny,
the Paralympics was fantastic! -
13:59 - 14:04Please could you put forward
some of your deaf, disabled professionals -
14:04 - 14:07and volunteer cast
for our very empowering programme, -
14:07 - 14:09The Undateables."
-
14:09 - 14:11Have you seen it?
-
14:11 - 14:13It's car crash television.
-
14:13 - 14:18It's sick, disgusting, and I'm hell bent
on getting it eradicated, -
14:18 - 14:21and I'd like you to join me on that.
-
14:21 - 14:23The other thing is, at the moment,
-
14:23 - 14:27Mark Harper has put a cap on support,
- he's the Minister for disabled people - -
14:27 - 14:29has put a cap on access support.
-
14:29 - 14:32So, I'm only going to be able to do
-
14:32 - 14:36about 60% of my job
with full and equal access. -
14:37 - 14:41I don't know how to run a theatre company,
be the Chief Executive of Graeae, -
14:41 - 14:46be the Artistic Director of Graeae,
with only 60% of support. -
14:46 - 14:49So, because I'm running out of time now,
-
14:49 - 14:53I ask all of you, you will have deaf
friends, and family, and colleagues, -
14:53 - 14:56please make yourself familiar
with all the issues -
14:56 - 14:59in and around Access to Work
and the Independent Living Fund, -
14:59 - 15:04and join our campaign to try
and overturn these crass things. -
15:04 - 15:05Because, I'm sorry,
-
15:05 - 15:10I have a lot to give to society
and so have all of my lot, -
15:10 - 15:12and I'm damned
if we're going to be sidelined. -
15:12 - 15:14Thank you.
-
15:14 - 15:16(Applause)
- Title:
- Sidelined | Jenny Sealey | TEDxExeter
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This talk was given at a local TEDx event, produced independently of the TED Conferences.
Disability does not occur because someone has done something wrong. So how, instead of being vilified and treated as beggars, can disabled people be enabled in their efforts to give their great contributions to society? - Video Language:
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