The economic injustice of plastic | Van Jones | TEDxGreatPacificGarbagePatch
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0:21 - 0:22Ta-da!
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0:22 - 0:24(Laughter)
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0:25 - 0:26I am honored to be here,
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0:26 - 0:28and I'm honored to talk about this topic,
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0:28 - 0:30which I think is of grave importance.
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0:30 - 0:31We've been talking a lot
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0:31 - 0:37about the horrific impacts of plastic
on the planet and on other species, -
0:37 - 0:39but plastic hurts people, too...
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0:40 - 0:41Especially poor people.
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0:42 - 0:45And both in the production of plastic,
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0:45 - 0:48the use of plastic
and the disposal of plastic, -
0:48 - 0:51the people who have
the bull's-eye on their foreheads -
0:52 - 0:53are poor people.
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0:55 - 0:57People got very upset
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0:57 - 1:00when the BP oil spill happened,
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1:00 - 1:01for very good reason.
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1:02 - 1:03People thought, "Oh, my God.
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1:03 - 1:06This is terrible, this oil...
It's in the water. -
1:06 - 1:10It's going to destroy
the living systems there. -
1:10 - 1:11People are going to be hurt.
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1:11 - 1:13This is a terrible thing,
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1:13 - 1:15this oil is going to hurt
the people in the Gulf." -
1:15 - 1:17What people don't think about is:
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1:17 - 1:19What if the oil had made it
safely to shore? -
1:20 - 1:23What if the oil actually got
where it was trying to go? -
1:23 - 1:27Not only would it have been burned
in engines and added to global warming, -
1:27 - 1:31but there's a place called "Cancer Alley,"
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1:31 - 1:33and the reason it's called "Cancer Alley"
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1:33 - 1:36is because the petrochemical industry
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1:36 - 1:38takes that oil and turns it into plastic
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1:38 - 1:40and in the process, kills people.
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1:40 - 1:43It shortens the lives of the people
who live there in the Gulf. -
1:43 - 1:47So oil and petrochemicals are not
just a problem when there's a spill; -
1:47 - 1:49they're a problem when there's not.
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1:49 - 1:51And what we don't often appreciate
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1:51 - 1:53is the price that poor people pay
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1:53 - 1:55for us to have these disposable products.
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1:56 - 1:58The other thing
we often don't appreciate is, -
1:58 - 2:01it's not just at the point of production
that poor people suffer. -
2:01 - 2:03Poor people also suffer
at the point of use. -
2:04 - 2:06Those of us who earn
a certain income level, -
2:06 - 2:08we have something called choice.
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2:08 - 2:11The reason why you want
to work hard and have a job -
2:11 - 2:12and not be poor and broke
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2:12 - 2:15is so you can have choices,
economic choices. -
2:15 - 2:19We actually get a chance
to choose not to use products -
2:19 - 2:22that have dangerous,
poisonous plastic in them. -
2:22 - 2:25Other people who are poor
don't have those choices. -
2:25 - 2:27So low-income people often are the ones
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2:27 - 2:31who are buying the products that have
those dangerous chemicals in them -
2:31 - 2:32that their children are using.
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2:32 - 2:36Those are the people who wind up
ingesting a disproportionate amount -
2:36 - 2:38of this poisonous plastic in using it.
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2:39 - 2:42And people say, "Well, they should
just buy a different product." -
2:42 - 2:45Well, the problem with being poor
is you don't have those choices. -
2:45 - 2:47You often have to buy
the cheapest products. -
2:47 - 2:50The cheapest products
are often the most dangerous. -
2:50 - 2:52And if that weren't bad enough...
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2:52 - 2:55If it wasn't just the production
of plastic that's giving people cancer -
2:56 - 2:57in places like Cancer Alley,
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2:57 - 3:01and shortening lives and hurting
poor kids at the point of use... -
3:01 - 3:03At the point of disposal,
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3:03 - 3:06once again, it's poor people
who bear the burden. -
3:06 - 3:09Often, we think we're doing a good thing:
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3:09 - 3:12You're in your office, drinking
your bottled water or whatever it is, -
3:13 - 3:15and you think to yourself,
"I'm going to throw this away. -
3:15 - 3:19No... I'm going to be virtuous.
I'm going to put it in the blue bin." -
3:19 - 3:21You think, "I put mine in the blue bin."
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3:21 - 3:24And then you look
at your colleague and say, -
3:24 - 3:28"Why, you cretin!
You put yours in the white bin." -
3:28 - 3:30And we use that as a moral tickle.
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3:30 - 3:32We feel so good about ourselves.
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3:32 - 3:35If we... well, OK, I'm just... me.
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3:35 - 3:37Not you, but I feel this way often.
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3:37 - 3:39(Laughter)
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3:39 - 3:42And so we kind of have
this moral feel-good moment. -
3:42 - 3:45But if we were to be able
to follow that little bottle -
3:45 - 3:47on its journey,
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3:47 - 3:49we would be shocked
to discover that, all too often, -
3:49 - 3:52that bottle is going to be put on a boat,
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3:53 - 3:55it's going to go all the way
across the ocean -
3:56 - 3:57at some expense,
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3:57 - 4:00and it's going to wind up
in a developing country, often China. -
4:01 - 4:03I think in our minds, we imagine
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4:03 - 4:05somebody's going to take
the little bottle and say, -
4:05 - 4:09"Oh, little bottle! We're so happy
to see you, little bottle." -
4:09 - 4:10(Laughter)
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4:10 - 4:13"You've served so well."
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4:13 - 4:14(Laughter)
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4:14 - 4:16He's given a little bottle massage,
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4:16 - 4:17a little bottle medal.
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4:18 - 4:20And they say, "What would
you like to do next?" -
4:20 - 4:22The little bottle says,
"I just don't know ..." -
4:22 - 4:23(Laughter)
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4:23 - 4:26But that's not actually what happens.
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4:27 - 4:28You know?
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4:28 - 4:32That bottle winds up getting burned.
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4:33 - 4:36The recycling of plastic
in many developing countries -
4:36 - 4:40means the incineration of the plastic,
the burning of the plastic, -
4:40 - 4:42which releases incredible toxic chemicals
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4:42 - 4:44and, once again, kills people.
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4:44 - 4:48And so, poor people
who are making these products -
4:48 - 4:50in petrochemical centers
like Cancer Alley, -
4:50 - 4:54poor people who are consuming
these products disproportionately, -
4:54 - 4:57and then poor people who,
even at the tail end of the recycling, -
4:57 - 4:59are having their lives shortened.
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4:59 - 5:02They're all being harmed... greatly...
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5:03 - 5:07By this addiction that we have
to disposability. -
5:07 - 5:10Now, you think to yourself...
I know how you are... -
5:10 - 5:13You say, "That sure is terrible
for those poor people. -
5:15 - 5:18It's just awful. Those poor people.
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5:18 - 5:20I hope someone does
something to help them." -
5:21 - 5:23But what we don't understand is...
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5:24 - 5:26Here we are in Los Angeles.
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5:26 - 5:28We worked very hard
to get the smog reduction -
5:28 - 5:30happening here in Los Angeles.
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5:30 - 5:31But guess what?
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5:31 - 5:34Because they're doing so much
dirty production in Asia now, -
5:34 - 5:38because the environmental laws
don't protect the people in Asia now, -
5:38 - 5:42almost all of the clean air gains
and the toxic air gains -
5:42 - 5:44that we've achieved here in California
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5:44 - 5:47have been wiped out
by dirty air coming over from Asia. -
5:48 - 5:51So we all are being hit.
We all are being impacted. -
5:51 - 5:54It's just that the poor people
get it first and worst. -
5:54 - 5:57But the dirty production,
the burning of toxins, -
5:57 - 5:59the lack of environmental
standards in Asia, -
5:59 - 6:02is actually creating so much
dirty air pollution, -
6:02 - 6:03it's coming across the ocean,
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6:03 - 6:05and has erased our gains
here in California. -
6:05 - 6:07We're back where we were in the 1970s.
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6:07 - 6:09And so we're on one planet,
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6:09 - 6:12and we have to be able to get
to the root of these problems. -
6:12 - 6:15The root of this problem, in my view,
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6:15 - 6:18is the idea of disposability itself.
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6:18 - 6:21You see, if you understand the link
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6:21 - 6:25between what we're doing
to poison and pollute the planet -
6:25 - 6:27and what we're doing to poor people,
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6:27 - 6:32you arrive at a very troubling
but also very helpful insight: -
6:32 - 6:35In order to trash the planet,
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6:35 - 6:36you have to trash people.
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6:37 - 6:40But if you create a world
where you don't trash people, -
6:40 - 6:41you can't trash the planet.
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6:42 - 6:44So now we are at a moment
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6:44 - 6:47where the coming together
of social justice as an idea -
6:47 - 6:49and ecology as an idea,
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6:50 - 6:51we finally can now see
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6:51 - 6:53that they are really,
at the end of the day, one idea. -
6:53 - 6:56And it's the idea that we don't have
disposable anything. -
6:57 - 6:59We don't have disposable resources.
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7:00 - 7:02We don't have disposable species.
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7:02 - 7:05And we don't have
disposable people, either. -
7:05 - 7:07We don't have a throwaway planet,
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7:07 - 7:10and we don't have throwaway
children... it's all precious. -
7:10 - 7:13And as we all begin to come back
to that basic understanding, -
7:13 - 7:16new opportunities for action
begin to emerge. -
7:16 - 7:18Biomimicry,
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7:18 - 7:22which is an emerging science,
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7:22 - 7:25winds up being a very important
social justice idea. -
7:25 - 7:27People who are just
learning about this stuff: -
7:27 - 7:31biomimicry means respecting
the wisdom of all species. -
7:31 - 7:33Democracy, by the way,
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7:33 - 7:36means respecting the wisdom
of all people... we'll get to that. -
7:36 - 7:38But biomimicry means
respecting the wisdom of all species. -
7:38 - 7:41It turns out we're a pretty
clever species. -
7:41 - 7:44We have this big cortex,
we're pretty proud of ourselves. -
7:44 - 7:47But if we want to make something hard,
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7:47 - 7:49we say, "I know! I'm going
to make a hard substance. -
7:49 - 7:53I know! I'm going to get
vacuums and furnaces -
7:53 - 7:54and drag stuff out of the ground
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7:54 - 7:57and get things hot
and poison and pollute... -
7:57 - 8:00But I got this hard thing!"
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8:00 - 8:01(Laughter)
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8:01 - 8:03"I'm so clever!"
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8:03 - 8:06And you look behind you,
and there's destruction all around you. -
8:06 - 8:07But guess what?
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8:07 - 8:10You're so clever,
but you're not as clever as a clam. -
8:10 - 8:11A clamshell is hard.
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8:12 - 8:15There's no vacuums.
There's no big furnaces. -
8:15 - 8:16There's no poison. There's no pollution.
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8:17 - 8:21It turns out that other species
figured out a long time ago -
8:21 - 8:24how to create many of the things we need
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8:24 - 8:27using biological processes
that nature knows how to use well. -
8:27 - 8:31That insight of biomimicry,
of our scientists finally realizing -
8:31 - 8:33that we have as much
to learn from other species... -
8:33 - 8:37I don't mean taking a mouse
and sticking it with stuff. -
8:37 - 8:40I don't mean looking at it from that way,
abusing the little species. -
8:40 - 8:43I mean actually respecting them,
respecting what they've achieved. -
8:43 - 8:45That's called biomimicry,
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8:45 - 8:49and that opens the door
to zero waste production; -
8:49 - 8:51zero pollution production;
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8:51 - 8:53that we could actually enjoy
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8:53 - 8:55a high quality of life,
a high standard of living, -
8:55 - 8:57without trashing the planet.
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8:57 - 9:00Well, that idea of biomimicry,
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9:00 - 9:02respecting the wisdom of all species,
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9:03 - 9:07combined with the idea
of democracy and social justice, -
9:07 - 9:09respecting the wisdom
and the worth of all people, -
9:09 - 9:11would give us a different society.
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9:11 - 9:13We would have a different economy.
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9:13 - 9:16We would have a green society
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9:16 - 9:18that Dr. King would be proud of.
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9:18 - 9:19That should be the goal.
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9:20 - 9:23And the way that we get there
is to first of all recognize -
9:23 - 9:25that the idea of disposability
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9:26 - 9:30not only hurts the species
we've talked about, -
9:30 - 9:32but it even corrupts our own society.
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9:32 - 9:35We're so proud to live here in California.
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9:35 - 9:38We just had this vote,
and everybody's like, -
9:38 - 9:39"Well... not in our state!"
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9:39 - 9:41(Laughter)
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9:41 - 9:44I don't know what those
other states were doing, but ..." -
9:44 - 9:45(Laughter)
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9:45 - 9:47Just so proud.
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9:48 - 9:50And, yeah, I'm proud, too.
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9:50 - 9:52But...
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9:53 - 9:57California, though we lead the world
in some of the green stuff, -
9:57 - 9:59we also, unfortunately, lead the world
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9:59 - 10:00in some of the gulag stuff.
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10:01 - 10:05California has one of the highest
incarceration rates -
10:05 - 10:07of all the 50 states.
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10:07 - 10:09We have a moral challenge
in this movement. -
10:10 - 10:15We are passionate about rescuing
some dead materials from the landfill, -
10:15 - 10:17but sometimes not as passionate
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10:17 - 10:19about rescuing living beings,
living people. -
10:19 - 10:23And I would say
that we live in a country... -
10:23 - 10:25Five percent of the world's population,
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10:25 - 10:2625 percent of the greenhouse gases,
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10:27 - 10:29but also 25 percent
of the world's prisoners. -
10:30 - 10:33One of every four people
locked up anywhere in the world -
10:33 - 10:35is locked up right here
in the United States. -
10:35 - 10:38So that is consistent with this idea
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10:38 - 10:40that disposability
is something we believe in. -
10:41 - 10:42And yet,
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10:43 - 10:48as a movement that has to broaden
its constituency, -
10:48 - 10:49that has to grow,
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10:49 - 10:52that has to reach out
beyond our natural comfort zone, -
10:52 - 10:55one of the challenges
to the success of this movement, -
10:55 - 10:58of getting rid of things like plastic
and helping the economy shift, -
10:58 - 11:01is people look at our movement
with some suspicion. -
11:02 - 11:04And they ask a question,
and the question is: -
11:04 - 11:06How can these people be so passionate?
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11:07 - 11:10A poor person, a low-income person,
somebody in Cancer Alley, -
11:11 - 11:13somebody in Watts,
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11:13 - 11:16somebody in Harlem,
somebody on an Indian reservation, -
11:16 - 11:18might say to themselves...
And rightfully so... -
11:18 - 11:20"How can these people be so passionate
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11:21 - 11:23about making sure
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11:23 - 11:27that a plastic bottle
has a second chance in life, -
11:27 - 11:29or an aluminum can has a second chance,
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11:30 - 11:33and yet, when my child gets in trouble
and goes to prison, -
11:34 - 11:35he doesn't get a second chance?"
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11:35 - 11:38"How can this movement
be so passionate about saying -
11:38 - 11:41we don't have throwaway stuff,
no throwaway dead materials, -
11:41 - 11:43and yet accept throwaway lives
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11:44 - 11:46and throwaway communities
like Cancer Alley?" -
11:46 - 11:51And so, we now get a chance
to be truly proud of this movement. -
11:51 - 11:53When we take on topics like this,
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11:53 - 11:58it gives us that extra call
to reach out to other movements -
11:58 - 12:00and to become more inclusive and to grow,
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12:00 - 12:03and we can finally get out of
this crazy dilemma that we've been in. -
12:04 - 12:06Most of you are good, softhearted people.
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12:07 - 12:10When you were younger,
you cared about the whole world, -
12:10 - 12:13and at some point, somebody said
you had to pick an issue, -
12:14 - 12:16you had to boil your love
down to an issue. -
12:16 - 12:18"Can't love the whole world...
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12:18 - 12:21You've got to work on trees
or you've got to work on immigration. -
12:21 - 12:24You've got to shrink it down
and be about one issue." -
12:24 - 12:27And really, they fundamentally told you,
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12:27 - 12:29"Are you going to hug a tree?
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12:29 - 12:32Or are you going to hug a child? Pick.
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12:32 - 12:33Are you going to hug a tree?
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12:33 - 12:35Or are you going to hug a child? Pick."
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12:35 - 12:38Well, when you start working
on issues like plastic, -
12:38 - 12:40you realize the whole thing is connected.
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12:40 - 12:43And luckily, most of us are blessed
to have two arms... -
12:43 - 12:44We can hug both.
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12:44 - 12:46Thank you very much.
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12:46 - 12:53(Applause)
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