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This deep-sea mystery is changing our understanding of life

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    I'm an ocean microbiologist
    at the University of Tennessee,
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    and I want to tell you guys
    about some microbes
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    that are so strange and wonderful
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    that they're challenging our assumptions
    about what life is like on Earth.
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    So I have a question.
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    Please raise your hand if you've ever
    thought it would be cool
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    to go to the bottom
    of the ocean in a submarine?
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    Yes.
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    Most of you, because
    the oceans are so cool.
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    Alright, now, please raise your hand
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    if the reason you raised your hand
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    to go to the bottom
    of the ocean in the submarine
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    is because it would get you
    a little bit closer
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    to that exciting mud that's down there.
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    Nobody.
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    I'm the only one in this room.
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    Well, I think about this all the time.
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    I spend most of my waking hours
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    trying to determine
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    how deep we can go into the Earth
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    and still find something,
    anything, that's alive,
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    because we still don't know
    the answer to this very basic question
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    about life on Earth.
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    So in the 1980s, a scientist
    named John Parks in the UK
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    was similarly obsessed,
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    and he came up with a crazy idea.
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    He believed that there was a vast,
    deep, and living microbial biosphere
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    underneath all the world's oceans
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    that extends hundreds
    of meters into the seafloor,
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    which is cool,
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    but the only problem
    is that nobody believed him,
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    and the reason that nobody believed him
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    is that ocean sediments may be
    the most boring place on Earth.
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    There's no sunlight, there's no oxygen,
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    and perhaps worst of all,
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    there's no fresh food deliveries
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    for literally millions of years.
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    You don't have to have a PhD in biology
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    to know that that is a bad place
    to go looking for life.
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    But in 2002, John had convinced
    enough people that he was on to something
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    that he actually got an expedition
    on this drill ship
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    called the Joides Resolution,
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    and he ran it along with
    Bo Barker Jørgensen of Denmark.
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    And so they were finally able to get
    some really good pristine
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    deep sub-surface samples
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    without contamination
    from surface microbes.
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    This drill ship is capable of drilling
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    thousands of meters underneath the ocean,
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    and the mud comes up in sequential cores,
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    one after the other, long,
    long cores that look like this.
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    This is being carried by scientists
    such as myself who go on these ships,
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    and we process the cores on the ships
    and then we send them home
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    to our home laboratories
    for further study.
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    So when John and his colleagues
    got these first precious
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    deep sea pristine samples,
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    they put them under the microscope,
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    and they saw images that looked
    pretty much like this,
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    which is actually taken
    from a more recent expedition
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    by my PhD student Joy Buongiorno.
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    You can see the hazy stuff
    in the background.
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    That's mud. That's deep sea ocean mud,
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    and the bright green dots
    stained with the green fluorescent dye
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    are real, living microbes.
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    Now I've got to tell you all something
    really tragic about microbes.
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    They all look the same under a microbe,
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    I mean, to a first approximation.
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    You can take the most fascinating
    organisms in the world,
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    like a microbe that literally
    breathes uranium,
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    and another one that makes rocket fuel,
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    mix them up with some ocean mud,
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    put them underneath a microscope,
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    and they're just little dots.
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    It's really annoying.
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    So we can't use their looks
    to tell them apart.
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    We have to use DNA like a fingerprint
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    to say who is who.
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    And I'll teach you guys
    how to do it right now.
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    So I made up some data, and I'm going
    to show you some data that are not real.
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    This is to illustrate
    what it would look like
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    if a bunch of species were not
    related to each other at all.
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    So you can see each species
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    has a list of combinations
    of A, G, C, and T,
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    which are the four sub-units of DNA,
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    sort of randomly jumbled
    and nothing looks like anything else
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    and these species are totally
    unrelated to each other.
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    But this is what real DNA looks like
    from a gene that these species
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    happen to share.
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    Everything lines up nearly perfectly.
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    The chances of getting
    so many of those vertical columns
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    where every species has a C
    or every species has a T
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    by random chance is infinitesimal.
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    So we know that all those species
    had to have had a common ancestor.
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    They're all relatives of each other.
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    So now I'll tell you who they are.
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    The top two are us and chimpanzees,
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    which y'all already knew were related,
    because, I mean, obviously,
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    but we're also related to things
    that we don't look like,
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    like pine trees and giardia,
    which is that gastrointestinal disease
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    you can get if you don't filter
    your water while you're hiking.
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    We're also related to bacteria like e.coli
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    and Clostridium difficile, which is
    a horrible, opportunistic pathogen
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    that kills lots of people.
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    But there's of course good microbes here,
    like Dehalococcoides ethenogenes,
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    which cleans up
    our industrial waste for us.
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    So if I take these DNA sequences,
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    and then I use them, the similarities
    and differences between them,
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    to make a family tree for all of us
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    so you can see who is closely related,
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    then this is what it looks like.
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    So you can see clearly at a glance
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    that things like us and giardia
    and bunnies and pine trees
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    are all, like, siblings,
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    and then the bacteria are,
    like, our ancient cousins.
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    But we're kin to every
    living thing on Earth.
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    So in my job, on a daily basis,
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    I get to produce scientific evidence
    against existential loneliness.
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    So when we got these first DNA sequences
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    from the first crews of pristine samples
    from the deep subsurface,
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    we wanted to know where they were.
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    So the first thing that we discovered
    is that they were not aliens,
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    because we could get their DNA to line up
    with everything else on Earth.
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    But now check out where they go
    on our tree of life.
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    The first thing you'll notice
    is that there's a lot of them.
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    It wasn't just one little species that
    managed to live in this horrible place.
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    It's kind of a lot of things.
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    And the second thing that you'll notice,
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    hopefully, is that they're not
    like anything we've ever seen before.
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    They are as different from each other
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    as they are from anything
    that we've known before
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    as we are from pine trees.
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    So John Parks was completely correct.
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    He, and we, had discovered
    a completely new and highly diverse
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    microbial ecosystem on Earth
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    that no one even knew existed
    before the 1980s.
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    So now we were on a roll.
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    The next step was to grow
    these exotic species
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    in a petri dish so that we could
    do real experiments on them
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    like microbiologists are supposed to do.
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    But no matter what we fed them,
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    they refused to grow.
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    Even now, 15 years
    and many expeditions later,
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    no human has ever gotten a single one
    of these exotic deep subsurface microbes
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    to grow in a petri dish.
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    And it's not for lack of trying.
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    That may sound disappointing,
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    but I actually find it exhilarating,
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    because it means there are so many
    tantalizing unknowns to work on.
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    Like, for instance, my colleagues
    and I got what we thought
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    was a really great idea.
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    We were going to read their genes
    like a recipe book,
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    find out what it was they wanted to eat,
    and put it in their petri dishes,
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    and then they would grow and be happy.
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    but then when we looked at their genes,
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    it turns out that what they wanted to eat
    was the food we were already feeding them.
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    So that was a total wash.
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    There was something else
    that they wanted in their petri dishes
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    that we were just not giving them.
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    So by combining measurements
    from many different places
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    around the world,
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    my colleagues at the University
    of Southern California,
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    Doug LaRowe and Jan Amend,
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    were able to calculate that each one
    of these deep sea microbial cells
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    requires only one zeptowatt of power,
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    and before you get your phones out,
    a zepto is 10 to the minus 21,
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    because I know I would want
    to look that up.
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    Humans, on the other hand,
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    require about a hundred watts of power.
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    So a hundred watts is basically
    if you take a pineapple
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    and drop it from about waist height
    to the ground 881,632 times a day.
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    If you did that and then
    linked it up to a turbine,
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    that would create enough power
    to make me happen for a day.
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    A zeptowatt, if you put it
    in similar terms,
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    is if you take just one grain of salt
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    and then you imagine
    a tiny, tiny, little ball
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    that is one thousandth of the mass
    of that one grain of salt
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    and then you drop it one nanometer,
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    which is a hundred times smaller
    than the wavelength of visible light,
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    once per day.
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    That's all it takes to make
    these microbes live.
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    That's less energy than we ever thought
    would be capable of supporting life,
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    but somehow, amazingly, beautifully,
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    it's enough.
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    So if these deep subsurface microbes
    have a very different relationship
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    with energy than we previously thought,
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    then it follows that they'll have to have
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    a different relationship
    with time as well,
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    because when you live
    on such tiny energy gradients,
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    rapid growth is impossible.
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    If these things ever wanted
    to colonize our throats and make us sick,
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    they would get muscled out
    by fast-growing streptococcus
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    before they could even
    initiate cell division.
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    So that's why we never
    find them in our throats.
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    Perhaps the fact that the deep
    subsurface is so boring
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    is actually an asset to these microbes.
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    They never get washed out by a storm.
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    They never get overgrown by weeds.
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    All they have to do is exist.
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    Maybe that thing that we were missing
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    in our petri dishes was not food at all.
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    Maybe it wasn't a chemical.
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    Maybe the thing that they really want,
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    the nutrient that they want, is time.
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    But time is the one thing
    that I'll never be able to give them.
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    So even if I have a cell culture
    that I pass to my PhD students,
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    who pass it to their
    PhD students, and so on,
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    we'd have to do that
    for thousands of years
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    in order to mimic the exact conditions
    of the deep subsurface,
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    all without growing any contaminants.
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    It's just not possible.
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    But maybe in a way we already have
    grown them in our petri dishes.
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    Maybe they looked at all that food
    that we offered them and said,
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    thanks, I'm going to speed up so much
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    that I'm going to make
    a new cell next century.
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    Ugh.
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    (Laughter)
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    So why is it that the rest
    of biology moves so fast?
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    Why does a cell die after a day
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    and a human dies after
    only a hundred years?
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    These seem like really
    arbitrarily short limits
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    when you think about the total
    amount of time in the universe.
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    But these are not arbitrary limits.
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    They're dictated by one simple thing,
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    and that thing is the Sun.
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    Once life figured out how to harness
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    the energy of the Sun
    through photosynthesis,
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    we all had to speed up and get
    on day and night cycles.
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    In that way, the Sun gave us
    both a reason to be fast
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    and the fuel to do it.
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    You can view most of life on Earth
    like a circulatory system,
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    and the Sun is our beating heart.
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    But the deep subsurface
    is like a circulatory system
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    that's completely
    disconnected from the Sun.
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    It's instead being driven
    by long, slow geological rhythms.
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    There's currently no theoretical limit
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    on the lifespan of one single cell.
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    As long as there is at least
    a tiny energy gradient to exploit,
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    theoretically, a single cell could live
    for hundreds of thousands of years
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    or more, simply by replacing
    broken parts over time.
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    To ask a microbe that lives like that
    to grow in our petri dishes
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    is to ask them to adapt to our frenetic,
    Sun-centric, fast way of living,
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    and maybe they've got
    better things to do than that.
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    (Laughter)
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    Imagine if we could figure out
    how they managed to do this.
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    What if it involves some cool,
    ultra-stable compounds
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    that we could use
    to increase the shelf life
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    in biomedical or industrial applications?
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    Or maybe if we figure out
    the mechanism that they use
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    to grow so extraordinarily slowly,
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    we could mimic it in cancer cells
    and slow runaway cell division.
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    I don't know.
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    I mean, honestly, that is all speculation,
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    but the only thing I know for certain
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    is that there are a hundred
    billion billion billlion
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    living microbial cells underlying
    all the world's oceans.
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    That's 200 times more than the total
    biomass of humans on this planet.
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    And those microbes have
    a fundamentally different relationship
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    with time and energy than we do.
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    What seems like a day to them
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    might be a thousand years to us.
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    They don't care about the Sun,
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    and they don't care about growing fast,
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    and they probably don't give
    a damn about my petri dishes,
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    but if we can continue to find
    creative ways to study them,
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    then maybe we'll finally figure out
    what life, all of life, is like on Earth.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
This deep-sea mystery is changing our understanding of life
Speaker:
Karen Lloyd
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