Zoophile Rights Day Podiumsdiskussion 2015 Vortrag von Herrn Buschmann
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0:16 - 0:17Thank you very much for the invitation
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0:17 - 0:20I must say, I never held a lecture on
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0:20 - 0:22socks, but it is very warm and
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0:22 - 0:26cosy here.
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0:27 - 0:30My name is Frank Buschmann.
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0:30 - 0:33For many years now I am engaged in animal
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0:33 - 0:36behaviour. First as a researcher in
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0:36 - 0:41Ireland and Cologne, then after 15 years
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0:41 - 0:44resarch I founded an
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0:44 - 0:47enterprise of my own by forcedly strategic
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0:47 - 0:49reasons so to say.
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0:49 - 0:52We are developing hard- and software for
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0:52 - 0:54animal welfare, animal breeding and
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0:54 - 0:56animal management.
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0:56 - 0:58For example automating feeding gear and
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0:58 - 1:01transponder controlled locks.
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1:01 - 1:04This are these little microchips coated in
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1:04 - 1:06glass you know for example
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1:06 - 1:10of cats who are all chipped.
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1:10 - 1:14We also design management databases which
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1:15 - 1:18ensure the authorities that the parameters
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1:18 - 1:20of the animals in the limits of the animal
protection law. -
1:20 - 1:23Administration of transgenic organisms.
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1:23 - 1:26Here we have achieved one of the few
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1:26 - 1:28successes in the new animal protection law
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1:28 - 1:31Transgenic organisms must be better docu-
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1:31 - 1:34mented, especially in
regard of the impairments -
1:36 - 1:39and problems of the transgenic race.
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1:52 - 1:54All this has to be journalized and
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1:54 - 1:57reported to the authorities. To ensure
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1:58 - 2:00that te journals are not simply filled
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2:02 - 2:04with random data we developed a europe
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2:16 - 2:17software.
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2:34 - 2:37I am rather content that we with our
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2:37 - 2:40enterprise can add a little contribution
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2:40 - 2:43to reduce the amount of animals for
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2:43 - 2:45and that those who are necessary and be
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2:45 - 2:47monitored by the authorities.
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2:53 - 2:56The topic was proposed by Michael whom I
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2:56 - 2:59know for 15 years now.
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3:00 - 3:03"Similarities and differences of man and
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3:03 - 3:05animal" of course is a huge topic about
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3:06 - 3:09which you can talk for hours and the time
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3:09 - 3:25was limited on 15 minutes.
It got a little extended -
3:25 - 3:41and because of that we have
a little more time so I -
3:41 - 3:57wanted to design it a
little more dynamic. In the -
3:57 - 4:13beginning I will show a
film so everybody can think -
4:13 - 4:29it over: Is this an
“attraction reaction machine” -
4:29 - 4:46now, is this by chance or
is it a score of one animal -
4:46 - 5:02to another by pushing him
down the stairs. We are -
5:02 - 5:18watching the videos now first
which I of course have -
5:18 - 5:34from the Internet. Yes,
we know this particularly -
5:34 - 5:49with cats that they are
very imaginative and have -
5:49 - 6:05very much refinement if
they want a little if they -
6:05 - 6:22want to have food if they
want to come out or there -
6:22 - 6:38also are envy actions. There
comes this tiger to his -
6:38 - 6:55brother and, what kind of
chance, the other plunges -
6:55 - 7:11into the water. Whether its
pure coincidence or not, -
7:11 - 7:26one can not examine it
strictly scientifically, -
7:26 - 7:43but it is a quite interesting
connection which remind -
7:43 - 7:59us of it very much. It´s
about different species -
7:59 - 8:15which have different ways
of communication. It´s well -
8:15 - 8:31known, that dogs and cats
body language is already -
8:31 - 8:47different and this makes
living together a little -
8:47 - 9:02more difficult - some kind
of adventurous also - -
9:02 - 9:18between such species. Some
can be chance but other -
9:18 - 9:35things already look very
much according to strategy. -
9:35 - 9:50We will see just another part
- I would like to -
9:50 - 10:08emphasize - in which he runs
away from a cow. Sabotage, -
10:08 - 10:23as in this case, also
actually can be chance but -
10:23 - 10:38effective. Cats try to
to present themselfs as -
10:38 - 10:53if it does not matter
wether theire surroundings -
10:53 - 11:08turn, if it´s Earth around
Sun or turning around -
11:08 - 11:26themselfs it´s identical, it
has a strategic advantage -
11:26 - 11:40and is made use of at once.
Strategies develop -
11:40 - 11:57also in the sozialisation
between different species, -
11:57 - 12:14and may be used shamelessly there too.
He chucks ball -
12:14 - 12:30away and the other one wants
to fetch it - for this -
12:30 - 12:47he´ll then gets a bone. This
already looks according -
12:47 - 13:05to strategy. It is, proved in
the research that different -
13:05 - 13:20animal species also develop
political strategies -
13:20 - 13:37to succeed with something.
This is this with making -
13:37 - 13:51use of a situation,
defenseless, opportunity -
13:51 - 14:07make love. No question about
it that it seems to be -
14:07 - 14:24targeted. And a fish also
can defend itself in front -
14:24 - 14:39of a cat. Thats where the
concept Kamika (t) ze -
14:39 - 14:54comes from. Or taking the
sledge from the human - -
14:54 - 15:11riding it itself. And then
something arises from it -
15:11 - 15:26to Undewicht in the
household, how one says with -
15:26 - 15:42in NRW. <<<< das ist irgendwie
falsch???? Ich kenne -
15:42 - 15:58den Spruch auch nicht –
muss nochmal reinhören…. -
15:58 - 16:13One can explain a lot by
by coincidence. In which -
16:13 - 16:29cats really have a talent
to throw everything down -
16:29 - 16:46(Territory Enlargement).
Basically socializationis a -
16:46 - 17:02very good Idea to bring
different species together. -
17:02 - 17:17If one brings them together
in early stages of -
17:17 - 17:34Development, then they learn
very fast to handle each -
17:34 - 17:49other. At last, domesticated
animals are used to -
17:49 - 18:04Humans and breeded and
trained to do so. so to -
18:04 - 18:21say, this is a "Cat into a the box".
This is the Scene -
18:21 - 18:37once again. Of course on
Youtube there are a lot -
18:37 - 18:53of funny animal videos,which,
if you start thinking -
18:53 - 19:10about it encourages you:
"Yes, there is consideration -
19:10 - 19:27and strategy at least experience
with a human behavior -
19:27 - 19:42behind this there". I have
called it "attraction -
19:42 - 19:57reaction or systematic
procedure" now, but to -
19:57 - 20:11me, it´s more a systematic procedure.
Not in -
20:11 - 20:28all, but in a lot of cases.
I will start to compare, -
20:28 - 20:44what is the difference
between the animal "man" and -
20:44 - 21:01the other animals. What
does one say there and what -
21:01 - 21:16can be kept. What can be
discussed or disproved. -
21:16 - 21:33This then culminates in the
discourse: Empathy is a -
21:33 - 21:49pure emotion now or it is
rationally controlled or -
21:49 - 22:05perhaps it has even an
evolutionary advantage? I -
22:05 - 22:21then take an example to the positions.
An animal is -
22:21 - 22:37trained according to a
certain way to proceed, in -
22:37 - 22:53dealing with horses this
is so, for example: The -
22:53 - 23:10conducting stallion or the
conducting mare must watch -
23:10 - 23:26over the complete herd and
head then has increased -
23:26 - 23:44hers relatively to see
approximate enemies. This means -
23:44 - 23:59they have a quite dominating
behavior which for -
23:59 - 24:14certain is practical to
recognize just possible -
24:14 - 24:31dangers. From this then has
the man developed, that -
24:31 - 24:47the eye contact and the
eye-level shall in dealing -
24:47 - 25:03with the animal be fundamental
under the eye-level -
25:03 - 25:19of man. It is said in many
rider circles, if this -
25:19 - 25:35is not the case, one then
could not master a horse -
25:35 - 25:51either, we go equally still
a bit further into it -
25:51 - 26:08there. There is not only
racism but also speciesism -
26:08 - 26:23there. Does it become the
species justly or not -
26:23 - 26:40justly? Which mechanisms
are connected that a group -
26:40 - 26:56represents itself better-
or the other one worse - -
26:56 - 27:12in opposite to another group?
Then: Effect of the -
27:12 - 27:28cultural over-forming, the
domestikation which we -
27:28 - 27:45cultivate, breed and train
to animals, so they are able -
27:46 - 28:01to manage better in our
human environment and we -
28:01 - 28:18"make them utilizable",within
the meaning of social -
28:18 - 28:34support and similar effects.
At the End I would say -
28:34 - 28:51something about a cognitive
dissonance or in simple -
28:51 - 29:05words: The contradiction
between the love of -
29:05 - 29:21animals and using an animal
so it can be eaten by -
29:21 - 29:39non-vegetarians. The videos
for the attraction reaction -
29:39 - 29:55respectively for the
systematic procedure I´ve just -
29:55 - 30:11shown. What do animals and
people have in common? -
30:11 - 30:27This is a brainstorming,
that is now no complete -
30:27 - 30:43enumeration,as it would
be found in the Review or -
30:43 - 31:01paper. What is, for some
people, surely common, that no -
31:01 - 31:16animal is like the other
even if it is one of the -
31:16 - 31:33same race and the same brood.
Domesticated animals -
31:33 - 31:50particularly have theire own
character and theire own -
31:50 - 32:06behavior typical form. It
is not only an external -
32:06 - 32:22appearance now but in my
thesis went 16 years ago -
32:22 - 32:39therefore this still was not
clear: What is forgetting? -
32:39 - 32:54Is forgetting simply
some memory information -
32:54 - 33:09which fades? Or is forgetting
to learn not to do -
33:09 - 33:27something? If I usually got
a positive reinforcement, -
33:27 - 33:43a reward for something, and
then, all of the sudden -
33:43 - 33:59I don´t get it anymore,
even though I´m doing the -
33:59 - 34:16same as before - it starts
to get senseless or it´s -
34:16 - 34:33a waste of energie to act
like that to get the reward, -
34:33 - 34:49which does not come anymore.
There was my Theory, -
34:49 - 35:04even in different species,
that it is an actice -
35:04 - 35:20studying process to learn
not to do it any longer. -
35:20 - 35:36I have compared different
animal species, I also -
35:36 - 35:54compared them with Humans and
found patterns, which are -
35:54 - 36:10typically, individual
typically,for every studying -
36:10 - 36:26behavior. Everybody studies
somehow differently. -
36:26 - 36:42Solves certain tasks faster
or in another rhythm, -
36:42 - 36:57faster or more slowly and
one can derive a time -
36:57 - 37:13sample from it with which one e.g.
can say: Michael -
37:13 - 37:30Kiok studies like this and
this is his time rhythm.
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