Is there life before death? Pierre Rabhi at TEDxParis 2011
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0:17 - 0:20I've been thinking about what to tell you
for a while. -
0:20 - 0:24And sure enough, I have reviewed
extremely interesting things -
0:24 - 0:26that have brought me a lot.
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0:26 - 0:27I don't have any pictures to show you,
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0:27 - 0:32so I'm simply inviting you
to picture a vast desert. -
0:32 - 0:35A desert of sand, rocks, very big,
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0:35 - 0:38what I call a "horizontal abyss",
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0:38 - 0:40infinity and silence,
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0:40 - 0:45and in the middle of this
infinity and silence, -
0:45 - 0:47a small green spot,
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0:48 - 0:52a small biotope,
a small ecosystem called oasis. -
0:53 - 0:58It's in one of these man-made oasis,
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0:58 - 1:03in the driest zones, that I was born.
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1:03 - 1:07So, the silence, the minaret,
the five daily prayers, -
1:07 - 1:13and you'd say this duct in the middle
of the desert is there to stay forever, -
1:13 - 1:17and since the beginning of life.
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1:17 - 1:18Everything was fine.
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1:18 - 1:24My father was a blacksmith,
a poet, and a musician, -
1:24 - 1:26who would charm people with his music,
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1:26 - 1:31and at the same time, all day long,
he would forge metal -
1:31 - 1:34and make the anvil drum.
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1:34 - 1:39The anvil drums in the city,
people come and sit, they converse. -
1:39 - 1:45That city was created in the 17th century
by a sufi thaumaturge -
1:45 - 1:49whose teaching was about non-violence.
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1:49 - 1:54He had understood that violence
only brought on violence. -
1:54 - 1:56Then suddenly, a great upheaval.
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1:56 - 2:01That country happened to become
a French colony. -
2:01 - 2:05Then geologists, or some people,
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2:05 - 2:07find coal.
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2:07 - 2:13On finding coal, of course, a great shift
happened: modernity emerged. -
2:13 - 2:17So the whole population changes
into paid workers, -
2:17 - 2:21miners; that dark matter is unearthed,
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2:21 - 2:25that was under our feet, unknown to us.
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2:25 - 2:30Then, my own father becomes unemployed,
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2:30 - 2:34since the people he worked for,
forged tools for, -
2:34 - 2:40do not consult him anymore,
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2:40 - 2:42so he himself has to become a miner.
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2:42 - 2:46As a result, the anvil's song
comes to an end. -
2:46 - 2:49I see my father,
who had a certain nobility, -
2:49 - 2:53coming home every night covered in coal,
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2:53 - 2:56which I deeply felt
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2:56 - 3:01as him being sort of humiliated by fate.
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3:01 - 3:03modernity was here.
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3:03 - 3:08It so happens that about the same time
my mother dies, -
3:08 - 3:11my father wonders about the future
and finally says, -
3:11 - 3:15"The rules of the game
are no longer in our hands." -
3:15 - 3:18So he leaves me in a French couple's care
- an engineer and a school teacher - -
3:18 - 3:22who had migrated to this country
for the work in the mines. -
3:22 - 3:28So, at the age of five, I enter modernity,
not having known my mother. -
3:28 - 3:33I enter this modernity,
eventually, where I go, -
3:33 - 3:35I jump from tradition into modernity,
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3:35 - 3:37from Islam into Christianity,
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3:38 - 3:43from fire in the middle of the room
to the toothbrush, etc. -
3:43 - 3:47And I get caught, so to speak,
between these two cultures, -
3:47 - 3:50except these two cultures
have converging elements -
3:50 - 3:53that don't converge much,
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3:53 - 3:55and diverge a lot
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3:55 - 3:59in their vision, their ways
and their culture. -
3:59 - 4:04I come to terms with that,
and finally, it takes me aback. -
4:04 - 4:10I go to school, I'm an average pupil
to please my parents, -
4:10 - 4:15but I wonder about my true identity.
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4:15 - 4:16Who am I?
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4:16 - 4:17Which is right?
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4:17 - 4:21Is it the traditional population?
The modern population? -
4:21 - 4:28With this contradictory discourse,
I begin wondering, -
4:28 - 4:30and of course, instead of being brilliant
at chemistry -
4:30 - 4:35and maths and the rest,
I associated a lot -
4:35 - 4:37with philosophers,
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4:37 - 4:42therefore those who, eventually,
deeply wonder about the fate, -
4:42 - 4:46and the meaning that mankind may have.
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4:46 - 4:49The Algerian war takes place,
I leave Algeria, -
4:49 - 4:51not that I had made a choice,
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4:51 - 4:53but simply because
I had to come over here. -
4:53 - 4:57You have to remember
that when I was taught, -
4:57 - 5:00I was taught that my ancestors
were Gauls. -
5:00 - 5:03You just have to look at me
to see how obvious it is, -
5:03 - 5:05unless I'm the only Gaul.
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5:05 - 5:06(Laughter)
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5:06 - 5:08So what does it mean?
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5:08 - 5:12It means conditioning,
it means assimilation, -
5:12 - 5:16it means the integration
of a person into an ideology. -
5:16 - 5:20I arrive in Paris,
excluded from both cultures, -
5:20 - 5:24and I realize, well,
I was looking for a job, -
5:24 - 5:28and I realize that I hadn't acquired
any qualification. -
5:28 - 5:32Perhaps I could write a good essay
about Socrates, whom I loved, -
5:32 - 5:36but my employer didn't seem
so interested in that. -
5:36 - 5:39So I become what the French call an O.S.,
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5:39 - 5:41"Specialized Worker".
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5:41 - 5:43Why is it called specialized worker?
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5:43 - 5:47Because it's the one who is actually
an unskilled worker. -
5:47 - 5:49Even though I was
on a second-level salary. -
5:49 - 5:53So I am in this work microcosme,
and I try, -
5:53 - 5:57as I was much into the philosophy
of history, of anthropology, etc, -
5:57 - 6:01I try to give a configuration
to this system I was in, -
6:01 - 6:04and it was always
the big pyramid dominating. -
6:04 - 6:06There are some important people
at the top of the pyramid, -
6:06 - 6:09and unimportant people at the bottom.
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6:09 - 6:11There's a hierarchy: the CEO,
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6:11 - 6:14the general manager, the top executives,
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6:14 - 6:15the not so top executives,
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6:15 - 6:18and you get down to us,
the unskilled workers, -
6:18 - 6:19who, to quote Fernand Reynaud,
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6:19 - 6:21didn't have anybody to offend,
so here you are, -
6:21 - 6:23we were the lowest layer.
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6:23 - 6:28(Applause)
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6:28 - 6:32And in this overactive work,
where finally work has been given -- -
6:32 - 6:37work is a virtue, they keep repeating
that work is a virtue, -
6:37 - 6:46so basically, a hard-working man
is a man of choice in the social system. -
6:46 - 6:50And what is this effervescence
within the system? -
6:50 - 6:54It is driven by you having to produce
more and more, -
6:54 - 6:56that you must be a good worker,
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6:56 - 7:02and finally, you end up increasing the GNP,
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7:02 - 7:04through that effervescence,
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7:04 - 7:07but without the equity
I would have liked to see. -
7:07 - 7:11Then, the great proclamation of modernity,
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7:11 - 7:15was that progress would somehow
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7:15 - 7:18set human beings free.
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7:18 - 7:23But as I followed the path
of a human being into modernity, -
7:23 - 7:25I found a series of incarcerations.
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7:25 - 7:28Rightly or wrongly,
from kindergarten to university, -
7:28 - 7:30we get locked in what we call in French
"un bahut", a chest. -
7:30 - 7:32Everybody works in boxes,
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7:32 - 7:34small boxes, large boxes, etc.
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7:34 - 7:37Even to have fun, we say
"aller en boite" (go into a box). -
7:37 - 7:38(Laughter)
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7:38 - 7:40Of course, you get there in your car,
"une caisse" (box) -
7:40 - 7:41(Laughter)
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7:41 - 7:44An the last box,
where they store the elderly, -
7:44 - 7:45(Applause)
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7:45 - 7:47while waiting for the final box,
I'll let you figure it out. -
7:47 - 7:48(Laughter)
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7:48 - 7:49That's why I ask the question:
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7:49 - 7:53"Is there a life before death?"
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7:53 - 7:57Because if living means
being incarcerated for life, -
7:57 - 8:00until the moment when the system
finally rejects you, -
8:00 - 8:04to go into the transition
before you disappear, -
8:04 - 8:05well, what does it mean?
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8:05 - 8:06Alienation.
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8:06 - 8:09Basic alienation of the human being.
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8:09 - 8:11So, from there, obviously,
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8:11 - 8:14you'll understand that I didn't subscribe
to that at all, -
8:14 - 8:16and I said to myself: I must find
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8:16 - 8:17another time, another space.
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8:17 - 8:20That is to say, reconquer somehow
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8:20 - 8:24the freedom to do
what I want to with my life, -
8:24 - 8:28not being determined
by an imposed system. -
8:28 - 8:30So I returned to the land,
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8:30 - 8:33with my wife, in South Ardèche.
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8:33 - 8:37That's where I meet with agriculture
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8:38 - 8:40and we choose a place,
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8:40 - 8:42as if we were stupid,
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8:42 - 8:45we choose a place with degraded soil,
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8:45 - 8:49hard, no water, no electricity,
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8:49 - 8:51no telephone, no nothing.
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8:51 - 8:54And the bank I'm borrowing from tells me:
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8:54 - 8:55"You are crazy to settle there."
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8:55 - 8:57It would be hard for me to explain
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8:57 - 9:00that the important factor
behind our choice, -
9:00 - 9:03is the beauty of the place,
not just profit. -
9:03 - 9:08It's the beauty, we din't want to give up
the beauty of the place. -
9:08 - 9:13Now, the second stage: I'm a farmer,
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9:13 - 9:15and I learn modern agriculture,
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9:15 - 9:18which involves, of course,
chemical fertilizers, pesticides, -
9:18 - 9:22you spend your time killing and polluting.
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9:22 - 9:24At the same time, in the soil,
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9:24 - 9:26you put chemical fertilizers
that deteriorate it, -
9:26 - 9:29and that will pollute ground water, etc.
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9:29 - 9:33So, subscribing to that logic
was out of the question. -
9:33 - 9:37Which lead me to organic farming,
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9:37 - 9:39and from that moment, I understood
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9:39 - 9:43that you could perfectly expect
the land to feed us -
9:43 - 9:47in quantity, in quality
and at the same time, -
9:47 - 9:50improve it, improve its quality,
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9:50 - 9:52and pass it in a better state
to the next generations -
9:52 - 9:55in a better state than before we got it.
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9:55 - 9:57So we were performing
some sort of healing act, -
9:57 - 9:59an act of responsability,
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9:59 - 10:01towards this life.
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10:01 - 10:03Then they tell me, "You'll never succeed",
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10:03 - 10:04but we did.
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10:04 - 10:06We succeeded in raising our five children
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10:06 - 10:08who are all musicians, etc.
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10:08 - 10:11We haven't been in dire straits,
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10:11 - 10:14instead, we found balance again,
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10:14 - 10:18that is we must involve life in balance,
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10:18 - 10:20that is, if you put too much
excess in life, -
10:20 - 10:24that's alienation,
and if we stick to moderation, -
10:24 - 10:29that moderation brings things
to our own measure, -
10:29 - 10:31and gives us balance, therefore
it gives us the joy of being, -
10:31 - 10:36providing, of course, for our basic needs,
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10:36 - 10:39and even leaving a very important margin
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10:39 - 10:45to what concerns the promotion
of the very human being, -
10:45 - 10:49so that life isn't simply
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10:49 - 10:53a life of labour, but is also a time,
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10:53 - 10:56in which we find fullfilment,
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10:56 - 11:00we will have the necessary space
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11:00 - 11:03to look after ourselves, our inner selves,
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11:03 - 11:07develop skills that aren't just
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11:07 - 11:08merchant skills,
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11:08 - 11:12or skills indexed on financial value,
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11:12 - 11:16but free ourselves
from as much surplus as possible, -
11:16 - 11:21to be able to get back the freedom
of a personal development. -
11:21 - 11:24In doing so, organic farming proves
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11:24 - 11:27its capacity to regenerate soils,
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11:27 - 11:31and I am invited in African countries
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11:31 - 11:34where I bring organic farming
as an alternative -
11:34 - 11:40to farmers who have suffered
disastrous drought, -
11:40 - 11:44and who, at the same time,
can no longer feed themselves properly, -
11:44 - 11:46since fertilizers are so expensive,
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11:46 - 11:48polute the soil, etc.
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11:48 - 11:50So, I bring organic farming
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11:50 - 11:52by creating the first
organic farming training center, -
11:52 - 11:56and today, there are 100,000 farmers
using those methods, -
11:56 - 11:58more or less properly,
but anyway, we can say -
11:58 - 12:02there are 100,000 farmers
made aware of the principle -
12:02 - 12:05that you can perfectly take degraded soil,
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12:05 - 12:10regenerate it, make it fertile
and at the same time -
12:10 - 12:13provide for your food requirements
in a better way -
12:13 - 12:19since they are the basic needs
without which nothing else can exist. -
12:19 - 12:22It works, and then the general idea,
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12:22 - 12:25the reflexion on ecology
takes a certain dimension, -
12:25 - 12:30and indeed, by 2002,
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12:30 - 12:33some friends urge me to stand for
the presidential elections, -
12:33 - 12:37so you nearly got yourselves an Obama,
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12:37 - 12:38(Laughter)
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12:38 - 12:41but the point was
not to get into politicking, -
12:41 - 12:47in the classical sense, even if I've had
to adopt the scenario, -
12:47 - 12:50but the point was to say,
there's an absolute emergency: -
12:50 - 12:54to place humans and nature
at the core of our preoccupations, -
12:54 - 12:56first and foremost,
dropping everything else, -
12:56 - 12:58today, it's about humans and nature.
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12:58 - 13:02Because my point is to know,
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13:02 - 13:06if for example,
some aliens were watching us, -
13:06 - 13:10and studying us, they would conclude:
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13:10 - 13:13"They are exceptionally gifted,
but they are unintelligent." -
13:13 - 13:17Because being exceptionally gifted
with knowledge, etc. -
13:17 - 13:20doesn't imply that you organized
the world the way it should be. -
13:20 - 13:23In addition, the discrepancies
and tremendous injustice, -
13:23 - 13:26when 4/5 of the world's population
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13:26 - 13:31can hardly provide for their vital needs,
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13:31 - 13:34and the fifth spending,
obviously feasting, -
13:34 - 13:39after plundering, by the way,
and continuing to do so, -
13:39 - 13:40others' territory.
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13:40 - 13:45So this inequity, and this --
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13:45 - 13:46how shall I put it,
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13:46 - 13:49this disparity seemes to me
the first alternative -
13:49 - 13:51that needs to be sorted out.
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13:51 - 13:53If we don't sort it out,
women's subordination, -
13:53 - 13:55the subordinated woman,
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13:55 - 13:57No, women must not be subordinated.
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13:57 - 14:00They must be the elment that will allow
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14:00 - 14:04the male-female balance
that will give back to our society -
14:04 - 14:08another sensibility and balance,
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14:08 - 14:09and during my electoral campaign,
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14:09 - 14:12of course, I would insist a lot
on the need for education, -
14:12 - 14:15the need to get back
to the local economy, -
14:15 - 14:22not subordinated to the transport
of foods, etc. -
14:22 - 14:26I have little time to explain
all these things to you, -
14:26 - 14:28but anyway, they are,
if you will, part of an approach -
14:28 - 14:33that is more and more asserted,
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14:33 - 14:36and finally, the big question --
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14:36 - 14:40I borrowed Dostoievski's sentence:
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14:40 - 14:42"Beauty will save the world"
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14:42 - 14:45or "Beauty can save the world."
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14:45 - 14:47I don't remember exactly,
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14:47 - 14:49and I have pondered a lot on this notion
of beauty saving the world. -
14:49 - 14:51I thought, well --
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14:51 - 14:53We have a lot of music,
a lot of paintings, -
14:53 - 14:56a lot of extraordinary monuments,
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14:56 - 14:58but does it save the world?
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14:58 - 14:59No.
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14:59 - 15:01So the question today is:
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15:01 - 15:03"What is this beauty
that can save the world?" -
15:03 - 15:05It is in us.
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15:05 - 15:07The beauty that will save the world
is generosity, -
15:07 - 15:10it's sharing, it's compassion,
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15:10 - 15:12all these values we think of as outdated,
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15:12 - 15:14and yet, where do they lead to?
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15:14 - 15:17They lead to a tremendous energy,
the energy of love: -
15:17 - 15:19And without love, there can be none.
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15:19 - 15:22The other element that leads to this,
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15:22 - 15:24I am told, alternatives, okay,
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15:24 - 15:25but I tell people,
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15:25 - 15:27you can eat organic, recycle your water,
use solar heating, -
15:27 - 15:30and exploit your fellow man,
it isn't incompatible. -
15:30 - 15:31(Laughter)
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15:31 - 15:33alternatives aren't the thing, you see?
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15:33 - 15:36(Applause)
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15:36 - 15:40So we must be careful not to get lost
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15:40 - 15:44in substitutions for something we reject
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15:44 - 15:46and forget that the first substitution
that must be done, -
15:46 - 15:50must be done from the very human heart,
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15:50 - 15:52that is the vision we have of life.
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15:52 - 15:55If we don't forge such a vision
for ourselves, -
15:55 - 16:00eventually we will disappear.
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16:00 - 16:02So, to conclude,
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16:02 - 16:06I have wondered a lot about:
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16:06 - 16:09"What is the purpose of the human being
on Earth?" -
16:09 - 16:14We have a vision, unfortunately,
of a planet that's magnificent, -
16:14 - 16:19but we don't perceive it as
an extraordinary destiny gift. -
16:19 - 16:23It's after all very small,
lost in a huge sidereal desert. -
16:23 - 16:25And all we do, is to treat it
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16:25 - 16:30as a resource deposit we have to plunder
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16:30 - 16:33until the very last fish,
until the very last tree, etc. -
16:33 - 16:36Here is the radical
and deep unintelligence -
16:36 - 16:40if we don't reconsider
and change that vision. -
16:40 - 16:45So to conclude I will tell you an anecdote
to illustrate what I mean -
16:45 - 16:48and I see I'm on zero now.
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16:48 - 16:49(Laughter)
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16:49 - 16:50OK, now I must --
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16:50 - 16:53(Applause)
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16:53 - 16:56I am going to transgress a little,
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16:56 - 17:00have a teeny-weeny bit more to conclude.
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17:00 - 17:05Organic farming has proved
to be a real path, -
17:05 - 17:08where we become a little therapist
for the Earth, -
17:08 - 17:09where we take care of it.
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17:09 - 17:14We feed her, and that's what we need
to develop. -
17:14 - 17:17Besides, I will quote an anecdote
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17:17 - 17:20I have experienced in Ardèche,
since we had a farm, -
17:20 - 17:23our flock of sheep, etc.
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17:23 - 17:26And we had built our little freedom,
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17:26 - 17:32on actions that were meaningful to us,
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17:32 - 17:35and which brought us a lot of happiness,
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17:35 - 17:38but based on a principle of sobriety.
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17:38 - 17:41The principle of sobriety and moderation
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17:41 - 17:44sets you free at once.
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17:44 - 17:46Because the problem of the human society
is that -
17:46 - 17:49what is essential hasn't been solved,
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17:49 - 17:51and what is superfluous has no limit.
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17:51 - 17:53Since what's superfluous has no limit,
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17:53 - 17:57we are in an exponential economic growth
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17:57 - 17:59that imposes itself no limit,
so much so that, -
17:59 - 18:01obviously, in my electoral campaign,
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18:01 - 18:05I committed blasphemy:
I talked about degrowth. -
18:05 - 18:06And what I meant
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18:06 - 18:08was not having to regress,
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18:08 - 18:10I meant a civilization of moderation.
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18:10 - 18:18Because today we are living
a wonderful experience, -
18:18 - 18:20of great things that we had gained,
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18:20 - 18:22some of which we have mentioned.
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18:22 - 18:25But to what use?
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18:25 - 18:28From what paradigm do we get
those benefits? -
18:28 - 18:31Surely if we don't choose
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18:31 - 18:34a civilisation of moderation,
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18:34 - 18:39if we don't transform our society
through a change in humans, -
18:39 - 18:44if we don't choose
the priceless value of life, -
18:44 - 18:48life is so precious, so priceless.
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18:48 - 18:51If you put a price tag on it,
you defile it. -
18:51 - 18:54If we watch our global behavior
on this magnificent planet, -
18:54 - 18:57we can surely conclude
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18:57 - 19:00that our species is an accident.
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19:00 - 19:12(Applause)
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- Is there life before death? Pierre Rabhi at TEDxParis 2011
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Pierre Rabhi, a farmer, a philosopher, a writer, and a French thinker of Algerian origin is one of the pioneers of organic agriculture and the inventor of the “Oasis in all places.”
He defends a form of moderate society that is more respectful of people and earth and supports the development of agricultural practices accessible to all. - Video Language:
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