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I'm often asked by people...
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It's one of the most asked questions
I get on small businesses.
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How can I get my business...
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How can I get people
where I can delegate?
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How do I delegate?
How do I delegate?
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How do I delegate? How do I delegate
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And really you can't even
ask that question
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until you've done
a whole lot of preparation.
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And you've got the right people
in the right seats to delegate to.
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Organizations that delegate well
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are fanatical about
a bunch of different things.
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Hiring and firing
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to create an environment
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and the right kind of people
in the seats to be able to delegate to.
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Compensation. Unity. Loyalty.
Communication. Recognition
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You create a culture
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You create an environment
inside the organization
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that is delegatable.
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That is predictable.
That you can follow through on.
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Delegation
is probably
one of the most
misunderstood
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and abused areas of leadership.
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We think we can delegate
to someone based on their talent.
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And that's not it.
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Talent is part of it.
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But there's a whole process
of going on with this.
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The process of building a team
that concepts can be delegated to
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is lengthy.
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You can't just hire someone,
sit them in the slot,
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and delegate to them.
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You can delegate, you know:
Make copies... Make coffee...
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but I'm talking about delegating
entire business systems
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and sections to someone.
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You can't do that without spending
some effort and some time on this.
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Hiring and firing.
Take time to find thoroughbreds.
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And have the courage
to get the donkeys out!
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I tried to mix thoroughbreds
and donkeys for a while
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and they don't like each other.
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Donkeys don't like thoroughbreds around
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because the very presence
of a thoroughbred
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exposes a donkey's "donkeyness".
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Thoroughbreds don't like
having donkeys around
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because... well, they're donkeys.
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They don't care.
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They're lazy, they're bullheaded,
they're belligerent.
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And they don't care.
Did I mention that they don't care?
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Thoroughbreds don't want
to hang around that!
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See, you get a couple of talented people
in a stable full of donkeys,
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They will leave!
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Because they don't wanna hang out.
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Thoroughbreds don't wanna
hang out with donkeys.
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We do a thing called 90 at 90-day point.
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Once you've been with us 90 days,
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we all get in a room, and buy
chicken fillet wraps, whatever,
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and we all sit around
and do "Wrap with Dave" we call it.
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And the new people, I sit and talk
with our new team members.
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50 or 40 of them,
whatever there is in the last 90 days.
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And I'm sitting with them...
This last Monday I did one of these.
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And they ask me questions about things.
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Then we ask them what their AHA moment is.
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What's something that
kind of called you to go:
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"Wow! I didn't see that coming!"
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since you've been here.
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Tell me what your AHA moment is...
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And you'd be amazed
at the number of them go:
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The other night it was a developer.
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And he goes "I thought
I was gonna come in here
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and this is a company
that's all about financial stuff
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and radio and all this...
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and I didn't think
the developers would be up to par.
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I figured I'd be kind of, you know,
better than all of them.
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And he goes: It didn't take me
about three weeks
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to figure out they were
all better than me!
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And they got me on my toes,
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I'm running with thoroughbreds.
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And the AHA moment is often:
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I get to work with smart people
that care. Wow! what a cool thing!
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And that requires
the hiring and firing process.
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Accidentally sometimes you hire a donkey.
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And you have to have
a "donkeyectomy" then.
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You've done it. I've done it.
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I mean, you hire somebody,
you thought they were right,
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and then you find out
"This is just... it was a bad idea."
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Compensation is a reflection
of your value system.
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If you value thoroughbreds
plan on paying them well.
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I've checked the marketplace,
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and thoroughbreds cost more than donkeys.
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You do get what you pay for.
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Most of the time, not always.
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There's no guarantee
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that just because you pay a lot
you're gonna get a lot.
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But there's pretty much a guarantee
that if you don't pay a lot,
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you're not gonna get a thoroughbred.
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You're gonna pay a little more
to get somebody
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that really brings the water.
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Really knows what they're doing,
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and that really cares deeply,
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and thinks critically.
They think above the problem.
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They're not just trying to get by.
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And they don't say
"take it easy" and mean it.
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"Thank God it's Friday!"
"Oh God, it's Monday!"
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How quick can I get out of here
and how late can I come.
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You know? Right?
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It's a different world
when you hire a thoroughbread.
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But they cost a little more
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because they have
a little more expectation of you
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and of the organization
and they need an upward trajectory
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that they can grow with the company.
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And as the company grows
maybe their income grows.
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You know, you have to be generous,
this is what it amounts to.
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And it's great ROI though,
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because you don't have to hire
as many thoroughbreds to do the work
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as you do donkeys.
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People are only loyal
when you're loyal to them.
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Creating loyalty, creating unity,
is a constant battle.
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It does not randomly occur.
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People are not loyal to corporate America
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for one simple reason:
corporate America is not loyal to people.
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That's what's going on.
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And you have the ability,
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particularly those of you
that are leading in small businesses,
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owning and running small businesses.
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You have the ability to be different.
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To actually be loyal to someone.
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I was actually...
I jumped out of a plane,
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jumped into a car service
in another state
not long ago.
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And the guy driving the limo thing
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that little black sedan thing, the limo,
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you know, the limo service,
whatever we call it, the car service,
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he's telling me a story driving me over.
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I asked him:
How long you've been
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He said: I just started driving
for these guys
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about six weeks ago,
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I used to drive for another company
and they fired me.
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And I went: "That's comforting"
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Well, why were you fired? Pray, tell.
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and he said:
My wife and I are separated
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And she lives in New Jersey.
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He was in a different state
over in the Midwest
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He said: "My daughter got kidnapped
and was missing for six weeks."
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And I asked for time off
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to go participate with the police
and the searches.
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And they finally found her in a park.
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This guy dropped her off
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after he had carried her around
for six weeks.
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A horrible story...
this young 13 year old girl...
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And this company because he took time off
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to go find his daughter, fired him!
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You know?
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Like, you did what?
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You know, maybe
they didn't believe his story.
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I don't know. I mean... who does that?
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Companies do that.
They do that all the time.
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They have no soul.
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And you have the ability to have a soul.
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To go: My gosh! I can't even imagine...
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of course you can take time off
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and I don't know how long I can not pay you
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I mean I can pay you to not work
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but at least you can not be here for sure!
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Your job will be here when you get back
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And how can we help you?
And how can we...
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oh my gosh,
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what if my daughter
or my granddaughter,
I mean...
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how would I, you know...
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You treat other people
like you want to be treated.
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That's how you create loyalty
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Do unto others
as you'd have them do unto you.
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Why is that hard?
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Why is that hard?
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Communication and recognition.
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Organizations that delegate well
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are overly intentional
about communication.
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And they are generous with recognition.
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We over communicate.
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I tell our team all the time...
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We have a staff meeting, all 700 of them,
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every Monday morning for an hour.
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That's an investment in payroll.
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That's how much
we believe in communication.
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Because if the right hand
doesn't know what the left hand is doing,
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people don't know what's going on.
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If people don't know
what's going on inside your company
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You know what? They assume.
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They assume the worst.
They assume it's bad.
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They automatically think there's a secret.
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There's a bad thing.
There's a conspiracy.
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People never go:
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"Well, I don't know what's going on,
but I'm sure it’s awesome."
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They never do that.
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It's not human nature, right?
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And so you have to over communicate.
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You have to give them
too much information.
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Information that makes you feel
a little bit uncomfortable.
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Because you went so far into the details.
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And you know, you're not insulting people,
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we're not trying
to throw people under the bus,
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but we tell people what’s going on
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you're grownups, this is not
a kindergarten class.
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We're gonna have
an adult discussion here.
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Here's some stuff that went on,
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and here's the result of what went on,
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and you need to know that
you're gonna read this on Twitter.
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and you're gonna see this coming
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And you're gonna hear this
about Dave Ramsey.
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And here's what really
did happen out of that.
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Here's what really
didn't happen out of that.
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And you need to know that
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because you work here.
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instead of wondering:
Well, I read the article
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and I don't know...
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I work here but I don't know
what they really did...
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You know? I just tell you, it's not hard.
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Over communicate. Over communicate.
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A lot of people are so afraid
that if people have information
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that they will somehow
misuse that information.
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Now, we don't tell people's secrets
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we don't tell individuals people's stuff
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and shame someone or harm someone
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I don't mean that kind of thing
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but you know...
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corporately as far as information goes
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we give you too much information.
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It's ok for them to have information
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it's not going to destroy them.
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Lack of information
will destroy them
more often than too much information
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But our tendency is to hold back and go:
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I don’t know if they can handle that."
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What will all that do to morale?
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Well I'll tell you what it'll do to morale.
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It'll destroy it if you don't tell them
what's going on.
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That's what it'll do.
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You create an environment
that's not delegable
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because they don't trust.
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A lot of companies use
mushroom communication:
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keep everybody in the dark
and feed them manure.
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You gotta use real communication.
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You know, in order for a leader
to completely delegate
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they have to come to trust
the team members integrity
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and their competency.
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Circle that. Put stars around it.
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That is the thesis statement
of this lesson.
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That is how you delegate, right there.
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When you can trust someone's integrity
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and you can trust their ability to do
what you're asking them to do
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you don't have to check it.
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You'll just check the results.
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You don't have to micromanage anymore.
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And that takes time.
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You cannot hire someone off the street
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and in six seconds go:
I trust your integrity,
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and I trust your competency,
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now that you just got past your resume.
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No way, not unless you're a fool.
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And the more time you spend with someone,
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and the more you see them
accomplishing it,
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the more you can trust
their integrity, right?
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The more you can trust
their competency.
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So someone that has been
with me for 20 years
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and is running a 50 million dollar
section of our business,
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one of our EVPs as an example,
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obviously I have a lot more trust
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in that lady or that man's integrity
and in their competency
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than I do a new leader
who just started with us six weeks ago.
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There's no possible way
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I don't have a track record with them
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I don't trust them based on their resume
or what they did at
the other place.
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They get a shot at me trusting them
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based on what they did
at the other place
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But they earn the trust here.
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They prove their competence here.