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Why I stopped watching porn: Ran Gavrieli at TEDxJaffa

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    I stopped watching porn
    for two reasons basically.
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    The first one was that
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    porn brought so much anger and violence
    into my private fantasies.
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    And these were anger and violence that
    were not there originally to begin with.
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    And I did not want it for me anymore.
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    This was not me and,
    I decided to just put an end to it.
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    Easier said than done...
    I got it later, but...
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    The second reason was
    that I became to realize...
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    I came to realize that
    only by watching porn
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    I take part in creating
    a demand for filmed prostitution
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    because that's what porn really is:
    filmed prostitution.
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    "Pornē" stands for prostitute,
    "graphia" stands for documentation.
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    Prostitution was
    nobody's childhood dream,
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    it is always a result
    of trouble and distress.
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    Now, I became aware of that gradually,
    when I was volunteering
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    with men and women in prostitution,
    some of them victims of human traffic,
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    serving aid in brothels,
    under the bridge and street corners.
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    But you don't really need to do all that
    in order to understand
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    how this mechanism of porn
    and prostitution works.
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    Because porn is a genre - it's not about
    erotica or healthy sexual communication.
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    It's all about male domination of women,
    subordinance of women.
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    Not only the sexual practice,
    but as a way of being,
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    as a genderial hierarchy in this world.
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    If we would ask porn,
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    how does it define something as sexual?
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    What qualifies, what defines
    something as sexual?
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    Porn would laugh in our face.
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    What defines sexual?
    Whatever men find arousing...
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    Men find it arousing to choke a woman?
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    To have a brutal sex without one
    touch, hug, kiss, tender caress?
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    Well then it is sexual.
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    It arouses men to see
    a woman or child cry?
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    It is sexual.
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    It arouses men to rape a woman,
    well, then it is sexual.
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    In every mainstream
    porn gallery on the web,
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    we can find the rape category side by side
    with the humiliation category,
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    abuse category, crime category and so on.
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    And this is all as if this regular porn
    is not already filled with these motives.
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    Even in its mildest version,
    the mildest version of porn,
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    what porn is showing us like,
    I know, 80%, maybe 90% of the time
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    is actually sex with no hands involved.
    This is not how we authentically desire...
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    Sorry, I'll repeat that, I see your look.
    Sex with no hands involved... okay.
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    If you and I are not going
    to give up watching porn
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    the next thing you do watch
    just you just notice that
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    porn cameras have
    no interest in capturing
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    any normal sensual activities
    such as petting, caressing,
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    making out, touching,
    hugging, kissing... No...
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    What porn cameras are into
    is the penetration.
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    So normally the composition
    will be a man and a woman,
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    hopefully just one, okay...
    so, one man and one woman...
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    His penis is inside her.
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    It doesn't matter where inside.
    Somewhere inside.
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    His penis is somewhere inside her,
    okay?
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    And in order not to block the camera
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    for doing this extreme close up
    on the penetration,
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    he's standing with his hands
    behind his back most of the time.
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    And the woman is in this...
    uncomfortable position
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    and she needs to handle
    the penis inside her
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    without damaging the hair
    or make up or look down on her
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    because that's money invested
    and time invested in her.
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    Without disturbing his aggressive movement
    and mainly without blocking the cameras.
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    So the result is that we got
    two people having sex
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    different shapes and acrobatics
    or something... but they're having sex
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    when the only body parts
    that actually touch each other
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    are the penis
    and the part being penetrated.
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    No hands involved.
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    I talked, I don't know, 250-300 times
    a year, soldiers, students, pupils...
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    No one has ever come up to me and say
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    "Ran, you know that part
    with sex with no hands thing
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    that was my authentic desire,
    like when I was 11 or 12
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    I never wanted to kiss
    or touch anybody.
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    I was not curious about that.
    It was all the penetration to begin with."
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    No one has ever said that...
    -- before porn.
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    After porn...
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    In my private fantasies
    before watching porn,
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    there was always a very strong narrative
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    and the narrative was
    of sensuality and mutuality.
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    Which means that I always imagined
    what I would say to her?
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    What would she possibly answer?
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    What options do I have to respond?
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    In real life it never worked
    like I planned,
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    but it was important in my mind
    in term of arousal
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    the build up, the location,
    the setting, where will it be?
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    What are the circumstances of me and her
    being all alone all of a sudden.
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    How will this bodily inflaming between us
    will emerge step by step?
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    It was super important
    ...before porn.
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    After making a habit out of porn...
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    it conquers your mind
    and it invades your brain.
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    And I lost my ability to imagine.
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    Which mean I found myself...
    and I won't be too explicit,
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    but trying to masturbate,
    just closing my eyes
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    trying to fantasize desperately
    about something human
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    and not making it
    because my head was bombarded
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    with all of those images of women
    being violated and subordinated
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    and forced into pretending they
    enjoyed diabolic sperm rituals.
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    So, this is pretty much the result.
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    We are all vulnerable to pornography.
    It's not just young people...
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    We should be very careful.
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    Not only what we put into our bodies
    in term of food and nutrition...
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    But with the nutrition of our mind.
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    Everything we watch invades us.
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    I'll give you a short example
    from non-sexual areas.
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    I came the other night,
    I came back home
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    and my beloved one was watching
    some cultural junk.
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    She was watching a karaoke show audition,
    the one with chairs spinning.
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    We don't have a TV set back home,
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    but only because it allows us
    to falsely present ourselves
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    as deep and profound people.
    (laughter)
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    I've never heard of that.
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    Mastectomy who? Angelina?
    No, we don't have a TV.
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    We watch every cultural
    junk possible, okay?
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    Neither me, nor her,
    contemplate about existence.
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    We download stuff.
    And we download all cultural junk.
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    I am watching this 20 minutes
    karaoke show.
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    And it was so boring and tedious.
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    Two minutes talking,
    four minutes blabbering.
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    I lost patience after 20 minutes
    and I went off to take a shower
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    and the most interesting
    part was in the shower.
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    Because what I found out there
    was myself in most pathetic state ever...
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    I'm going to share it with you.
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    I want to feel that you
    accept and love me,
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    so I will share my most pathetic moment
    and you have to accept it now.
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    I don't know until I got over myself
    if it took me five, seven, ten minutes
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    to realize that I am standing
    under the water in the shower
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    pondering severely what would've been
    my song for the auditions?
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    Deep and profound, mind you!
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    I won't be doing
    this Rihanna or Lady Gaga's.
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    I will be doing Mercedes Sosa's
    Como Un Pájaro Libre.
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    I'll be doing a cover for
    Bob Dylan's Blind Willie McTell.
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    Ain't that deep and profound?
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    I had to realize that I'm an idiot
    because I have no talent for music.
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    More than that, I never wanted to be
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    neither a musician
    nor a singer or songwriter.
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    This was never a part of my
    inner world of wishes, okay?
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    But I'm a human being.
    What can I do?
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    I was watching that for 20 minutes
    It entered my brain for a while.
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    So if we take this example
    we can try to estimate
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    the impact of 20 minutes
    of watching no matter what,
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    how it invades our mind
    and conquers our wantings and desires.
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    Let's just try to imagine or
    I can share it with you orally
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    what is the impact
    of 20 minutes of watching porn
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    once or twice a week,
    nothing unmoderated.
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    It's overtaking.
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    And porn is in our household,
    whether we want it or not
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    and I believe that it does not agree
    with our well being.
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    Because we have internet
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    in the western world all over the place
    almost in every cellular phone now
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    we've got 90% of 12 year-olds
    watching porn on a regular basis.
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    And it has both an addictive effect
    and a paralyzing effect.
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    It's addictive, because it develops
    somewhat of a dependency on porn.
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    And paralyzing because,
    mainly for young boys and men,
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    porn is teaching us that
    as a man you are solely valued in sex
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    by having a large penis
    and an eternal erection.
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    According to porn,
    being a valuable sexual partner
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    does not relate with being
    sensual, passionate, attentive,
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    generous, well-coordinated.
    None of the above.
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    It is all about large penis
    and eternal sunshine,
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    which we don't possess.
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    So boys become paralyzed.
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    And if they don't become
    paralyzed by watching porn
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    very often they turn into imitators
    of what they saw,
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    which then means
    they become aggressors.
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    Aggressors,
    even when emotion is involved.
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    There is so much sexual abuse
    going on nowadays
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    within the confines of what
    we perceive from the outside
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    as beautiful teenage love stories,
    or healthy adult relationships.
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    Because we don't really
    talk about sex
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    we just see it all over,
    we don't really talk about it.
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    So, what goes on in the confines
    of a certain room
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    but these are all sexual mutations
    that happen.
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    If we talk about women,
    it's not only that,
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    but young girls even get the message
    not only from hardcore porn
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    but from a porn influenced
    main stream culture.
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    Have you seen any Miley Cirus,
    Lady Gaga video clips or commercials?
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    That's porn with clothes on.
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    So girls get this notion that
    if you want to be worthy of love
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    first and foremost you have
    to be worthy of sexual desire.
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    And now, the definition of sexual desire
    almost equals: be like a porn star.
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    So I work in dozens and dozens
    of high schools and junior highs.
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    In every single one
    of these schools I find girls
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    that at a certain point agreed
    to be documentedin an intimate situation
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    because they wanted to please some guy
    that they had feelings for.
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    And this guy misappropriated their trust.
    Always the same story.
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    So he sells it on WhatsApp application
    or on the web, on the internet.
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    And normally nobody even
    addresses him in terms of moral.
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    But it is always girls that suffer
    from shaming and mortification.
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    They can change the school...
    they drop out normally.
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    They can move to another city
    and still be haunted on social networks.
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    They develop clinical depressions,
    severe eating disorders,
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    as if we don't have enough reasons in
    our culture to develop eating disorders.
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    They become so isolated socially.
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    So some of them - like Amanda Todd,
    rest in peace... -
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    some of them actually commit suicide.
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    Because they find no more value
    in life or in themselves.
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    So, porn is not only in our house.
    It is a capital case.
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    It is not a minor phenomenon
    in our society.
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    It is a question
    of life and death sometimes.
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    It is mainly a question of life and death
    for the people who participate in porn,
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    because porn is not an embodiment
    of freedom of speech,
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    freedom of occupation, blah-blah... No.
    It's an embodiment of sex-exploitation,
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    working side-by-side with human traffic
    raping, pimping, solicitation.
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    For every one porn star
    with a book contract
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    or a production company,
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    we've got hundreds of
    thousands of women and girls
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    who do not survive out there.
    Literally, they just don't make it.
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    The sex industry just chews them up
    and spits them back
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    into brothels, into hooking in the street,
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    escorting, massage parlors
    with happy or unhappy ending
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    depends who you ask.
    And I am not joking.
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    This is the whole
    spectrum of prostitution.
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    So many of them do not even
    make it to the age of 50.
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    I am talking about countries
    that the life expectancy
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    is at 75, 76 years now.
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    They don't make it to the age of 50.
    4 reasons mainly.
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    Drugs, STD - Sexually
    Transmitted Diseases
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    being murdered by a john,
    a pimp, a boyfriend
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    and the fourth reason
    is suicide once again.
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    Because if you are a prostitute,
    on camera or off camera,
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    you are in the situation that
    we can refer to as social death.
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    We have all sat on the dinner table
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    with people who probably
    consumed prostitution
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    that have been to a brothel
    once, twice at least.
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    We never sit down
    to the table with a prostitute.
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    Not with a declared one.
    So that's social death.
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    It is not glamorous. Not at all.
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    And when I sit in the privacy of my room
    and watch porn, even without paying...
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    No need to pay, it's free.
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    I hope you know that,
    if you're still consuming...
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    Whatever I am watching
    is creating a demand.
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    And wherever there is a demand,
    there will be a supply.
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    There is a correlation.
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    If I watch pornography of black,
    older women,
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    somebody is going to go out
    and pimp black older women.
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    Asian minors? Somebody is
    already trafficking Asian minors
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    in order to film them.
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    Israeli women, Palestinian women
    WASP, all American college girls.
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    It's a strong in the last few years
    it's a very upcoming category.
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    The scum of the Earth
    are already out there
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    trying to solicit and prostitute
    these women on camera.
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    So, I stopped watching porn
    for my personal well-being.
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    My intimate communication,
    my private erotic life.
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    Reclaiming control
    and responsibility over my mind.
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    But by doing that,
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    I actually stopped contributing
    to this horrible sex industry.
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    That's a good thing to do,
    I believe.
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    And I would really like
    to propose that notion
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    of physically and emotionally-safe sex,
    emotionally-safe sex.
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    It does not mean going back to be
    conservative or unliberated sexually.
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    I am all for sexual freedom.
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    It just means that we need to put
    genderial hierarchy aside,
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    subordinance aside.
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    And bring back in...
    let's just say, "laughter"
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    as a critical method for intimacy.
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    Two souls, two humans,
    two souls alone in private,
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    can they please have a laugh together?
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    Whether they know each other
    for a decade or for an hour...
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    If two souls alone in a room
    do not manage to have a laugh together,
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    what good could possibly grow there?
    Sexual and non-sexual.
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    That's emotionally safe sex.
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    I've got so many things
    I want to share with you
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    but I feel like my time
    is almost up, so...
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    I just really want to ask for us
    to speak about these issues more
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    because I strongly feel that our history
    of silence never did us any good,
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    because silence
    only perpetuates more silence,
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    when talking normally
    gives birth to more talking,
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    more sharing, more identification,
    more awareness, more change.
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    A small change,
    we have a small humble life.
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    But a real change, a true one,
    emotionally safer.
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    Thank you for listening.
Title:
Why I stopped watching porn: Ran Gavrieli at TEDxJaffa
Description:

Ran Gavrieli lives in Tel Aviv and studies gender at Tel Aviv University. He works with youth and adults all over the country in sex and gender studies and in building positive self image in a world inundated by sexual imagery with negative connotations. Ran writes and lectures about emotional and physical safe sex; porn and porn-influenced cultural damages; gender and power relations; and sex and intimacy.

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Video Language:
English
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Duration:
15:58
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    Jeong

  • Is it possible to assign it to me so that I can work on it?

  • Hi, I thought that I sent back to Krystian. If he has it, he might be able to help you. I think you worked hard as he was talking really fast. :-)

    Thank you!

  • I'd like to add Portuguese Brazilian subtitles to this talk, but it is not available for me. I already have the .srt file complete and ready to upload. Can someone please help me with it?

  • I just made a new revision. Now the reading speed is good. I also reviewed the text and made some improvements to make it more readable.

    At what stage can additional languages be added? I have a Hebrew SRT file ready to upload.

  • Thank you for syncing all the minor timing inconstancies. Now I learned that too, so I can do it now from now on as well. Thank you again.
    Beautifully done!

  • You're welcome!
    Is it possible to start working yet on additional languages, or does English need to be approved first?

  • You're welcome!
    Is it possible to start working yet on additional languages, or does English need to be approved first?

  • I think English has to be approved first...

  • Thanks for the additional edits!

  • Finally approved. It was a hilarious, yet serious talk! Thank you all!

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